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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
April 21 2016 19:08 GMT
#261
Napped longer than I expected.

That reads post from GB actually seems pretty good after a quick read. A bit hesitent to call him town though because I've seen him screw around and save his effort for EoD before as scum. Still his thoughts felt pretty coherent and reasonsble ... Idk I think I'll reevalueate after rereading the game.

@HtS About the time. I asked FF whathis thoughts on Damdred where I glanced back at his filter myself. I got the sense that his early posts where half joking half stirring up discussion which made me lean town. Since then I haven't gotten any strong feels off him.

The posts I quoted from Tumble about GB felt off to me since Tumble jumped in early on to tell GB that he was joking, but then called GB's case on SL "solid thinking" when it was about the same thing he was saying was a joke earlier. Then he caught that and retracted that read a bit. It came off to me like Tumble wasn't paying attention to what GB was talking about there even though he was around when GB first started questioning those posts from SL.

@ Shape, My read on Tumble hasn't really changed. That line just continues to bug me kus it's a weird thing for town to say. He basically said he considers LS to be as towny as himself, which either means hes totally sure LS is town or that he's not really thinking of himself as town.
I can take that responsibility.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 21 2016 19:33 GMT
#262
I here just got done with classes for the day:
On April 22 2016 01:18 Half the Sky wrote:
17/40

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 01:06 GlowingBear wrote:
How much time do we have until deadline?


Just south of 6h15. 2330 BST, you're what, 2-3 hours behind?




Tictock any thoughts on Damdred?

Also re: your point on Tumbleweed, I would make the argument newer players really shouldn't be metaing people after a paltry 2 games played but I digress. This was Tumbleweed's post among a few defending LS:

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 01:36 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 21 2016 00:50 Half the Sky wrote:
6/40

Shapelog, I'll rephrase the question.

Tumbleweed, on the basis you townread LS (and I argued why it was poor), why couldn't that same critieria also come from mafia?

That is mainly what I was trying to get at. I feel the bases for all his reads are pretty weak and I just don't know if that's his style (which you are contending) or whether he's actually mafia, the posts seem scummy to me.

Also regarding post 134, the inset is part of the reason I scumread LS, double standard. Also just because I vote someone doesn't mean it's final. If I have reason to second guess my thinking or I find a better lynch I can always unvote.

I think it's townie because that's the kind of post scum just ignores. After playing Storm and XX with him, I don't really scumread him for having bad reasons for his reads, because that seems to be NAI for him.


....which by my interpretation seems to incorporate some meta into it.

LS looks worse with every post IMO - and in response to his point about LS defending him - scum are very perfectly capable of defending townies when it suits their agenda.

I'm still looking at others in the event we need to consolidate - the votes are a shambles right now with 6h15 to go - but LS is my top lynch pick. By far.

Fidei had the issue with you possibly taking the Tumbleweed posts out of context. The posts you quoted earlier I didn't think were problematic.


I looking worse and worse to you because I pushing for your lynch so obviously you want to put more suspicion on me over you Half the Scum. Like you will end up like this white guy in this:
[image loading]
wrote:[/B]
Huzzah, town this time.

It amuses me to see you all worried at the cap. To you it is a limit to be minded. To me it is a aspiration . You are all merely adopting low activity for a game. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see spam till I was nearly a man and by then it was naught to me but fluff.

-
Gumshoe is overplaying the jokes with Koshi and Damdred.[/QUOTE]

you assume I meant it as a joke : P

I didnt like how Damdred made an identical filler post twice,

I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons.

We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice.

Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here
!

he then wasted a second post saying the same thing / :

Listen guys I just want to make Teamliquid great again.

A vote for hts is a vote for freedom.

I want to build a wall between this town and scum. So let's go.


I came into to this game looking for a specific kind of post from scum early. It would fill two cirterias.

