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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 28 2016 09:15 GMT
#1601
one more thing - palmar doesn't have to be town. he should realise and recognise that we support each other's lynches on day 1 when we both have a strong feeling about somebody and he should recognise that i did not do it in a mafia way.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 28 2016 09:20 GMT
#1602
right. If it wasn't obvious I wasn't really serious about killing marv because of the night kill.

However, his response to it has been uncharacteristic. I honestly have no idea what that means. I could see a world where marv is frustrated by being put under pressure for no good reason at all and just goes fuck it. However it would be a complete first for him that I remember as town.

I don't even know if I can draw the line from "uncharacteristic -> scum". But given how he has responded today, which was mostly very hostile, I also can't make the opposite conclusion.

Like if we assume marv is just normal marv, he must be mafia here, because he would never be this hostile, unproductive as town. I am of course speculating here, but my experience leads me to believe he would have ridiculed or ignored me and spent his time doing at least something useful, however little time that is.

In conclusion, I'm debating myself whether I should stay on lynching marv. I have absolutely 0 faith in the argument I voted him for earlier in the day (the NK one). It feels like a dick move to lynch him like this, because I mostly baited him into becoming mad. On the other hand, if I lose to a marv that doesn't play like a town marv I would be pretty furious at myself. Also, I genuinely believe what I said on day 1 about marv being tired of his meta, so technically maybe it's ok to lynch him as town this one time to open up his doors for being less productive than what we're used to.

I _think_ it's mechanically the right play to kill marv today. He hasn't given us any information and mostly just built a fort from where he calls people bad. No matter how you look at it, marv doesn't sound like town marv. But the problem is I'm not entirely sure he sounds like scum marv either.

In other news, Rels sheeping my fake and bad reasoning in the way he did looks really bad.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 28 2016 09:23 GMT
#1603
that was a long ass post saying nothing but:

[image loading]
Computer says mafia
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 28 2016 09:25 GMT
#1604
I'm not voting Marv because of your nk argument but I don't think it's bad
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 28 2016 09:43 GMT
#1605
hum i dont want to lynch marv acually. but he deserves it
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 28 2016 09:46 GMT
#1606
im voting marv and i thought your nk argument was bad. I dont think anyone thought it was good.. moving on
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
May 28 2016 09:47 GMT
#1607
also koshi looked like a pr. I was very worried I might have made him slip day 1 somewhere I forget. I kind of thought he was a powerrole personnaly and I probably would have nked him if I was mafia

+ Show Spoiler +
I am mafia
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 28 2016 09:58 GMT
#1608
On May 28 2016 18:43 sicklucker wrote:
hum i dont want to lynch marv acually. but he deserves it

My vote is yours if you are feeling another wagon.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 28 2016 09:59 GMT
#1609
On May 28 2016 18:47 sicklucker wrote:
also koshi looked like a pr. I was very worried I might have made him slip day 1 somewhere I forget. I kind of thought he was a powerrole personnaly and I probably would have nked him if I was mafia

+ Show Spoiler +
I am mafia

Oh he definitely hard softed pr. Kind of dumb for the scum team to fall for it. I thought he was vet,
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 28 2016 10:00 GMT
#1610
On May 28 2016 18:23 Palmar wrote:
that was a long ass post saying nothing but:

[image loading]

U did play really well d1 though.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 28 2016 10:04 GMT
#1611
Anyway palmar, people respect your opinion for some reason. So if you decided to pull your head out of your ass and lynch scum, we could do it.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 28 2016 10:33 GMT
#1612
On May 28 2016 18:20 Palmar wrote:
right. If it wasn't obvious I wasn't really serious about killing marv because of the night kill.

However, his response to it has been uncharacteristic. I honestly have no idea what that means. I could see a world where marv is frustrated by being put under pressure for no good reason at all and just goes fuck it. However it would be a complete first for him that I remember as town.

I don't even know if I can draw the line from "uncharacteristic -> scum". But given how he has responded today, which was mostly very hostile, I also can't make the opposite conclusion.

Like if we assume marv is just normal marv, he must be mafia here, because he would never be this hostile, unproductive as town. I am of course speculating here, but my experience leads me to believe he would have ridiculed or ignored me and spent his time doing at least something useful, however little time that is.

In conclusion, I'm debating myself whether I should stay on lynching marv. I have absolutely 0 faith in the argument I voted him for earlier in the day (the NK one). It feels like a dick move to lynch him like this, because I mostly baited him into becoming mad. On the other hand, if I lose to a marv that doesn't play like a town marv I would be pretty furious at myself. Also, I genuinely believe what I said on day 1 about marv being tired of his meta, so technically maybe it's ok to lynch him as town this one time to open up his doors for being less productive than what we're used to.

I _think_ it's mechanically the right play to kill marv today. He hasn't given us any information and mostly just built a fort from where he calls people bad. No matter how you look at it, marv doesn't sound like town marv. But the problem is I'm not entirely sure he sounds like scum marv either.

In other news, Rels sheeping my fake and bad reasoning in the way he did looks really bad.


