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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 23 2016 12:16 GMT
#3341
Tumblewood push pull
Artanis[Xp] push pull
Rels push pull
Lunaticman push pull
kitaman27 push pull
Stutters695 push pull
Damdred push pull
Shapelog push pull
Fecalfeast push pull
Disformation push pull
GlowingBear push pull
iamperfection push pull
sicklucker push pull
Meapak_Ziphh push pull
Chezinu push pull
prplhz push pull
Kurumi push pull
Half the Sky push pull
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 23 2016 12:21 GMT
#3342
Currently left

13 pushes left/17 pulls (all counted)
10 pushes left/13 pulls (discounting those apparently headed to the furnace)

Tumblewood push pull
Artanis[Xp] push pull
Rels push pull
Lunaticman push pull
kitaman27 push pull
Stutters695 push pull
Damdred push pull
Shapelog push pull
Fecalfeast push pull
Disformation push pull
GlowingBear push pull
iamperfection push pull
sicklucker push pull
Meapak_Ziphh push pull
Chezinu push pull
prplhz push pull
Kurumi push pull
Half the Sky push pull
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Lunaticman
Profile Joined November 2007
Sweden1097 Posts
August 23 2016 12:26 GMT
#3343
Well like 5 of those at least are anti town.
Failure is not an option
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 23 2016 12:28 GMT
#3344
yep which was why i initially liked tw's plan, cause that needed only like 8 pushes and 4 pulls or something
we might need to take a look if we can transition back to that plan now.
maybe we should try to off one person less, in order to be more safe
hope the item does something usefull
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 23 2016 12:28 GMT
#3345
Kitaman/MZ can correct me if I'm wrong here, but from reading Death Factory 2 it looks like town conceded in the round that they did partially because they wouldn't have enough people around at deadline to make the moves they needed. So we should also have deadline/end of day cover for backup in case scum and/or anti-town third party pull any BS.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 23 2016 12:33 GMT
#3346
Original

On August 23 2016 09:19 Tumblewood wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [current position] +
1.[__________][___________]
2.[___________][__________]
3.[__Item__][__________]
4.[__________][__________]
5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_]

6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation_]
7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_]
8.[___________][_Shapelog_]
9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_]
10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___]
11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________]
12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_]
13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__]
14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_]
15.[__________][__________]

1 push on kurumi
1 push on chez
1 push on prp + Show Spoiler [we are here] +
1.[__________][___________]
2.[___________][__________]
3.[__Item__][__________]
4.[__prplhz__][__________]
5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_]

6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation_]
7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_]
8.[_Chezinu_][_Shapelog_]
9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_]
10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___]
11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][__Kurumi__]
12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_]
13.[__________][__________]
14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_]
15.[__________][__________]

1 push on kurumi
1 push on disfo (assume we don't use the item / it doesn't change everything drastically)
1 pull on disfo + Show Spoiler [we are here] +
1.[__________][___________]
2.[___________][__________]
3.[__________][__________]
4.[__prplhz__][__Kurumi__]
5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_]

6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation w/item_]
7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_]
8.[_Chezinu_][_Shapelog_]
9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_]
10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___]
11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][__________]
12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_]
13.[__________][__________]
14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_]
15.[__________][__________]

1 push on iamp
1 push on chez
1 push on GB
+ Show Spoiler [we are here] +
1.[__________][___________]
2.[_GlowingBear_][__________]
3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_]
4.[__________prplhz__][__Kurumi__]
5.[__________][_Lunaticman_]

6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation w/item_]
7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_]
8.[__][_Shapelog_]
9.[_Half the Sky_][__________]
10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___]
11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][__________]
12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_]
13.[__________][__________]
14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_]
15.[__________][__________]

1 pull on luna (maybe)
1 pull on damdred
1 pull on disfo + Show Spoiler [final position] +
1.[__________][___________]
2.[_GlowingBear_][__________]
3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_]
4.[__prplhz__][__Kurumi__]
5.[__________][__________]

6.[__________][__________]
7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_]
8.[_Lunaticman_][_Shapelog_]
9.[_Half the Sky_][_Damdred_]
10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___]
11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Disformation w/item_]
12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_]
13.[__________][__________]
14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_]
15.[__________][__________]

we have 1 PoP of buffer room for every change. woohoo! takes 8 pushes and 4 pulls

looks good. if kita agrees were doing thst.
just tell mexwhat/when to use my stuff[/QUOTE]

It looks like we need three pushes on Kurumi, Chez and prplhz in that order. Then Kurumi needs to be pushed again. So 4 pushes successively before we pull disformation to safety. We need way more people here though, that's the problem right now.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 23 2016 12:33 GMT
#3347
EBWOP

Original

On August 23 2016 09:19 Tumblewood wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [current position] +
1.[__________][___________]
2.[___________][__________]
3.[__Item__][__________]
4.[__________][__________]
5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_]

