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On May 28 2016 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: What, people? /sitout, MSPaint game seems like not happening anyways. Yea this... So /in to help get this rolling. Also had some time free up so... lets do this! | ||
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On June 04 2016 05:19 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: PREGAME READS 7)Ticktock - not sure what the difference between this guy and tumblewood is. both names start with t and both play low to moderate activity. Wow, doesn't even have a real pre-game read on me... Has to reference Tumble just to have some content. Clearly mafia. ##Vote nnn_shwagmountains | ||
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Unusual use of emoticons from Moosy, so probs mafia. 2 down 1 to go. | ||
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Gunna go play a little more overwatch and see if anyone is around a bit later, but I prob picked a bad time to be active. Not spoiling my reads till tomorrow. | ||
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On June 04 2016 15:32 QuickTwist wrote: You have no town cred. You should give reads. So? | ||
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On June 04 2016 15:32 Jealous wrote: Why not? You should share what you have so that people who come into the thread while you sleep have something to work off of and discuss, no? Kus my reads are my precious babies, and they are not ready to be crushed by a cruel harsh world. And I prob wont be sleeping for a good bit yet. | ||
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Seems more interesting than me just spouting exposition. | ||
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Thats cool, got a fair bit of ancestry from Russia on my dad's side. ... also a bit of a rare breed on the mafia forums (fairly UK and US dominated) | ||
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On June 04 2016 16:03 QuickTwist wrote: So why shouldn't we just lynch you for claiming you have already solved the game 1/3 of the way through day 1? It is IMO that Town have to pick who they would NOT lynch day 1 rather than just the scummiest players. I will not lynch a town read, but at the same time, I will settle on lynches that are not doing anything for town. You have not shown at all that you are town. you come in here and say "guys, I have the game solved, but I'm not going to tell until day 2" For what reason will you not share your reads until day 2? For funzies? Well you should lynch me for that if you think that is the sort of thing that scum would do. Is that what you think? I said tomorrow as in RL day, not a full phase from now. | ||
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On June 04 2016 16:07 QuickTwist wrote: OK, i will ask you some questions Tictock. If you could share your thought process for why you have 2 strong scum reads this early into day one, could you do that? Yes I could. Though you were correct about an earlier assumption about my reads, so that will probably tarnish the answer you are hoping for here. | ||
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On June 04 2016 16:19 Tumblewood wrote: inb4 someone yells at me for saying stuff and leaving immediately WHAT YOUR LEAVING?!? | ||
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I've got a few strong scum reads, but not the ones I made pretty obv joke posts about. | ||
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Lol. This response when you are currently pressuring me for reads ^.^ | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:53 blkcoffee wrote: If it's alright with you I'm not going to read any of those games. I'm curious what you think of quick town reading you so early and his subsequent town reads. For quicktwist. Can you explain how you came to a serious vote on super. What changed? Easiest read yet. | ||
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On June 04 2016 09:04 Tumblewood wrote: have you heard of "WIFOM"? it stands for "wine in front of me", in reference to some scene from The Princess Bride. this is what it means and WIFOM is about the most I'd say about superbia's early-early-early-D1 play. Most disappointing post of the game so far... I can't believe you don't know that scene from Princess Bride... | ||
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This is a terrible post to townread someone by, but I def want to keep you around now. | ||
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partially kus I've changed my mind about a couple of people, and partially kus I prefer to have seen posts from everyone I'll be at a party a large chunk of the evening tomorrow, but should be around plenty going into EoD. | ||
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Gunna stuff my face and get some caffeine in my system then talk about some stuff. | ||
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Generally I find this to be an unreliable metric. There is some correlation, but it depends pretty heavily on the player in question. Scum can be tryhard and post a ton and town can loose interest or get busy and post very little. My point? Plynches based on activity tend to be coin flippy and giving someone a townread kus they are active and posting is weak at best. It's generally better practice to try and look at the reasons and modivations behind when and why people are posting rather than try and use filter length as a metic. There are some exceptions such as scum-burn out, but even then activity alone is usually not your only indicator. So the reads I've seen so far like "This dude made a hello post then left! Lynch the scum!" or "Well he's posting a lot so I think he's town" are pretty piss poor imo. | ||
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Super - Jumped right in and has been really focused on interacting with people to develop reads. I've also found our thoughts on a large number of things have been in line. Probably never lynching. Tumble - Dropping his thoughts when he feels like it, largely a meta read+ Show Spoiler + For you newbies, this means his playstyle is in line with what I've seen from him in previous games. Another hit and miss method of making reads Moosy - I'm not sure how to explain this read, but I'm decently solid on it for D1. blkcoffee - has the right combination of not really giving a fuck and getting excited about something There's a couple more town leans floating around but I'm gunna leave my town list at that for now. | ||
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QT - There is just too many inconsistencies in his play for me to overlook. He pushed Super early for "trying to look town" + Show Spoiler + which is a terrible reason to scumread anyone, especially when that doesn't reall describe Super's play at all imo not openly giving my reads Sorry no time for examples Emperorchampion - I liked his open, but the rest of his posts fall flat and he quickly dropped the attitude he started with. The way he spent a lot of effort filterdiving QT + Show Spoiler + filters so early in the game? Thats it for now, I may get a chance to post later tonight, but likely won't be around till tomorrow. ##Vote: QuickTwist | ||
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On June 05 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote: @tumble what makes you wanna plynch sqrt instead of fecalfeast who is yet to post a word since daypost. On June 05 2016 04:28 Fecalfeast wrote: Got drunk and forgot. Give me a bit i have 390 posts to read Just taking note of who summoned FF to the game. | ||
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I might skim over the game again then since there isn't much new to read, and nothing in the past few pages has really swayed my opinion. I'm trying to decide how I feel about Scott's slot. Was sorta thinking the way the replacement happened could mean scott's is town, but thats pretty WIFOM and I'm mostly just grasping at straws. Sqrt's opening game posts just felt chatty and not really AI (alignment indicative) but show that he was around and ready to play the first hour of the game. Scott's posts leave a little to be desired... and I'm not sure why he seems so concerned I don't have Jealous as a hard town read. + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2016 08:34 scott31337 wrote: hmmm no mention of Jealous here, and so far Jealous is my only townread hmmm Which sure I haven't given any thoughts on Jealous besides On June 04 2016 17:01 Tictock wrote: This is a terrible post to townread someone by, but I def want to keep you around now. I'm reserving my right to hold off giving a real read on him kus a few things have raised an eyebrow but I'm overall liking his posts. Honestly scott just seems like a coinflip atm and I'm not feeling inclined to lynch him. I'd like to know why people are keen to lynch him/his slot but nobody seems to be considering FF who arguably has done just as little. | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote: So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts. Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean. Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses. Super is most scummy so far. I'm really not a fan of this opening because he's useing a one line rule to throw out very unfounded reads. There is also no indication that he is actually trying to apply the rule he's using here. "Town likes clarity" into "sounds towny" or "keeps things clean". I really have a hard time understanding why Super would have been the most scummy based on the criteria of contentless posts as well. This also bugged me Really odd dodgy answer after he very clearly gave QT a townread in his open (or at least a lean). I also find it pretty interesting how he refines his read of QT but his read on Super remains static. On June 04 2016 09:37 Skynx wrote: Yeah i changed my mind now. QT and Superbia was just spamming and me tunnel visioning one of them didn't help. Newbie mistake. They both sound scummy. Since I'm finding QT fairly scummy myself I tend to agree with Skynx's little case on him, but I'm also aware that a fair few of his points were just parroting what had been mentioned already. I might be pretty fine with lynching Skynx today. Disclaimer: This post was written over a much longer period of time than it should have. There has been a random bit of roommate drama over that past hour so I've been a little distracted while trying to put my thoughts together. I'm gunna take a bit to resolve things then I'll do my little skim-over/catch-up and see how things feel as we are getting into EoD here. | ||
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On June 06 2016 01:02 QuickTwist wrote: Just Where the fuck are these reads coming from anyways? At least I gave you a little one sentence summary of why I TR these people. On June 06 2016 00:00 QuickTwist wrote: OK I reread the thread, here are my reads: Skynx and Ticktock are far and away my strongest scum reads and I really want one of them to get lynched today. I would be OK with a scott lynch. The Town AF people are: Emperorchampion blkcoffee beentheredonethat Tumblewood These are the people I will not be voting all game. And FYI my first 3-4 posts were very much so not serious and just poking for reactions. You seemed to understand this earlier. Part of my own read on you was because you made that post then jumped onboard when someone gave you some reasoning for it to be scummy. | ||
