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AH, he is talking about what tumble did ages ago. Sorry.
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i dont see why me not being the medic makes gumshoe an obvious medic. I know you didnt think I was the medic jat
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On April 26 2016 04:41 sicklucker wrote:
i dont see why me not being the medic makes gumshoe an obvious medic. I know you didnt think I was the medic jat
Because he softed being the medic. And then last night he made a gigantic post about the medic with the sole purpose of making mafia think he isn't the medic.
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On April 26 2016 03:57 justanothertownie wrote:So part 3 is about tumble + potential mafia 3: If you read tumbles filter you notice that he interacts/talks with almost everyone. Especially when he is about to be lynched he asks specific people to do stuff. He does this to everyone. Well, almost everyone. The people he does not do that to are Superbia and Sicklucker. For the biggest part of his filter (until LYLO basically) he more or less completely ignores Sicklucker. He interacts with Rels quite a bit gets pushed by him repeatedly. It doesn't seem very likely they are together. He even interacts/talks about Onegu. But not SL. All that he says early in the game about him is this: Show nested quote +On April 17 2016 05:59 Tumblewood wrote:
rels still picking the low-hanging fruit
didn't jat SR sicklucker a while back? i thought that was a pretty good read
rsoul you have some important questions to answer
protip: if it's lylo and i'm still alive, i'm probably scum because i never make it past d4 as town Which should indicate a mafia read, right? Still he doesn't really push that or reason it out at all. I know there is one post to rsoultin where he asks why she is going for GB and not for Onegu/SL but SL is just a listed name there. Later he completely "forgets" about this read though. Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 11:37 Tumblewood wrote:
SL: He's cocky in the right way, and his curiosity about the vig seems genuine.
SL suddenly town in a listpost where he has to be included. Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 02:59 Tumblewood wrote:
I feel comfortable about my town circle now, it's probably not changing anymore, bar a scum claim. My feeeels have been working overtime this game.
town
jat
rels
gum
ows
onegu
probably also town
sl
not town
shape
rsoul SL "probably" town. But not even as town as Onegu. Why? Who the fuck knows! Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 14:11 Tumblewood wrote:
I honestly don't know who we would lynch after Shape. I have six townreads and one scumread this game and these are pretty solid townreads.
Is the case against Rels just that one vote? Is the case on JAT just the low-hanging fruit argument? Is the case on Onegu just Onegu? These are all solid arguments but they also go against all the townie things those players have done and my feeeels are all I have to distinguish them.
I suppose the best way to go is Shape -> jat/rels -> rels/jat We need to get shape lynched and then Onegu/jat/rels. Where on earth has is SL? Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 11:53 Tumblewood wrote:
is this what a ten page filter feels like? are you also looking at my filter with similar dread because you don't want to read 200 posts? anyhoo, current status is
me gumshoe ows = 100% town
sl = 80% town
rels = 60% town
onegu = 20% town
i guess that leaves 40% of a townie for jat but that's not enough because he looks at least equal to rels if not townier, maybe they could take some towniness from sl and be split 55/55
btw don't read page 105 or most of 104 unless you want in on my ramblings which are spread out among 40 posts Ah, he is 80% town again suddenly. Why? No idea! Show nested quote +On April 23 2016 04:03 Tumblewood wrote:On April 23 2016 03:49 JustAnotherScummer wrote:On April 23 2016 03:44 Tumblewood wrote:
Hola compadres, I apologize for my absence.
It seems like the plan is to lynch Shape and then me. Fortunately we have a mislynch, but that means bringing Onegu to LyLo (bar a doc save) and if Rels is scum-- still not ruled out-- we lose.
