[M][N] H O L Y F * * * E mafia!!

On May 23 2016 20:07 Superbia wrote:


Invite to mafia world championship?

On May 25 2016 06:40 sicklucker wrote:
ah come on rels even I might read the thread today

On May 24 2016 08:19 ritoky wrote:
- Kush is not mafia with LightningStrike Posts 85-88
- Holyflare is not mafia with Damdred: Posts 87-93

On May 24 2016 18:18 Holyflare wrote:






So, which do you think it is? Am I going for reactions or are you suspicious because I called out a scum slip with certainty?

I feel like many of your posts say things that don't reach any conclusions and me no likey.

On May 25 2016 02:17 Superbia wrote:
Damdred also feels scummy, but one at a time.

On May 25 2016 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:

It's pretty self explanatory. If you are interested in a specific read from someone on a certain player then telling your opinion about that exact player in the same post completely defeats the purpose.

On May 25 2016 02:23 Superbia wrote:


I find it hard to believe that you are this short-sighted as town.

Why am I asking that question?

On May 25 2016 02:34 Tumblewood wrote:

This is definitely townie. LS is fighting to prevent a mislynch, which is pro-town and has no benefit if he's scum.

On May 25 2016 03:16 justanothertownie wrote:
Yeah, supers big post explained exactly nothing and his abrasiveness is similar to how he played recently as mafja.

On May 25 2016 20:05 Superbia wrote:


He's on the sidelines. Rereading d1 now and my feeling regarding damdred hasn't changed.

On May 25 2016 04:19 Superbia wrote:


Lolll what? Not in the games I was in.

On May 25 2016 20:14 Superbia wrote:
Rels I expect you to evaluate HF's and JAT's alignment as well, rather than join in on this wagon against me. You believe they are both town?

On May 25 2016 20:13 Superbia wrote:


A direction.

On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
So I am rolling with
Kush town (never lynch till at least everybody made a clearly town post)

On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
ritoky town

On May 25 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote:
Damdred extremely bad or mafia.

On May 25 2016 07:15 Palmar wrote:

I AM A FREE MAN TO DO AS I PLEASE

On February 08 2016 20:16 marvellosity wrote:

funny thing is, this is actually one of the main reasons i got lynched (as mafia) in Artanis' first invite game in December or whenever it was.

I'm almost always somewhat/totally absent over weekends, like Palmar, but on that occasion I just didn't mention it. I always mention it as town. It was pretty silly of me really.

On May 25 2016 20:31 Superbia wrote:


No. I was not interested in Imperial. Storm I was on mafia day 1, even though I was 3rd p. That game was actually pretty close to my town meta.

Why are your putting words in my mouth?

On May 25 2016 04:25 Superbia wrote:


I think I have a pretty decent grasp on how you play town though, imo. Maybe I'm not wording it correctly, or we see things (i.e. you) differently, but I'm pretty sure I know the difference between your town and mafia play.

That being said, I haven't reached a conclusion yet (ironic). Probably a mix between being tired and people I expected to show up not showing up. Which also probably both lead to having a small town circle.

On May 25 2016 20:37 Koshi wrote:

1) he said that marv was probably the best lynch. probably being the key word.

2) effort and then more effort when that is obviously not required. + his posts are pretty good, he is just imho wrong on TW. But his posts are quite obviously written by a townie.

3) not answering this one because you clearly didn't bother to read his filter. fuck off.

On May 25 2016 21:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


I been really busy with IRL lately so I'm not caught up.
Just reading the most recent page, this seems like a really unreliable case. I dont suspect you for believing it, though.
Last game town Marv "forgot" about the game more than once. As someone who plays primarily at work I know that having that taken away would tank my activity levels. If you have to spend time with your needy boyfriend/girlfriend, they usually don't take kindly to you playing mafia.

If anything, blatantly breaking that meta you brought up probably makes Marv more likely to be town. If he knows the meta well enough to tell you about it, you can be damn sure he's thinking about it as mafia.

On May 25 2016 22:46 Palmar wrote:
like this is a true 100% palmar is actually trying read. You should think about it. I even read his filter and it's kinda bad.

