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On June 20 2016 22:05 Skynx wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2016 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 20 2016 18:47 Skynx wrote:
Its wierd of you to push me btw, I was the only one to get the goon correct. You realize that's not really a point in favor of you being town? I don't see how you conclude this. If we lynched Yamato they would have to kill one of remaining 5 now meaning more information for us and anyway we lynch Super today and win. But you guys didn't want that to happen.
And you didn't vocally object that. I mean, i am not saying it makes you mafia but it definitely doesn't make you town. Just because you have not played as much as other people in this game doesn't mean you shouldn't voice your opinion / make your stance perfectly clear. You are allowed to say and object things you think are going to end up being a wrong decision.
If you are not mafia, then who is? I am not pushing for your lynch here, now. I am trying to figure out what is the most likely answer and from what i know, rsoultin is not the correct answer for being mafia, and i am almost sure Cake is not mafia either. If you disagree with me, let me know why. If you think i am mafia, let other people know why - and give me a chance to answer your accusation. The fact is that "figuring out who is the goon" doesn't make you town and while it doesn't make you mafia either saying that i look fishy (or whatever you are saying) is kinda bs because i have in my opinion clearly elaborated on how i have come to my conclusions in this game.
Just saying "he is calling me mafia so i call him mafia" is not a valid reason, and that's what i see you saying atm. Or like.. at least vocally attacking me just because i am entertaining the possibility of you being mafia.
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On June 20 2016 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2016 22:05 Skynx wrote:On June 20 2016 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On June 20 2016 18:47 Skynx wrote:
Its wierd of you to push me btw, I was the only one to get the goon correct. You realize that's not really a point in favor of you being town? I don't see how you conclude this. If we lynched Yamato they would have to kill one of remaining 5 now meaning more information for us and anyway we lynch Super today and win. But you guys didn't want that to happen. And you didn't vocally object that. I mean, i am not saying it makes you mafia but it definitely doesn't make you town. Just because you have not played as much as other people in this game doesn't mean you shouldn't voice your opinion / make your stance perfectly clear. You are allowed to say and object things you think are going to end up being a wrong decision. If you are not mafia, then who is? I am not pushing for your lynch here, now. I am trying to figure out what is the most likely answer and from what i know, rsoultin is not the correct answer for being mafia, and i am almost sure Cake is not mafia either. If you disagree with me, let me know why. If you think i am mafia, let other people know why - and give me a chance to answer your accusation. The fact is that "figuring out who is the goon" doesn't make you town and while it doesn't make you mafia either saying that i look fishy (or whatever you are saying) is kinda bs because i have in my opinion clearly elaborated on how i have come to my conclusions in this game. Just saying "he is calling me mafia so i call him mafia" is not a valid reason, and that's what i see you saying atm. Or like.. at least vocally attacking me just because i am entertaining the possibility of you being mafia.
I perfectly get your point. I'm tring to get used to just being more active in the way you suggest.
That being said I don't think what else can make me more town. There was 3 votes on Super when i suggested leaving him for D1 might be a better option. Yes I should've posted more reasons trying to convince you guys, reasons i didn't do that was simply because I was super tired and had to wake up early today and had 1% battery. So i just let it go.
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So i didn't try to do that 'he call me mafia so i call him mafia' by calling your push wierd. I objectively thought i couldn't be more town so seeing you do that kind of questioning i found it awkward.
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About who is mafia, i will go back to analyse eod a bit later on. Someone must have gave away something pushing for lynch on Superbia.
Meanwhile, who did you vote Shapelog?
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Okay. I am letting it go, in fact i wasn't even calling you mafia for it in the first place, i just said i don't count it as a reason that would make you town. 
Because if you are mafia that's what you would want and that's how you would most likely approach it.
Anyways, when you can, i'd like to hear more elaboration on who IS mafia. We've got time, but i'd rather start figuring this out sooner than later since i am not sure who is mafia at this point.
