• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:28
CET 07:28
KST 15:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational12SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)25Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 [Short Story] The Last GSL
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Which foreign pros are considered the best? Gypsy to Korea BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Fantasy's Q&A video
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2481 users

[M][N] H O L Y F * * * E mafia!! - Page 83

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 81 82 83 84 85 122 Next
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22157 Posts
May 28 2016 15:01 GMT
#1641
Im back.

Contrary to what kush said the NK isn't the reason marv has a majority on him, it was just the fake reason Palmar used. Only Rels sheeped that reasoning afaik, and Palmar shat on him for that (but in my opinion concluding stuff from the NK is legit play as long as it's not the only base you have).

The main reason is just the straight up unmotivated play which is his mafia meta.

If marv is town here and actually lynched scum on D1, he should be on a goddamn crusade already shitting on everyone voting for him, but he's like "meh stupids lynch Vivax". He tries to lynch me in every fucking game save a few very rare exceptions, it's like a sport for him. He knows it, so he will try to do it as either alignment. It's also pretty easy to push a replacement since you can more easily make it appear as if he isn't doing much. If you judge my play you have to judge it as if this was still D1, cause for me it is.

Having said that, I still think we lynch into super or marv today and if we didn't win we just keep going. I also advise you to simply check out their interactions. Marv's read on super is very shallow and he's keeping him in a blind spot, while super has the post that says "I dont think marv should get a pass" which is a scummy post in the context in which it was posted since marv wasn't getting a pass at all. And it also doesn't give any read on him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22157 Posts
May 28 2016 15:02 GMT
#1642
so he will try to do it as either alignment


This should read "he would do it as mafia" cause mislynching me is simply his town meta.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22157 Posts
May 28 2016 15:04 GMT
#1643
Btw Kush that was shittastic play.

And Damdred might as well tell us who he jailed, I don't know why he would keep holding on that information.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 28 2016 15:15 GMT
#1644
I'll tell before the night is over, I made a bad decision and switched off koshi but at least I know the person was not carrying kp I suppose,
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
May 28 2016 15:31 GMT
#1645
On May 29 2016 00:01 Vivax wrote:
Im back.

Contrary to what kush said the NK isn't the reason marv has a majority on him, it was just the fake reason Palmar used. Only Rels sheeped that reasoning afaik, and Palmar shat on him for that (but in my opinion concluding stuff from the NK is legit play as long as it's not the only base you have).

The main reason is just the straight up unmotivated play which is his mafia meta.

If marv is town here and actually lynched scum on D1, he should be on a goddamn crusade already shitting on everyone voting for him, but he's like "meh stupids lynch Vivax". He tries to lynch me in every fucking game save a few very rare exceptions, it's like a sport for him. He knows it, so he will try to do it as either alignment. It's also pretty easy to push a replacement since you can more easily make it appear as if he isn't doing much. If you judge my play you have to judge it as if this was still D1, cause for me it is.

Having said that, I still think we lynch into super or marv today and if we didn't win we just keep going. I also advise you to simply check out their interactions. Marv's read on super is very shallow and he's keeping him in a blind spot, while super has the post that says "I dont think marv should get a pass" which is a scummy post in the context in which it was posted since marv wasn't getting a pass at all. And it also doesn't give any read on him.

No, it's not day1 for you. You just need to read the thread and thenyou have way more information than anyone on day1 could possibly have. But you refuse and instead make some irrelevant points about early day1 stuff.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22157 Posts
May 28 2016 15:38 GMT
#1646
On May 29 2016 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2016 00:01 Vivax wrote:
Im back.

Contrary to what kush said the NK isn't the reason marv has a majority on him, it was just the fake reason Palmar used. Only Rels sheeped that reasoning afaik, and Palmar shat on him for that (but in my opinion concluding stuff from the NK is legit play as long as it's not the only base you have).

The main reason is just the straight up unmotivated play which is his mafia meta.

If marv is town here and actually lynched scum on D1, he should be on a goddamn crusade already shitting on everyone voting for him, but he's like "meh stupids lynch Vivax". He tries to lynch me in every fucking game save a few very rare exceptions, it's like a sport for him. He knows it, so he will try to do it as either alignment. It's also pretty easy to push a replacement since you can more easily make it appear as if he isn't doing much. If you judge my play you have to judge it as if this was still D1, cause for me it is.