On May 25 2016 22:52 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@sl, what superbia game are you talking about so I can look it up?

On May 25 2016 23:06 Palmar wrote:

his tone and you're bad

On May 25 2016 23:09 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


I'd say what's bad about it is he is jumping on people for stuff that he should know doesn't make them mafia.
It reminds me of the scum tactic of making super aggressive and terrible cases on people, then excusing them as pressure or conversation starters.

On May 25 2016 23:17 sicklucker wrote:
Thing is marv is even more scummy then super somehow. so we have these two guys who should flip mafia a decind amount of the time based on history. Yet he wants to go off the board on hf. IT kind of feels like a "hey look at me im town i have the bals to go after a not easy lynch" then an acual good decision

On May 25 2016 22:06 Tumblewood wrote:
Oh shit I should use my superpowers of TvT argument detection on me vs. ritoky

On May 26 2016 02:02 marvellosity wrote:

Reading snippets while I have a moment. I'm not really so much fine with being lynched as I kinda realise it's inevitable.

I'm not sure why you think with any reasonable certainty at all that I am mafia this game given being veteran and shot last game saved me from bag loads of suspicion as I was inactive and didn't play for most of d1. Granted I had more posts there but I started a new job this week so there we go.

I'd like to call you town but I'm almost loathe to do so as you calling me town last game was a reason you were mafia, but the one thing you quoted on hf was actually quite okay

On May 26 2016 02:19 Damdred wrote:
Superbia is a bit of mixed bag the frustration at Hf seems real for what he considers a horrible case, I pointed some things out earlier that I didn't like but explained decently. Actually playing game though which gives me some town points and a couple other things they said made me go maybe they are town. Really I don't think I want to Lynch super

Ls I'm pretty sure is town tbh. Rough start pushing what he thinks. I mean it would be such a good adjustment in his scum game to do this I kinda can't see it right now.

Palmar idk being a bit trolly to me, kinda see it as more town than anything but its more if a gut feeling than anything.

I don't know Palmar is a coin flip other two I wouldn't touch today at least.

On May 26 2016 03:10 justanothertownie wrote:
So, are we doing this? Last chance to get me to switch elsewhere (probably only to superbia though).

On May 26 2016 03:19 marvellosity wrote:

And a town marv with no time would do what?

What's with the dumb certainty

On May 26 2016 03:24 marvellosity wrote:

As per palmar that's clearly not the case.

You know, the guy I talk to by far the most about mafia.

essentislly you don't know me at all

On November 27 2015 02:32 marvellosity wrote:

go to database

look at scumgames. see where it says "lynched day x"
look at towngames. see where it never says lynched.

that is reality

in short, shut the fuck up, everything i say is verifiable

On May 26 2016 03:41 marvellosity wrote:

You're starting to look scummy because I didn't boohoo it at all. I even clarified I didn't even mean now, but in the last 3 games I played I'm only posting about 1/3 as much or less. It's just a realistic assessment of the expectations of me and my ability to play.

Again, ask palmar about this sort of thing.

Or keep pushing this and look awful later. Whichever is good I guess

On May 26 2016 03:42 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


why cant they both be wrong?

On May 25 2016 23:15 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
that sounds pretty legit, sl. ill read both games and see if I agree at lunch.

On May 26 2016 04:40 ritoky wrote:
If I had my preferred lynch today it would be rels. Things he is electing to highlight and prod at this game are shallow at best, his reasoning for suspicions and pushes is poor for his standards, and when he types in caps or types in his "passion voice" it feels contrived.

On May 26 2016 05:10 ritoky wrote:


I think this is his best post:



This is a post that I also keyed in on, but then rels never mentions tumble again in the remainder of his filter. Town rels to me, keeps pulling on a loose thread until he reaches the end; why does he just drop this?

His read on me makes no sense too, he likes everything I post but thinks the style in which I am playing is inherently anti-town thus I am mafia. Since when does style supersede content...especially for rels?

I also believe his points against superbia are significantly better than his points against marv and much more grounded in non-meta crap, which begs the question for me why the hell he is pushing marv so much harder than superbia?