So I advise that you don't lynch me and instead go for Onegu or Rels. I'd recommend ignoring everything Shape says today because his words are laced with wine. I mean, I did get drunk last night. But this post pleading not to get yourself voted off before I even flip makes no sense. Lets play a great game Tumble. If I am not scum, and tomorrow is lylo. Who would you vote and why? Also why can't SL be scum here as well? Onegu and then Rels the next day. I'm 80% sure no one else is scum. SL is not scum because he's totally in line with his town meta by being cocky all game and he's not triggering my spidey senses in any way. He's at most the third scummiest in the game and would just be a stupid person to lynch at this point. I guess for the age old reason that he is being cocky again. But then why was he only probably town in between? And where is the scumread from earlier gone? Basically tumble avoids talking about SL before LYLO (and what he says there is really really shallow) as much as he can and his read progression on him makes 0 fucking sense.
what? he talked a hell of alot about me and explained why im town. Thats why I started town reading him over rels
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Like there was this big 12 hours stretch when only me and tumble were in the thread
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On April 26 2016 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 04:41 sicklucker wrote:
i dont see why me not being the medic makes gumshoe an obvious medic. I know you didnt think I was the medic jat Because he softed being the medic. And then last night he made a gigantic post about the medic with the sole purpose of making mafia think he isn't the medic.
I didint even notice his soft. But then again I was not looking for a medic. Honestly I didnt think he was the medic for some reason but I forget why. Probably because he was pushing me after I was doing everything I can to not have the real medic cc
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On April 26 2016 04:48 sicklucker wrote:
Like there was this big 12 hours stretch when only me and tumble were in the thread
You mean that thing that happened AFTER the shape lynch? Because I am not counting that and everything he said there was really shallow anyways.
If that's not what you are talking about then show me quotes.
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Alright, I'm heading to work.
Still weighing whether or not to switch to tumble.
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On April 26 2016 04:50 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:On April 26 2016 04:41 sicklucker wrote:
i dont see why me not being the medic makes gumshoe an obvious medic. I know you didnt think I was the medic jat Because he softed being the medic. And then last night he made a gigantic post about the medic with the sole purpose of making mafia think he isn't the medic. I didint even notice his soft. But then again I was not looking for a medic. Honestly I didnt think he was the medic for some reason but I forget why. Probably because he was pushing me after I was doing everything I can to not have the real medic cc
You don't think the real medic would maybe push you when you are constantly pretending to be the medic and never dying?
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like jat tumbles most activity this cycle and last was explaining why I am town. He didnt just say "im 80%" out of no where. you should read his posts. He pocketed me hard altho now im not too sure
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On April 26 2016 04:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 04:50 sicklucker wrote:On April 26 2016 04:45 justanothertownie wrote:On April 26 2016 04:41 sicklucker wrote:
i dont see why me not being the medic makes gumshoe an obvious medic. I know you didnt think I was the medic jat Because he softed being the medic. And then last night he made a gigantic post about the medic with the sole purpose of making mafia think he isn't the medic. I didint even notice his soft. But then again I was not looking for a medic. Honestly I didnt think he was the medic for some reason but I forget why. Probably because he was pushing me after I was doing everything I can to not have the real medic cc You don't think the real medic would maybe push you when you are constantly pretending to be the medic and never dying?
no? I barely softed early anyway and the way I softed was saying "ya im not claiming to this dumb ass obvious mafia claim"
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On April 26 2016 04:52 sicklucker wrote:
like jat tumbles most activity this cycle and last was explaining why I am town. He didnt just say "im 80%" out of no where. you should read his posts. He pocketed me hard altho now im not too sure
Yes, he absolutely did. Those explanations came way way later.
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I also don't know why you are suddenly defending him.
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im sure im just paranoid but jat does really not want onegu lynched today
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On April 26 2016 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 04:52 sicklucker wrote:
like jat tumbles most activity this cycle and last was explaining why I am town. He didnt just say "im 80%" out of no where. you should read his posts. He pocketed me hard altho now im not too sure Yes, he absolutely did. Those explanations came way way later.
well I dont really want to make the decision now in 2 hours when im not feelin that great. We can do that shit tomorrow tumble has had streaks of townieness
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On April 26 2016 04:55 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 04:54 justanothertownie wrote:On April 26 2016 04:52 sicklucker wrote:
like jat tumbles most activity this cycle and last was explaining why I am town. He didnt just say "im 80%" out of no where. you should read his posts. He pocketed me hard altho now im not too sure Yes, he absolutely did. Those explanations came way way later. well I dont really want to make the decision now in 2 hours when im not feelin that great. We can do that shit tomorrow tumble has had streaks of townieness
No, we can NOT make this decision later. If Onegu is town we LOSE.