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On June 06 2016 04:53 Superbia wrote: I dislike that everyone was scumreading quicky that quickly (lolol), but I also don't like how quicky has been playing. Tbh, I have looked up a game of quicky on another site (town game), and quickly looked through it on Friday. He struck me as a decently clever town player. I'm kind of missing that feeling here. He feels very defensive and uncomfortable. But I'm pussying out and voting kush. I kinda agree, the general flow of the game and how the votes are going seem to signal a very low key scum team that is probably not up for lynch atm. QT is also giving me vibes that he's not really to concerned with the pressure atm which isn't really in line with a try-hard scum playing the activity game. I'm wondering if he's a player more like Moosy who's play can be pretty questionable and is lynchbait. While he's kinda all over the place and I have a hard time tracking much line of thought he is being pretty consistent about putting stuff out there. Is your desire to lynch kush based on meta, or is it more policy due to him being pretty lackluster and only pushing a plynch himself? I think I might be more keen on lynching Skynx myself. | ||
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On June 06 2016 05:12 Superbia wrote: Skynx has been meh iirc. But newbies are generally somewhat harder to read. Kush hasn't really picked a direction and his pregame and ingame are off. Pregame he seemed very excited but ingame he hasn't been pro-active except for a shitty plynch push on scott which ended up being nothing. Ah yea, it is true the disparity in his pre-game to in-game is real. I thought he mostly plays from work so was kinda giving his low activity on the weekend a pass. | ||
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It's just... if you are VT and decided to open the game by claiming Blue (having a PR) then I can only assume you did so to create some discussion and in a very off chance draw mafia KP. If it looks like you are getting lynched then I'm not sure why you would change your plans there and claim VT instead. Like if I were in your shoes I'd go full fake claim to try and get the wagon off me and draw mafia KP tonight. Chance you get lynched anyways but hey you are only VT, and if you convince people you are blue you have a good chance at drawing KP. Sure you are setting yourself up to die one way or another, but if you wanted to play the long game you probably don't open with a fake claim to be a PR. So claiming VT now as an "hey don't lynch me I'm just town and not important" doesn't really make sense. It seems more like a play for survival especially since you literally said, On June 06 2016 05:05 QuickTwist wrote: OMG you are so wrong its not even funny. VT stands for vanilla townie. You are lynching the most worthless role there is in this game based on confirmation bias. People should take a really good look at you tomorrow. Which just says to me "Hey don't hurt me, I'm not important" | ||
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On June 06 2016 05:34 emperorchampion wrote: I don't think too much has been said in the last few pages to sway my opinion on voting QT. What I'm thinking is that if QT is town, tumble is probably town and jealous is maf. And if QT if maf, tumble is probably maf, jealous is town. kush is a bit of a toss up, his filter is pretty empty but maybe he has an excuse? The plynch seems a little off to me. Why would QT being mafia make you think Tumble is mafia with him? | ||
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On June 06 2016 05:42 QuickTwist wrote: Fantastic logic. One problem though. What happens when we lynch a different townie today and then people find out my claim is bogus so I get lynched anyways? I rather have 1 town die than two, its that simple. Why are you assuming we'd lynch a townie if we don't lynch you? | ||
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On June 06 2016 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: tumble pressured QuickTwist a ton but ended up saying a policy lynch was better. I thought it was a bit suspicious too but i think kush would be more likely Mafia than Tumble if QuickTwist flips Mafia. Yea ok, I can see that. And yea Kush might be a fine lynch as well. Honestly though I'm just not sure if I really care who gets lynched between QT, Kush, Skynx, and emp atm. Lots of people not really giving out good town vibes is making this a bit of a toss up lynch. | ||
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On June 06 2016 06:44 MoosyDoosy wrote: i'm giving out all the fluffy wovey dovey town vibes. :D which is strange for me. O.O does that mean I'm scum? o/ Does it? I kinda got more of a sense of a low-key version of the town play I recall from you. Though if it makes you feel better you are my weakest townread due to it being such a long time since I've played with you or seen your play. | ||
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I made a post about it before, but when I go back to look at what I was talking about I'm realizing I messed up and got some posts confused. For some reason I thought emp had posted this: On June 04 2016 19:09 beentheredonethat wrote: Also, following up on Tumblewood's post about QT and Jealous: if I simply follow the reads that I did so far without looking at Jealous' filter (which I haven't done yet), my logical conclusion should be that Jealous is scum. Here is my thought process about that: 1. I townread Tumblewood. 2. Tumblewood thinks that between QT and Jealous, one is scum. 3. I townread QT. That makes Jealous scum (only if Tumblewood's thought is correct which, of course, is not granted). I am going to look at Jealous more detailed. Which is just an out there post that seems like a weird way to conclude you should look more closely at someone. Checking over the rest on BtDt's filter I think we should just pretend I put his name on that list instead. Kus I'm mostly just seeing a push on Moosy and a large opener that rambles about like 5 different people. | ||
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On June 06 2016 07:01 QuickTwist wrote: Who is assuming anything here? I said what happens when, not if we don't lynch me we lynch a townie. Well if you are town, and we move off you then 3/9 chance that who we move to is scum. Hopefully with all your flailing and reaction testing you have a pretty decent idea who is scum and can help move town onto a good lynch given your perspective. I don't really see you doing that, you're read on Jealous is pretty obviously just OMGUS + Show Spoiler + Oh My God You Suck So... yea I'm having a hard time seeing why we shouldn't just go ahead and lynch you QT. | ||
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Hopefully it's just temporary, if somethings wrong I might be missing EoD. I'm partially tempted to stir the pot and suggest we shennanie here though, right now this only feels like a mafia lynch if the team is something like QT/Kush/ +1 (some afk or low impact player). Though tbh I kinda get the feeling the mafia team is pretty low impact this game anyways, though maybe kus we are just on the wrong track and they don't give a shit atm? | ||
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I'm ready. | ||
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##Vote: beentheredonethat | ||
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On June 06 2016 07:56 Tumblewood wrote: BTDT is a bad target Why? | ||
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On June 06 2016 07:57 Skynx wrote: How is no one mentioning blackcoffee? Oh hello there. | ||
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Bleh, no was just waited far to long to pull the trigger. | ||
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On June 06 2016 08:10 Jealous wrote: That seems so dumb though. Why construct a false impression of your vote? That's just as misleading as posting a fake vote in this thread while voting for another in the vote thread, as QT did. Eh it was pretty dumb here given the activity of the game, but it was definitely a vote that felt like it needed some rocking. | ||
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On June 06 2016 08:22 Fecalfeast wrote: So who didn't shenannie, and why is a good plce to start Who piled on, and why is probably better. Or who dropped off after piling on. | ||
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On June 07 2016 06:01 Tumblewood wrote: scumlist v2.0 everyone whose name starts with s I might be ok with that if we lynch in this order Skynx Scott Someone Else Someone Else ... Super Though if you are really feeling like there is some similarity between his last scum game and this game then you are free to make that comparison for us. | ||
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Scott's claim to not have gotten his role PM bugs me just a little kus I know sqrt was posting in the first hour of the game (so pretty sure he got his role, don't think a newbie would start posting without getting that). There was also a pretty large gap from when scott joined the game till when he made that post. Maybe I'm overthinking it but it feels weird, and I think Scott needs to step it up one way or another. | ||
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BtDt still bugs me. His posts feel over constructed but glacing over his reads I don't hate them. Scummier side of null. Glacing over Emp's filter I'm not exactly sure how he came to vote QT. Seems like he had QT as a townread, started thinking about a QT/Tumble team but concluded Jealous was the more likely scum. Then reconsidering those 3 again ends up voting QT. Oh the other hand I kinda like how he responded to Super regarding his scumread on him. We'll leave it at null for now. | ||
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On June 08 2016 02:20 Superbia wrote: TT's "so many people are prob lurking =/" at 5m to eod was scummy. Again, need to have some 1on1 time w/ him. He's a good town player. Whats scummy about it? Skynx poped up as soon as Tumble and I suggested shennanies onto him and just to suggest people talk about the dude who was obv afk and now getting replaced. Thought there was probably more lurking. | ||
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Of the people voting QT I thought Skynx, Emp, and to a lesser extent Moosy were the weakest votes on him. Skynx stood out to me because he initially read QT as town but then got pressured a little for that read and ended up swapping his read and made that case on QT. Case felt somewhat contrived (especially when it wasn't his initial thinking on QT and idk why you case someone like that when other people were clearly of similar opinions). BtDt has made a couple of big posts but he focused pretty hard on Moosy without trying to convince anyone of his read or anything and I think he's on Scott now too which just seems like picking out easy/low impact targets to me. Emp and Kush both have some townie posts but the focus feels a little off. With Kush I get this sense of his town game but much more reserved. Like he's saying what he thinks, but not doing so in a way that pushes the game forward. | ||
