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On June 27 2016 05:28 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 05:19 Superbia wrote:
Jealous that felt forced. Like you didn't want to give your reads because you believe in them or you want to pursue them. But it feels like you're giving them to seem town. I'm trying to do my due diligence. This is just as much for myself to organize my thoughts as I read every filter of the 40+ hours I missed so I can get get ready to analyze consequent actions with some foundation, as it is to show others that I am back from being inactive and am ready to contribute my reads to the town. I can see how this can be construed as "trying to seem town," but given how there was a push to policy lynch me I think it is more of "trying to be active and a part of the game and stimulate discussion."
Yea between this and kinda liking his reads I'm starting to lean town on Jealous.
Will leave him on higher end of null for now though kus I'd kinda like to see more.
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On June 27 2016 05:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:He won't do it and we can lynch TT later anyway. TT actually becomes more readable later on and dunno if MD does so I don't mind the shot.
Humm, this is the first reasonable thing you've said about me.
Maybe I've been wrong about you Art.
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On June 27 2016 06:10 Jean Valjean wrote:
Superbia is next lynch. Let's keep going.
Yea, I don't think so.
We should keep lynching scum.
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On June 27 2016 06:19 Damdred wrote:
A moosey+Tt team makes sense I was playing with the idea.
A moose+super doesn't tbh especially with a general rule of ignoring moosey d1. Early call out was good
I thought it was Jealous and Me and you wanted to ignore or sorta TR Moosy.
I think I'm lynching you no matter what tomorrow Damdred. You have said jack shit to push a scum read, didn't help town consolidate onto a good mayor and went from, "I dont want to be mayor", to "I want to be Mayor", to "I'm good a town reads I should be pardoner".
You generally seemed content to push afk people and myself while pushing discussion away from Moosy multiple times.
Mostly it's just that nothing you've said feels like you are really thinking about things beyond a surface level.
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On June 27 2016 08:04 Damdred wrote:
If you would finish the thread pretty sure you would,know a lot more instead of ask I,g them as you go. Though does make your filter look,better out of co,text which might be what you are going for
Or I'll just post as I see and think of things like I always do. I doubt it actually makes my filter look better.
I do tend to prefer responding to stuff via quotes rather than in-the-moment discussion but it's not like I shy away from discussion if you approach me.
On June 27 2016 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Also it's pre try clear from ny filter I came back still push I,g you as scum so yeaaa
Well that's what I mean, what happened to make you think I was town for the span of one post then go right back to scum reading me?
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Ok, only real changes to my list post now that I'm fully caught up is that I'd move Art and Jealous up one group each.
I kinda want to reread GB even though I think he's prob telling the truth about being named VT, and thought he was town before that anyway. Just need to cross some t's.
Emp is weird to me kus he feels kinda different than last game, but doesn't seem very towny to me either.
I think I feel pretty good about all my townreads though.
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Oh and about Chez, I have no fucking clue how to read Chez.
I agree with whoever said cop should check him.
Though I do kinda recall an interaction he had with QT that I liked...
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On June 27 2016 10:52 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 10:18 Tictock wrote:On June 27 2016 06:19 Damdred wrote:
A moosey+Tt team makes sense I was playing with the idea.
A moose+super doesn't tbh especially with a general rule of ignoring moosey d1. Early call out was good I thought it was Jealous and Me and you wanted to ignore or sorta TR Moosy. I think I'm lynching you no matter what tomorrow Damdred. You have said jack shit to push a scum read, didn't help town consolidate onto a good mayor and went from, "I dont want to be mayor", to "I want to be Mayor", to "I'm good a town reads I should be pardoner". You generally seemed content to push afk people and myself while pushing discussion away from Moosy multiple times. Mostly it's just that nothing you've said feels like you are really thinking about things beyond a surface level. How did I not consolidate on a good mayor? I pushed from my Lynch list, which most of the game agreed on mostly tbh. Idk how I pushed away from moose when you can clearly see in any game I'm with moose in that it is my policy to ignore him d1 as he's much easier to read afterwards. Then come at me and I'll bury you. Nothing you've said makes me scum and your read is bad.