What the fuck man?
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On April 26 2016 04:29 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2016 23:16 Rels wrote:On April 15 2016 23:14 rsoultin wrote:+ Show Spoiler +No puedo decidir si me gusta matar SL o no...ayúdame ;o; El espacio entre su primera entrada y las otras era tan larga pero no sé como interpretar su lista de deseos sobre los jugadores :/ I can't decide whether or not I want to lynch SL...help me ;o; The time between his first post and the rest was pretty long but I don't know how to interpret that list of who he does and doesn't want to play with :/ SL is easy to read after a few days. Not a good D1 lynch. Seriously... where is this read?
its infront of your eyes
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On April 26 2016 04:04 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 04:03 Rels wrote:On April 26 2016 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:I would feel really really bad about letting Onegu wiggle out of this if he is with SL or Rels. But I also don't want to let tumble get away with this if he is with SL.  Bro I can't be scum. If ytou're not convinced read this: On April 25 2016 20:57 Rels wrote:On April 20 2016 23:58 rsoultin wrote:
also, just for the record, in regards to tumble
i understand why some might think he could be town here, and i'm not saying that i don't have any doubts. i do. he busted his balls eod d1 and some of that looked townie. some of it looked more like he was spinning his wheels since he just asked a lot of questions and didn't really try to direct the lynch anywhere
basically what it comes down to me is the bare bones stuff that should never come from town
- lying about why he said something
- refusing to vote a scumread to save himself but then voting a nullread to save himself
- reads not being informed by new info
i'll sit there and go...that kinda sounded townie, like his exchange with gum, or well you know odd that he's trying that hard and martyring for super if they're scum together even if super is rb, and the doubts will creep in
but especially that second point is just impossible for me to get past. town doesn't do that. knowing super was rb...scum definitely could. town wouldn't. and i can't let that slide and then eat crow end-game just cause sometimes he "feels" townie
besides which...super's play looked like burn-out. he looked like an rsoul in the storm game, who still felt too guilty to not even try (doc claim, palmar push) but had trouble motivating himself anyway. rsoul played kamikaze rsoul cause of shape and kuri, and intended to dance on the lynch platform as long as possible. super hoped town would let him slide and tried to get a doc cc...if his scum team was composed of people completely not trying i don't know that he would have even done that much
so i'm not saying that this CONFIRMS tw scum, but i am saying super's play doesn't make tw town at all. it's hard playing consecutive anti-town roles even for those of us who push through anyway lol ><
(and no this is not me trying to beat a dead horse, this is me trying to convince anyone who isn't yet convinced that we absolutely need to lynch tw next phase. if i die and you don't and he turns out to be scum i will be very angry! and if you just want to get me to stop harping on it >> that's an okay reason to get behind the lynch too lol) On April 21 2016 00:31 rsoultin wrote:
rels is more his filter just looks like a town filter lol the fluidity of reads changing with new info is there, the willingness to say he's wrong about things instead of dig in his heels, and the probing into a lot of different things in a way that to me at least looks more like trying to figure out thought process and intentions (i.e. alignments) rather than just going on the attack. yet he's still aggressive so it doesn't look too blendy
^ definition of a town filter from a player who knows how to play for me
tbf i know his scum game is good lol >< but i don't think it's quite that good. the fluidity and breadth in particular is pretty hard to accomplish as scum, at least for me Wow rsoul's N2 posts are way more detailed that I remembered. People going for the Onegu / Rels theory really needs to explain why I would kill rsoul when she hard townreads me and scumreads Tumble. Then shut the fuck up when they realize they can't explain it. Really, if you couldn't care to read these two walls, these two quotes are enough:
and no this is not me trying to beat a dead horse, this is me trying to convince anyone who isn't yet convinced that we absolutely need to lynch tw next phase. if i die and you don't and he turns out to be scum i will be very angry!
definition of a town filter from a player who knows how to play for me
tbf i know his scum game is good lol >< but i don't think it's quite that good. the fluidity and breadth in particular is pretty hard to accomplish as scum, at least for me
So it's either Onegu / Tumble or SL / Tumble if you are town. I'm really not convinced SL is scum over Onegu, but Tumble is a good lynch. Who the fuck knows. Maybe you guys thought she was the medic. I am sure you understand that I can't clear you for that.