Marv is the primary wagon right now based entirely on palmer s*** n K analysis. That alone tells you that he's not Mafia.

Palmar your argument that you want to kill marv because you are afraid to lose to him, I think that is actually the definition of a fear Lynch. I'm sorry jat I didn't realize what a fear Lynch was until I saw palmar do it.

So palmar your reasoning is that plus some shit you admit is null.

I'm going to give you one more chance to see this. It's Damdred
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 28 2016 11:13 GMT
#1613
Vivax how disconnected are you from this game?
It seems like you're really disconnected but you're acting like you're not.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 28 2016 11:46 GMT
#1614
On May 28 2016 19:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 18:20 Palmar wrote:
right. If it wasn't obvious I wasn't really serious about killing marv because of the night kill.

However, his response to it has been uncharacteristic. I honestly have no idea what that means. I could see a world where marv is frustrated by being put under pressure for no good reason at all and just goes fuck it. However it would be a complete first for him that I remember as town.

I don't even know if I can draw the line from "uncharacteristic -> scum". But given how he has responded today, which was mostly very hostile, I also can't make the opposite conclusion.

Like if we assume marv is just normal marv, he must be mafia here, because he would never be this hostile, unproductive as town. I am of course speculating here, but my experience leads me to believe he would have ridiculed or ignored me and spent his time doing at least something useful, however little time that is.

In conclusion, I'm debating myself whether I should stay on lynching marv. I have absolutely 0 faith in the argument I voted him for earlier in the day (the NK one). It feels like a dick move to lynch him like this, because I mostly baited him into becoming mad. On the other hand, if I lose to a marv that doesn't play like a town marv I would be pretty furious at myself. Also, I genuinely believe what I said on day 1 about marv being tired of his meta, so technically maybe it's ok to lynch him as town this one time to open up his doors for being less productive than what we're used to.

I _think_ it's mechanically the right play to kill marv today. He hasn't given us any information and mostly just built a fort from where he calls people bad. No matter how you look at it, marv doesn't sound like town marv. But the problem is I'm not entirely sure he sounds like scum marv either.

In other news, Rels sheeping my fake and bad reasoning in the way he did looks really bad.


Marv is the primary wagon right now based entirely on palmer s*** n K analysis. That alone tells you that he's not Mafia.

Palmar your argument that you want to kill marv because you are afraid to lose to him, I think that is actually the definition of a fear Lynch. I'm sorry jat I didn't realize what a fear Lynch was until I saw palmar do it.

So palmar your reasoning is that plus some shit you admit is null.

I'm going to give you one more chance to see this. It's Damdred


you misunderstand me in almost every possible way. I'll try to explain.

1) MY vote on marv has nothing to do with the NK stuff. I lied that it was a thing, it is not. My vote only remains there due to his reactions to it today.

2) I am not afraid of losing to marv. I've lost to him plenty of times. What I'm "afraid" of, is seeing something that is very, very clearly not townie or expected behavior from marv, and not lynching him for it because of some mechanical play on day 1 by him.

The problem is, I am not certain, but I'm never certain.

His tone and attitude today sounds way off the mark. I personally would not respond like this to being lynched for no reason as town, and I believe, knowing marv fairly well, that he would not respond like this to being lynched as town.

The reason I want to lynch him is pretty clear. His play today does not look, sound or feel like a town marv play.

The reason I'm hesitant is that he's right, he was an early supporter of my HF lynch, and also simply because I like marv and don't want to lynch him for no reason.

I'm trying to look at things objectively, and objectively what has transpired today should make marv mafia.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 28 2016 11:51 GMT
#1615
like I'm semi-tone-reading him as mafia, and tone reads are always... sort of meh. But if you held a gun to my head and asked me "who is mafia this game" I would probably give you a name list in descending order:

Most mafia

Marv
Rels
sicklucker
JAT
ritoky
Damdred
Tumblewood
Superbia
Kush
LS
Palmar

Least mafia

So I am absolutely lynching my #1 scumread. The problem is I feel like marv has maybe 55% chance of flipping mafia and Superbia 45%. It's a very close and unclear game to me. I am genuinely hoping we'll get some information through blues at some point during this game.
Computer says mafia
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 28 2016 12:04 GMT
#1616
That list is very wrong.
Red check on Damdred. And framer is dead so I think it's legit.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 28 2016 12:40 GMT
#1617
On May 28 2016 21:04 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
That list is very wrong.
Red check on Damdred. And framer is dead so I think it's legit.


This is amazing Kush just outed himself.

##unvote
##vote Kush
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 28 2016 12:43 GMT
#1618
Just woke up and just saw marv long post which didn't really say to much. Also kush just claimed cop with a red check on Damdred O_o This is very interesting it does explain why kush been going hard on Damdred all day. Hmm.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 28 2016 12:45 GMT
#1619
Nah Kush is just mafia or bad.

Hard claiming one shot jk, just got to Lynch Kush now.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 28 2016 12:46 GMT
#1620
yes it was a fake claim. need to rethink.
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