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On June 08 2016 03:06 emperorchampion wrote: Some thoughts on scum teams: -super, skynx, kush --> out unless crazy bus on kush -TT, Fecal, scott --> shenanananaigan duo + scott + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2016 07:17 scott31337 wrote: Hmmmmmm Or is that scums plan? wifomwifomwifom On June 07 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote: Allright, I got some time to look over things - 1) Emperorchampion - this guy seems like newb town with some of his responses - 2) Skynx -He made a "case" on Quicktwist, which I am unsure new mafia would do - most are scared to stick out lilke that - but then also his last post is "Strategic lurking" so.... Not a bad fan at the moment. 5) blkcoffee - null not enough info - one page of filter 6) Jealous - Aggressive, shares his info and thoughts - townlean Venturing Vets 1) beentheredonethat - He shows his thoughts and posts, not all one-liners, townlean 2) Tumblewood - My gut instinct says hes town, i've read multiple games of his and this shows more of a town agenda - wants me dead though 3) MooooooosyDooooosy - He trolls a lot with either alignment, more as town though - and it's been a lot of trolling - 4) nnn_thekushmountians - he points out my posts, but I don't see a whole lot else from the guy. 5) Superbia - looks to be trying to figure out the game - townlean for now 6) FecalFeast -town chilled FF 7)Ticktock - This guy has quite a lot of opposite reads than I do, which makes me wonder - him and me in that milo game will always be on my mind  I think I have too many "townies" - I'd have to go with scumteam of TT, Moosy, and Blkcoffee for now with maybe a bit of Tumble - I think Tumble should be the one I completely re-read. I think these almost fit tooo well. It seems like he has spent a lot of time reading all filters, but has barely posted? Plus I find his scum read on TT pretty weak. - Moosy, kush, jealous + Show Spoiler + I think that moosy is likely town. However, reassessing as scumteam makes these posts very interesting (in no particular order): + Show Spoiler + On June 07 2016 23:51 MoosyDoosy wrote: He's not town beyond doubt. The biggest problem here is that you never showed you had a scum read on Jealous in the first place. Why the sudden flip? On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote: I absolutely did not take every opportunity. Did you read the game? Mayhaps you'd like to take a look through my filter.What I did say is that both QT and Jealous were acting like idiots but out of the two, QT would have to be the Mafia. Looking at Jealous's behavior and his newbie slip at the start of D2, it looks like it's safe to assume he's town and put away the Jealous/kush tinfoil team. Just because I have a read on someone now doesn't mean I had it on them the whole game. Now would you care to actually read the game? On June 08 2016 00:06 MoosyDoosy wrote: Yes, Jealous can be scum in multiple tinfoil situations and you can be unproductive by squabbling about it. Or you can actually focus on finding real scum than thinking of tinfoil situations. On June 08 2016 00:08 MoosyDoosy wrote: And no, your filter doesn't really show any sign of reading Jealous as scum. Instead, it seems more like you tacitly accept him as town than scum. So again. Why the sudden flip? - I think that kush kind of fits in here, but he could be replaceable by most i think. aaaaaaand I have to actually do some work for now... Where are these teams coming from? This seems like you drew names out of a hat then went to think about if they made sense as a team. | ||
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On June 06 2016 13:05 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Sorry ff isn't scummy. Hmmm this dude skanks tho... Seems really unatural how hedges his read at the end when he acted so sure for the rest of the post. + Show Spoiler + On June 04 2016 20:53 Skynx wrote: Good morning people! Not having much else to do I actually went through 3 pages of solid spam. I then also went to read QT filter: 1: Contentless town reads Including this one he made some town reads based on absolutely nothing, First 3 were kinda trying to get the game going but they don't benefit town as if you don't have some case on why someone is town why just claim them town, you're just promoting confusion. 2: Memes & one liners + Show Spoiler + 3: Ignoring valid posts that are making sense So tumble posted this about the spam His response: As town, why would you wanna lynch someone is trying to make sense, if you're serious that is. 4: Diverting attention by linking old stuff These are where he understands he's not making a lot of sense so lets bring up old arguments and create some diversion. Super wasn't serious and you should've read the guide already, these are irrelevant to the discussion where people actually started to scumread him. Please enlighten me if you think he has made 1 usefull/towny post. Even if you think he might be town, these constant flow of useless posts are last thing we need and lynching him would benefit town more than plynching an afk for now, i don't think he will make positive contributions later on. ##Vote: QuickTwist It's odd given that his "Shit list" at night was On June 06 2016 12:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Shitlist Ec Tt Tw Ff and he seems pretty there's scum between me and emp So screw it, kush seems like a good vote. | ||
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If kush is in fact mafia I'm kinda thinking of a team like Kush/Moosy/Jealous | ||
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On June 08 2016 03:58 Superbia wrote: What's your thought process behind that team? Kush semi defended Moosy from BtDt and has pretty much ignored Jealous while having suspicions on Tumble for no reason. Similarly I get the sense that Jealous has ignored Kush and Moosy. It's pretty shit but it kinda fit. This also just from what I recall, I didn't bother to fact check or check filters. | ||
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On June 08 2016 04:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:  just thought it was slightly ironic so I wanted to point it outSo you don't wanna answer my question? I just explained where I got my 3 names from. It's a shitty pre-flip associative based team. | ||
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On June 08 2016 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote: he listed me, kush, jealous as a team and you said his post was shitty. Then you gave the exact same team. Nice!I didn't call his post bad, I asked where he was getting his teams from kus they seemed pretty random. | ||
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On June 08 2016 05:24 Superbia wrote: Where is kush. TT who are never mafia for you? I'd kinda like to get back to you on this. But gut feeling? Super FF Scott and probably... Emp Blkcoffee | ||
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On June 08 2016 05:42 Superbia wrote: He's probably going to get replaced or modkilled. I think we shouldn't give his slot a pass if he gets replaced. Agreed? Sure, but until then there doesn't seem to be much point discussing an inactive slot. Besides I stand by my town lean based on the few posts blkcoffee did manage to make. | ||
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and why I did the same thing but was just a null read + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2016 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote: Given that Fecalfeast tried to initiate shenanigans makes me townread him. Since QT flipped town, there was absolutely no need for scum to try shenanigans. There were no other wagon on its way, so the mislynch must have been safe. It is interesting to note that I ended up with two votes, due to the attempted shenanigans. I'm wondering why, I don't think I appear too scummy and I think I should definitely be part of any town circle that there is. I am easily readable, I try to establish my thought processes, and I kept my vote on MoosyDoosy: noone confirmed the meta/"is he able to emulate his town meta" question yet (besides himself). Also, his vote made the difference: shenanigans could've worked if he wouldn't have been the 5th guy to vote QT. As a further note, Tumblewood still feels very townie to me. So I'll form my own town circle containing Superbia, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jealous and myself (I have to review Superbia though, I don't remember much from the end of D1 that I really liked. Still town pile, though). Following that pattern, we could easily have all three scum players on QuickTwist. Removing Jealous as my town read, it comes down to: Skynx, emperorchampion, scott31337, MoosyDoosy Of those four players, scott had two votes cast on him, temporarily three due to the QT vote. That might have triggered MoosyDoosy to finalize the wagon of QT. What do you think about scott and MoosyDoosy, guys? I feel like I might have found a connection here. While it's not enough for a lynch IMHO, it should be enough to justify a potential power role action. One should examine those guys at night very closely. I think it's too early to completely go by process of elimination - but I strongly suggest to not lynch outside of those players as the chance of having one or more scummers among those four bolded lads is very high. My nulls (i.e. todos) are thekushmountains and Tictock. I still want to keep my vote on Kush though kus he doesn't seem like he cares and I remember town Kush giving a shit. | ||
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also... I feel like 3/4 of the game has barely posted or even voted. This needs to change. After missing the mark fairly badly D1 we need to pick this game up. | ||
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On June 08 2016 16:01 Jealous wrote: I'm still not sure. I was going to see how the other votes and reads pan out as we approach the deadline, because apparently a lot of stuff happens then. This game has been confusing in general - Skynx has had the strongest scumread bandwagon, whereas kush has had the strongest lynch vote bandwagon, simply wtf? I like how you said "who do you think we should lynch today" as if I actually am town leader. I probably have less of a clue about what is going on than any of you. Based on what my vague retrospect ("gut") without going in-depth on any filters today, I would say that EC, BTDT, kush are all viable options, in decreasing order, with Scott being a potential mystery factor because so far none of his posts have struck me as very scummy but he also hasn't posted much so I can't say for certain. This has nothing to do with being a leader or not, it's a valid question regardless. Still without looking at filters... Why EC first? Or why is he most scummy? | ||
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I've prepared a few questions for everyone, they might be a little strange but if you could humor me. This is for science. 1) Emperorchampion - How difficult is this game for you? Is it easier or harder than you expected? Is there anybody who has a style of play that you admire or enjoy? 2) Skynx - Assume you got Vig shot right this moment (eliminated from the game)... What is the first thing you would do? Both Kush and me flip scum, how might you start looking for the last scum? 4) Scott31337 - What do you like to do to develop reads? What is your opinion of the current atmosphere of the game? Disregarding low activity, who is your weakest read? 5) blkcoffee - 6) Jealous - How is the return to TL Mafia going? You suggested that you enjoy having a role with some power, have you ever played in a game where everyone has some role/ability? If not, does it sound appealing? 1) beentheredonethat - How do you feel about your play so far this game compared to past games? How confident do you feel in your reads right now? 3) MooooooosyDooooosy - Scale of 1-5 how much fun are you having in this game? Does it compare to any recent games? Assume you are able to make some very game influential move before you die, would you prefer to clinch the game near LyLo or secure an early lead? 4) nnn_thekushmountians - What has gone right this game? What has gone wrong? How should we learn from our mistakes rather than make them again? 5) Superbia - Where do you get your drive from? What gets you motivated? What needs cultivating right now? 6) FecalFeast - What do you cling to? What right now is most disturbing or upsetting to you? Is it important to keep our first impressions or should we always be letting the waves of information influence us? This took a surprisingly long time... Was hoping to have it finished last night, but I was too tired after GSL. | ||