1: it would be fluff (policy lynch)

2: it would be the kind of posts that draw in responses

drawing towns attention to a policy lynch based off joke reasons fits these 2 criteria, the goal of which is to burn posts from multiple townies concerning shit that is unreadable.

Also the serious questions in my first post to him are jokes, not because I meant them jokingly, but because the questions do not get meaningful answers, whereas the vote can actually get good responses.

so yeah, the vote was as series a vote as one can make on page 2 of a game of mafia.

the joke was a truth and the questions lead only to lies / :

also seeing damdred act a little forced at the start reminded me of this,

the reason I want to go is because I think playing with different players elsewhere will get me out of this laxy funk I am in to some degree.

It would force me to play against players who don't know my meta and where I can't skate by on reputation.

shrug its a bit just for me instead of the community and I won't stand in the way of koshi either and I'll try to just work through some of the things I've talked through with some people.


(his reasoning for wanting to go to champions) I figure his current mindset is pushing him to make bigger plays as ether faction than he would typically.

new section- why gumshoe is wrong.

1: How else are people supposed to get stuff rolling aside from filler?-answer- meh

2: Why would damdred sweep into defend you if hes scum? answer-wifom? Yeah does seem like that was a good opportunity to pounce.

3: why didnt you bring this all up right away? - wanted to see how people would respond. not disappointed.

4: Whats wrong with trying hard? you do it all the time (except when you dont) -answer- meh

5: arent you wrong like six times a game gumshoe? -answer- shut up, this heres the one, gonna catch em all day 1 : P

overall case stability-3/10[/QUOTE]

Clearly a post to get discussion going. Town points.

On April 20 2016 08:46 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.


admittedly it's not a very good case on you / : I'm just gonna assume I was flat out wrong,

##unvote
Show nested quote +

You expressed an opinion about Plynching and then joke-scummed Damdred. The opinion has nothing to do with Damdred, he just prompted it.

Gum asked Damd to give him a reason to think HTS was more likely to be scum for real. Then, after his question is blown off with another joke, goes back to a joking tone and vote. It is the shift from a pressuring tone back to a joking tone for no reason that caught my eye.

Long explanation for a small feeling, but whatever.


this is about the opportunism I was expecting / : but it's not very strong and it doesn't feel like hes baiting someone else in to come after me, just posting his feels.

slight townie read

(5)


Bad backtracking. Do you want or you don't want to have discussion ongoing? It makes me feel you actually wanted to justify your vote to LS instead of just pushing a discussion further. Townie points taken away. Null leaning to scum.

On April 20 2016 09:16 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 08:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think the only alignment indicative thing so far is gumshoe acting like there's been anything alignment indicative so far.

2


-_- bitch, you know how I am

speaking of overanalysis

Show nested quote +
I am only here to learn the ways of the low count poster. Well, I guess I am already failing, but w/e.

What is different between what I did, and what Gumshoe did?


I dont like how shape tries to bunch me and him together in turns of our posts. Likes hes defending himself through defending me, proxy wars op

slight scum lean.


Is this a joke? If it is a joke, you're wasting posts, something you called Damdred out for. Now if you're trying to develop discussion, you're just throwing suspicons everywhere, which isn't really great to be honest. One thing is to find something weak and suspicious and push it mostly for the sake of discussion. Other thing is to put suspicions everywhere, which is really easy to do as mafia. I don't like you in this game, gumshoe :/

- Tumblewood

On April 20 2016 14:38 Tumblewood wrote:
Shape, why did you use Damdred's obvious joke as an opportunity to discuss plynches? I know that he mentioned them, but your post was a non sequitur still. Please explain.


I like this questioning very much. Townie points.[/spoiler]

This is the best I could do. It's from the very beginning of the game. I couldn't go further.