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On June 20 2016 07:17 Shapelog wrote:
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But in all seriousness, I had nothing to do with shooting Yammty, and wouldn't. If I was scum, I would of taken the easy ML (going off of what rsoul last post said, due to me being absent) since my 3 for 3 scum streak is alive.
I read/catch up now
On June 20 2016 08:39 Shapelog wrote:
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Meh
Was going to say something about yammty, but I forgot he flipped so lol.
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Do you want to say something about this Shapelog?
I actually find it quite hard to believe that you forgot, in 1 hour and 12 minutes, when you were doing a re-read, who flipped. Especially since basically yamato being shot is the "reason" you are being accused of being scum for -- or part of it.
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nh
i'm doing that thing again where i just can't understand the possible scum motivation for shooting yamato when super is being voted for vig shot in thread
i can't definitively say that i believe cake and skynx are cleared here (and part of me cringes at the idea of possibly being wrong on rayn but honestly i'm just never gonna vote him this game cause i'd like to trust my read on him lol ><)
but just the idea of scum willfully and knowingly voting for super WHILE shooting yamato while they could change it, or vote for someone else, idk. i just don't think that ever happens here
i don't want to be wrong, rayn, but i have a hard time seeing anyone but an afk shapelog being scum with super here. it's just such an unnecessary thing for scum to do. like we can argue that it's confusing as shit to have a yamato shot here until the cows come home, and it is, and it does make my brain hurt a bit...
but i just don't see why scum ever goes through the effort here to make it more difficult to win just cuz. like i don't think cake does this, and i don't know skynx, but i do know that he was at least present enough to vote for super and seemed to understand what we were thinking so unless he's the sort to think it would be stylistically cool...
the simplest explanation is just that it was shapelog and scum wasn't here to change their shot
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On June 20 2016 06:21 Skynx wrote:
Meh i think super is goon trying to take a shot for yamato
Yeah, skynx definitely understood where the lynch was likely to go if/when super flipped goon
-pokes at skynx-
the reason you thinking yamato was goon beforehand doesn't make you town, skynxy, is godfather would know who the goon was. that's what rayn is getting at
anyway, i'd like to hear from people, especially if y'all think my reasoning's flawed
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yes.
We still have time though. I am not going to decide this now just because i don't have to. I am just saying regardless of who yamato voted for being shot he said, in thread, that Skynx is in his opinion most likely to be mafia.
But yes, you are right. I have a hard time seeing anything else as a possible solution. But I am not going to just decide that's it, because i still remember how marv could never be mafia with DP and has to be mafia with Rels because "otherwise he would have voted Rels" in the RSM II game. I'd actually like to not lose this game so anyone is town please do not get lazy now, we already basically got saved with the yamato shot lol.
After dinner i am gonna go see who Cake shot in the PYP game on final nights. Just to have a perspective on if it's totally out of her "league" to make a shot like that or not.
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EBWOP: possible solution to the night kill...
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What i mean regarding Skynx is that yamato actually started posting. yamato is one of the people with highest number of games on this forum. It's not totally out of question yamato starts being active at D2 and towntells and the right people figure out he is town, if Skynx is the godfather.
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meh she didn't kill anyone when she was alive alone...
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ah, yeah, true, i suppose there could be a scramble omg so-and-so will vote for me, especially from a newer player
it's not the most logical approach but that's bitten me in the ass before with tumbleweed lol that's why i'm trying to get people to give input, too. i want different perspectives...in most games i'm dead before being wrong can lose us the game lol >< or have had enough lynches to get out of my wrong tunnels by you know >> mislynching my mistakes
like if it were lightning round, tina chooses the lynch, i know where i'd be ^^
but since we're talking about investigating other avenues while we have the time, skynxy, pretend i'm not a gamer (and compared to the rest of y'all i pretty much am not) and explain that meta kill comment you made to me in non-nerd terms? i'd like to know what you think about the shot
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On June 20 2016 11:56 CopCake wrote:
You are mafia, sorry it sucks. I am never serious and i have a bubbly personality and my mood never changed unless someone doesnt understand me for my grammar.