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On June 09 2016 04:38 Skynx wrote: I'm not too happy switching to Scott he's super afk yeah but I really think we need to kill a big target today. Scott can be left for later on. What do you mean by a big target? | ||
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Thanks guys! Having caught up... I think the lack of defense and more importantly the lack of anything from Kush means I'm ok with him being the lynch. I know he posted that he was gunna be low effort in pre-game, but this is like no-effort. I'm kinda feeling like Emp and Skynx are bad lynches today kus they are actually contributing at a fairly consistant level. Still unsure about Skynx though with this recent "lets kill big targets and not scott!" "Big targets are people like scott, BtDt..." I'm liking Jealous less, partially just for contributing a lot less today. Mostly because he made a big deal about our Shennanies D1 and today has basically refused to discuss reads. The 180 there doesn't track very well for me because he's going against what was apparently his idea of how the game should be played. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Not even 100% sure I know what I'm doing with them either. Just trying something new... well new-ish. | ||
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Last question for you, I swear. Given that it looks like Kush might be getting lynched but he is not your pick, do you think he is a coinflip or is he more likely to flip one alignment over the other in your mind? | ||
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On June 09 2016 06:08 Fecalfeast wrote: generally or with relation to this game? These are vague questions Moreso with relation to this game, unless there is a general answer that really stands out to you. Yea, some of these were easier than others for me to conceive. | ||
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On June 09 2016 06:32 Jealous wrote: I also want to add that the two people as of the end of Day 1 who were the most townread besides TW are Superbia and BTDT. It may be too early to start worrying about night right now, but if neither of them gets killed, wouldn't that be an interesting piece of evidence? Using night kill logic or "why are you alive" thinking is pretty haphazard at best. Especially bad when it's still fairly early in the game and information is still really sparse. "Why are you alive" type thinking really shouldn't happen till LyLo is looming, and even then it's not great in all circumstances. | ||
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On June 09 2016 06:36 scott31337 wrote: Ff does this feel like it did yesterday or no? Who would you prefer to lynch? | ||
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Kush has done jack all today but vote Skynx who wasn't even a scumread of his until he made that post about Skynx's case on QT. Emp has been pretty active and open with his thoughts. I might have a really good reason to townread him actually but I have to ponder it a bit more and double check something. | ||
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On June 06 2016 12:50 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: Shitlist Ec Tt Tw Ff If Emp is town then I'm 99% sure this list is all town. I'm feeling about 87% on that already actually. + Show Spoiler + 54% chance I'm not just pulling percentages out of my ass. | ||
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I will have to berate some people if Emp gets lynched and flips town. | ||
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On June 09 2016 07:32 Jealous wrote: It strikes me as interesting that on both days you were the third to vote for the current ban leader. Jumping on the bandwagon? Hey as long as the wagon has the proper furnishings. This one is feeling much more comfy than QT's so I have no inklings of hopping off it like I did his. These lynches are pretty different tbh. | ||
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And while I'm not thrilled by this post On June 09 2016 07:11 emperorchampion wrote: idk, I'm so suspicous of both scott and kush I just realized that kush was the first to post Which was sheeped by pretty much everyone with basically no explanation. Scum reads all heavily favoured towns (well aparently I don't fall into that category LOL) This is fairly towny I suppose, but maybe pushing his own logic Otherwise I don't find much in his filter. I think these are the posts with the most content, and I don't really see what he's pushing for here. A lot of blank reads with no justification. He took the time to dig up these posts and post this before changing his vote from Scott to Kush. What do you guys make of that? (assuming it's not just me and Jealous here atm) | ||
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On June 09 2016 07:37 Jealous wrote: If they both flip town will you feel the same way? Yea, QT getting lynched i feel kinda bad for kus I had the sense that the lynch was bad and didn't do much about it till too late. Kush is a good enough player that he should be making some effort here. I wont feel bad if he flips town. | ||
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I don't get where Jealous is coming from at all anymore. Given his last reads post an hour or so ago he seemed to be far more suspect of Kush than Emp, and he claimed that he was fairly certain I was town. Yet none of his actions or posts since that reflect those views. If kush flips scum I think Jealous should be the lynch tomorrow. | ||
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On June 09 2016 07:49 Jealous wrote: How about the Skynx bandwagon that seemingly dissipated overnight? Reads change. | ||
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On June 09 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote: Ok, wasn't sure how I wanted to do this... I'm gunna try and just keep it simple. I've prepared a few questions for everyone, they might be a little strange but if you could humor me. This is for science. 1) Emperorchampion - How difficult is this game for you? Is it easier or harder than you expected? Is there anybody who has a style of play that you admire or enjoy? 2) Skynx - Assume you got Vig shot right this moment (eliminated from the game)... What is the first thing you would do? Both Kush and me flip scum, how might you start looking for the last scum? 4) Scott31337 - What do you like to do to develop reads? What is your opinion of the current atmosphere of the game? Disregarding low activity, who is your weakest read? 5) blkcoffee - 6) Jealous - How is the return to TL Mafia going? You suggested that you enjoy having a role with some power, have you ever played in a game where everyone has some role/ability? If not, does it sound appealing? 1) beentheredonethat - How do you feel about your play so far this game compared to past games? How confident do you feel in your reads right now? 3) MooooooosyDooooosy - Scale of 1-5 how much fun are you having in this game? Does it compare to any recent games? Assume you are able to make some very game influential move before you die, would you prefer to clinch the game near LyLo or secure an early lead? 4) nnn_thekushmountians - What has gone right this game? What has gone wrong? How should we learn from our mistakes rather than make them again? 5) Superbia - Where do you get your drive from? What gets you motivated? What needs cultivating right now? 6) FecalFeast - What do you cling to? What right now is most disturbing or upsetting to you? Is it important to keep our first impressions or should we always be letting the waves of information influence us? This took a surprisingly long time... Was hoping to have it finished last night, but I was too tired after GSL. ![[image loading]](http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2016_15/1493066/160412_white_house_science_fair_loki_803d54c14a54710155200ba6d628f074.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg) Science! | ||
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On June 10 2016 04:57 Superbia wrote: W/e I'll just die in the night and tomorrow will be a disaster bc TT is probably mafia. Why am I mafia now? I mean it's nice to know I'm not getting killed tonight but I'm wondering why you now think this. | ||
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On June 10 2016 06:17 Jealous wrote: Tictock what do you think of this reveal PR role initiative? It's not a terrible idea, we could use the extra info to help slim down the lynch pool. I'm not terribly keen on telling blues when to claim but doing so today is not bad. I'd leave it up to the blues themselves to do what they feel is best. Keep in mind that we are potentially nearing endgame, does your role serve much purpose in the last day or two of play or can you provide town with info that may help us out. Fake claims could be nasty though if we don't have the lynchs left to properly sort them out. So yea, blues claiming is a bit of a double edged sword but it might be a risk town needs to take to turn this game around. | ||
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So this puts us in 5/3 which means if we mislynch today the game is over. 4/3 going into Night phase, 3/3 next day (assuming no saves, which is super unlikely). Since we can't no lynch... this is gunna be rough. | ||
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I'm also just honestly not sure who is mafia anymore, it's time to reevaluate everyone. ##Vote: Superbia | ||
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On June 09 2016 09:47 MoosyDoosy wrote: There was a chance emperor or Skynx would have been lynched until Tictock told everyone to vote for kush. This made you and emperor to switch votes onto kush. Now, the reason why Tictock would expose himself like with the shenannies at EoD would be if either emperor or Skynx were his Mafia teammates and he wanted to push off of them and onto town!kush. That's assuming if Tictock's Mafia of course. On the other hand, there's the possibility that Tictock was just misled town which as I said, is not uncommon. The best course of action wouldn't be to go after Tictock in this scenario, but to look at the people who caused it. Either as Mafia or not, the fact remains that he pushed off of emperor/Skynx. If emperor/Skynx were Mafia teammates with Tictock, then it's fine to go for them as when we find the Mafia in them, it'll lead us to Tictock next day. In the scenario where Tictock was misled town, emperor/Skynx still have a high chance of flipping Mafia on their own. So either way, it's best to go after emperor/Skynx and let Tictock sort himself out for a later day. It gives us more time to discern his alignment. As it is, the only thing you're doing is pulling the trigger right away as a gut reaction to a bad flip. But note that the same situation happened in D1 with you where you were part of a mislynch on QuickTwist. So I'd advise taking a step back for now. Moosy being this level headed and sensible actually scares me a little. It's been forever since I played with him so hopefully this is just his town game improving. | ||
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On June 10 2016 08:48 MoosyDoosy wrote: alright guys i'm claiming cop and i was wrong. beentheredonethat just flipped red from my check. ##Vote: beentheredonethat What were your other checks? And why did you check BtDt and not Emp or Skynx? | ||