Basically, from what I've read, I'm at this point:

Damdred
DYH
Tumblewood


gumshoe
LightningStrike


[/QUOTE]
Look at the stuff later on why I thought gumshoe is town after a while >.<
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-21 19:42:50
April 21 2016 19:39 GMT
#263
I was asked if more posts will be given for the night phase.
Each 40-post restriction lasts until the end of the cycle, which includes the night, after which a new set of 40 posts is received. Posts you did not use are not transferred into the next phase.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
April 21 2016 19:43 GMT
#264
On April 22 2016 04:33 LightningStrike wrote:
I here just got done with classes for the day:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 01:18 Half the Sky wrote:
17/40

On April 22 2016 01:06 GlowingBear wrote:
How much time do we have until deadline?


Just south of 6h15. 2330 BST, you're what, 2-3 hours behind?




Tictock any thoughts on Damdred?

Also re: your point on Tumbleweed, I would make the argument newer players really shouldn't be metaing people after a paltry 2 games played but I digress. This was Tumbleweed's post among a few defending LS:

On April 21 2016 01:36 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 21 2016 00:50 Half the Sky wrote:
6/40

Shapelog, I'll rephrase the question.

Tumbleweed, on the basis you townread LS (and I argued why it was poor), why couldn't that same critieria also come from mafia?

That is mainly what I was trying to get at. I feel the bases for all his reads are pretty weak and I just don't know if that's his style (which you are contending) or whether he's actually mafia, the posts seem scummy to me.

Also regarding post 134, the inset is part of the reason I scumread LS, double standard. Also just because I vote someone doesn't mean it's final. If I have reason to second guess my thinking or I find a better lynch I can always unvote.

I think it's townie because that's the kind of post scum just ignores. After playing Storm and XX with him, I don't really scumread him for having bad reasons for his reads, because that seems to be NAI for him.


....which by my interpretation seems to incorporate some meta into it.

LS looks worse with every post IMO - and in response to his point about LS defending him - scum are very perfectly capable of defending townies when it suits their agenda.

I'm still looking at others in the event we need to consolidate - the votes are a shambles right now with 6h15 to go - but LS is my top lynch pick. By far.

Fidei had the issue with you possibly taking the Tumbleweed posts out of context. The posts you quoted earlier I didn't think were problematic.


I looking worse and worse to you because I pushing for your lynch so obviously you want to put more suspicion on me over you Half the Scum. Like you will end up like this white guy in this:
[image loading]
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 03:26 GlowingBear wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Damdred

On April 20 2016 07:34 Damdred wrote:
Hello I'd advise everyone but koshi to put a number in your post so that you can keep a better check on them. Koshis just awesome enough he doesn't need it.

I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons.

We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice.

Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here!

[1]


Awkward jokes from Damdred gives me scumvibes. Yet, this is illogical so I will just put this as NAI. Still, it's relevant for me to say I don't like this opening.

On April 20 2016 08:16 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 08:11 DoYouHas wrote:
You expressed an opinion about Plynching and then joke-scummed Damdred. The opinion has nothing to do with Damdred, he just prompted it.

Gum asked Damd to give him a reason to think HTS was more likely to be scum for real. Then, after his question is blown off with another joke, goes back to a joking tone and vote. It is the shift from a pressuring tone back to a joking tone for no reason that caught my eye.

Long explanation for a small feeling, but whatever.


This is actually a towny type thought dyh Ca do the town pile for now.

5


Same reaction I had to DYH post, which makes me think Damdred is likely to be town.

On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.


Again, same reaction as me. Damdred is most likely town.

DoYouHas
On April 20 2016 08:11 DoYouHas wrote:
You expressed an opinion about Plynching and then joke-scummed Damdred. The opinion has nothing to do with Damdred, he just prompted it.

Gum asked Damd to give him a reason to think HTS was more likely to be scum for real. Then, after his question is blown off with another joke, goes back to a joking tone and vote. It is the shift from a pressuring tone back to a joking tone for no reason that caught my eye.

Long explanation for a small feeling, but whatever.