Having said that, I still think we lynch into super or marv today and if we didn't win we just keep going. I also advise you to simply check out their interactions. Marv's read on super is very shallow and he's keeping him in a blind spot, while super has the post that says "I dont think marv should get a pass" which is a scummy post in the context in which it was posted since marv wasn't getting a pass at all. And it also doesn't give any read on him.

No, it's not day1 for you. You just need to read the thread and thenyou have way more information than anyone on day1 could possibly have. But you refuse and instead make some irrelevant points about early day1 stuff.


Will you bother commenting on the other content or will you just keep antagonizing for its own sake? It's clear that you only play this game to get a feeling of inner superiority and shit on other people. Either you go ahead and call me mafia for what you're posting, or you can be content with having me ignore everything you post. Either is fine for me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22157 Posts
May 28 2016 15:38 GMT
#1647
As long as what you spam the thread up with actually has a purpose besides inflating your e-dick/filter
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
May 28 2016 15:40 GMT
#1648
On May 29 2016 00:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2016 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 29 2016 00:01 Vivax wrote:
Im back.

Contrary to what kush said the NK isn't the reason marv has a majority on him, it was just the fake reason Palmar used. Only Rels sheeped that reasoning afaik, and Palmar shat on him for that (but in my opinion concluding stuff from the NK is legit play as long as it's not the only base you have).

The main reason is just the straight up unmotivated play which is his mafia meta.

If marv is town here and actually lynched scum on D1, he should be on a goddamn crusade already shitting on everyone voting for him, but he's like "meh stupids lynch Vivax". He tries to lynch me in every fucking game save a few very rare exceptions, it's like a sport for him. He knows it, so he will try to do it as either alignment. It's also pretty easy to push a replacement since you can more easily make it appear as if he isn't doing much. If you judge my play you have to judge it as if this was still D1, cause for me it is.

Having said that, I still think we lynch into super or marv today and if we didn't win we just keep going. I also advise you to simply check out their interactions. Marv's read on super is very shallow and he's keeping him in a blind spot, while super has the post that says "I dont think marv should get a pass" which is a scummy post in the context in which it was posted since marv wasn't getting a pass at all. And it also doesn't give any read on him.

No, it's not day1 for you. You just need to read the thread and thenyou have way more information than anyone on day1 could possibly have. But you refuse and instead make some irrelevant points about early day1 stuff.


Will you bother commenting on the other content or will you just keep antagonizing for its own sake? It's clear that you only play this game to get a feeling of inner superiority and shit on other people. Either you go ahead and call me mafia for what you're posting, or you can be content with having me ignore everything you post. Either is fine for me.

I said that it is mafia indicative multiple times already which you would know if you had read the thread. You have no other content besides the stuff on marv that's not alignment indicative.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22157 Posts
May 28 2016 15:54 GMT
#1649
On May 29 2016 00:40 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2016 00:38 Vivax wrote:
On May 29 2016 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 29 2016 00:01 Vivax wrote:
Im back.

Contrary to what kush said the NK isn't the reason marv has a majority on him, it was just the fake reason Palmar used. Only Rels sheeped that reasoning afaik, and Palmar shat on him for that (but in my opinion concluding stuff from the NK is legit play as long as it's not the only base you have).

The main reason is just the straight up unmotivated play which is his mafia meta.

If marv is town here and actually lynched scum on D1, he should be on a goddamn crusade already shitting on everyone voting for him, but he's like "meh stupids lynch Vivax". He tries to lynch me in every fucking game save a few very rare exceptions, it's like a sport for him. He knows it, so he will try to do it as either alignment. It's also pretty easy to push a replacement since you can more easily make it appear as if he isn't doing much. If you judge my play you have to judge it as if this was still D1, cause for me it is.

Having said that, I still think we lynch into super or marv today and if we didn't win we just keep going. I also advise you to simply check out their interactions. Marv's read on super is very shallow and he's keeping him in a blind spot, while super has the post that says "I dont think marv should get a pass" which is a scummy post in the context in which it was posted since marv wasn't getting a pass at all. And it also doesn't give any read on him.

No, it's not day1 for you. You just need to read the thread and thenyou have way more information than anyone on day1 could possibly have. But you refuse and instead make some irrelevant points about early day1 stuff.


Will you bother commenting on the other content or will you just keep antagonizing for its own sake? It's clear that you only play this game to get a feeling of inner superiority and shit on other people. Either you go ahead and call me mafia for what you're posting, or you can be content with having me ignore everything you post. Either is fine for me.

I said that it is mafia indicative multiple times already which you would know if you had read the thread. You have no other content besides the stuff on marv that's not alignment indicative.