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On June 10 2016 08:51 Jealous wrote: So if we mislynch, town loses unless a miracle happens and scum targets vet or a person who was being protected. I see now why blues coming out today could be crucial, in both directions. In my opinion, here it is by role breakdown: Vet - No reason for them come out I think. That would just make scum's job that much easier by roleblocking and killing him when he is one of the only potential obstacles to their victory. Doc - Definitely no reason for them to come out. Cop - Cop needs to come out and give what his reads so far have been, unless they are one of the above two. If they are one of the above two, they should just say that person was VT. That way, scum won't know if the actual PR are in the cop's reads or outside them, effectively giving them nothing. Vigilante - I don't see a need for them to come out, and it would be nice to potentially coordinate as a town both a lynch and vigi kill. If the kill doesn't happen, then we know there is no vigi. So far there haven't been any additional kills, so it is either a very reserved vigi or he doesn't exist. I'm leaning towards the latter. Thoughts? If there is a Vig this game they are terrible for holding their shot this long. Vet could go either way, probably better for them not to claim unless they need to CC. Kus if you are Vet and 2 other people claim, then you know one of them is mafia. If mafia have a RB and think Vet is a possibility then they are probably RBing their NK's anyway. | ||
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On June 10 2016 09:02 MoosyDoosy wrote: Vote beentheredonethat for now to put the pressure on him and the scum team to respond in some way. You can always change your votes later anyway. I disagree with this actually. Assuming your claim is true (and I'm thinking it's good) BtDt should be lynched, but if we just pile on him then today will be super boring and we will loose much chance to get info. | ||
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On June 10 2016 09:07 Tictock wrote: I disagree with this actually. Assuming your claim is true (and I'm thinking it's good) BtDt should be lynched, but if we just pile on him then today will be super boring and we will loose much chance to get info. It's probably too late for this to not be the case though. | ||
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I'll take some time to double check that Moosy's claim checks out later tonight. For now people should consider if BtDt is mafia who his teammates might be. Just don't go "Oh red check, lets vote and come back next phase" | ||
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On June 10 2016 09:15 Jealous wrote: Well, if we bandwagon BTDT and no one says anything, wouldn't that be hella suspect? If scum doesn't both to CC or to otherwise question Moosy, that would mean that Moosy is the actual scum. Perhaps we should all jump on BTDT and see what happens? Well I could answer this, but I don't want to give scum ideas. Just think about it, and more importantly find a way to not have today be a long wait for him to flip. | ||
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I also feel pretty good about Emp being town still. So question to Moosy and Jealous. What do you guys think about Emp? Assuming for a moment that he is town, who do you think the last townie is? (between Skynx, Scott and Super) + Show Spoiler [Irony] + This reminded me... On June 07 2016 06:01 Tumblewood wrote: scumlist v2.0 everyone whose name starts with s Personally I could actually see a team of BtDt, Skynx and Super/Scott. | ||
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On June 07 2016 08:32 MoosyDoosy wrote: yaey tumble died. gratz on being pro at the game tumblerino. I’m sticking by my read that Jealous was town so it looks like that whole shitfest at the start of the game was TvT which was totally unproductive. :D Mafia is probably in one of the quieter players which unfortunately seems to be amongst the newer players. I do think that there is one Mafia in the veterans hiding himself very well but that will come with time. IIIIIII think we should go for Skynx. Not completely sure though and I’d have to read through filters again. On June 07 2016 12:40 MoosyDoosy wrote: nope, pretty sure he's a town newb which makes our job easier. Timestamp of that 2nd post to confirm he's talking about Jealous still. There's a few more but it's pretty obv he got a green check on Jealous D2. If he was scum fake claiming here I think he would have just "redchecked" Emp or Skynx, especially given he was kinda defending BtDt yesturday/last night. | ||
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On June 10 2016 15:53 beentheredonethat wrote: Just catching up. Posting from mobile since Moosy just claimed. Since there was no cc just yet, I think he is either genuine or no cop is in. I am not scum and I really want to point out that there is a framer in. I am the doc. I was roleblocked night 1, trying to save tumble, and I saved Jealous last night. Given that no vig kill on Emperor happened, I think we do not have a vig in which makes Moosys cmaim stronger. Only thing is that his claim forced me to claim myself. We will be fucked if we lynch myself for Moosys framed check. Moosy will be killed at night then and if I count correctly, we lost. I posted extremely low volume all the time to not get on scum radar which so far worked. So long story short: Moosy is the cop. There is a framer in. I am doctor. Honestly this sounds like me when I got tracked as scum delivering KP, didn't want to outright call the person who tracked me scum and tried to invent a world where everyone was town. Your reads check out I guess. You TR Tumble and put some faith in his posts, but the TR on Jealous feels less fleshed out. Tbh though there isn't much to go on. Eh the world you propose is hard to believe because for you to be town mafia not only must have a framer (which is apparently impossible, if I understood the setup) but also a Roleblocker, and both targeted you. Moosy's claim is much smoother and tracks really well given his posts, which means for him to be fake claiming he planned it out from the start of D2. So yea, I'm believing Moosy all the way here. | ||
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On June 10 2016 14:00 Superbia wrote: Also tt you are so different from pyp I take a different approach everygame. Also I tend to get more involved as the game goes on, and PyP was one hell of a game. + Show Spoiler + Sadly, even that EoN case didn't do the job it was supposed to do... Does that make me scum? Fight me. | ||
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Honestly it's kinda a toss up between you and Scott for me. I've been reading both you guys mostly on feels. This is of course assuming we aren't in one of the crazier worlds where Jealous is GF, Moosy is scum, my Yolo read of Emp is wrong. Tumble had a point about there being a mismatch in the quantity of your posting vs your drive and content. There is also a similarity in your own posting from PyP. Active and poking at the game, but letting others drive the game. Stuff like pointless go-nowhere questions. + Show Spoiler + On June 09 2016 05:16 Tictock wrote: Ok, wasn't sure how I wanted to do this... I'm gunna try and just keep it simple. I've prepared a few questions for everyone, they might be a little strange but if you could humor me. This is for science. 1) Emperorchampion - How difficult is this game for you? Is it easier or harder than you expected? Is there anybody who has a style of play that you admire or enjoy? 2) Skynx - Assume you got Vig shot right this moment (eliminated from the game)... What is the first thing you would do? Both Kush and me flip scum, how might you start looking for the last scum? 4) Scott31337 - What do you like to do to develop reads? What is your opinion of the current atmosphere of the game? Disregarding low activity, who is your weakest read? 5) blkcoffee - 6) Jealous - How is the return to TL Mafia going? You suggested that you enjoy having a role with some power, have you ever played in a game where everyone has some role/ability? If not, does it sound appealing? 1) beentheredonethat - How do you feel about your play so far this game compared to past games? How confident do you feel in your reads right now? 3) MooooooosyDooooosy - Scale of 1-5 how much fun are you having in this game? Does it compare to any recent games? Assume you are able to make some very game influential move before you die, would you prefer to clinch the game near LyLo or secure an early lead? 4) nnn_thekushmountians - What has gone right this game? What has gone wrong? How should we learn from our mistakes rather than make them again? 5) Superbia - Where do you get your drive from? What gets you motivated? What needs cultivating right now? 6) FecalFeast - What do you cling to? What right now is most disturbing or upsetting to you? Is it important to keep our first impressions or should we always be letting the waves of information influence us? This took a surprisingly long time... Was hoping to have it finished last night, but I was too tired after GSL. | ||
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On June 10 2016 20:08 Superbia wrote: Why do you believe that emperor is townie enough not to be considered but I am? In the moment his reaction to seeing himself tied with Kush in the votes yesterday felt extremely towny to me. Maybe I'm reading too much into that. | ||
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On June 04 2016 08:44 Skynx wrote: So, Incognito guide tells me town likes clarity and mafia likes contentless posts. Jealous sounds towny to me. QT also keep things clean. Super n moosy are kinda chatting shit so I assume we can read more as game progresses. Super is most scummy so far. On June 04 2016 09:37 Skynx wrote: Yeah i changed my mind now. QT and Superbia was just spamming and me tunnel visioning one of them didn't help. Newbie mistake. They both sound scummy. Eh ok, so a Skynx - Superbia team is really unlikely. Newbie scum bussing a vet teammate right off? Takes balls of steel to do that. On June 05 2016 03:23 Skynx wrote: @tumble what makes you wanna plynch sqrt instead of fecalfeast who is yet to post a word since daypost. Kinda defends Scott's slot. On June 05 2016 22:57 Skynx wrote: Tumble, emperor, you are townies For thoughts on QT read #604 Not much of read on most others but I don't feel like lynching kush+bddt for some time These are all just feels + I'm suspicious of one specific person but I'll keep that to myself for now. Pretty hard defense of BtDt. Actually I think this is the first appearance of BtDt in Skynx's filter. On June 06 2016 07:57 Skynx wrote: How is no one mentioning blackcoffee? This was him poping up EoD1 as soon as I suggested shennanies onto either him or BtDt. On June 09 2016 04:38 Skynx wrote: I'm not too happy switching to Scott he's super afk yeah but I really think we need to kill a big target today. Scott can be left for later on. Again defending both Scott and BtDt (and blk coffee to round out the low-volume posters minus Kush). Bit premature but a team of BtDt/Skynx/Scott is starting to look like the answer here boys. Also, this would mean my D1 reads were pretty on point | ||