6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation_]
7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_]
8.[___________][_Shapelog_]
9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_]
10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___]
11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][___________]
12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_]
13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__]
14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_]
15.[__________][__________]

1 push on kurumi
1 push on chez
1 push on prp + Show Spoiler [we are here] +
1.[__________][___________]
2.[___________][__________]
3.[__Item__][__________]
4.[__prplhz__][__________]
5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_]

6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation_]
7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_]
8.[_Chezinu_][_Shapelog_]
9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_]
10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___]
11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][__Kurumi__]
12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_]
13.[__________][__________]
14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_]
15.[__________][__________]

1 push on kurumi
1 push on disfo (assume we don't use the item / it doesn't change everything drastically)
1 pull on disfo + Show Spoiler [we are here] +
1.[__________][___________]
2.[___________][__________]
3.[__________][__________]
4.[__prplhz__][__Kurumi__]
5.[_GlowingBear_][_Lunaticman_]

6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation w/item_]
7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_]
8.[_Chezinu_][_Shapelog_]
9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_]
10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___]
11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][__________]
12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_]
13.[__________][__________]
14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_]
15.[__________][__________]

1 push on iamp
1 push on chez
1 push on GB
+ Show Spoiler [we are here] +
1.[__________][___________]
2.[_GlowingBear_][__________]
3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_]
4.[__________prplhz__][__Kurumi__]
5.[__________][_Lunaticman_]

6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation w/item_]
7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_]
8.[__][_Shapelog_]
9.[_Half the Sky_][__________]
10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___]
11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][__________]
12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_]
13.[__________][__________]
14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_]
15.[__________][__________]

1 pull on luna (maybe)
1 pull on damdred
1 pull on disfo + Show Spoiler [final position] +
1.[__________][___________]
2.[_GlowingBear_][__________]
3.[_iamperfection_][_Chezinu_]
4.[__prplhz__][__Kurumi__]
5.[__________][__________]

6.[__________][__________]
7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_]
8.[_Lunaticman_][_Shapelog_]
9.[_Half the Sky_][_Damdred_]
10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___]
11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_Disformation w/item_]
12.[__________][_Meapak_Ziphh_]
13.[__________][__________]
14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_]
15.[__________][__________]

we have 1 PoP of buffer room for every change. woohoo! takes 8 pushes and 4 pulls


It looks like we need three pushes on Kurumi, Chez and prplhz in that order. Then Kurumi needs to be pushed again. So 4 pushes successively before we pull disformation to safety. We need way more people here though, that's the problem right now.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 23 2016 12:34 GMT
#3348
yep. it is not that bad to have to wait a bit though, since we dont know what the item is.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2016 12:36 GMT
#3349
On August 23 2016 21:02 Lunaticman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2016 18:28 Rels wrote:
K since everyone agrees that disfo should at least get the item, I will push him towards it very soon unless someone is against it. Then when he reaches the item town can chose to push him off the edge or pull him back.



Show nested quote +
On August 23 2016 18:46 Rels wrote:
You need to be in spot 3 to get the item, if you're pushed 2 times you'll be in spot 3.


Convenient that you mentioned this after everyone pushed dis forward, obvious scum tell trying to get town cred for knowing the mechanics.

I don't even understand why you are saying
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 23 2016 13:07 GMT
#3350
Also accounting for some people not showing up as Kitaman said before I think priority one should be:

(1) Get GB/Chezinu/prplhz in the red/push them up as stated in the main plan
(2) Get disformation out

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 23 2016 13:08 GMT
#3351
I have to attend to work, but be back.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 23 2016 13:12 GMT
#3352
On August 23 2016 22:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Also accounting for some people not showing up as Kitaman said before I think priority one should be:

(1) Get GB/Chezinu/prplhz in the red/push them up as stated in the main plan
(2) Get disformation out


yup. would love to get like 6kp out of this, but depending on how powerful the item is and/or who shows up when, we might need to play it a bit safer.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 23 2016 13:19 GMT
#3353
On August 23 2016 22:12 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2016 22:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Also accounting for some people not showing up as Kitaman said before I think priority one should be:

(1) Get GB/Chezinu/prplhz in the red/push them up as stated in the main plan
(2) Get disformation out


yup. would love to get like 6kp out of this, but depending on how powerful the item is and/or who shows up when, we might need to play it a bit safer.


I seem to remember a themed game where town essentially could choose as many lynches as they want, but in return mafia received that many kp. I wonder if we might be dealing with something similar here. Anyone remember if this was a Palmar game? I can't find it so far.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
August 23 2016 13:22 GMT
#3354
You still didn't receive the item ?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 23 2016 13:24 GMT
#3355
nope. seems like the hosts are currently not available.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
August 23 2016 13:29 GMT
#3356
On August 23 2016 22:12 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2016 22:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Also accounting for some people not showing up as Kitaman said before I think priority one should be:

(1) Get GB/Chezinu/prplhz in the red/push them up as stated in the main plan
(2) Get disformation out


yup. would love to get like 6kp out of this, but depending on how powerful the item is and/or who shows up when, we might need to play it a bit safer.