You on the other hand from posting images of a bad anime show became a serious paranoid player.
Maybe because I do not want to cause town to lose the game?
Nice to see your also tunneled onto me for "forced joking."
my money's on shape. it helps that he's also like the only one i know here who actually thinks that making confusing night kills is a better strat than just removing the obv players who are 1) widely townread and 2) can solve the game
Not necessary.
All my WIFOM night kills have some sort of agenda behind it. All the shots in storm after 3rd was killed was for the all blue lylo (minus LS, cause LS was actually on my tail). Usually, it is to push town into lynching a player, or I am setting up something to win. I plan my moves out as scum (all my scum games shows this, newbie 19, storm, and tortiuse (the unvote vote FF etc.))
I have no plan here. That is the deference.
I explain more on what I think it means with this post from ryan.
Shapelog's big post is all over the place and i have no idea what he is talking about in it. Suddenly everyone is scum? What?
That was just my thoughts catching up, they were hasty due to me having another game's lynch (day 4) that I had to get to at 8.
I am questioning everybody and pointing out anything I see scummy/something I want more info about.
For example, I want to rsoul to explain the change,
Get cakes feed back about the super sit. back,
etc.
I kinda am thinking (and I will admit cake, this might be paranoid) that the shot was a frame shot on me due to my meta. The prob. is that I cannot just go "Oh it is one of ryan/rsoul, due to them knowing my scum meta." because super was scum, and could of told either skynx or cake about how I shot.
So I am basically questioning everyone, trying to POE.
On June 21 2016 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On June 20 2016 07:17 Shapelog wrote:
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But in all seriousness, I had nothing to do with shooting Yammty, and wouldn't. If I was scum, I would of taken the easy ML (going off of what rsoul last post said, due to me being absent) since my 3 for 3 scum streak is alive.
I read/catch up now Show nested quote +On June 20 2016 08:39 Shapelog wrote:
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Meh
Was going to say something about yammty, but I forgot he flipped so lol.
[...] Do you want to say something about this Shapelog? I actually find it quite hard to believe that you forgot, in 1 hour and 12 minutes, when you were doing a re-read, who flipped. Especially since basically yamato being shot is the "reason" you are being accused of being scum for -- or part of it.
I was reading the game and saw one of yamato posts, was in a analyzing mode, analyzed it, and remembered that he died.
Meanwhile, who did you vote Shapelog?
No one.
Wasn't here/able to type anything till my post after the shot had happen.
What do think now that you have this information?
the simplest explanation is just that it was shapelog and scum wasn't here to change their shot
Annoying thing is, is that I cannot say that this is wrong, in the sense of it being the most simplest of explanations.
The prob. is, is that I cannot follow it at all, as it is wrong due to the information I have with my PM. The most simplest explanation for me, is that I being framed via the shot.
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Cake would you or would you not shoot yamato if you were mafia? Why?
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I kinda am thinking (and I will admit cake, this might be paranoid) that the shot was a frame shot on me due to my meta. The prob. is that I cannot just go "Oh it is one of ryan/rsoul, due to them knowing my scum meta." because super was scum, and could of told either skynx or cake about how I shot.
This is the important thing Shape. This is the answer you will give as either alignment most likely.
But for the real answer. Who did it and where is the evidence for that?
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Shapelog so you think Skynx is the towniest person in the game besides you correct?
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On June 21 2016 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Cake would you or would you not shoot yamato if you were mafia? Why?
I would shot Yamato for the lols and do something unexpected (I like chaos when I am mafia) but cant be bothered rn because as you know I work tons during weekdays so I cant plot giganstic shit when busy.
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Like I am not gonna deny that is a really cake type of thing.
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EPT
