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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 21:44 GMT
#301
On April 22 2016 06:39 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 06:35 gumshoe wrote:
Haro,

town reads.

Lstrike/thor(voice I read posts/virp)

Seems like a lot of genuine effort put into things and people are saying hes not usually like that so from my personal exp thats a big sign of town. In terms of what hes done, picking a fight with hts seems unideal, regardless of his reasons, I would expect him to have an underdog facet going on with her as scum (killed before by her) the aggro doesnt really make sense unless he is genuinely paranoid/worried.

Damdred(starlord)

as I said earlier, would have expected him to pounce on me for what was a terrible case, I am also far far from the best player here so theres not much point.

I actively expect both townies and scummers to accuse me based off my play so far, but I dont see much point in town reading me.

Hts - (Magonigal)
same opinion as before, feels transparent and makes fair points. Dont think shes right about ls though

koshi (shelob)
Still not entirely sure what to make of him, but he is an active driving force and his role back on hts feels like a townie thing to do(ie scum would feel pressured to keep beating dead horses)

Shapelog(pickard)

seems happy and also confused/curios good townie mindset. I can follow his reasoning and I agree with his tt scum read.

gb (frank reynolds)

Last game we played dude was defined by low activity and calling me scum, hes keeping pace with my expectations.

------------------------------

end of town

---------------------

scum TICK TOCK (shibukai)

first attacks dyh for nitpicking me, (while finding kosh underwhelming for derp reasons)

hes initial list of scummers is just a great big pile of lurkers

then after dyh gets town read a bunch he comes back onto me even though little has changed since he trd me.

This kind of double backing feels like hes looking for whatever to murder. He also scum reads ls which puts him in mah bad books.

##vote tick tock




I do like this post the scum read feels slightly omgus but the town reads sort of make sense and if he gets lynched and is scum gives us a lot of info when he doesn't have to.

He's pretty town for this.


My issue with tick is not that he accused me, it's that he first town read me and then scum read me for what was kind of the same content. Maybe he just didn't read throughly the first time but his pounce followed by double back reads to me as hunting for fault.

Also sick is now doc holiday. We may now lynch him if there is no better target, I am used to far more activity from him and he seems a bit more defensive/reserved then usual
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 21:45 GMT
#302
Ls wasn't able to fake the emotion in cell, he gave a rather weak impression of it I had to push him into over and over.

So nah your wrong
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 21 2016 21:46 GMT
#303
I'm trusting damdred on LS for now
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 21 2016 21:46 GMT
#304
19/40 + 2/5

EBWOP - I mean I seriously and honestly do not understand why ANYBODY is townreading LS. Yes I've read both Damdred and Koshi's reasoning, but I strongly disagree.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 21:47 GMT
#305
aahhhhhh FF's filter is so bad
On April 20 2016 08:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think the only alignment indicative thing so far is gumshoe acting like there's been anything alignment indicative so far.

2

like what is this
this is so bad
and how did I not see it earlier
good times for all
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 21 2016 21:49 GMT
#306
I have a bunch of posts left wanna fight about it? Why is that bad?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 21:51 GMT
#307
Gum that's actually a really smart point. I like this gum person

Tt do you have a rebuttal for it? Why did you tr him then scum him for same things?

Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
April 21 2016 21:52 GMT
#308
On April 22 2016 06:29 Damdred wrote:
LS is town reading people for ok reasons, isn't being lazy.

Is going out of his way to scum read people and somewhat pushing a lynch.

Scum ls is the most passive person in the world and waits and sheep's is lazy and usually doesn't have scum reads.

Ie he is town here. Plus all his posts feel ok

On April 22 2016 06:31 Damdred wrote:
Plus he's being lynched atm and doesn't really care about surviving or giving up his push.

He's so town atm.

And no I don't think gum is a good lynch.


Well at least you have better reasons to townread him than most people...




@Gum

Meh. Though if my feelings regarding LS are infact unfounded then I do like your town list there.
I can take that responsibility.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 21 2016 21:54 GMT
#309
My tinfoil says that FF and HtS are scum together. Who the fuck knows though. It is my Plan B idea.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 21:54 GMT
#310
On April 22 2016 06:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
I have a bunch of posts left wanna fight about it? Why is that bad?

Bad because a) there were AI things there and b) gumshoe treats everything as if it's AI
good times for all
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 21 2016 21:55 GMT
#311
a) saying this without evidence is just blowing smoke b)Why am I supposed to know that?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 21 2016 21:55 GMT
#312
@koshi, Shape talking about himself a bunch while not being productive is indicative of a scum mindset. It implies that he is worried about how the thread is perceiving him, which is more likely to come from scum.

@the rest of you, Shape's read on me is seriously suspicious:
On April 22 2016 01:10 Shapelog wrote:

DYH: Nothing I am seeing is making think he is town or scum. The sheeping thing caught my eye, but makes sense if HTS is his top town read. Would like to see more out of him. Also his opinion on LS, since LS is the main one pushing Sky, his top town read.