It's great that you've called me scum all game but talk to me like you think I'm town.
You pushed against GB or Super being mayor, but ended up voting GB (can't really find why in your filter) and then voted Jean who I don't think you ever gave a read on. You started off with "I don't want to be mayor" then made a couple "Why aren't people considering me for mayor/pardoner" posts. Never pushed any of your townreads to be mayor. So you were pushing against GB being mayor despite reading him as town, but were only offering yourself as an alternative. Just weren't involved in that discussion at all.
And stuff like this was kinda pushing things away from Moosy.
On June 26 2016 22:25 Damdred wrote:
Nobody else over moosey super?
On June 27 2016 05:57 Damdred wrote:
I also think moosey flips town though meh. Just a gut feel nothing to base it on
I also think it's weird how you keep trying to build teams around me without really pushing me too much directly. Or more like you keep calling me scum but aren't doing much to show why I'm scum.
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On June 27 2016 11:05 Damdred wrote:
Actually I'm not going to get hostile, while I agree phone posting is probably causing my thoughts to get more jumbled. I think my progressions on most of my reads and reasonings posted in thread are decent.
My scum reads presented have had factual reasons behind them and have shown progression ie jealous for example went, light scum-hard scum read-conversation-light scum-new thought-town.
While you are a bit difficult to understand tt with your bouts of afk and while you paint me scummy for diverting attention from moose you yourself pushed light scum on him and never pushed it at all.
So you are coming across pretty hypocritical, also you say I'm only pushing afk or you. I don't know why that's a big surprise since I am town reading most of the game, and the main reason I consolidated like I did was because ec was a town read and didn't want him to die and had no read on moose.
I regret that I had to break my policy but Jean did the right thing.
Eh I can see why you and Art are saying I lightly pushed Moosy kus I wasn't around EoD to share my thoughts before the flip.
Regardless of if you believe it or not Moosy was probably my first scum read because of his opening though he made a bout of posting once he stopped trolling that made me less sure and I started focusing more on my reads on you and Art.
I guess it might look hypocritical outside of my PoV, but I think there is a distinct difference in how the two of us pushed/talked about Moosy. I'll let people evaluate for themselves which is more likely to come from scum.
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On June 27 2016 19:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think what's more important is that we start smurfhunting now.
Smurf is clearly a native english speaker. Only 48 hits on 'like', half of which being quotes eliminates Geript. I'd like to say that the egotisticalness displayed also eliminates Kita and Slam, and timezones kinda suggest a brit anyway. I'm kinda tempted to say holyflare but I don't think he'd have the energy to play atm. Marv and VE definitely wouldn't, at least not this way. Also too jolly to be DP.
I guess HF is still the most likely?
This is silly and pretty pointless and I can't imagine will ever have any value.
Unless you are trying to build a case that Jean is the smurf of somebody who is this tryhard and also lynched scum D1 when he didn't have too...
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But w/e I've pondered it and I really don't think Art makes sense as scum anymore. He basically set aside his read on me and voted Jean to get Moosy lynched which scum almost never do.
So I think Jean, Super, and Art more or less as confirmed town.
Tumble also said something that reminded me I should recheck EoD votes.
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Ugh I didn't realize Moosy was voting Jean as well, and I'm betting it was because Jean decided he would lynch Moosy...
I'd like to look at how the votes went down kus I still find Damdred's switch right at the end with no explanation pretty interesting....
But this is looking like it's gunna be a bit of work and I don't feel like doing it right now.
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On June 27 2016 20:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 20:44 Tictock wrote:
But w/e I've pondered it and I really don't think Art makes sense as scum anymore. He basically set aside his read on me and voted Jean to get Moosy lynched which scum almost never do.
So I think Jean, Super, and Art more or less as confirmed town.
Tumble also said something that reminded me I should recheck EoD votes. That's a weird progression. There was no reasonable mayor candidate that wanted to lynch you; It was between Jean whom wanted to lynch MD and GB whom wanted to lynch Emperor at the end. There's still a case to be made for me being town if Emperor is since I voted a mayor that killed scum rather than town (even moreso if GB is scum), but it being because JVJ didn't want to kill you is not one of them. If you're talking about earlier, I voted him to kill me so we could move on, not because I set aside my read on you.