This post took way too long on this device; sticking to short replies.

On May 26 2016 06:09 ritoky wrote:
Well I am depressed now....just found out I have type 2 diabetes....thanks genetics.

On May 26 2016 06:45 marvellosity wrote:
frankly i'm not letting hf getting away with self-voting and abandoning the game

pretty sure he's done that as mafia

and it's a massive dick move if he's town as well as mafia anyway.

On May 26 2016 06:49 marvellosity wrote:

just reading Gaiden atm and he was arguing about people's alignments right to the end, even while accepting his fate

is that not the case?

should he not be doing that here?

On May 26 2016 06:54 ritoky wrote:
Koshi spams ritoky is mafia all game - the original story.

Nothing is changing, I think this lynch is wrong; but most of my TRs are on it, so idk maybe I am the bad one this game.

##vote: holyflare

On May 26 2016 06:55 Damdred wrote:
Planar marv tell me what to do and I'll do it.

##unvote
##Vote Holyflare

On May 26 2016 21:07 Koshi wrote:
I think ritoky is town and Rels is mafia.

On May 26 2016 07:33 Damdred wrote:
He sure was right about shape a couple games ago...

On May 26 2016 08:48 Koshi wrote:
1 more thing. Rels feeling guilty and feels he need to reread while his filter is filled with suspicion towards hf and ritoky is just hilarious.

On May 26 2016 09:27 sicklucker wrote:
wait hf self lynched? maybe it is the obvious people and he wanted the fuck out... who the hell self lynches as scum

On May 26 2016 21:14 Koshi wrote:

sure... You agree with everything HF says but you don't townread him? That is clearly suspicion.

How can you agree with EVERYTHING a person says but not townread him without being suspicious of that person?

On March 24 2016 22:35 Rels wrote:

null. You're capable of that as scum so unless you push scum D1 you're not going to get above that today

That's the inherrient difficulty going newbie to normal. Having to develop those things you learn.

Like right now, Rels is obvious town for his failed move to trfel. No way no hope of town jumping would he do that. Its someone on the ff wagon maybe looking for cred.

It makes most sense

On May 26 2016 21:44 justanothertownie wrote:

huh?

On April 25 2016 05:55 justanothertownie wrote:

This doesn't convince me. Tumble arguably WAS pretty townie in the end. But you still did not vote superbia. Sure, if you are town you did vote to kill tumble and not to save superbia but we can't analyze you assuming you are town from the start.

On May 26 2016 21:47 sicklucker wrote:


ah no. palmar and koshi are like over 90% the otheres are pretty average at like maybe better then 10/12 to be town 99% bro? do you know what 99% means?

On May 26 2016 21:48 justanothertownie wrote:

Kinda - not super towny. But it's hard to describe.

On May 26 2016 21:50 sicklucker wrote:
tumble is my second strongest townread rels... maybe third. I dont know what your talking about. also he was hf's lynch target

On May 26 2016 21:51 sicklucker wrote:


like my point was how can you be ride or die with marv and dandred already? your overexadertaing right? like dandred didnt even do anything. I sapose he soft defended hf when he already was doomed

On May 26 2016 21:51 sicklucker wrote:


i didnt ? thats why i fucking voted him? you were just really scummy

On May 24 2016 18:18 Holyflare wrote:






So, which do you think it is? Am I going for reactions or are you suspicious because I called out a scum slip with certainty?

I feel like many of your posts say things that don't reach any conclusions and me no likey.

On May 26 2016 07:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1 Final Votecount

Holyflare (8): Palmar, marvellosity, nnn_thekushmountains, Holyflare, nnn_thekushmountains, justanothertownie, Koshi, Superbia, ritoky, Damdred
Superbia (3): Holyflare, Damdred, Rels, LightningStrike, Tumblewood
ritoky (1): Superbia, Tumblewood, sicklucker, nnn_thekushmountains, Koshi
marvellosity (1): nnn_thekushmountains, Rels, sicklucker, Tumblewood
LightningStrike (0): Holyflare, Damdred, Palmar
justanothertownie (0): Koshi
Tumblewood (0): Holyflare
Palmar (0): Koshi, LightningStrike

On May 26 2016 22:13 sicklucker wrote:
you know how i feel about busing..

