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nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 28 2016 12:47 GMT
#1621
Sorry damdred.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 28 2016 12:47 GMT
#1622
I was afraid of that happening lol.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 28 2016 12:52 GMT
#1623
And you just reside your claim. Okay this is getting interesting. I never kush go for such antics you get a scumread of his lynched before.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 28 2016 12:52 GMT
#1624
On May 28 2016 21:52 LightningStrike wrote:
And you just reside your claim. Okay this is getting interesting. I never seen kush go for such antics you get a scumread of his lynched before.

May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
May 28 2016 12:54 GMT
#1625
On May 28 2016 21:04 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
That list is very wrong.
Red check on Damdred. And framer is dead so I think it's legit.

wait when?

was there a red check on damdy?
Computer says mafia
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 28 2016 12:56 GMT
#1626
On May 28 2016 21:04 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
That list is very wrong.
Red check on Damdred. And framer is dead so I think it's legit.

Nice one. Don't you dare fakeclaim as town.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 28 2016 12:57 GMT
#1627
Day 2 Votecount

marvellosity (5): Palmar, Damdred, sicklucker, justanothertownie, Vivax, Rels
Superbia (1): Tumblewood, sicklucker
Damdred (1): nnn_thekushmountains, marvellosity
Vivax (1): marvellosity
nnn_thekushmountains (1): Damdred

Not Voting (2): LightningStrike, Superbia


Do not forget to format your votes correctly.

Day ends Saturday, May 28 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00).
You have to place your votes.

table for two on a tv tray
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 28 2016 12:57 GMT
#1628
Oh, lol.
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 28 2016 12:57 GMT
#1629
guess i shouldn't be so cocky about my reads, right?
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 28 2016 12:58 GMT
#1630
who did you jk damdred?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 28 2016 13:01 GMT
#1631
On May 28 2016 21:57 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
guess i shouldn't be so cocky about my reads, right?

Nothing wrong with being cocky. Everything wrong with fakeclaiming as town.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 28 2016 13:08 GMT
#1632
On May 28 2016 18:20 Palmar wrote:
In other news, Rels sheeping my fake and bad reasoning in the way he did looks really bad.

That is correct.
On May 28 2016 20:46 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2016 19:33 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
On May 28 2016 18:20 Palmar wrote:
right. If it wasn't obvious I wasn't really serious about killing marv because of the night kill.

However, his response to it has been uncharacteristic. I honestly have no idea what that means. I could see a world where marv is frustrated by being put under pressure for no good reason at all and just goes fuck it. However it would be a complete first for him that I remember as town.

I don't even know if I can draw the line from "uncharacteristic -> scum". But given how he has responded today, which was mostly very hostile, I also can't make the opposite conclusion.

Like if we assume marv is just normal marv, he must be mafia here, because he would never be this hostile, unproductive as town. I am of course speculating here, but my experience leads me to believe he would have ridiculed or ignored me and spent his time doing at least something useful, however little time that is.

In conclusion, I'm debating myself whether I should stay on lynching marv. I have absolutely 0 faith in the argument I voted him for earlier in the day (the NK one). It feels like a dick move to lynch him like this, because I mostly baited him into becoming mad. On the other hand, if I lose to a marv that doesn't play like a town marv I would be pretty furious at myself. Also, I genuinely believe what I said on day 1 about marv being tired of his meta, so technically maybe it's ok to lynch him as town this one time to open up his doors for being less productive than what we're used to.

I _think_ it's mechanically the right play to kill marv today. He hasn't given us any information and mostly just built a fort from where he calls people bad. No matter how you look at it, marv doesn't sound like town marv. But the problem is I'm not entirely sure he sounds like scum marv either.

In other news, Rels sheeping my fake and bad reasoning in the way he did looks really bad.


Marv is the primary wagon right now based entirely on palmer s*** n K analysis. That alone tells you that he's not Mafia.

Palmar your argument that you want to kill marv because you are afraid to lose to him, I think that is actually the definition of a fear Lynch. I'm sorry jat I didn't realize what a fear Lynch was until I saw palmar do it.

So palmar your reasoning is that plus some shit you admit is null.