I'm mostly referring to w/e post I quoted earlier that you made in EoD.
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Yea thats the one.
The whole switch of choice over who to lynch is what makes this an imposing EoD to reread. Not only do I need to look at why people voted who they did for mayor, but when that happened in correlation with who the mayor claimed would be the lynch.
That's why I've had issues with Damdred's filter kus his vote and reads were all over the place EoD. Said he didn't trust GB to be mayor kus he's "wishy-washy" or something, voted GB. Pressed Jean to Lynch me and semi-defended Moosy, voted Jean right before EoD who claimed he was going to lynch Moosy.
Like the switch at the end seems towny because Moosy was scum, but nothing about how he got there makes any sense to me.
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On June 27 2016 21:33 Jean Valjean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 20:30 Tictock wrote:On June 27 2016 19:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I think what's more important is that we start smurfhunting now.
Smurf is clearly a native english speaker. Only 48 hits on 'like', half of which being quotes eliminates Geript. I'd like to say that the egotisticalness displayed also eliminates Kita and Slam, and timezones kinda suggest a brit anyway. I'm kinda tempted to say holyflare but I don't think he'd have the energy to play atm. Marv and VE definitely wouldn't, at least not this way. Also too jolly to be DP.
I guess HF is still the most likely? This is silly and pretty pointless and I can't imagine will ever have any value. Unless you are trying to build a case that Jean is the smurf of somebody who is this tryhard and also lynched scum D1 when he didn't have too... ![[image loading]](http://assets1.bigthink.com/system/idea_thumbnails/25298/original/449px-The_Office__USA_-Dwight_Schrute.jpg?1291737714)
I have to assume this is your impression of me right there.
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On June 27 2016 23:13 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 21:12 Tictock wrote:
Yea thats the one.
The whole switch of choice over who to lynch is what makes this an imposing EoD to reread. Not only do I need to look at why people voted who they did for mayor, but when that happened in correlation with who the mayor claimed would be the lynch.
That's why I've had issues with Damdred's filter kus his vote and reads were all over the place EoD. Said he didn't trust GB to be mayor kus he's "wishy-washy" or something, voted GB. Pressed Jean to Lynch me and semi-defended Moosy, voted Jean right before EoD who claimed he was going to lynch Moosy.
Like the switch at the end seems towny because Moosy was scum, but nothing about how he got there makes any sense to me. Damdred has stated at least once his reasons for switching, this post feels very fluffy
It sounds like you disagree with my read then and presumably you think Damdred is town.
So what am I not seeing? Why is Damdred town?
While we are at it, who are you scumreading Emp?
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On June 28 2016 00:25 Jean Valjean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2016 23:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On June 27 2016 23:40 GlowingBear wrote:
I may have made a huge mistake Yeah, you should've pardoned MD! He is probably talking about the bodyguard. This is the one thing that's going to be extremely helpful in deducing GlowingBear's alignment. His choice of bodyguard is very, very important. Do not let him get away with anything less than a full explanation for his choice and make sure it fits his thinking and approach. In addition, this is just speculation, but at some point in the game it may be a good idea to claim the bodyguard role. The reason is quite simple. We probably have some blues the mafia is going to be looking into shooting. A claimed bodyguard is a massive annoyance to mafia because if they want to eliminate me they have to first kill the bodyguard (if I understand the rules correctly). That means two extra nights for our blue roles to do their job. Also, this is more long term, but there is no world where we have named townie + 3 blue roles. That would be excessive, so if a situation comes up where the claims look like that, be very vary of the claims and start making hard decisions on blue roles.
I think it's a little early to be discussing this.
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On June 28 2016 01:08 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 00:48 Tictock wrote:On June 27 2016 23:13 emperorchampion wrote:On June 27 2016 21:12 Tictock wrote:
Yea thats the one.
The whole switch of choice over who to lynch is what makes this an imposing EoD to reread. Not only do I need to look at why people voted who they did for mayor, but when that happened in correlation with who the mayor claimed would be the lynch.