This post stroke me as town. I like the analysis DYH, it felt genuine and it's actually an okay suspicion.

- LightningStrike

On April 20 2016 08:18 LightningStrike wrote:
I finally got my prayers answered by RNGJesus and it got me town for the first time in a Lex game. I do fin the vote by gum kinda weird due to his reasoning. His rerasonig is pretty saying he doesn't want a Donald Trump in this game although I don't blame it might happen :\


I don't like this post from LS because it's clearly he got it was a joke from Damdred, then gumshoe's vote must also be a vote. It shouldn't be suspicious. Leaning scum.

On April 20 2016 08:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.

I was just being blunt on what I thought thought Gumshoe had said and I was making it a tiny bit of a fun joke because I hate trump myself but his supporters are even worse :\
Anyways Gumshoe is likely town based on my only game playing with him in Storm with his style of posting matching his style of posting here. I really don't think a scum gumshoe would vote anyone this early in the game and breaking down a case like that.


Wow, suddenly gumshoe is likely town. After you were suspicious of his vote. A quick shift from the original suspicion. I don't like it.

On April 20 2016 09:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 09:32 Tictock wrote:
Oh cool, this started already.

I'll check in later when there is stuff to read.

kinda dislike this post because he blatantly doesn't want to stir up discussion.


Nitpicking. You're mafia.

- gumshoe
On April 20 2016 08:39 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 08:00 DoYouHas wrote:
Huzzah, town this time.

It amuses me to see you all worried at the cap. To you it is a limit to be minded. To me it is a aspiration . You are all merely adopting low activity for a game. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see spam till I was nearly a man and by then it was naught to me but fluff.

-
Gumshoe is overplaying the jokes with Koshi and Damdred.


you assume I meant it as a joke : P

I didnt like how Damdred made an identical filler post twice,

Show nested quote +
I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons.

We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice.

Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here
!

he then wasted a second post saying the same thing / :

Show nested quote +
Listen guys I just want to make Teamliquid great again.

A vote for hts is a vote for freedom.

I want to build a wall between this town and scum. So let's go.


I came into to this game looking for a specific kind of post from scum early. It would fill two cirterias.

1: it would be fluff (policy lynch)

2: it would be the kind of posts that draw in responses

drawing towns attention to a policy lynch based off joke reasons fits these 2 criteria, the goal of which is to burn posts from multiple townies concerning shit that is unreadable.

Also the serious questions in my first post to him are jokes, not because I meant them jokingly, but because the questions do not get meaningful answers, whereas the vote can actually get good responses.

so yeah, the vote was as series a vote as one can make on page 2 of a game of mafia.

the joke was a truth and the questions lead only to lies / :

also seeing damdred act a little forced at the start reminded me of this,

Show nested quote +
the reason I want to go is because I think playing with different players elsewhere will get me out of this laxy funk I am in to some degree.

It would force me to play against players who don't know my meta and where I can't skate by on reputation.

shrug its a bit just for me instead of the community and I won't stand in the way of koshi either and I'll try to just work through some of the things I've talked through with some people.


(his reasoning for wanting to go to champions) I figure his current mindset is pushing him to make bigger plays as ether faction than he would typically.

new section- why gumshoe is wrong.

1: How else are people supposed to get stuff rolling aside from filler?-answer- meh

2: Why would damdred sweep into defend you if hes scum? answer-wifom? Yeah does seem like that was a good opportunity to pounce.

3: why didnt you bring this all up right away? - wanted to see how people would respond. not disappointed.

4: Whats wrong with trying hard? you do it all the time (except when you dont) -answer- meh

5: arent you wrong like six times a game gumshoe? -answer- shut up, this heres the one, gonna catch em all day 1 : P

overall case stability-3/10


Clearly a post to get discussion going. Town points.

