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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:02 GMT
#2701
On April 26 2016 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:
I would feel really really bad about letting Onegu wiggle out of this if he is with SL or Rels.

But I also don't want to let tumble get away with this if he is with SL.




Don't worry - we're all aware.
Retired.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 19:02 GMT
#2702
This is a good find. Gotta AFK for 1 hour, will fact check after that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
April 25 2016 19:02 GMT
#2703
It doesn't help that neither tumble nor SL did really anything today while Onegu was set to be lynched.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 19:03 GMT
#2704
On April 26 2016 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:
I would feel really really bad about letting Onegu wiggle out of this if he is with SL or Rels.

But I also don't want to let tumble get away with this if he is with SL.



Bro I can't be scum. If ytou're not convinced read this:
On April 25 2016 20:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2016 23:58 rsoultin wrote:
also, just for the record, in regards to tumble

i understand why some might think he could be town here, and i'm not saying that i don't have any doubts. i do. he busted his balls eod d1 and some of that looked townie. some of it looked more like he was spinning his wheels since he just asked a lot of questions and didn't really try to direct the lynch anywhere

basically what it comes down to me is the bare bones stuff that should never come from town
- lying about why he said something
- refusing to vote a scumread to save himself but then voting a nullread to save himself
- reads not being informed by new info

i'll sit there and go...that kinda sounded townie, like his exchange with gum, or well you know odd that he's trying that hard and martyring for super if they're scum together even if super is rb, and the doubts will creep in

but especially that second point is just impossible for me to get past. town doesn't do that. knowing super was rb...scum definitely could. town wouldn't. and i can't let that slide and then eat crow end-game just cause sometimes he "feels" townie

besides which...super's play looked like burn-out. he looked like an rsoul in the storm game, who still felt too guilty to not even try (doc claim, palmar push) but had trouble motivating himself anyway. rsoul played kamikaze rsoul cause of shape and kuri, and intended to dance on the lynch platform as long as possible. super hoped town would let him slide and tried to get a doc cc...if his scum team was composed of people completely not trying i don't know that he would have even done that much

so i'm not saying that this CONFIRMS tw scum, but i am saying super's play doesn't make tw town at all. it's hard playing consecutive anti-town roles even for those of us who push through anyway lol ><

(and no this is not me trying to beat a dead horse, this is me trying to convince anyone who isn't yet convinced that we absolutely need to lynch tw next phase. if i die and you don't and he turns out to be scum i will be very angry! and if you just want to get me to stop harping on it >> that's an okay reason to get behind the lynch too lol)

Show nested quote +
On April 21 2016 00:31 rsoultin wrote:
rels is more his filter just looks like a town filter lol the fluidity of reads changing with new info is there, the willingness to say he's wrong about things instead of dig in his heels, and the probing into a lot of different things in a way that to me at least looks more like trying to figure out thought process and intentions (i.e. alignments) rather than just going on the attack. yet he's still aggressive so it doesn't look too blendy

^ definition of a town filter from a player who knows how to play for me

tbf i know his scum game is good lol >< but i don't think it's quite that good. the fluidity and breadth in particular is pretty hard to accomplish as scum, at least for me

Wow rsoul's N2 posts are way more detailed that I remembered. People going for the Onegu / Rels theory really needs to explain why I would kill rsoul when she hard townreads me and scumreads Tumble. Then shut the fuck up when they realize they can't explain it. Really, if you couldn't care to read these two walls, these two quotes are enough:
Show nested quote +

and no this is not me trying to beat a dead horse, this is me trying to convince anyone who isn't yet convinced that we absolutely need to lynch tw next phase. if i die and you don't and he turns out to be scum i will be very angry!

Show nested quote +

definition of a town filter from a player who knows how to play for me

tbf i know his scum game is good lol >< but i don't think it's quite that good. the fluidity and breadth in particular is pretty hard to accomplish as scum, at least for me


So it's either Onegu / Tumble or SL / Tumble if you are town. I'm really not convinced SL is scum over Onegu, but Tumble is a good lynch.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 25 2016 19:03 GMT
#2705
Alright see you in 1 hour.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
April 25 2016 19:03 GMT
#2706
And now that tumble is in danger again he is magically back again. This is so awful.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
April 25 2016 19:04 GMT
#2707
On April 26 2016 04:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2016 04:00 justanothertownie wrote:
I would feel really really bad about letting Onegu wiggle out of this if he is with SL or Rels.

But I also don't want to let tumble get away with this if he is with SL.



Bro I can't be scum. If ytou're not convinced read this:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2016 20:57 Rels wrote:
On April 20 2016 23:58 rsoultin wrote:
also, just for the record, in regards to tumble

i understand why some might think he could be town here, and i'm not saying that i don't have any doubts. i do. he busted his balls eod d1 and some of that looked townie. some of it looked more like he was spinning his wheels since he just asked a lot of questions and didn't really try to direct the lynch anywhere

basically what it comes down to me is the bare bones stuff that should never come from town
- lying about why he said something
- refusing to vote a scumread to save himself but then voting a nullread to save himself
- reads not being informed by new info

i'll sit there and go...that kinda sounded townie, like his exchange with gum, or well you know odd that he's trying that hard and martyring for super if they're scum together even if super is rb, and the doubts will creep in

but especially that second point is just impossible for me to get past. town doesn't do that. knowing super was rb...scum definitely could. town wouldn't. and i can't let that slide and then eat crow end-game just cause sometimes he "feels" townie

besides which...super's play looked like burn-out. he looked like an rsoul in the storm game, who still felt too guilty to not even try (doc claim, palmar push) but had trouble motivating himself anyway. rsoul played kamikaze rsoul cause of shape and kuri, and intended to dance on the lynch platform as long as possible. super hoped town would let him slide and tried to get a doc cc...if his scum team was composed of people completely not trying i don't know that he would have even done that much

so i'm not saying that this CONFIRMS tw scum, but i am saying super's play doesn't make tw town at all. it's hard playing consecutive anti-town roles even for those of us who push through anyway lol ><