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On June 07 2016 07:34 scott31337 wrote: Allright, I got some time to look over things - 1) Emperorchampion - this guy seems like newb town with some of his responses - 2) Skynx -He made a "case" on Quicktwist, which I am unsure new mafia would do - most are scared to stick out lilke that - but then also his last post is "Strategic lurking" so.... Not a bad fan at the moment. 5) blkcoffee - null not enough info - one page of filter 6) Jealous - Aggressive, shares his info and thoughts - townlean Venturing Vets 1) beentheredonethat - He shows his thoughts and posts, not all one-liners, townlean 2) Tumblewood - My gut instinct says hes town, i've read multiple games of his and this shows more of a town agenda - wants me dead though 3) MooooooosyDooooosy - He trolls a lot with either alignment, more as town though - and it's been a lot of trolling - 4) nnn_thekushmountians - he points out my posts, but I don't see a whole lot else from the guy. 5) Superbia - looks to be trying to figure out the game - townlean for now 6) FecalFeast -town chilled FF 7)Ticktock - This guy has quite a lot of opposite reads than I do, which makes me wonder - him and me in that milo game will always be on my mind I think I have too many "townies" - I'd have to go with scumteam of TT, Moosy, and Blkcoffee for now with maybe a bit of Tumble - I think Tumble should be the one I completely re-read. This is actually the last time Scott gave reads besides a fear read on me he's somewhat maintained. That in itself probably warrents a scumlean. These reads align with a BtDt/Skynx/Scott team as well. Honestly this is the only post that gives me pause about this team. On June 06 2016 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote: Given that Fecalfeast tried to initiate shenanigans makes me townread him. Since QT flipped town, there was absolutely no need for scum to try shenanigans. There were no other wagon on its way, so the mislynch must have been safe. It is interesting to note that I ended up with two votes, due to the attempted shenanigans. I'm wondering why, I don't think I appear too scummy and I think I should definitely be part of any town circle that there is. I am easily readable, I try to establish my thought processes, and I kept my vote on MoosyDoosy: noone confirmed the meta/"is he able to emulate his town meta" question yet (besides himself). Also, his vote made the difference: shenanigans could've worked if he wouldn't have been the 5th guy to vote QT. As a further note, Tumblewood still feels very townie to me. So I'll form my own town circle containing Superbia, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jealous and myself (I have to review Superbia though, I don't remember much from the end of D1 that I really liked. Still town pile, though). Following that pattern, we could easily have all three scum players on QuickTwist. Removing Jealous as my town read, it comes down to: Skynx, emperorchampion, scott31337, MoosyDoosy Of those four players, scott had two votes cast on him, temporarily three due to the QT vote. That might have triggered MoosyDoosy to finalize the wagon of QT. What do you think about scott and MoosyDoosy, guys? I feel like I might have found a connection here. While it's not enough for a lynch IMHO, it should be enough to justify a potential power role action. One should examine those guys at night very closely. I think it's too early to completely go by process of elimination - but I strongly suggest to not lynch outside of those players as the chance of having one or more scummers among those four bolded lads is very high. My nulls (i.e. todos) are thekushmountains and Tictock. Though it's not like there was any follow up with this scumread on Scott, instead his vote went onto Kush and pushed Emp as scum last night. Ok now I'm done. | ||
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On June 11 2016 02:11 Jealous wrote: I'm Vet. BTDT is scum. Moosy is cop. Anyone defending BTDT is probably scum also. Superbia by extension must be town. Discuss. I assumed this was the case based on your reactions to the suggestion that blues claim. Also in reply to Skynx questioning Moosy's check on BtDt. Honestly I find it more townie that his check there isn't totally logical. Scum who fake claim usually try to create a very believable story that lines up with what they said previously as perfectly as possible. Town tends to make stranger choices (one game some time ago we had a Town RB who literally RB'd mafia's NK target pretty much every single night). | ||
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On June 11 2016 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote: Alright nice. A team of Tictock/Skynx/beentheredonethat fits with the idea of a low-key scum team that didn't have much thread presence but was quiet enough that town was lost in the early chaos at the start of the game. Seriously? How in the hell do you think I am mafia with BtDt and Skynx? | ||
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On June 11 2016 05:41 beentheredonethat wrote: I just want to point out that the host did not answer the setup questions. You guys are about to lose the game because you lynch me. Two protective roles make absolute sense if there is a roleblocker in. I hold Jealous' claim for genuine. More points against Superbia: he was townread almost all the time. How is mafia not killing this guy? Points against Moosy: why exactly did he check me? He townread me before. So why say I am scum? Because my activity Level is low enough to make me an easy target. Also note that there are a lot of people that seem just fine doing - nothing. Those people are to blame once I flip. Again, I am the doctor. Moosy is not the cop. In a setup based on dies, Two protective roles are possible. Especially since this game's hosting has been rather slow and lackluster, no offense. Based on the OP 2 protective roles are impossible, and having looked at the setup enough I understand why Cop/Doc/Framer is impossible now. It seems as though mafia is guaranteed to have a RB and the role that the rolls determine is Framer/GF. Cop/Vet setup would mean that mafia has a Framer though. Best guess is that BtDt is the RB/Framer, and mafia tried to Frame Emp last night. Would explain why in his original claim he believed mafia had both RB and Framer (they do). | ||
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Won't be around today, so see everyone after the flip. | ||
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Will be catching up with this game sometime tonight. | ||
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I'd like to be seeing a little more out of Skynx and Scott, it's interesting that they are going after each other pretty much right off the bat. Also I'd like to know why Scott ninja voted Emp here. Emp what are your thoughts atm? Who do you think is scum? | ||
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On June 14 2016 06:13 scott31337 wrote: It's not a ninja vote - I'm voting with my conftown 100% Jealous Ah thats right. Kinda a cop out move though... eh? | ||
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Personally I'm kinda coming back to this game with fresh eyes since I was away for a full couple of days. I'm seeing a couple of possible worlds that both seem equally likely atm. I was playing this game without doing real filter dives just skimming for key posts, but I think I might need to try and cross check a few things. | ||
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I'm not sure how you can look at my EoD2 and think I was hedging my bets. | ||
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You had a scum read on me for most of the game, can you tell me what your read of me is now and what (if anything) has changed? | ||
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On June 14 2016 15:19 Superbia wrote: TT why has your scumread on me evaporated? You were coming into d3 voting me, but after the red check I'm nowhere to be seen. Why was I your hardest scum then? What happened that made you flip so enormously? From what I see you are no longer even considering me. What happened to tinfoil? It hasn't, I was just wanting to get more out of Scott and Skynx before I try to wrap my head around this game. Like... those 2 seemed like a good shot for the last 2 scum a few days ago but today it's not clicking in my head. Tbh they feel like the low hanging fruit of the game atm. I think I can only see 2 teams being possible atm, Scott and Skynx or Super and Emp. I think the biggest thing that is bugging me about you Super is stuff like this. On June 06 2016 04:53 Superbia wrote: I dislike that everyone was scumreading quicky that quickly (lolol), but I also don't like how quicky has been playing. Tbh, I have looked up a game of quicky on another site (town game), and quickly looked through it on Friday. He struck me as a decently clever town player. I'm kind of missing that feeling here. He feels very defensive and uncomfortable. But I'm pussying out and voting kush. I think this post summarizes your D1, you spent a decent bit of time posting and pushing some idea's around the first 2 days, but when push came to shove you went with Kush both times. On the one hand that seemed fine kus Kush was def not playing up to snuff, but looking back on this post it's just not sitting right how you are pushing Quick as scum but voting Kush. I'm also sure you could make the play to bury a teammate who got redchecked, so I'm not ready to give you a pass for pointing out mechanics that made BtDt's claim impossible. | ||
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Honestly my thinking here today is this. There has been a lot of pushing on Scott and Skynx such that they seemed like the next obv lynch targets. Today though I'm seeing both of them stepping up and trying to solve the game (not by huge leaps and bounds, but it's still there). Scott buddying his vote to Jealous is also coming off as town mindset to me, as in this situation town HAS to vote together otherwise scum can pile onto a mislynch and win right at the end of the day if someone is solo voting. Thats the vibe I'm getting from Super and Emp too, no really strong opinions from them or pushes. Feels like lots of questions and keeping options open. I know I'm not providing much evidence here, but I think I'm really starting to lean towards Emp/Super being the last 2 scum. | ||
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You asked me about your read on Scott, but tbh that whole post is more like you are building an association case between me and Scott, so I'm not sure how to answer besides I'm thinking Scott is town here. It seems to me that if anyone thinks I'm scum it pretty much has to be with Emp because of how much I defended him D2. | ||
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Sorry I wasn't around, storms knocked out our power here all day. Jealous you are like 100% the NK tonight man. You are confirmed town and scum can't afford to leave you alive, especially since you held strong and got scum lynched today. I think the last scum has to be Super. Just reading over that EoD he did almost anything to get people to switch off of Emp, but the real nail in the coffin for me is the fact that he voted off wagon. I made the point earlier that if one town was voting town then scum could just swap their votes last min and seal the victory. Super should know this all to well, but he was never willing to consolidate and vote Emp. Rather he was willing to risk the game to vote me. Because of the way the votes ended up the last scum can literally only be Me or Super. | ||
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On June 15 2016 08:00 Shapelog wrote: Final Day 4 vote count emperorchampion(4): Jealous, Scott31337, Tictock, Skynx Scott31337(0): Tictock(1) Skynx(1): Err actually I'm wrong. If super is town and one of scott or skynx switched (along with Emp ofc) it would only tie things up and Emp still gets lynched. Emp's votes here are probably WIFOM but man did he flail hard. It's kinda interesting that he didn't join Super on me in an effort to save himself. | ||