On April 20 2016 08:46 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.


admittedly it's not a very good case on you / : I'm just gonna assume I was flat out wrong,

##unvote
Show nested quote +

You expressed an opinion about Plynching and then joke-scummed Damdred. The opinion has nothing to do with Damdred, he just prompted it.

Gum asked Damd to give him a reason to think HTS was more likely to be scum for real. Then, after his question is blown off with another joke, goes back to a joking tone and vote. It is the shift from a pressuring tone back to a joking tone for no reason that caught my eye.

Long explanation for a small feeling, but whatever.


this is about the opportunism I was expecting / : but it's not very strong and it doesn't feel like hes baiting someone else in to come after me, just posting his feels.

slight townie read

(5)


Bad backtracking. Do you want or you don't want to have discussion ongoing? It makes me feel you actually wanted to justify your vote to LS instead of just pushing a discussion further. Townie points taken away. Null leaning to scum.

On April 20 2016 09:16 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 08:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think the only alignment indicative thing so far is gumshoe acting like there's been anything alignment indicative so far.

2


-_- bitch, you know how I am

speaking of overanalysis

Show nested quote +
I am only here to learn the ways of the low count poster. Well, I guess I am already failing, but w/e.

What is different between what I did, and what Gumshoe did?


I dont like how shape tries to bunch me and him together in turns of our posts. Likes hes defending himself through defending me, proxy wars op

slight scum lean.


Is this a joke? If it is a joke, you're wasting posts, something you called Damdred out for. Now if you're trying to develop discussion, you're just throwing suspicons everywhere, which isn't really great to be honest. One thing is to find something weak and suspicious and push it mostly for the sake of discussion. Other thing is to put suspicions everywhere, which is really easy to do as mafia. I don't like you in this game, gumshoe :/

- Tumblewood

On April 20 2016 14:38 Tumblewood wrote:
Shape, why did you use Damdred's obvious joke as an opportunity to discuss plynches? I know that he mentioned them, but your post was a non sequitur still. Please explain.


I like this questioning very much. Townie points.


This is the best I could do. It's from the very beginning of the game. I couldn't go further.

Basically, from what I've read, I'm at this point:

Damdred
DYH
Tumblewood

gumshoe
LightningStrike



Look at the stuff later on why I thought gumshoe is town after a while >.<
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 21 2016 19:43 GMT
#265
7. DoYouHas
9. GlowingBear
12. gumshoe

These 3 people look fine to lynch. I think I want to keep HTS around. But I think LS is at least twice more townie than HTS. But I don't know if I want to lynch in them atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 19:53 GMT
#266
On April 22 2016 04:08 Tictock wrote:
Napped longer than I expected.

That reads post from GB actually seems pretty good after a quick read. A bit hesitent to call him town though because I've seen him screw around and save his effort for EoD before as scum. Still his thoughts felt pretty coherent and reasonsble ... Idk I think I'll reevalueate after rereading the game.

@HtS About the time. I asked FF whathis thoughts on Damdred where I glanced back at his filter myself. I got the sense that his early posts where half joking half stirring up discussion which made me lean town. Since then I haven't gotten any strong feels off him.

The posts I quoted from Tumble about GB felt off to me since Tumble jumped in early on to tell GB that he was joking, but then called GB's case on SL "solid thinking" when it was about the same thing he was saying was a joke earlier. Then he caught that and retracted that read a bit. It came off to me like Tumble wasn't paying attention to what GB was talking about there even though he was around when GB first started questioning those posts from SL.

@ Shape, My read on Tumble hasn't really changed. That line just continues to bug me kus it's a weird thing for town to say. He basically said he considers LS to be as towny as himself, which either means hes totally sure LS is town or that he's not really thinking of himself as town.