On May 26 2016 22:32 justanothertownie wrote:

I found the whole post stupid. Because there is nothing in there but baseless assumptions.

On May 26 2016 22:33 Koshi wrote:

Why do you disagree with math? 4+1=5 logic.
Just follow the logic.

On May 26 2016 04:40 ritoky wrote:
If I had my preferred lynch today it would be rels. Things he is electing to highlight and prod at this game are shallow at best, his reasoning for suspicions and pushes is poor for his standards, and when he types in caps or types in his "passion voice" it feels contrived.

On May 26 2016 22:52 justanothertownie wrote:

Well, without saying you are wrong here - there was some kind of explanation. He said his townreads were all on the wagon.

On May 27 2016 01:22 Damdred wrote:


What's the point in town reading one of your only ml this game. He's not getting like 8 people lynched so kinda in a shit situation if he has to rely on you guys lynching me and him fighting against it

On May 27 2016 08:06 Palmar wrote:
only reason anyone would shoot koshi is marv.

If it's not marv, mafia would shoot me or marv.

this makes marv mafia every time.

On May 27 2016 15:23 marvellosity wrote:
##vote damdred
Or on palmar. Stupidity has killed my motivation so do what you will. I've done a 0% play as scum this game (for me), and the little time I have to play I just want to have fun and I can do better things with my time

Palmar you're not good enough to use nk like I can on you.

On May 28 2016 03:17 Damdred wrote:


I think he was relaxed for ls under pressure.

On May 28 2016 04:08 justanothertownie wrote:

No, it's not. Why wouldn't marv shoot palmar? Why wouldn't someone else like kush shoot obvious town koshi?

On May 28 2016 04:15 justanothertownie wrote:

No. That alone does not heavily imply anything like that. Koshi is a very good kill regardless and also a medic dodge if palmar and marv are both town.

On May 28 2016 04:03 Rels wrote:

I don't understand the last sentence

On May 28 2016 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:

Why? Does not seem very important to me.

He obviously thinks he can catch palmar based on nightkills. Like last game where he Palmar got stomped for our failed marv nightkill.

On May 28 2016 04:26 justanothertownie wrote:

Like I said. Pretty sure he is referring to damdreds game and how he caught Palmar for nking him. Now Palmar acts if he caught marv for the koshi nightkill so that's why this sentence is there.

On May 28 2016 14:20 sicklucker wrote:
is it just me or is this like the most boring game I have ever been in

On May 28 2016 17:50 marvellosity wrote:
Look at what vivax has posted. Jack shit. I was probably 2/2 on day 1 with ritoky and hf, and suspicion all over me because a mafia self voted. The thing that's even more annoying is that if hf flipped town even more people would be suspicious of me but I'd still be town.

Of course I didn't cause hf to be lynched, but he had what, 5 pages of filter in 24h before he gave up? Seems kinda efforty if you're plan is to just give up. Literally the only reason I signed up for this game was to play with an Hf who never had time to play, and the glorious plan we come up with on Skype or whatever is that when hf had one vote from palmar that everyone is totally ignoring, I will vote him, he'll give up and I won't get to play with him at all. It really is genius.

This is how much time I have for mafia now and if I might get lynched when only 2/13 scrubs who were on bloody hf day 1 before he self voted is getting lynched for it, I have no idea how to play in the future and not get lynched when I'm actually wrong about stuff.

I can't wait to flip and then you lot go 'oh yeah, the guy who pushed motherfucking hf on day 1 for no reason was actually town. Pretty fucking obvious in hindsight'

I've not read anything except clicking vivax's filter to see if my vote was still reasonable. Just been woken up and killing some time before I doze off with some bitching, because why not. Enjoy

On May 27 2016 08:06 Palmar wrote:
only reason anyone would shoot koshi is marv.

If it's not marv, mafia would shoot me or marv.

this makes marv mafia every time.

On May 28 2016 18:20 Palmar wrote:
right. If it wasn't obvious I wasn't really serious about killing marv because of the night kill.