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On June 15 2016 06:02 emperorchampion wrote: 1) Scott 2) Skynx Scott: got through the first 2 days based off of "I dunno who to vote I haven't gotten a role yet, I guess the person ahead of me". His one contribution was a list of reads which were based off of... well I'm not really sure. Especially odd I found was his read on TT, which was just "reminded me of another game I played". Day 3 is a wash. Now coming to day 4 he's pushing me (which is an obvious target given D2 lol), and has nothing to say about TT despite scum reading him all game (I guess for no reason after all). Hitches his vote with Jealous (who has voted incorrectly all game (not saying that I haven't), but that doesn't make any sense to me to vote with him for that reason alone). I dunno, it's like he doesn't even care if it's right or wrong. Skynx: I've felt is mafia since the beginning of the game. Maybe he can just use noob as an excuse, but he was doing everything "by the guide", which doesn't make any sense to me at all. Its another one of those "oh if I'm wrong this is why", and not taking credit for things. Scum reads me for shitposting, but also shitposts. Of course both will go for me, since I am the easy target given D2 voting. TT is town because of a number of town posts. Also I believe that we have had a similar view on the game at many points during the game. But anyways, guess I'm gettin' wagon'd again boys Yea, pretty sure this means the last scum is never Skynx or Scott. Clever that he threw out such a throwaway townread on me here though. Tomorrow is 100% between me and Super. | ||
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On June 15 2016 07:52 Superbia wrote: Idk EC. Tbf the closer this is getting to EoD the more likely I think it is you are scum. x; This is such a shit post right before EoD. Spent the whole time trying to get people to move to Scott and then me, then right before the flip "oh, yea I guess you could be scum" | ||
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On June 15 2016 16:36 Superbia wrote: How does any of this make me scum? Your storyline is that I bus my team mate during mylo d1 super super hard and then hard defend my other team mate during mylo 2 super super hard. How does this fit the narrative for me as scum? Also I could've switched to scott (both skynx and EC were willing to vote), but didn't. What is my scum agenda TT? BtDt had a redcheck against him Emp did not. This aint rocket science. Also wtf does it even matter if I was here EoD or not? Like how does that make me scum and warrent you voting me? | ||
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Hell even the fact that you called BtDt a role or scum D1 but never followed that up with any pressure or anything screams of TMI. Then there is the way that you acted around both town lynches. I quoted your post about "Well QT looks like scum, and meta supports it, but Kush!" from D1 then D2 you went "well Idk if Kush is actually scum, but I'm just gunna stay here anyways". D3 yea you provided setup proof that BtDt's claim wasn't legit, though you also kept asking for another claim to disprove Moosy's. Really though yesturday was pretty telling. I don't recall you once giving an opinion on Emp, but you pushed pretty hard for Scott and then when I wasn't around EoD you started freaking out and pushed me. Way too much of your play aligns with scum agenda Super, and nothing is helping me see you as town. | ||
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On June 16 2016 03:16 Jealous wrote: So TT, it would be fair to say that you think Superbia nailed BtDt's coffin with his mathematical analysis in order to curry favor with town? Like, he was worried someone else might jump on the inconsistency? What bothers me about this is that I doubt BtDt made a claim like that without conferring with his scum colleagues, so this would mean that Superbia would have to have told BtDt to claim an impossible role, reveal that it was impossible to curry favor, have BtDt continue to incriminate himself by claiming yet another role, and thus eliminate any chance of scum winning on D3. That just doesn't seem like a smart thing to do. Humm this is actually a pretty good point. I'll relook at things in a few hours. | ||
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On June 06 2016 23:23 Superbia wrote: Fml they may have a framer. Cop, do what you want. On June 06 2016 23:24 Superbia wrote: Like if I flip tonight you guys need to question emperor on his scumread on me thoroughly Though tbh they also feel a little WIFOM, as is this post... On June 07 2016 05:06 Superbia wrote: Give your opinion near eon. 1m before deadline. I sincerely hope this is a play bc if you're town mafia can just nk you to put pressure on me throughout the game It's actually kinda tempting to think that the Tumble NK points to Super being scum, given that Fecal was very likely killed due to his pressure on Emp. These are talking about blkcoffee. On June 08 2016 05:42 Superbia wrote: He's probably going to get replaced or modkilled. I think we shouldn't give his slot a pass if he gets replaced. Agreed? On June 08 2016 05:42 Superbia wrote: I don't think we should* On June 08 2016 05:50 Superbia wrote: Tbf I hope he gets modkilled as long as he's not a PR. On June 08 2016 05:50 Superbia wrote: Actually that loses us a lynch so maybe not. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but Super starts off implying blk coffee could be scum then concludes him being modkilled loses us a lynch. Yet blkcoffee flipping only lost us a lynch if he flipped town, so Super is concluding here that blkcoffee is town. I think this is the first mention of BtDt in Supers filter (about 1/3 of the way in) On June 08 2016 06:43 Superbia wrote: This is also unlikely to come from a teammate of Emp... though it's also unlikely there would be a Vig holding his shot on N2 as well. I want to know why no one is interested in beentheredonethat anymore On June 09 2016 18:10 Superbia wrote: If blkcoffee is flipping/getting modkilled then vigi should shoot emperorchampion. Otherwise we hold the vigi shot because we get an extra day and therefore an extra night of night actions. Made it about halfway through Super's filter before I'm deciding to take a break. 30 pages is kinda an insane filter given how this game has been going. | ||
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I think this is the first mention of BtDt in Supers filter (about 1/3 of the way in) On June 08 2016 06:43 Superbia wrote: I want to know why no one is interested in beentheredonethat anymore This is also unlikely to come from a teammate of Emp... though it's also unlikely there would be a Vig holding his shot on N2 as well. On June 09 2016 16:20 Superbia wrote: Man. Sorry guys. I need to step up my game and take control more. =/ Work just has me pinned down and it also prevents me from being here during EoD. I'm going to be super selfish and request a medic save on me. Tomorrow is Friday and I can start pouring some actual time into the game. Also I can finally be part of EoD. If there is a vigi, you should probably shoot emperorchampion. It's paramount that we figure out how the wagons were set up. On June 09 2016 18:10 Superbia wrote: If blkcoffee is flipping/getting modkilled then vigi should shoot emperorchampion. Otherwise we hold the vigi shot because we get an extra day and therefore an extra night of night actions. Made it about halfway through Super's filter before I'm deciding to take a break. 30 pages is kinda an insane filter given how this game has been going. | ||
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On June 16 2016 23:54 Superbia wrote: TT can you go over your filter and hard defend yourself? Like quote posts from your own filter that show you can't be mafia in your opinion. I'm already too filtered out to dig through my own as well. I tried to start shennigans onto BtDt D1 because the Quick lynch didn't feel right, but did that too late to have real impact. You could read into that either way I bet. D2 I don't recall putting much pressure on either Skynx or BtDt and went along with the Kush wagon. EoD I was super verbal about not wanting to lynch Emp and pushed Kush over him. This was def a mafia sided day from me. D3 felt like a wash kus it was pretty obv right after Moosy's claim that BtDt should be the lynch, Moosy's claim looked good and his filter backed the claim to the point where it was clear he was the cop. I think I was the only person to give reasons for why Moosy's claim looked legit (without involving setuo mechanics). D4 I didn't do much, tried to get some activity and involvement from Scott and Skynx but ended up joining the Emp wagon by midday. I'm actually not sure what exactly changed my thinking about Emp. I missed the first part of the day kus I was out all weekend then missed EoD due to storms knocking out my power. So while my absence in some ways helped get Emp lynched it was stuff beyond my control so I'm not sure that can be AI. As far as I remember that has pretty much been my involvement this game. Probably my flip on Emp combined with D1 shennanies on BtDt are the things that most point to me being town. If I was gunna bus my last teammate I would probably do it in a way that actually earned me some towncred. Still... plenty of room for tinfoil I think. | ||
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Generally Skynx's filter is just blah. This post is just shitty no matter how you look at it Also interesting how Skynx made a big case on Quick D1 but since then hasn't done anything similar. This post showed that Skynx was lurking around EoD1, poped up with this as soon as I brought up shennanigans onto BtDt or Skynx. On June 06 2016 07:57 Skynx wrote: How is no one mentioning blackcoffee? In This reads post Skynx lists BtDt as "null- can't really read him" but then he lists BtDt as someone he doesn't want to lynch because they are not a "big target" Which also remines me of this post On June 05 2016 22:57 Skynx wrote: Tumble, emperor, you are townies For thoughts on QT read #604 Not much of read on most others but I don't feel like lynching kush+bddt for some time These are all just feels + I'm suspicious of one specific person but I'll keep that to myself for now. This actually looks like a good basis for an association. Skynx first states that he doesn't want to lynch BtDt for some time, then posts a null read on him, and goes right back to saying he doesn't want to lynch him. Nowhere is there actual reasoning on BtDt just this back and forth. Looking at Skynx's reactions to D3. This is pretty lackluster in that Skynx is not giving his own thoughts just accepting the thinking done by others. On June 10 2016 20:36 Skynx wrote: Well, I'm convinced by this and this that btdt is fakecalaiming out of pressure. but, his next few posts shows he's not really the convinced. On June 10 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote: I'm not trying to stir shit up or anything but His check on btdt is kinda out of nowhere imo cuz he spent entire d2 pressuring me and emp. If this is a situation where Moosy just fires shots on town btdt, he panics and screws up cc and Moosy defends his claim by just bringing up his Jealous tr on d2 we are so so fucked I mean only reason Moosy is not drawing suspicion is because btdt screwed up. On June 10 2016 23:19 Skynx wrote: Please please someone claim cop... On June 10 2016 23:47 Skynx wrote: Anyway, lets say we lynch btdt today, Jealous and Super I'm never lynching D4. Moosy's alignment will be revealed after today aswell so thats 3 out of the way. On June 10 2016 23:53 Skynx wrote: I know, I'm trying to make stuff happen for D4 assuming we correctly scum lynch btdt today and Moosy is cop for real. These posts are kinda interesting, this was his conclusion after filtering Emp. On June 14 2016 23:48 Skynx wrote: So he has this very laid back style for which most people gave town credit very early on and he's happy about it. Once pressure builds up he now has a very different style. I'm liking the fact that he pushes his questions over and over until he gets a reply, I'd think scum would just leave stuff hanging but this might be just very carefull play to not