I am aware you said that "I have done it as mafia before" (this was the formulation).
I am also aware that you don't bother to even acknowledge that I'm talking about more recent stuff than that for a while already just to keep pushing that point. My marv, superbia, TW also takes into account more recent posts, which btw you never even compare to your own read on them.The most constructive thing youve done this game besides looking townie is saying "you are correct". Damn if you're like this irl I feel bad for whoever your work colleagues are.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22157 Posts
May 28 2016 15:58 GMT
#1650
Damdred do you have a TR on kush now?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
May 28 2016 16:23 GMT
#1651
On May 28 2016 20:51 Palmar wrote:
like I'm semi-tone-reading him as mafia, and tone reads are always... sort of meh. But if you held a gun to my head and asked me "who is mafia this game" I would probably give you a name list in descending order:

Most mafia

Marv
Rels
sicklucker
JAT
ritoky
Damdred
Tumblewood
Superbia
Kush
LS
Palmar

Least mafia

So I am absolutely lynching my #1 scumread. The problem is I feel like marv has maybe 55% chance of flipping mafia and Superbia 45%. It's a very close and unclear game to me. I am genuinely hoping we'll get some information through blues at some point during this game.

If Superbia has a 45% chance to flip town why is he fourth least mafia?
good times for all
nnn_thekushmountains
Profile Joined February 2016
1501 Posts
May 28 2016 16:31 GMT
#1652
##unvote
## vote rels
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22157 Posts
May 28 2016 16:36 GMT
#1653
On May 29 2016 01:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
##unvote
## vote rels


What happened to your ls scumread?
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
May 28 2016 16:42 GMT
#1654
On May 29 2016 01:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2016 01:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
##unvote
## vote rels


What happened to your ls scumread?

I like to think it was my overpowering influence.
good times for all
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 28 2016 16:57 GMT
#1655
Tbh I think kush is probably town maybe. The play doesn't make sense sacking himself after I flip.

If marv flips scum (which I'm 40/60 on) then I think kush deserves more attention.

Today not really and his ls read u think was dependent on me being scum.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
May 28 2016 17:01 GMT
#1656
I don't think the fake claim was as risky as you're acting like it was.
good times for all
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
May 28 2016 17:05 GMT
#1657
On May 29 2016 00:54 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2016 00:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 29 2016 00:38 Vivax wrote:
On May 29 2016 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 29 2016 00:01 Vivax wrote:
Im back.

Contrary to what kush said the NK isn't the reason marv has a majority on him, it was just the fake reason Palmar used. Only Rels sheeped that reasoning afaik, and Palmar shat on him for that (but in my opinion concluding stuff from the NK is legit play as long as it's not the only base you have).

The main reason is just the straight up unmotivated play which is his mafia meta.

If marv is town here and actually lynched scum on D1, he should be on a goddamn crusade already shitting on everyone voting for him, but he's like "meh stupids lynch Vivax". He tries to lynch me in every fucking game save a few very rare exceptions, it's like a sport for him. He knows it, so he will try to do it as either alignment. It's also pretty easy to push a replacement since you can more easily make it appear as if he isn't doing much. If you judge my play you have to judge it as if this was still D1, cause for me it is.

Having said that, I still think we lynch into super or marv today and if we didn't win we just keep going. I also advise you to simply check out their interactions. Marv's read on super is very shallow and he's keeping him in a blind spot, while super has the post that says "I dont think marv should get a pass" which is a scummy post in the context in which it was posted since marv wasn't getting a pass at all. And it also doesn't give any read on him.

No, it's not day1 for you. You just need to read the thread and thenyou have way more information than anyone on day1 could possibly have. But you refuse and instead make some irrelevant points about early day1 stuff.


Will you bother commenting on the other content or will you just keep antagonizing for its own sake? It's clear that you only play this game to get a feeling of inner superiority and shit on other people. Either you go ahead and call me mafia for what you're posting, or you can be content with having me ignore everything you post. Either is fine for me.

I said that it is mafia indicative multiple times already which you would know if you had read the thread. You have no other content besides the stuff on marv that's not alignment indicative.


I am aware you said that "I have done it as mafia before" (this was the formulation).
I am also aware that you don't bother to even acknowledge that I'm talking about more recent stuff than that for a while already just to keep pushing that point. My marv, superbia, TW also takes into account more recent posts, which btw you never even compare to your own read on them.The most constructive thing youve done this game besides looking townie is saying "you are correct". Damn if you're like this irl I feel bad for whoever your work colleagues are.