The reads post from GB seems good + he sometimes screws around until EoD = still hesitant to call him town? I don't see why that would make you more hesitant.
Re: GB, that was because filters don't give context.
Re: LS, of course I'm more confident in my towniness than LS.
good times for all
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 20:15 GMT
#267
On April 22 2016 04:43 Koshi wrote:
7. DoYouHas
9. GlowingBear
12. gumshoe

These 3 people look fine to lynch. I think I want to keep HTS around. But I think LS is at least twice more townie than HTS. But I don't know if I want to lynch in them atm.

I do not want to lynch any of those people except maybe DYH
Gumshoe will probably make his alignment obvious, given time. GB is just town though.
Agree on keeping HtS around because I don't want to lynch her if she is town.
good times for all
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 21 2016 20:24 GMT
#268
Vote Count:


LightningStrike (2) - Half the Sky, GlowingBear
DoYouHas (2) - Koshi, Tumblewood
Half the Sky (1) - LightningStrike
Tumblewood (1) - Tictock
Koshi (1) - sicklucker
Gumshoe (1) - Fidei86
Not voted (5) - Shapelog, DoYouHas, Damdred, gumshoe, Fecalfeast

At the current vote, LightningStrike is to be lynched.
until deadline.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
April 21 2016 20:34 GMT
#269
Distracted myself with some stuff but doing my reread now.

I actually like Gum a lot less going back through. His case on damdred is pretty weak, but it's pretty weird that he spent almost as much effort talking about why is own case is weak as he did talking about why his vote wasn't a joke. Then he goes and retracts it immediately.

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On April 20 2016 08:39 gumshoe wrote:
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On April 20 2016 08:00 DoYouHas wrote:
Huzzah, town this time.

It amuses me to see you all worried at the cap. To you it is a limit to be minded. To me it is a aspiration . You are all merely adopting low activity for a game. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see spam till I was nearly a man and by then it was naught to me but fluff.

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Gumshoe is overplaying the jokes with Koshi and Damdred.


you assume I meant it as a joke : P

I didnt like how Damdred made an identical filler post twice,

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I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons.

We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice.

Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here
!

he then wasted a second post saying the same thing / :

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Listen guys I just want to make Teamliquid great again.

A vote for hts is a vote for freedom.

I want to build a wall between this town and scum. So let's go.


I came into to this game looking for a specific kind of post from scum early. It would fill two cirterias.

1: it would be fluff (policy lynch)

2: it would be the kind of posts that draw in responses

drawing towns attention to a policy lynch based off joke reasons fits these 2 criteria, the goal of which is to burn posts from multiple townies concerning shit that is unreadable.

Also the serious questions in my first post to him are jokes, not because I meant them jokingly, but because the questions do not get meaningful answers, whereas the vote can actually get good responses.

so yeah, the vote was as series a vote as one can make on page 2 of a game of mafia.

the joke was a truth and the questions lead only to lies / :

also seeing damdred act a little forced at the start reminded me of this,

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the reason I want to go is because I think playing with different players elsewhere will get me out of this laxy funk I am in to some degree.

It would force me to play against players who don't know my meta and where I can't skate by on reputation.

shrug its a bit just for me instead of the community and I won't stand in the way of koshi either and I'll try to just work through some of the things I've talked through with some people.


(his reasoning for wanting to go to champions) I figure his current mindset is pushing him to make bigger plays as ether faction than he would typically.

new section- why gumshoe is wrong.

1: How else are people supposed to get stuff rolling aside from filler?-answer- meh

2: Why would damdred sweep into defend you if hes scum? answer-wifom? Yeah does seem like that was a good opportunity to pounce.

3: why didnt you bring this all up right away? - wanted to see how people would respond. not disappointed.

4: Whats wrong with trying hard? you do it all the time (except when you dont) -answer- meh

5: arent you wrong like six times a game gumshoe? -answer- shut up, this heres the one, gonna catch em all day 1 : P

overall case stability-3/10

On April 20 2016 08:46 gumshoe wrote:
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On April 20 2016 08:41 Damdred wrote:
It's not easy ring posts if I am putting reads into the game or was entering the game.