I had just put suspicion on him, my doing so became a point of contention between HtS and Koshi(his top town read). He glazes over my pressure. His entire list post is yelling, "your right DYH, I'm going to fix what you just attacked me for". Which would be all well and good, but then I wouldn't be null to him. I would be scum pushing a bad wagon or I would be misguided town that should be reasoned with.
Guts? Determination? $5?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 21 2016 21:56 GMT
#313
I'm not sure everyone is still super spread out.

I 100% think we need,to consolidate on a lynch make reasoning known and no shenanigans.

I've said Why we should lynch sl. I suggest you vote him.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 21 2016 21:57 GMT
#314
##unvote
##vote Fecalfeast


I like my early read on this guy. And he really lacked real content for the entire cycle, while being around enough.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tumblewood
Profile Joined January 2016
United States3709 Posts
April 21 2016 21:59 GMT
#315
Voting sicklucker? I don't know why everyone switched all of a sudden.
Going now but will be back just before deadline.
good times for all
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 21 2016 21:59 GMT
#316
Damdred,

Is sicklucker more than a crapshoot?
I had a good night of sleep.
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 21 2016 22:00 GMT
#317
@HtS - I agree with your points against LS. However, the green flag in his play is his defending of TW against TT. I am struggling to see scum not defend themselves or find some new scummy things to push and instead defend a townread against apparently another townread. I could consolidate on LS, but I'm uncertain enough that he isn't my top lynch priority.
Guts? Determination? $5?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 21 2016 22:00 GMT
#318
sicklucker has been posting the last 13mins in the other game it seems.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/506344-a-normal-game-just-for-jat-3?page=91

That would be really a dick move to his scum partners.
I had a good night of sleep.
Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
April 21 2016 22:01 GMT
#319
On April 22 2016 06:44 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2016 06:39 Damdred wrote:
On April 22 2016 06:35 gumshoe wrote:
Haro,

town reads.

Lstrike/thor(voice I read posts/virp)

Seems like a lot of genuine effort put into things and people are saying hes not usually like that so from my personal exp thats a big sign of town. In terms of what hes done, picking a fight with hts seems unideal, regardless of his reasons, I would expect him to have an underdog facet going on with her as scum (killed before by her) the aggro doesnt really make sense unless he is genuinely paranoid/worried.

Damdred(starlord)

as I said earlier, would have expected him to pounce on me for what was a terrible case, I am also far far from the best player here so theres not much point.

I actively expect both townies and scummers to accuse me based off my play so far, but I dont see much point in town reading me.

Hts - (Magonigal)
same opinion as before, feels transparent and makes fair points. Dont think shes right about ls though

koshi (shelob)
Still not entirely sure what to make of him, but he is an active driving force and his role back on hts feels like a townie thing to do(ie scum would feel pressured to keep beating dead horses)

Shapelog(pickard)

seems happy and also confused/curios good townie mindset. I can follow his reasoning and I agree with his tt scum read.

gb (frank reynolds)

Last game we played dude was defined by low activity and calling me scum, hes keeping pace with my expectations.

------------------------------

end of town

---------------------

scum TICK TOCK (shibukai)

first attacks dyh for nitpicking me, (while finding kosh underwhelming for derp reasons)

hes initial list of scummers is just a great big pile of lurkers

then after dyh gets town read a bunch he comes back onto me even though little has changed since he trd me.

This kind of double backing feels like hes looking for whatever to murder. He also scum reads ls which puts him in mah bad books.

##vote tick tock




I do like this post the scum read feels slightly omgus but the town reads sort of make sense and if he gets lynched and is scum gives us a lot of info when he doesn't have to.

He's pretty town for this.


My issue with tick is not that he accused me, it's that he first town read me and then scum read me for what was kind of the same content. Maybe he just didn't read throughly the first time but his pounce followed by double back reads to me as hunting for fault.

Also sick is now doc holiday. We may now lynch him if there is no better target, I am used to far more activity from him and he seems a bit more defensive/reserved then usual


I did pretty clearly state that I was rereading the game and stuff...

At the start of the game I liked that you were putting out what felt like a lot of content. Reading it again it wasn't nearly as much as you backtracked off stuff as fast as you put it out there (re: your damdred case where you made like 5-6 points as to why it was bad in the same post you defended your vote not being a joke...)

Kinda uneasy now as well since you are just now showing up after quite a long absence for the last ~hr of the day and after there was the signs that maybe a wagon could get going on you.
I can take that responsibility.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
April 21 2016 22:01 GMT
#320
Sl should have posted more by now / : for..... Reasons I am not supposed to say exist.

Could kill ff as he's been active but lack luster but that is apparently his meta so watcha gonna do.

I probably won't lynch outside those 2 plus tick for today.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
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