However, his response to it has been uncharacteristic. I honestly have no idea what that means. I could see a world where marv is frustrated by being put under pressure for no good reason at all and just goes fuck it. However it would be a complete first for him that I remember as town.

I don't even know if I can draw the line from "uncharacteristic -> scum". But given how he has responded today, which was mostly very hostile, I also can't make the opposite conclusion.

Like if we assume marv is just normal marv, he must be mafia here, because he would never be this hostile, unproductive as town. I am of course speculating here, but my experience leads me to believe he would have ridiculed or ignored me and spent his time doing at least something useful, however little time that is.

In conclusion, I'm debating myself whether I should stay on lynching marv. I have absolutely 0 faith in the argument I voted him for earlier in the day (the NK one). It feels like a dick move to lynch him like this, because I mostly baited him into becoming mad. On the other hand, if I lose to a marv that doesn't play like a town marv I would be pretty furious at myself. Also, I genuinely believe what I said on day 1 about marv being tired of his meta, so technically maybe it's ok to lynch him as town this one time to open up his doors for being less productive than what we're used to.

I _think_ it's mechanically the right play to kill marv today. He hasn't given us any information and mostly just built a fort from where he calls people bad. No matter how you look at it, marv doesn't sound like town marv. But the problem is I'm not entirely sure he sounds like scum marv either.

In other news, Rels sheeping my fake and bad reasoning in the way he did looks really bad.

On May 26 2016 16:41 Superbia wrote:
I'm super envious about the sway Palmar/Marv have. Especially when it's now obvious I was not crazy.

On May 28 2016 21:47 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I was afraid of that happening lol.

On May 29 2016 00:01 Vivax wrote:
Im back.

Contrary to what kush said the NK isn't the reason marv has a majority on him, it was just the fake reason Palmar used. Only Rels sheeped that reasoning afaik, and Palmar shat on him for that (but in my opinion concluding stuff from the NK is legit play as long as it's not the only base you have).

The main reason is just the straight up unmotivated play which is his mafia meta.

If marv is town here and actually lynched scum on D1, he should be on a goddamn crusade already shitting on everyone voting for him, but he's like "meh stupids lynch Vivax". He tries to lynch me in every fucking game save a few very rare exceptions, it's like a sport for him. He knows it, so he will try to do it as either alignment. It's also pretty easy to push a replacement since you can more easily make it appear as if he isn't doing much. If you judge my play you have to judge it as if this was still D1, cause for me it is.

Having said that, I still think we lynch into super or marv today and if we didn't win we just keep going. I also advise you to simply check out their interactions. Marv's read on super is very shallow and he's keeping him in a blind spot, while super has the post that says "I dont think marv should get a pass" which is a scummy post in the context in which it was posted since marv wasn't getting a pass at all. And it also doesn't give any read on him.

On May 29 2016 02:58 LightningStrike wrote:
If marv flips scum can we please lynch Superbia afterwards? Game will end with his lynch most likely. Since my planned lynch isn't happening I might as well vote the main wagon.
##Vote: Marvellosity

On May 25 2016 22:22 sicklucker wrote:


1/11 chance of being mafia with you and ritoky

On May 27 2016 09:30 sicklucker wrote:


hum... I mean lets see a bit closer to deadline. im not even set on super yet. I just noticed dandred voted marv. tempting...


also wtf? ok im not sure i want you in my trifecta

On May 27 2016 09:39 sicklucker wrote:


there my two lynches. im set ez day

On May 30 2016 01:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:

answer to both questions:
my skillz

On May 30 2016 02:13 justanothertownie wrote:

Saw this list, was about to go apeshit.

But having read your other posts I don't mind it that much. Did you read my filter too? You were townreading me earlier and now I am at the lowest end of your townlist? Below fucking vivax? Seriously?
I obviously don't agree with Vivax in any townlist but your reasoning sounds okay'ish for you to believe.

On May 30 2016 03:02 sicklucker wrote:


i didnt really talk at all day 2? im bored waiting to lynch him and marv

On May 30 2016 03:03 sicklucker wrote:


wut? how do you get from point a to im lynchable..

