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CopCake
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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On June 21 2016 05:04 CopCake wrote: Like the right answer here rn is that whoever shot Yamato is newbie or is me or is someone that knows me (pointing you and rsoul) Well that covers everyone in this game..... Also why do you say this? | ||
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CopCake
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CopCake
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rsoultin
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i am not, however, given to needlessly complicating a game. for one, rayn can flip on me at any moment for saying something "stupid" lol >< and secondly my competitiveness generally doesn't extend to winning a game in the "coolest" way possible. i just like to win ^^ i can sorta kinda make an argument for rayn independent of my read on how he's playing (which is actually how i always read him and has proven to be accurate way beyond my usual level of accuracy with other players) that he might be concerned about a shot on me when he's the more obvious scum shot. but that would involve discarding my read. it's paranoia and nothing else really tbh shape i really have a hard time believing that anyone rereading the game OR my filter would have trouble following my line of thought but on the off-chance that you're town or that my impression is wrong, i'll indulge you: 1. gut said super was town for laidback inquisitiveness so i went with that 2. super's "we should kill obv town cause yama is goon" and push on rayn was retarded 3. i thought y'know i doubt he's this retarded, he's prob goon trying to keep us from shooting gf yama and winning the game...so we should prob shoot yama if i'm right 4. shooting someone is better than shooting no one and i'm fine with shooting super for the info if i can't convince people to shoot yama -shrugs- obviously i was wrong about yamato. i was however right that super is in fact not retarded lol >< seems i gave him too little credit, actually if you have any further questions, ask | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On June 21 2016 05:09 CopCake wrote: Oh i know everybody here? I dont know i dont remember meeting shape. no i meant your answer said "anyone in the game" into "who you think would kill yamato".  | ||
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rsoultin
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On June 21 2016 05:08 CopCake wrote: You also know I dont bother with filters I just read people from the experience and from what I remeber. Knowing you I think you wouldnt do this to frame me since as you said it was easier to keep Yamato alive and frame him after killing a dangerous townie (ie you maybe, why wouldnt someone kill the persons that puts so much effort) So unless someone in the future had planned to say "Cake wouldnt be able to kill Rayn so she went to Yamato lol besides cake is the only one who does this type of thing, killing random players" it kinda makes me believe that is either rsoultin or a newbie who i have no idea who is super new gave the shot to yamato. your theory only really makes sense if...you know...i actually did that xP just saying | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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i can sorta kinda make an argument for rayn independent of my read on how he's playing (which is actually how i always read him and has proven to be accurate way beyond my usual level of accuracy with other players) that he might be concerned about a shot on me when he's the more obvious scum shot. but that would involve discarding my read. it's paranoia and nothing else really What does this mean in 5yr old english? | ||
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CopCake
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- newbie - rsoultin or you - myself Obvs is not me because I am town. | ||
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CopCake
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On June 21 2016 05:14 rsoultin wrote: your theory only really makes sense if...you know...i actually did that xP just saying My mind is creative and can create all scenarios and possibilities. | ||
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rsoultin
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On June 21 2016 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: What does this mean in 5yr old english? it means that i think you're town based on my usual method of reading you, which i've had a lot of success with it means that objectively, the most townread player might choose to shoot someone who isn't because it would look weird for me to die over him it means that despite that i trust my read more than the paranoid, maybe rayn shot yamato cause he couldn't shoot himself, thought make sense? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On June 21 2016 05:15 CopCake wrote: Rayn you can like take every word i say with tissues because of my grammar, the person that killed yamato is either: - newbie - rsoultin or you - myself Obvs is not me because I am town. yes and for the players who are not Superbia in this game that includes all the players in the game since Shapelog and Skynx are newbies (in relation to other players and their experience with them) and rest of them are you, me and rsoultin. So i was kinda looking for the answer for "who would in your opinion most likely shoot yamato" and you said "anyone". | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On June 21 2016 05:19 rsoultin wrote: it means that i think you're town based on my usual method of reading you, which i've had a lot of success with it means that objectively, the most townread player might choose to shoot someone who isn't because it would look weird for me to die over him it means that despite that i trust my read more than the paranoid, maybe rayn shot yamato cause he couldn't shoot himself, thought make sense? yes, makes sense. | ||
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Shapelog
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On June 21 2016 04:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is the important thing Shape. This is the answer you will give as either alignment most likely. But for the real answer. Who did it and where is the evidence for that? Well, there is a lot to consider about it. If we were to just razer it, rsoul fits it. As she has pushed it perhaps the most out of anyone about how it connects me to the yammty shot. She has admittedly, open out of the idea a little bit, yet still is focus on me on it. Rsoul knows my meta pretty well (actually PMed me in wonderful, asking if I was town due to how I was playing, which I was.) and has stated it. She was also pretty quick to tie me to it. It wouldn't be hard for her (or anyone who knows my meta) to make that shot and push. But it is more complicated if we look beyond the razer: -I first expect town rsoul to think like that, as she does know my meta. The shot highly looks like my handywork, and it would make sense for her to think me as scum for that shot. Though, this does mean, that I had to have broken my town meta admittedly for my