Why, did she soft medic ?
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On April 26 2016 04:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2016 04:04 justanothertownie wrote:On April 26 2016 04:03 Rels wrote:On April 26 2016 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:I would feel really really bad about letting Onegu wiggle out of this if he is with SL or Rels. But I also don't want to let tumble get away with this if he is with SL. Bro I can't be scum. If ytou're not convinced read this: On April 25 2016 20:57 Rels wrote:On April 20 2016 23:58 rsoultin wrote:
also, just for the record, in regards to tumble
i understand why some might think he could be town here, and i'm not saying that i don't have any doubts. i do. he busted his balls eod d1 and some of that looked townie. some of it looked more like he was spinning his wheels since he just asked a lot of questions and didn't really try to direct the lynch anywhere
basically what it comes down to me is the bare bones stuff that should never come from town
- lying about why he said something
- refusing to vote a scumread to save himself but then voting a nullread to save himself
- reads not being informed by new info
i'll sit there and go...that kinda sounded townie, like his exchange with gum, or well you know odd that he's trying that hard and martyring for super if they're scum together even if super is rb, and the doubts will creep in
but especially that second point is just impossible for me to get past. town doesn't do that. knowing super was rb...scum definitely could. town wouldn't. and i can't let that slide and then eat crow end-game just cause sometimes he "feels" townie
besides which...super's play looked like burn-out. he looked like an rsoul in the storm game, who still felt too guilty to not even try (doc claim, palmar push) but had trouble motivating himself anyway. rsoul played kamikaze rsoul cause of shape and kuri, and intended to dance on the lynch platform as long as possible. super hoped town would let him slide and tried to get a doc cc...if his scum team was composed of people completely not trying i don't know that he would have even done that much
so i'm not saying that this CONFIRMS tw scum, but i am saying super's play doesn't make tw town at all. it's hard playing consecutive anti-town roles even for those of us who push through anyway lol ><
(and no this is not me trying to beat a dead horse, this is me trying to convince anyone who isn't yet convinced that we absolutely need to lynch tw next phase. if i die and you don't and he turns out to be scum i will be very angry! and if you just want to get me to stop harping on it >> that's an okay reason to get behind the lynch too lol) On April 21 2016 00:31 rsoultin wrote:
rels is more his filter just looks like a town filter lol the fluidity of reads changing with new info is there, the willingness to say he's wrong about things instead of dig in his heels, and the probing into a lot of different things in a way that to me at least looks more like trying to figure out thought process and intentions (i.e. alignments) rather than just going on the attack. yet he's still aggressive so it doesn't look too blendy
^ definition of a town filter from a player who knows how to play for me
tbf i know his scum game is good lol >< but i don't think it's quite that good. the fluidity and breadth in particular is pretty hard to accomplish as scum, at least for me Wow rsoul's N2 posts are way more detailed that I remembered. People going for the Onegu / Rels theory really needs to explain why I would kill rsoul when she hard townreads me and scumreads Tumble. Then shut the fuck up when they realize they can't explain it. Really, if you couldn't care to read these two walls, these two quotes are enough:
and no this is not me trying to beat a dead horse, this is me trying to convince anyone who isn't yet convinced that we absolutely need to lynch tw next phase. if i die and you don't and he turns out to be scum i will be very angry!
definition of a town filter from a player who knows how to play for me
tbf i know his scum game is good lol >< but i don't think it's quite that good. the fluidity and breadth in particular is pretty hard to accomplish as scum, at least for me
So it's either Onegu / Tumble or SL / Tumble if you are town. I'm really not convinced SL is scum over Onegu, but Tumble is a good lynch. Who the fuck knows. Maybe you guys thought she was the medic. I am sure you understand that I can't clear you for that. Why, did she soft medic ?
Not that I saw but I don't know what mafia thought. SL seems to have thought she was medic.
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