On May 30 2016 05:42 Damdred wrote:
Also because I'm dumb and tried to Yolo block mafia I hit tumble n1 Rio my bad decisions and koshi

On May 30 2016 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:

Because sometimes the gf isn't the one that can get townread. Also to be fair I was the only one townreading TW.

On May 30 2016 07:21 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I am 2 shot parity cop.
Is and tumble came back as the same.

On May 30 2016 09:41 Tumblewood wrote:
o shit I forgot to tell you guys
rels's pressure on kush to answer his tmi question is bad
like, he's trying to threaten kush but what he's saying isn't threatening in the least
+ Show Spoiler +

On May 30 2016 09:16 Tumblewood wrote:
now that that's out of the way, I might start thinking about the game

town
me
Damdred I guess
kush I guess
LS
vivax
SL, probably

mafia
Rels
Palmar, maybe? fear lynch at best right now

really mafia
hm gee I wonder who it is

so today we can lynch superbia and he'll flip scum and then mafia kills damdred or someone and then we lynch rels and he flips scum or if he doesn't mafia kills another confirmed town and the next day we either lynch palmar or stop listening to a gameplan made on d3. sounds good? sounds good.

On May 30 2016 11:09 sicklucker wrote:


he could have tracked mafia last night tho.... you dont ever take dandreds claim as a 1 shot at face value, everyone would claim 1 shot. a 2 shot or a full power. they would all claim 1 shot. mafias stupid to leave him in the game. its probably only 50/50 hes an actual 1 shot

On May 30 2016 14:01 Tumblewood wrote:

Superbia did 5 things that should all make him scum... "He's very likely scum." How much do you need? Are you afraid of being called out for TMI or something? You repeat the entire case that's been beaten to death about Superbia, which logically makes him total scum, but that final statement is so weak. Blech.

On May 30 2016 17:38 Palmar wrote:
3 blues in a game this size is normal. 4 is too much, 2 is only ok if it's very strong blues.

This means, with kush, marv and damdred claimed, that anyone who is blue should immediately CC. If there is a 4th blue claim, we lynch into the blues.

Any blue claims after today should be autolynched.

On May 30 2016 23:35 Superbia wrote:


2shot tracker & 2shot parity. Wanderer would be way more likely. Also we don't (shouldn't) know rest of mafia PRs.

Pls talk about people outside of parity check.

On May 30 2016 23:52 Superbia wrote:
You may call me mafia but don't call me dumb

On May 30 2016 23:56 Superbia wrote:
I'm all about townie tinfoil but you just wayy branched of from your other proposed scumteam. Why?

On May 30 2016 23:57 Superbia wrote:


I think correctly calling out HF when no one else did was pretty smart

On May 31 2016 00:07 Damdred wrote:
One thing that's kinda eh to me is that hf wouldn't wait to self vote until super got on before him in that case.

Just so weird ruining any cred your partners could get by bussing

On May 31 2016 00:14 Vivax wrote:
Id like anyone scurmeading SL to make an actual case. Palmar and kush that would be. I still see no reason to lynch him over superbia today.

On May 31 2016 00:57 Palmar wrote:
you deserve everyone's scumlist rels. You've done some shady shit this game.

On May 31 2016 02:05 Vivax wrote:
The worst I see in SL's filter which is recent is the way he gets worked up about JAT getting NKd and afterwards adds that damdred might be mafia.

It's bad cause I don't see him getting emotional about Damdred not getting killed unless he is really really convinced that Damdred is town. Which afterwards turns out he isn't. So if Damdred at some point turns out to be town which atm I think he is then that's an argument for SL being mafia, cause he accidentally might have slipped out that he knows Damdred is town.

On May 31 2016 03:13 Tumblewood wrote:

disagree on both counts. the first quote makes sense and I was caught up for the second one.

that isn't nonsense rels, and you should be good enough to know. the "very likely scum" is super weak for a post that was at best trying to drive a point home (because it's not like super=scum was original at the time).

On May 31 2016 07:15 sicklucker wrote:
let see who mafia can lynh

Dandred - nope tracked tumbles no nk delervery NOPE
kush- nope or tumble or ls because copped
Ls- NOPE
tumble- NOPE

that leaves those 3 and me and vivax.