One thing I read in Death Factory 2 that then-host Ace was scolding the town (that conceded lol) was that town were trying to burn too many scum at once. In that game syllogism was the obvious mafia but town were divided on trying to take syllo, and zendor and someone else out all at once and got nothing achieved. (There was the additional issue of town failing to pull scum off when they had the opportunity but that's a moot point here.)

TLDR: Focus on the consensus targets/saves first, and keep it simple. I wouldn't even try and think ahead on the what if's, but that's the lesson I took away from reading the DF games.

Okay, now I'm out.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 23 2016 13:30 GMT
#3357
On August 23 2016 22:29 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2016 22:12 disformation wrote:
On August 23 2016 22:07 Half the Sky wrote:
Also accounting for some people not showing up as Kitaman said before I think priority one should be:

(1) Get GB/Chezinu/prplhz in the red/push them up as stated in the main plan
(2) Get disformation out


yup. would love to get like 6kp out of this, but depending on how powerful the item is and/or who shows up when, we might need to play it a bit safer.


One thing I read in Death Factory 2 that then-host Ace was scolding the town (that conceded lol) was that town were trying to burn too many scum at once. In that game syllogism was the obvious mafia but town were divided on trying to take syllo, and zendor and someone else out all at once and got nothing achieved. (There was the additional issue of town failing to pull scum off when they had the opportunity but that's a moot point here.)

TLDR: Focus on the consensus targets/saves first, and keep it simple. I wouldn't even try and think ahead on the what if's, but that's the lesson I took away from reading the DF games.

Okay, now I'm out.

Fair point.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 23 2016 13:50 GMT
#3358
I'm here had some rl things to take care of can someone explain what this is going on
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 23 2016 13:55 GMT
#3359
On August 23 2016 22:50 Damdred wrote:
I'm here had some rl things to take care of can someone explain what this is going on

Instead of Mafia we are playing a game where we have to pull and push ppl over a factory conveyor belt. If you stand on a red spot on the end of day you die.
There is also an item on in the red spots, which is why we pushed me onto it to collect it. I will hopefully get pulled back to safety.

You want to read this:
On August 23 2016 07:35 Palmar wrote:
The Machine Cabal Reports

[image loading]







AI Uprising

[image loading]

Humanity is disposable. The organic matter better used for fuel than for whatever it is humans enjoy to do. As such, we will be burning humanity in a very efficient way on a conveyor belt.

To the Furnace


You have all been placed on a conveyor belt slowly being moved towards a terrifying furnace. There is enough space on the belt for two humans side by side.


1.[__________][___________]
2.[___________][__________]
3.[__Item__][__________]
4.[__________][__________]
5.[__________][__________]

6.[_Damdred_][_Disformation_]
7.[_Stutters_][_fecalfeast_]
8.[_Lunaticman_][_Shapelog_]
9.[_Half the Sky_][_iamperfection_]
10.[_sicklucker_][___Rels___]
11.[_Artanis[Xp]_][_GlowingBear_]
12.[__prplhz__][_Meapak_Ziphh_]
13.[_Chezinu_][__Kurumi__]
14.[_Kitaman27_][_Tumblewood_]
15.[__________][__________]

Game Mechanics:


1. Unlike normal voting this day works on a Push and Pull system. If you type ## push: player then that player will be bumped up one spot (+1) in the queue. If you type ## pull: player then they will be bumped down (-1) in the queue. Any lethal spots in the queue will be highlighted in red. At the end of the Day any players in a red numbered queue will be incinerated. Realize that multiple mass lynches are possible. Be careful.

2. Please "vote" in the following format: ##Push Qatol or ## Pull Qatol. "Votes" from here on in refered to as Push or Pulls aka PoPs not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update PoP counts whenever I get the chance

3. There is enough room for 2 humans to occupy the same spot on the conveyor belt. However if a 3rd human is PoPed into their spot that human is going to be PoPed into the next available spot in most cases. Clearly there are exceptions to this rule.

4. Humans can be PoPed to the edge of the conveyor belt (aka the highest or lowest slot on the queue). If they are pushed past that they will escape the hellish nightmare. However for every player that escapes, the flames will burn brighter, making more spots "red" aka "dead".

5. You may not PoP yourself in most instances.

6. Humans have one Push and one Pull option per day. Use them wisely because once they are used you can not get them back on that day.

7. If you get to the Item, you will receive the item!



Ah also: koshi was abducted so he is not in this mini game and you cant use abilities/items/cash whatever.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
August 23 2016 13:55 GMT
#3360
basically waiting for one of the hosts to show up and update the map + tell me what the item does.
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