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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On August 23 2016 23:29 disformation wrote: shit. i found a huge error in my plan. forget that. yeh it didn't look right. nice we have TW here, we have Kitaman....FF you here? disformation if you have a push left, we have our four to put into place the first part of the plan, and then someone has to pull disformation (not himself ofc). | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On August 23 2016 08:10 Palmar wrote: 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__Item__][__________] 4.[__________][__________] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[___________][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] If there is a free spot horizontally to the right, will a player take that position before moving vertically up? For instance, now that we pushed disfo twice, is it possible that he is sitting in 4b, like below: 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__Item__][__________] 4.[__________][_Disformation_] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][_]_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[___________][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] We would need to expand an extra push to get him to the item slot if it works this way. | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On August 23 2016 23:30 kitaman27 wrote: If there is a free spot horizontally to the right, will a player take that position before moving vertically up? For instance, now that we pushed disfo twice, is it possible that he is sitting in 4b, like below: 1.[__________][___________] 2.[___________][__________] 3.[__Item__][__________] 4.[__________][_Disformation_] 5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][_]_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[___________][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________] 12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] We would need to expand an extra push to get him to the item slot if it works this way. uh, no? | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On August 23 2016 23:31 Tumblewood wrote: so now we use 9 pushes and 5 pulls, including the pushes we used on disfo. new plan starts "2 pull on disfo" and we don't move disfo otherwise 9 pushes is quite a lot though | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
okay nevermind. So the only way to get to 4b is if 4a is occupied and you get pushed from 5+, which didn't happen in this case, right? | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On August 23 2016 23:35 kitaman27 wrote: okay nevermind. So the only way to get to 4b is if 4a is occupied and you get pushed from 5+, which didn't happen in this case, right? no? | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
eh, yes? | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On August 23 2016 07:35 Palmar wrote: Game Mechanics: 1. Unlike normal voting this day works on a Push and Pull system. If you type ## push: player then that player will be bumped up one spot (+1) in the queue. If you type ## pull: player then they will be bumped down (-1) in the queue. Any lethal spots in the queue will be highlighted in red. At the end of the Day any players in a red numbered queue will be incinerated. Realize that multiple mass lynches are possible. Be careful. 2. Please "vote" in the following format: ##Push Qatol or ## Pull Qatol. "Votes" from here on in refered to as Push or Pulls aka PoPs not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update PoP counts whenever I get the chance 3. There is enough room for 2 humans to occupy the same spot on the conveyor belt. However if a 3rd human is PoPed into their spot that human is going to be PoPed into the next available spot in most cases. Clearly there are exceptions to this rule. 4. Humans can be PoPed to the edge of the conveyor belt (aka the highest or lowest slot on the queue). If they are pushed past that they will escape the hellish nightmare. However for every player that escapes, the flames will burn brighter, making more spots "red" aka "dead". 5. You may not PoP yourself in most instances. 6. Humans have one Push and one Pull option per day. Use them wisely because once they are used you can not get them back on that day. 7. If you get to the Item, you will receive the item! From #1 with Artanis and Rels both pushing disformation, unless I'm reading this wrong, disformation should already be in row 3. | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On August 23 2016 23:44 Rels wrote: I might be stupid but I just now realized that we need to push who we want to burn now, THEN pull disfo in order to use less moves That's what I was trying to say. I am pretty sure disformation is in row 3 and in possession of the item and not standing next to the item. How did this work in Death Factory 1 and 2? | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On August 23 2016 23:48 Rels wrote: I dunno but I'm like 99% sure it works like expected, IE if you're pushed you go to the next bloc and not sideways Yeah but if you are in position b of bloc 2 and you get pushed do you got to position a or b of bloc 1 (assuming both are free) | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
Consider this scenario where tumble's initial plan left us off. + Show Spoiler [we are here] + 1.[__________][___________] 2.[_GlowingBear_][__________] 3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_] 4.[__________prplhz__][__Kurumi__] 5.[__________][_Lunaticman_] 6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation w/item_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[__][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][__________] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][__________] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__________] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] 1 pull on luna (maybe) 1 pull on damdred 1 pull on disfo + Show Spoiler [final position] + 1.[__________][___________] 2.[_GlowingBear_][__________] 3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_] 4.[__prplhz__][__Kurumi__] 5.[__________][__________] 6.[__________][__________] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Lunaticman_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_Damdred_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Disformation w/item_] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__________] 14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] Assuming 2/5 of those players listed are mafia, they can both execute a pull on myself or tumble and pull one of us off the queue, granting them a danger zone in level 6. Then they can use a single push to kill any townie of their choosing from row 7 to 11 (since they would automatically be pushed to 6), so we could lose HTS and disfo for free. If we assume that mafia will send these actions during the final seconds of the cycle, we won't have time to react, so we gotta make sure that we plan ahead of time so this can't happen...or at least so we can limit our losses if it does. Alternatively, they could do something like a double push on glowingbear, a double pull on myself, which would turn rows 6 and 7 into fire, while saving glowingbear from death in the process. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On August 23 2016 23:49 disformation wrote: Yeah but if you are in position b of bloc 2 and you get pushed do you got to position a or b of bloc 1 (assuming both are free) I would assume (a) if it's free, (b) if (a) is not free, and the next bloc if both are occupied | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
On August 23 2016 23:50 Rels wrote: I would assume (a) if it's free, (b) if (a) is not free, and the next bloc if both are occupied I assume the same, but i do not 100% know. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
1.[__________][___________] 2.[_GlowingBear_][__________] 3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_] 4.[__prplhz__][__Kurumi__] 5.[__________][__________] 6.[_Disformation w/item_][_Half the Sky_] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Lunaticman_][_Shapelog_] 9.[[__________][_Damdred_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][[__________] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__________] 14.[[__________][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] OR 1.[__________][___________] 2.[__________][__________] 3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_] 4.[__prplhz__][__Kurumi__] 5.[__________][__________] 6.[__________][__________] 7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_] 8.[_Lunaticman_][_Shapelog_] 9.[_Half the Sky_][_Damdred_] 10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___] 11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][[_Disformation w/item_] 12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_] 13.[__________][__________] 14.[[__________][_Tumblewood_] 15.[__________][__________] We may need to come up with a plan to avoids putting anyone in slot two or 14 by the end of the cycle. It is still susceptible to a 3 mafia end of day plan, but I don't think we can get around that. | ||
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