(and no this is not me trying to beat a dead horse, this is me trying to convince anyone who isn't yet convinced that we absolutely need to lynch tw next phase. if i die and you don't and he turns out to be scum i will be very angry! and if you just want to get me to stop harping on it >> that's an okay reason to get behind the lynch too lol)

On April 21 2016 00:31 rsoultin wrote:
rels is more his filter just looks like a town filter lol the fluidity of reads changing with new info is there, the willingness to say he's wrong about things instead of dig in his heels, and the probing into a lot of different things in a way that to me at least looks more like trying to figure out thought process and intentions (i.e. alignments) rather than just going on the attack. yet he's still aggressive so it doesn't look too blendy

^ definition of a town filter from a player who knows how to play for me

tbf i know his scum game is good lol >< but i don't think it's quite that good. the fluidity and breadth in particular is pretty hard to accomplish as scum, at least for me

Wow rsoul's N2 posts are way more detailed that I remembered. People going for the Onegu / Rels theory really needs to explain why I would kill rsoul when she hard townreads me and scumreads Tumble. Then shut the fuck up when they realize they can't explain it. Really, if you couldn't care to read these two walls, these two quotes are enough:

and no this is not me trying to beat a dead horse, this is me trying to convince anyone who isn't yet convinced that we absolutely need to lynch tw next phase. if i die and you don't and he turns out to be scum i will be very angry!


definition of a town filter from a player who knows how to play for me

tbf i know his scum game is good lol >< but i don't think it's quite that good. the fluidity and breadth in particular is pretty hard to accomplish as scum, at least for me


So it's either Onegu / Tumble or SL / Tumble if you are town. I'm really not convinced SL is scum over Onegu, but Tumble is a good lynch.

Who the fuck knows. Maybe you guys thought she was the medic. I am sure you understand that I can't clear you for that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
April 25 2016 19:07 GMT
#2708
Basically:

SL+Rels: Possible but I don't think we really can win in this case. Disregarding it.
Onegu+Rels: One of the realistic scenarios.
Tumble+Rels: Possible but rather unlikely due to repeated pushing/bussing and interactions.
Onegu+SL: Possible.
Tumble+SL: One of the realistic scenarios.
Tumble + Onegu: Possible but it just feels too easy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
April 25 2016 19:11 GMT
#2709
So we are at:

Onegu+Rels / Onegu+SL / Tumble+SL /Tumble+Onegu

with the bolded one being the risk about lynching Onegu.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:12 GMT
#2710
There were more than a few instances where I thought SL's pushing on onegu was kinda scummy.
The bolded makes a ton of sense to me tbh.
Retired.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
April 25 2016 19:12 GMT
#2711
It's so annoying to be one of the cleared people. The game is so much easier for you 4. And still noone besides me does really any work here. Except for Rels maybe.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:16 GMT
#2712
I did stuff.
I just didn't wall up about it.
>:|
Retired.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
April 25 2016 19:17 GMT
#2713
On April 26 2016 04:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I did stuff.
I just didn't wall up about it.
>:|

You are confirmed and therefore irrelevant/in the same boat as me.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:20 GMT
#2714
Right.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 25 2016 19:21 GMT
#2715
Man letting onegu live here feels so stupid.
Retired.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
April 25 2016 19:29 GMT
#2716
On April 15 2016 23:16 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2016 23:14 rsoultin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
No puedo decidir si me gusta matar SL o no...ayúdame ;o; El espacio entre su primera entrada y las otras era tan larga pero no sé como interpretar su lista de deseos sobre los jugadores :/


I can't decide whether or not I want to lynch SL...help me ;o; The time between his first post and the rest was pretty long but I don't know how to interpret that list of who he does and doesn't want to play with :/

SL is easy to read after a few days. Not a good D1 lynch.

Seriously... where is this read?
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 25 2016 19:29 GMT
#2717
An entire page of spam is not cool, don't do it



Day 4 Vote Count

Onegu: (5) Sicklucker, Tumblewood, Rels, ObiWanShinobi, JustAnotherTownie,
Tumblewood (1) Onegu




Currently Onegu is set to be lynched
until deadline.

ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
April 25 2016 19:32 GMT
#2718
On April 26 2016 04:29 Fecalfeast wrote:
An entire page of spam is not cool, don't do it



Day 4 Vote Count

Onegu: (5) Sicklucker, Tumblewood, Rels, ObiWanShinobi, JustAnotherTownie,
Tumblewood (1) Onegu




Currently Onegu is set to be lynched
until deadline.


There isn't a page like that anywhere. Fuck off.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 25 2016 19:34 GMT
#2719
24 posts in a row by my count
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16343 Posts
April 25 2016 19:35 GMT
#2720
Where did you learn to count?
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