Now vivax is defending me which is against his win con so hes never fucking mafia. That and hes obvious town. So you got me whos obvious town this makes the game auto as fuck.

Palmar/rels/super also what do they have in common? THEY ALL WANT TO FUCKING KILL ME. Mafia needs 2 or 3 mislynches ot win. They always have to kill me to win because they nked jat for some reason over dandred.

SO vivax is pretty much confirmed town by not wanting to kill me when mafia has to kill me to win ( we went over this a few times)

So if im mafia whos my partner? no one because everyone wants to kill me.

Simple

On May 31 2016 07:54 sicklucker wrote:
also koshi was the first nk of the freakin game. what did me and koshi have in common?

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 31 2016 17:33 Palmar wrote:
So rels, your mafia must then be super/ritoky?

On May 31 2016 17:36 Palmar wrote:

if you think that I'm just gonna vote you. The rest of the baddies can possibly be explained as you know.... baddies, but you don't get that excuse.

##vote Rels

On May 31 2016 17:47 Palmar wrote:
Regarding Rels.

It's mostly a "I don't wanna believe you're this bad" lynch.

I provided excellent reasons for killing HF on day 1, he resisted them.
I provided awful reasons for killing marv on day 2, he didn't even hesitate.

There's also some other stuff. He actually makes the best reason in the universe to townread me (I would never risk going after marv on day 2 like that. I would always, always, always shoot him or try to maintain amiable relations until such a time I can shoot him). Then he turns around, ignores his own perfect logic and says "it doesn't hold up" to some bullshit reasons as to why some other people are town.

This is literally the best argument in the game, made by himself, and he ignores it.

I am fairly certain Rels is mafia.

On May 31 2016 17:56 sicklucker wrote:
acualy we have two mislynches you said rels? that means we can even lynch vivax if the games still going on and as long as im town we still win...

Crazy how easy this game seems. Do we really only need to find one town in five?

On May 31 2016 23:15 Palmar wrote:
I think the correct play today is to lynch Rels, not superbia. I feel like he has done nothing to push the game onward, his reads are inconsistent and he's been supremely useless/bad given how good he is capable of playing.

On May 30 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
Like there's 95% no miller. We already flipped a mafia role that fucks w/ parity cop. It's more likely there's one more role that fucks with tracker specifically. And there's no wanderer&tracker.

On June 01 2016 00:11 Palmar wrote:

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This post just makes you more likely to be mafia. There is no way you would be this sure I am one after that HF lynch. Hell everything I've done logically should make sense to you.

Rels brain:

Palmar wanted to lynch mafia day 1, but I didn't...

Palmar lynched townie day 2 with reasons I liked and sheeped

conclusion: Palmar mafia because I agree with him when he's not more right than I am.

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I have no idea man...

On June 01 2016 02:03 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


but 1 person alone does not decide the nk. it could have been someone else's decision, especially where you've been so afk.
I'm not saying it makes you scum, but I don't find this a compelling argument for you being town.

On June 01 2016 02:07 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
@rels
Also pretend you are town palmar, there aren't that many people to suspect, and you have been very inactive this game.
From Palmar's perspective, two of you, superbia, sl, and vivax are scum. Thinking you are scum is completely reasonable.

On June 01 2016 00:15 Superbia wrote:
Rels -> vivax. If game not over its prob one of the checks

On June 01 2016 00:14 Superbia wrote:
I think palmar is town bc he had no reason to not just let the wagon on me as mafia

On June 01 2016 02:55 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:


something super early game like that doesn't hold weight for me in late game.

On June 01 2016 03:07 Superbia wrote:


Palmar and SL are prob both town.

On June 01 2016 04:40 Damdred wrote:
Lol but if you flip Miller ls we get a free scum in tumble!

But no I think rels is more likely than vivax he's kinda low atm

On June 01 2016 06:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Hmm the quietness of this thread atm is kinda worrying but I think Superbia will flip scum if it not him it probably Rels/Vivax as the remaining scum team based on my PoE.