While it's true that scum like wasting posts so they do not have to post later in the phase I am probably doing half in the first then do 10 and saving 15 near eod. A post restrictive game doesn't have to be a dead game.

SL is obviously null

Town on gumshoe and on dyh (tentative on both for halfway meh reasons)

LS is sort of in the bottom half of null bordering on a scum lean. He entered the game bringing nothing new but rehashed something someone else said and making it look worse than it was. He could be scum.


admittedly it's not a very good case on you / : I'm just gonna assume I was flat out wrong,

##unvote
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You expressed an opinion about Plynching and then joke-scummed Damdred. The opinion has nothing to do with Damdred, he just prompted it.

Gum asked Damd to give him a reason to think HTS was more likely to be scum for real. Then, after his question is blown off with another joke, goes back to a joking tone and vote. It is the shift from a pressuring tone back to a joking tone for no reason that caught my eye.

Long explanation for a small feeling, but whatever.


this is about the opportunism I was expecting / : but it's not very strong and it doesn't feel like hes baiting someone else in to come after me, just posting his feels.

slight townie read

(5)




All I see later in his filter is a slight suspiscion of Shape that goes nowhere, a strong? townread on HtS, a townread on LS that I actually hate (He's town because he's omgusing HtS and remembering past games...what?) maybe he messed up his quotes (no idea why Damdred's is there) and I'm missing something...

On April 21 2016 03:04 gumshoe wrote:
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On April 20 2016 07:34 Damdred wrote:
Hello I'd advise everyone but koshi to put a number in your post so that you can keep a better check on them. Koshis just awesome enough he doesn't need it.

I think we should policy lynch hts for two reasons.

We have a pretty good chance to hit scum and she is probably drinking whiskey which is her scum drink of choice.

Fight against the powers and game mod tyranny of hts by striking her down here!

[1]


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I also starting to think HTS is scum because she picking a easy target history wise in me and she just saw me play in cell as scum so if she is mafia she got a perfect opportunity to do it here.


this paranoia reads to me as townie as ls it shows ls is keeping games in the back of his mind as he plays. Which makes me think hes trying to improve as we speak, something scum tend to lack as scum tend to improve in alot of other different ways that have little to do with past games (better lunging, anti association, ect).



Just looking over the case/retraction and further posts I get the sense gum is having a hard time looking for scum and his absence from the game for over a day now kinda resonates with that.

Still rereading, just wanted to get that down and out before I get distracted by something else.
I can take that responsibility.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 20:45 GMT
#270
I'm not sure why SL jeeps somehow avoiding people's lists, he's almost done the least amount in game and hasn't posted in forever.

Besides that I am curious how tumble has such a hard town read on gb in this situation?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 21 2016 20:46 GMT
#271
On April 22 2016 05:45 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure why SL jeeps somehow avoiding people's lists, he's almost done the least amount in game and hasn't posted in forever.

Besides that I am curious how tumble has such a hard town read on gb in this situation?

Dnu. I think sl is actually so extremely horrible he is maybe not mafia :/
I had a good night of sleep.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 20:48 GMT
#272
Also the vote count looks exceptionally nasty.

I don't think ls or hts should,be up for lynch today. Especially ls hrs been one towny mother fuckers this game.

Koshis is never scum here I think so SL is voting someone who he thinks is probably town but doesn't care another scum point.

Tt and did really aren't pushing as hard as I thought.

Any way I think we need to get this down a bit more to a couple wagons to,get real,information instead of so spread out doing whatever we want.

And no ls no lynching hts today maybe tommorow, hoe she's randomly dropping names to see if people think they ate scum bothers me.

Anyway.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 20:50 GMT
#273
Just got home, will catch up in a bit.

The Votes are pretty spread guys. Kinda goes me worrying at a first glace. Also, nothing going heavily on right now (in terms of moving things around) also got me thinking.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 21 2016 20:53 GMT
#274
On April 22 2016 05:45 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure why SL jeeps somehow avoiding people's lists, he's almost done the least amount in game and hasn't posted in forever.