earlier posts. -Second, Like I said in the last sentence, It wouldn't be hard for her (or anyone who knows my meta) to make that shot and push. And, since Super flipped scum, anybody could set that up. Super has played with me in storm, and that game is what makes the meta point strong. He already use the game to TR me inthread, so he did at least have the game in mind. I am guessing, only because of my position and common sense, that the shot had to be at-least planned a bit before the flip. Which could of been spent with super convincing his partner to shot yammty. If it had been lets say, cop or skynx that flip. I wouldn't have to consider point 2. As they do not know my meta. The second point is the biggest thing that is making finding evidence for it hard. But, I am thinking. Scum would want to push my lynch (hence one of the reasons why Rsoul by razer is correct here), so that eliminates skynx for the time being going along that logic. Dropping it to Cake/Ryan/Rsoul + Show Spoiler [About Skynx] + He isn't really at all the same as the newbie game IMO. I want to see how he is reading people as scum, but truth to the matter, is that if he is scum, he could of jumped on this by now. Hell, He SHOULD be on me like a hawk with the framing idea. Yet, he is mossying about, not really to quick to do anything. Out of the 3, Rsoul, Pretty much have said everything for her. Razer bit + point 1 here. It is still possible. Ryan: You have thought about it, but ultimately looking around at other people. You are not necessarily pushing it at all, at most discussing it. There is little reason for you to look at anything else really, as you basically win (expect to keep up activity.) in this serino. Maybe possible, but doubtful. Cake: She isn't pushing me for the meta thing, but is scum reading me hard. She starting with the scum read with the forced joking thing (which I am still awaiting for her to answer the question in the one post about super.) and in general just feels off putting. Not because I am being scum read, but the reasoning I am being scum read, and the responses. She is super tunneled onto me. However, oddly enough, she has suggested the same idea with the framing shot. Just for herself. On June 21 2016 05:04 CopCake wrote: Like the right answer here rn is that whoever shot Yamato is newbie or is me or is someone that knows me (pointing you and rsoul) On June 21 2016 05:08 CopCake wrote: You also know I dont bother with filters I just read people from the experience and from what I remeber. Knowing you I think you wouldnt do this to frame me since as you said it was easier to keep Yamato alive and frame him after killing a dangerous townie (ie you maybe, why wouldnt someone kill the persons that puts so much effort) So unless someone in the future had planned to say "Cake wouldnt be able to kill Rayn so she went to Yamato lol besides cake is the only one who does this type of thing, killing random players" it kinda makes me believe that is either rsoultin or a newbie who i have no idea who is super new gave the shot to yamato. Which I guess she suspects it is Skynx. Opposite of what I believe. This actually could also be another framing shot plan, just without me as the target and instead skynx. Since I haven't played with her, and I am not a newbie (actually, I think I am currently in my 12th and 13th game in total across all sites) I shouldn't be a suspect according to this I think? This came after the posts about me, so *shruggs* Outside of the framing idea, I kinda find it hard to read cake. Reading thru here filter, the super vote was a bit out of no where. On June 20 2016 01:17 CopCake wrote: Superbia sounded the most normal of all of you so she got green card. The ino guy sounded too forced to be cool and funny, fake. I didnt know how to take u and rsoultin because you wanted her neck. Yamato was null so i was like yeah at least he is more normal than the other three so more inclined to town. On June 20 2016 03:54 CopCake wrote: I am inclined to say yamato now for lack of interest but idk his irl. I am intrigued by rayn too. On June 20 2016 05:19 CopCake wrote: How do i send pms here? I will have to just repply artanis, casting vote on super. 2 hours from 1st to last. So, most likely with the framing idea. It is either Rsoul/or cake, with the very off chance that it is you. I might look at cake's filter from PYP, I think she was town that game? | ||
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Shapelog
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rsoultin
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On June 21 2016 05:16 CopCake wrote: My mind is creative and can create all scenarios and possibilities. cake, the point is you're saying that i'm the most likely scum here because i KNEW that you might make a kill like that for the lolz and wanted to frame you if that's your reason it's flawed because 1. i haven't tried to frame you. i am quite obviously scumreading shape 2. i actually don't know you well enough to predict your night kills. obviously this is something that i know and you may disagree with, but yeah...i actually said that i doubted you would do this. when this game is over and it's proven that i'm town, you'll see that it's 100% true and your impression of how well you think i know you is wrong lol >< | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On June 21 2016 05:15 CopCake wrote: Rayn you can like take every word i say with tissues because of my grammar, the person that killed yamato is either: - newbie - rsoultin or you - myself Obvs is not me because I am town. Lol, So I have to ask, Does this mean I am town to you? | ||
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CopCake
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On June 21 2016 05:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: yes and for the players who are not Superbia in this game that includes all the players in the game since Shapelog and Skynx are newbies (in relation to other players and their experience with them) and rest of them are you, me and rsoultin. So i was kinda looking for the answer for "who would in your opinion most likely shoot yamato" and you said "anyone". Lol what? i said a newbie or you and mire inclined to rsoultin how the fuck would i know that shape and styinx are newbies newbies? Like i know shape had interaction with sups and is not that new but i dont know if his few games he were fastastic | ||
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CopCake
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On June 21 2016 05:22 rsoultin wrote: cake, the point is you're saying that i'm the most likely scum here because i KNEW that you might make a kill like that for the lolz and wanted to frame you if that's your reason it's flawed because 1. i haven't tried to frame you. i am quite obviously scumreading shape 2. i actually don't know you well enough to predict your night kills. obviously this is something that i know and you may disagree with, but yeah...i actually said that i doubted you would do this. when this game is over and it's proven that i'm town, you'll see that it's 100% true and your impression of how well you think i know you is wrong lol >< Probabilities of rayn doing this? | ||
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