On June 01 2016 06:50 LightningStrike wrote:

worrying because no one seem to want to talk before the lynch.

On June 01 2016 07:12 Palmar wrote:
Damdred if you can you should last minute claim jail on someone (assuming you have shots left).

On June 01 2016 10:28 sicklucker wrote:
damn I cant wait to read this scum qt with hf somehow deciding to let himself get lynched. and super bitching about being mafia for the fourth time and being arrogant calling town horrible .

On May 25 2016 06:13 Holyflare wrote:
Ritoky posted the exact same thing Superbia, guess all three of us must be mafia together. Game over guys.

On May 25 2016 08:03 sicklucker wrote:
but lets assume super is mafia. Super reqeust ritoky my other scum read to do a "robot read" on him. Ritoky comes to the conclusion.

Ritoky also pushes on tumbleweed who is hfs other scum read. Hf often decides day one lynches and his two scum reads now are tumble and super. So we have ritoky trying to push hf's direcetion off of superbia. (superbia also asked his to do a read how convient)

Im going down the vivax hole here but I wanna br right I think im right.

Lets not forget I scum read them both individually but there is alot of thing pointing they might be a team. I know its early but Im more confident then I have ever been in a day 1 association read. Just like in my last game how I was more confident then I ever was on a day 1 read that superbia was mafia ( I was right)

I think this is a team boys

On May 25 2016 21:55 Palmar wrote:
Also LS had way too many confident reads way too early.

On May 26 2016 06:54 ritoky wrote:
Koshi spams ritoky is mafia all game - the original story.

Nothing is changing, I think this lynch is wrong; but most of my TRs are on it, so idk maybe I am the bad one this game.

##vote: holyflare

On May 26 2016 07:06 Koshi wrote:
HF/Superbia/Ritoky

ez game ez life

On June 01 2016 21:12 Palmar wrote:
yes

but if rels is town I have to move him down my internal power rankings.

On June 01 2016 21:17 Palmar wrote:

You were in top 10, I think you'll be bumped down to maybe 13. But thankfully I'd move sicklucker up to rank 9, which means everything between 10-12 will remain the same, including jat at 11.

On June 01 2016 21:30 sicklucker wrote:
ya never lynch who koshi wants basicly

On May 26 2016 21:39 Rels wrote:
So it's 99% likely Palmar marv Damdred and Koshi are town.
JAT is almost there.
Gonna be EZ

On June 01 2016 22:19 Palmar wrote:
marv is like #25 because he taps out like a pussy half of his games.

On May 27 2016 09:15 sicklucker wrote:
and the fact koshi was the nk over someone like palmar, suggest mine and koshis theory of ritoky+ super is quite likely and that will be who I will kill today

On May 28 2016 17:50 marvellosity wrote:
Look at what vivax has posted. Jack shit. I was probably 2/2 on day 1 with ritoky and hf, and suspicion all over me because a mafia self voted. The thing that's even more annoying is that if hf flipped town even more people would be suspicious of me but I'd still be town.

Of course I didn't cause hf to be lynched, but he had what, 5 pages of filter in 24h before he gave up? Seems kinda efforty if you're plan is to just give up. Literally the only reason I signed up for this game was to play with an Hf who never had time to play, and the glorious plan we come up with on Skype or whatever is that when hf had one vote from palmar that everyone is totally ignoring, I will vote him, he'll give up and I won't get to play with him at all. It really is genius.

This is how much time I have for mafia now and if I might get lynched when only 2/13 scrubs who were on bloody hf day 1 before he self voted is getting lynched for it, I have no idea how to play in the future and not get lynched when I'm actually wrong about stuff.

I can't wait to flip and then you lot go 'oh yeah, the guy who pushed motherfucking hf on day 1 for no reason was actually town. Pretty fucking obvious in hindsight'

I've not read anything except clicking vivax's filter to see if my vote was still reasonable. Just been woken up and killing some time before I doze off with some bitching, because why not. Enjoy

On June 01 2016 23:05 Palmar wrote:

pls marv's reason for thinking hf was mafia was betting on me.

So he gets credit for 1, and I for 1, and someone can take the superbia credit. Everyone else is baddie.