Besides that I am curious how tumble has such a hard town read on gb in this situation?

Agreed with SL. He doesn't seem really here much, and that last post from him wasn't great either.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 20:55 GMT
#275
On April 22 2016 05:45 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure why SL jeeps somehow avoiding people's lists, he's almost done the least amount in game and hasn't posted in forever.

Besides that I am curious how tumble has such a hard town read on gb in this situation?

I highly value when people make perceptive points (aka good with non-obvious evidence) and GB has two good posts like that. Also not such a definitive read, perhaps I should have phrased it as "because he appears town."
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 20:55 GMT
#276
I do think dyh is a horrible lynch even if he is a low activity atm.

There are two posts I really like that I think shows a towny mindset.

The first is when he is paranoid of me because how I was getting behind koshi and dropped things when,he did.

And though pepple don't like when he's reexplaining his shape read I actually liked it. It showed a caring to not be misunderstood and I see town do that a million times mote than scum.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
April 21 2016 20:56 GMT
#277
On April 21 2016 06:20 Koshi wrote:
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On April 21 2016 05:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
are we still mad at me koshi? What do you think of LS?


On April 21 2016 05:14 Fidei86 wrote:
2/40

@TT do you 'kind of' agree with it or do you actually agree wh it. My opening wasn't long and FF's point wasn't complicated. Not sure I see much middle ground. It seems kind of a lame agreement-but-not-really from you. But I shall read the rest of your posts / the game before deciding for sure.

I got to p7 before my swim. But all I really noticed was LS was making points. So I should re-read from the start. Which I will.

Have you done the reading, Fiddy?

I forgot why I would be mad at you so no.

LS is ok for now. 3 good posts. No fluff. Seems honest. Pushes game forward. All based on his train of thought.
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On April 20 2016 23:48 LightningStrike wrote:
I did noticed but if FF doesn't post more chances are he's scum because I seen his lazy scum game before mind you it was a while ago hedecied he would rather play fall out 4 than playing scum. Also sl I just can't read him properly so I letting other people do it for me due to me misreading him hard when's town because I normally think he's scum nowadays >.<


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On April 20 2016 23:49 LightningStrike wrote:
I also starting to think HTS is scum because she picking a easy target history wise in me and she just saw me play in cell as scum so if she is mafia she got a perfect opportunity to do it here.

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On April 21 2016 01:05 LightningStrike wrote:
BTW Tumblewood is most likely town he done similar things in Storm and the latest Newbie game and got scumread for it in those games too.


Why would we kill this guy?


I'm using a whole post to call this read on LS bullshit. LS made probably more fluff posts than anyone and the last 2 of these "good posts" are just LS useing weak meta to justify an omgus scumread on HtS and a townread on Tumble.

The sad thing is that since this is Koshi I'm not sure if this read being terrible means anything...

Is this still your read on LS Koshi?

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In case you missed the subtext of this post...
No... I'm not finding anything towny about LS in this read-through either.
I can take that responsibility.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 21 2016 20:59 GMT
#278
My read on LS is that he is probably town and that I wont lynch him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 20:59 GMT
#279
Actually I just read gb filter wouldn't lynch him either but could be a super hard pocket so maybe tumble can be town for paying attention. Or at least not the lynch.

Kinda leaves,me where
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 21:02 GMT
#280
Bah phone cuts off

Leaves Mr where the pool is super small in

Shape
Ff
SL
Gumshoe
Fid

I haven't filtered all of them yet but I have reasons not to lynch into,everyone else for today who h is probably bad. And if I remember Initial reaction was gum was town so I'm sticking with that for Damdred gut feels trademark pending.

Which leaves shape, ff, SL, fid

Looking at did but I think I prefer a SL or ff lynch.
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