leave any traces. So he gets heavy accusations D2 (mostly out of his Jeal/QT/Tumble trio reads) and he's very calm about it. He doesn't really defend himself in any way and votes kush to save himself, also pointing out that the case on me is now kinda forgotten. As he abandons his Scott vote, his case becomes less powerfull. So today, he's forced into this situation where he has now no town credit because he had no previous btdt reads. He has to vote for others as previous occasions to save himself but there is still no coherent case on anybody or a solid defence on himself. Instinctively I don't think he can be scumteam with Scott because their beef goes long way. He defended TT against some people earlier on. He is scumreading me for a long time now but again no case. All that being said, if he is scum, he'd surely bring up some solid argument against me by now as many people are assigning me and him as scum team for a while now. Final thoughts: He absolutely has to defend himself right now. I don't feel he's town anymore but he is less scum than Scott & TT imo. I don't want to vote for him yet, but I will have to shennanie in case of no defence. If he flips scum, TT is final mafia and we win. On June 14 2016 23:53 Skynx wrote: Anyway, I'll be checking on phone. There has to be reasonable shennanies tonight. Holding my vote on Scott for now, he's still most scummy to me. The conclusion "I don't think he's town anymore, but is less scum than Scott & TT" is kinda strange especially when a lot of his posts in pg 5 of his filter seem to be making associative cases between Scott and myself. This was when Skynx voted Emp, On June 15 2016 05:10 Skynx wrote: You could just say you disagree with my opinion and which part of it rather than me reaching a dreamworld. I am voting now he's here. from the followup posts though it is clear that he would preffer to lynch Scott or Myself still. So it seems like Skynx only voted Emp out of pressure and its interesting he never shifted his vote after this point. After the flip On June 15 2016 08:14 Skynx wrote: TT is confirmed for me. So much for tonight. Yet... today nothing. | ||
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You haven't done jack all yet today when it seems like you should have been voting and pressuring me right off based on the fact you've been scum reading me all game and all those "If Emp flips scum TT is the last scum" and that last "TT is confirmed for me" post. | ||
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The point Jealous made about Super's breakdown of BtDt's claim and the stuff I found in his filter regarding Emp makes me think I was letting some paranoia get to me. Though in the last cycle Super and Emp were rather buddy buddy and both pushing hard against the Emp lynch. I guess I did the same thing D2 though so I shouldn't judge too much. | ||
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Your post with the EoD counts reminds me I should look at how D2 played out again. Seems like mafia had to all be piled onto Kush that day. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler [Emperor's] + On June 06 2016 03:03 emperorchampion wrote: I think that Skynx could be scum, not really sure on the rest since I haven't looked too much into it due to not having too much time atm. Superbia / Tictock seem town. Fecalfeast / scott not really sure. Seems like a mafia move to push an afk tho, so I don't know what it accomplishes. I think my vote has to go into tumble / QT / Jealous to figure this out. On June 06 2016 20:58 emperorchampion wrote: Half-Life 3 confirmed tier (Release date: soon (tm)) - Tumble - Moosy - fecal - ticktock Null - btdt - scott - blkcoffee Cesar's Army - kush - super - skynx My feelings at the moment, will post more when at office. On June 08 2016 00:40 emperorchampion wrote: Merci! crazy to see you flip this way!I think super's filter is "empty" as well (obv not in terms of pages), I think he's pretty sketchy. Given who I think is town, it's left down to him as mafia. One issue is that there are a number of wildcards, aka blkcoffee and scott who I have no idea what they could be due to the fact that they haven't really posted anything. So for now super fill this slot. Skynx I would have to look more thoroughly through his filter for specific examples, but I never got the sense that his posts were genuine. On June 12 2016 02:21 emperorchampion wrote: Yes, but the assumption of vig is based on framer, which is only claimed by btdt. However, given that there haven't been any counter claims on doc or vet, it seems likely that there is actually a framer, and a therefore that Jealous is indeed the vet. Anyhooo, it's pretty clear that btdt is mafia. My earlier suspicion for scott is slightly cleared by moosy's innocence, but I'm not sure if I'm fully satisfied with the only basis for his read on TT being that it's similar to a previous game. My feelings for Skynx remain similar as before, I just don't get a genuine feeling for him. It's sad that last day came down to me vs kush, and skynx was completely forgotten. Soo yeah, I'll probably be around a bit today if there's anything else. Rest of day + night will just be reading through filters I imagine. On June 13 2016 08:20 emperorchampion wrote: Sooo it doesn't look like anyone else is here atm, I think I'm out after this for the night Here's my scum power ranking: -Skynx -Scott -Tictock Half-Life 3 Confirmed List: -Jealsus -Super I stopped grabbing all the posts near the end of Emp's filter kus his is kinda long. Basically he went into his final day with a fairly strong scumread on Skynx, but his first vote was once again on Scott (who he pushed quite a bit this game actually, I didn't bother grabbing all those posts here either but they are there). + Show Spoiler [BtDt's] + On June 06 2016 18:52 beentheredonethat wrote: Given that Fecalfeast tried to initiate shenanigans makes me townread him. Since QT flipped town, there was absolutely no need for scum to try shenanigans. There were no other wagon on its way, so the mislynch must have been safe. It is interesting to note that I ended up with two votes, due to the attempted shenanigans. I'm wondering why, I don't think I appear too scummy and I think I should definitely be part of any town circle that there is. I am easily readable, I try to establish my thought processes, and I kept my vote on MoosyDoosy: noone confirmed the meta/"is he able to emulate his town meta" question yet (besides himself). Also, his vote made the difference: shenanigans could've worked if he wouldn't have been the 5th guy to vote QT. As a further note, Tumblewood still feels very townie to me. So I'll form my own town circle containing Superbia, Tumblewood, Fecalfeast, Jealous and myself (I have to review Superbia though, I don't remember much from the end of D1 that I really liked. Still town pile, though). Following that pattern, we could easily have all three scum players on QuickTwist. Removing Jealous as my town read, it comes down to: Skynx, emperorchampion, scott31337, MoosyDoosy Of those four players, scott had two votes cast on him, temporarily three due to the QT vote. That might have triggered MoosyDoosy to finalize the wagon of QT. What do you think about scott and MoosyDoosy, guys? I feel like I might have found a connection here. While it's not enough for a lynch IMHO, it should be enough to justify a potential power role action. One should examine those guys at night very closely. I think it's too early to completely go by process of elimination - but I strongly suggest to not lynch outside of those players as the chance of having one or more scummers among those four bolded lads is very high. My nulls (i.e. todos) are thekushmountains and Tictock. There was a lot of pushing on Super towards the end of BtDt's filter as well. Oh also some formatting got messed up in #1232 which I gave up trying to keep in Emp's section. I think it's pretty clear looking through these guy's filters that Skynx is the last scum. He stays in the background of both their reads as either scum or null but is never the focus of any of their pushes. It's most obv in Emps since he has a larger filter, but there is minor evidence in BtDt's as well. In contrast I found a decent bit of legit looking pressure on both Scott and Super in both their filters. | ||
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Tictock
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On June 17 2016 14:53 Superbia wrote: Haha work has me busy. For me this day comes down to you and skynx. Ill be around in ~10hrs or so to question a bit. I'd prefer it if you could both (skynx and tt) be around at around that time for some inquisitional questions.Uhg, weird time for me. No promises. | ||
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Tictock
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On June 17 2016 15:31 Superbia wrote: Also btdt's end of (his) game should just be taken as WIFOM (though it seemed he was genuinely trying). Yea his posts about you an Moosy seemed to be geniune OMGUS based. | ||
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Tictock
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On June 17 2016 15:39 Superbia wrote: I think if you were genuinely lurking EoD4 (TT) then you might've switched to scott since I had the votes rallied up. Prob not, my first though reading though that EoD was "Wow how hard is Super fighting this lynch"... Though yea idk if it woulda felt diff in the moment. Though having just read over most of Emp's filter again he played really well. Hell I fought his lynch just as hard, if not harder, D2. | ||
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Tictock
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On June 17 2016 16:55 Skynx wrote: Tictock man why did you fake pressure Super, just to bait me? It wasn't fake, but I usually (and especially in LyLo) will take a step back at the start of the day and re-evaluate stuff. The point jealous made about the claim stuff was good, and when I went through the first half of Supers filter I found enough stuff to go along with that that I realized I was barking up the wrong tree. After that everything just kept falling into place as I started to relook at stuff. | ||
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Tictock
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Seemed like Town did a pretty good job of getting on the same page though, we had a pretty good town circle formed early on even if some doubts kept sneaking in. Def well played game by everyone involved, though I wonder what happened with Kush (prob just ended up not having time for the game I assume). Emp and Jealous were both really impressive throughout and Skynx you did a good job making it to endgame. Blkcoffee also was amazingly easy for me to read despite only getting a few posts into the game (so you did your job well). So props to all the new players, and GG everyone. | ||
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Tictock
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On June 19 2016 06:14 nnn_thekushmountains wrote: weak scumteam. Gets lynched D2 kus no effort given. Insults loosing team post game. Quality Play. On June 19 2016 06:30 QuickTwist wrote: GG team. Glad I could play in this game even though I had pretty much no effect on it. I actually hope you decide to play again, you were really active and seemed to be pretty interested in getting advice on how to improve in Obs. Though there are plenty of players around here who will want to lynch you with the playstyle you have. Eventually people will learn to read you a little better and if you keep at it (especially taking advantage of coaching, obs, and shadowing if you would like) you'll find your own play improving. | ||
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