That's why I've had issues with Damdred's filter kus his vote and reads were all over the place EoD. Said he didn't trust GB to be mayor kus he's "wishy-washy" or something, voted GB. Pressed Jean to Lynch me and semi-defended Moosy, voted Jean right before EoD who claimed he was going to lynch Moosy.
Like the switch at the end seems towny because Moosy was scum, but nothing about how he got there makes any sense to me. Damdred has stated at least once his reasons for switching, this post feels very fluffy It sounds like you disagree with my read then and presumably you think Damdred is town. So what am I not seeing? Why is Damdred town? While we are at it, who are you scumreading Emp? I think Damdred stated fairly clearly why he switched his vote. I will discuss reads more during the day phase, but my post does not make any assumptions of damdred's alignment. I am uneasy with how you are coming to your own conclusion in your post about damdred's actions, rather than evaluating what he has already posted. It makes more sense to me to maybe say, "oh I don't believe that you switched your votes for this reason, here is why I think you actually switched votes..." then continue on to your post or something. But I don't see any of that.
Ok I'm just going to assume you are mafia with Damdred then.
I've looked through Damdred's filter multiple times now (just did it again) and I see no explanation for why Damdred went from this
On June 27 2016 00:57 Damdred wrote:
I won't vote gb or super and neither should have the pardoned position.
And gb it's because you don't do well with these sorts of decisions tbh.
While I tr both all a sudden the last few pages have made me kind of suspicious on super just seems off now.
I would like to be pardoner or mayor. There will always be debate but I am one of the best players in this game. And idk why art isn't voting for me rip.
To this
On June 27 2016 04:31 Damdred wrote:
Why am I not even being considered for pardoner when I an the best person ons ite finding town and actually being right?
Literally I am the most level headed and incapable of omgus for a long time. Get me pardoner and gb mayor.
+ voting GB
+ Show Spoiler +and then to this... On June 27 2016 06:25 Damdred wrote:
You know a gb+tt+moosey isn't the most out there team
And I literally see no mention of Jean in his filter till this
On June 27 2016 05:54 Damdred wrote:
Lynch Tt Jean blah
So stop Fucking telling me he's explained all this shit when I can't find anything that does.
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It also makes a lot of sense for Damdred to move his vote to Jean if the scumteam is Moosy/Damdred/Emp.
Choice was elect GB and have Emp lynched or Jean and Moosy lynched.
Moosy flipped goon so... easy call for scum to make there.
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On June 28 2016 01:33 Jean Valjean wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2016 01:27 Tictock wrote:On June 28 2016 01:08 emperorchampion wrote:On June 28 2016 00:48 Tictock wrote:On June 27 2016 23:13 emperorchampion wrote:On June 27 2016 21:12 Tictock wrote:
Yea thats the one.
The whole switch of choice over who to lynch is what makes this an imposing EoD to reread. Not only do I need to look at why people voted who they did for mayor, but when that happened in correlation with who the mayor claimed would be the lynch.
That's why I've had issues with Damdred's filter kus his vote and reads were all over the place EoD. Said he didn't trust GB to be mayor kus he's "wishy-washy" or something, voted GB. Pressed Jean to Lynch me and semi-defended Moosy, voted Jean right before EoD who claimed he was going to lynch Moosy.
Like the switch at the end seems towny because Moosy was scum, but nothing about how he got there makes any sense to me. Damdred has stated at least once his reasons for switching, this post feels very fluffy It sounds like you disagree with my read then and presumably you think Damdred is town. So what am I not seeing? Why is Damdred town? While we are at it, who are you scumreading Emp? I think Damdred stated fairly clearly why he switched his vote. I will discuss reads more during the day phase, but my post does not make any assumptions of damdred's alignment. I am uneasy with how you are coming to your own conclusion in your post about damdred's actions, rather than evaluating what he has already posted. It makes more sense to me to maybe say, "oh I don't believe that you switched your votes for this reason, here is why I think you actually switched votes..." then continue on to your post or something. But I don't see any of that. Ok I'm just going to assume you are mafia with Damdred then. Is this something you genuinely believe?
It's possible.
I'm somewhat sleep deprived and a little frustrated atm so take it with some salt.
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