I'm going to give you one more chance to see this. It's Damdred


you misunderstand me in almost every possible way. I'll try to explain.

1) MY vote on marv has nothing to do with the NK stuff. I lied that it was a thing, it is not. My vote only remains there due to his reactions to it today.

2) I am not afraid of losing to marv. I've lost to him plenty of times. What I'm "afraid" of, is seeing something that is very, very clearly not townie or expected behavior from marv, and not lynching him for it because of some mechanical play on day 1 by him.

The problem is, I am not certain, but I'm never certain.

His tone and attitude today sounds way off the mark. I personally would not respond like this to being lynched for no reason as town, and I believe, knowing marv fairly well, that he would not respond like this to being lynched as town.

The reason I want to lynch him is pretty clear. His play today does not look, sound or feel like a town marv play.

The reason I'm hesitant is that he's right, he was an early supporter of my HF lynch, and also simply because I like marv and don't want to lynch him for no reason.

I'm trying to look at things objectively, and objectively what has transpired today should make marv mafia.


That's exactly where I stand as well.

But what the hell is up with that list?
On May 28 2016 20:51 Palmar wrote:
like I'm semi-tone-reading him as mafia, and tone reads are always... sort of meh. But if you held a gun to my head and asked me "who is mafia this game" I would probably give you a name list in descending order:

Most mafia

Marv
Rels
sicklucker
JAT
ritoky
Damdred
Tumblewood
Superbia
Kush
LS
Palmar

Least mafia

So I am absolutely lynching my #1 scumread. The problem is I feel like marv has maybe 55% chance of flipping mafia and Superbia 45%. It's a very close and unclear game to me. I am genuinely hoping we'll get some information through blues at some point during this game.

Why is superbia this far down? Why Vivax? Why am I so far up when I feel like you should really be able to easily see that I am town by now. And don't justify it with the "it's close" thing. There still has to be a reason you ordered it this way.
Wtf man?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 28 2016 13:12 GMT
#1633
On May 28 2016 21:47 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
I was afraid of that happening lol.

Then why the fuck did you do it? So dumb. I would call you mafia if that wouldn't be even more stupid.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 28 2016 13:24 GMT
#1634
The problem is - like palmar said - that this does not look like town OR scum marv.

His posts look like he expects and maybe even wants to get lynched which he really shouldn't as town. He seems really frustrated if he is town and it obviously comes from the fact that he killed HF and is still getting scumread. But I don't really get how he can expect not to be scumread if he is being lynched and makes like 2 posts today. I mean I don't know what kind of job he has but it's the weekend.

On the other hand if scum marv is being lynched with a wagon this big already and with a supposed town palmar leading it I don't get why he would even feel the need to make those 2 posts at all when he could just go down silently and leave this game behind.

Like, I am nowhere near certain but if that's how he chooses to play this game then we can't really let him live...
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 28 2016 13:46 GMT
#1635
I don't think I see scum marv really coming back and giving us any information eh.

I think the invite game was a tad different the wagon wasn't insurmountable at that point, here it kind of is.

Also he is right about viavx
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 28 2016 13:53 GMT
#1636
On May 28 2016 22:46 Damdred wrote:
I don't think I see scum marv really coming back and giving us any information eh.

I think the invite game was a tad different the wagon wasn't insurmountable at that point, here it kind of is.

Also he is right about viavx

Yes, he is. Vivax did basically nothing. He didn't even feel the need to give any reads based on up to date stuff/his big posts are basically worthless.
And yet Palmar thinks he is townier than me.

?????
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 28 2016 13:54 GMT
#1637
Pointing out that vivax is scummy sadly does not make marv town though.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 28 2016 13:57 GMT
#1638
Nah but it's not like town vivax wouldn't be looking for other mafia as well at this point.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
May 28 2016 14:10 GMT
#1639
That fakeclaim was so dumb if kush is town
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
May 28 2016 14:18 GMT
#1640
On May 28 2016 23:10 Rels wrote:
That fakeclaim was so dumb if kush is town

Yes. And also if he is mafia.

So we conclude: Kush did something dumb.

Now we are all suprised.
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