I always love it when people try to take a moral highground while at the same time trying to insult someone on a personal rather than a play related level (I guarantee you can't make any conclusion about my personality based on how I play mafia). Makes you look really likable.

This attitude is not productive and looks like you just try to get me to shit up the thread more with you. Which I won't. I won't give you another avenue of pretending to be active without actually posting relevant things.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
May 28 2016 17:06 GMT
#1658
On May 29 2016 01:31 nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
##unvote
## vote rels

This would be the time to explain why he is mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22157 Posts
May 28 2016 17:18 GMT
#1659
On May 29 2016 02:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2016 00:54 Vivax wrote:
On May 29 2016 00:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 29 2016 00:38 Vivax wrote:
On May 29 2016 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 29 2016 00:01 Vivax wrote:
Im back.

Contrary to what kush said the NK isn't the reason marv has a majority on him, it was just the fake reason Palmar used. Only Rels sheeped that reasoning afaik, and Palmar shat on him for that (but in my opinion concluding stuff from the NK is legit play as long as it's not the only base you have).

The main reason is just the straight up unmotivated play which is his mafia meta.

If marv is town here and actually lynched scum on D1, he should be on a goddamn crusade already shitting on everyone voting for him, but he's like "meh stupids lynch Vivax". He tries to lynch me in every fucking game save a few very rare exceptions, it's like a sport for him. He knows it, so he will try to do it as either alignment. It's also pretty easy to push a replacement since you can more easily make it appear as if he isn't doing much. If you judge my play you have to judge it as if this was still D1, cause for me it is.

Having said that, I still think we lynch into super or marv today and if we didn't win we just keep going. I also advise you to simply check out their interactions. Marv's read on super is very shallow and he's keeping him in a blind spot, while super has the post that says "I dont think marv should get a pass" which is a scummy post in the context in which it was posted since marv wasn't getting a pass at all. And it also doesn't give any read on him.

No, it's not day1 for you. You just need to read the thread and thenyou have way more information than anyone on day1 could possibly have. But you refuse and instead make some irrelevant points about early day1 stuff.


Will you bother commenting on the other content or will you just keep antagonizing for its own sake? It's clear that you only play this game to get a feeling of inner superiority and shit on other people. Either you go ahead and call me mafia for what you're posting, or you can be content with having me ignore everything you post. Either is fine for me.

I said that it is mafia indicative multiple times already which you would know if you had read the thread. You have no other content besides the stuff on marv that's not alignment indicative.


I am aware you said that "I have done it as mafia before" (this was the formulation).
I am also aware that you don't bother to even acknowledge that I'm talking about more recent stuff than that for a while already just to keep pushing that point. My marv, superbia, TW also takes into account more recent posts, which btw you never even compare to your own read on them.The most constructive thing youve done this game besides looking townie is saying "you are correct". Damn if you're like this irl I feel bad for whoever your work colleagues are.

I always love it when people try to take a moral highground while at the same time trying to insult someone on a personal rather than a play related level (I guarantee you can't make any conclusion about my personality based on how I play mafia). Makes you look really likable.

This attitude is not productive and looks like you just try to get me to shit up the thread more with you. Which I won't. I won't give you another avenue of pretending to be active without actually posting relevant things.


Well at least you admit you shit up the thread even when I'm not talking about or to you at all.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 28 2016 17:25 GMT
#1660
Eh dammit kinda want to tr vivax for being a dick to jat
Prev 1 81 82 83 84 85 122 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
Rongyi Cup S3 - Group D
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 145
StarCraft: Brood War
PianO 199
actioN 154
ggaemo 149
Shuttle 76
ZergMaN 40
Hm[arnc] 36
yabsab 33
GoRush 22
910 15
Icarus 11
[ Show more ]
Nal_rA 10
Bale 7
Dota 2
febbydoto61
League of Legends
JimRising 794
C9.Mang0294
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King160
Other Games
summit1g11865
WinterStarcraft517
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1157
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 41
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1179
Other Games
• Shiphtur356
Upcoming Events
RongYI Cup
4h 32m
herO vs ShoWTimE
Solar vs Classic
Wardi Open
7h 32m
Monday Night Weeklies
10h 32m
OSC
17h 32m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
RongYI Cup
1d 4h
Clem vs TriGGeR
Maru vs Creator
WardiTV Invitational
1d 7h
Replay Cast
2 days
RongYI Cup
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
3 days
HomeStory Cup
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
HomeStory Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
HomeStory Cup
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.