EPTTL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3
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On March 10 2016 10:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Police keeps arresting me because my reads are too sexy. cringe | ||
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oh palmer... how has koshi not raged over this yet. MAFIA | ||
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the best player imo + Show Spoiler + myself | ||
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On March 24 2016 08:31 LightningStrike wrote: Superbia don't you think it's a little early for a vote? Also I had decided to explore the TL Database and long a behold gumshoe is a vet O_o mafia.. maybe.. 50/50 | ||
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On March 24 2016 08:44 LightningStrike wrote: Also Superbia is super tryhard this game I think this like a first unless he did the same thing in Titanic I Had a Cunning Plan but I liking it so far although I don't agree with such a early vote. and what did this teach you? | ||
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On March 24 2016 08:54 Shapelog wrote: Nice way of saying null, without saying null. What did you find interesting in it btw? incorrect. 50% chance of being mafia is very high. Thats the equivalent of a very strong day 1 scum read. I was probably talking out of my ass off one tone post tho | ||
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On March 24 2016 09:01 Kurumi wrote: People should slow the hell down, I am astonished with the role talking and people manage to create another page of it. I see nothing wrong with Superbia's early vote on gumshoe. When did sicklucker say anything about gumshoe? He has vote on him and no posts to back it up. i found him pretty scummy because he choose to focus on slam. I think thats very scummy. I have played like 20 games with slam and stopped trying to figure him out in like the second one. He claimed to have played with him quite a bit. Also it was like 1 hour in and i like da presure! | ||
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On March 24 2016 09:51 Vivax wrote: After agreeing with super on gum for the slamtalk SL already strikes bridges to LS alignment in a way I find myself agreeing with. LS is being timid and for some reason thinks it's too early for voting and looks up something irrelevant on gumshoe. Reminder: This isn't IML , no reason to think any vote could be too early. Scumlean LS and townlean SL. I have been scum with Ls like 2 or three times. I think this is his scum game so far. But its a very small sample size im only on page like 12. I Can read this kid better then anyone I think | ||
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On March 24 2016 11:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Ritoky might be scum for bluehunting. There is nothing else in this thread that I care about. hum you too did i misshat? I dont usually miss these things | ||
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On March 24 2016 12:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I think SL is town because his thought process felt a bit more nuanced and energetic at points compared to the last game I played with him where he was scum. ya screw that game | ||
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On March 24 2016 12:33 rsoultin wrote: sl is town when he bothers to read my cancer posts ^^ he knows this is how i read him but i'd still bet a limb (prob? i like my limbs lol ><) that even knowing i'd notice if he's not reading my posts he still won't be able to motivate himself to do it if he's scum  ez lyfe no one can tucker my mafia alighment attention span out quite like you | ||
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On March 24 2016 12:38 ritoky wrote: wow. am i the only one to roll vt? or did i overestimate palmar's laziness and he named every vt differently? cuz currently i only have 3 people as possible vt..... ok i caught this one! | ||
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On March 24 2016 12:38 rsoultin wrote:  talking to myseeeeeellllf sl, sl, sl! whatcha think of rit? rolecop! =] | ||
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On March 24 2016 12:56 LightningStrike wrote: .......No seriously how is he confirmed town? he took a line from your playbook | ||
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On March 24 2016 16:55 ritoky wrote: y'know gumshoe. you sound like a nice dude who is frustrated, and you're new, and you seem to be trying really hard which is an admirable quality. so i will acquiesce to you for 1 post...to a degree....with a caveat...alright roll out dem god d1 readz: We Dem Readz Vivax + Show Spoiler + tryhard mode engaged, cares, noticing small details and making a fuss about them instead of painting in broad strokes sicklucker + Show Spoiler + yo, cuz he ain't who he was last time and also he went deep for that pocket sudden flip of read on me when he had moment of clarity. i am yours baby, riding in your pocket protector until you flub up gumshoe + Show Spoiler + foot -> mouth + can't see how town i am + early effort + frustration = newer town, get fukt my newbdar has been amazing recently but y'know i suck as town so w/e superbia + Show Spoiler + upgraded to full green after consideration. the superbia of my mind lacks proper cojones to claim not VT as mafia and then do some stupidly bad retraction non-retraction stuff. probably town cuz too risky that early as mafia, doesn't strike me as a risk taker as mafia justanothertownie + Show Spoiler + called what i was doing silly at what felt like standard jat timing, not too soon, not too late, and proper levels of shitting on it, not making a deal out of it. hate his hang back d1 style but he does it as both alignments so meh obiwanshinobi + Show Spoiler + i love being told to go fuck myself, it makes me read people town generally rsoultin + Show Spoiler + she isn't advancing the game, she slandered me for bad raisins, and she is trying to berate me into playing better which makes me wanna play worse. if she votes on me and goes back on her standard read then she is probably red. also stop defending LS -.- like srsly guy is intentionally trying to do different things and is probably aware of what he is doing and you're still defending him for old reasons even though he stated expressly he is trying to fuck with his standard of play...STAHHHHHPPPPP damdred + Show Spoiler + this read may not have stuck after i realized VT may have diff names or there's so few of us that my strat works like doo doo; except damdred's level of general objection was so low that i feel like it is probably true anywayz. also him saying my picture was boring was both hurtful and out of character since he know outside of trying to be funny (how is a random car picture funny?) my pictures usually have a function. lightningstrike + Show Spoiler + nothing has changed: On March 24 2016 10:22 ritoky wrote: usage of "weird" and "odd" assume a conclusion before asking for clarification having no stated response or conclusion to the clarification not thinking vivax noticing small details is townie over defensive response to vivax pressure -> immediately to "you're like hf trying to ml me" questions that don't lead to fruitful places still applies tumblewood + Show Spoiler + opportune pile on time when previously holding an opinion of "NAI", not doing a whole lot in general but specifically to advance his read on me from NAI to scum -> pure reactionary piling, not checking off a lot of my "things newer players do as town" boxes; thus might be the other alignment if you didn't make the list sorry, try harder next time to make me feel something about you in my loins. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yrY0pW2.gif) | ||
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On March 24 2016 19:24 Koshi wrote: Confirmed Town + Show Spoiler + Likely Town + Show Spoiler + gumshoe (this guy is obvious town, if you pursue him you are mafia) (yes, I placed him here and typed that before he got shot by a baddie, who shot him? If it as ritoky he is the D1 lynch) Alakaslam (I take it you are also a dayvig? Shoot ritoky please) Maybe town + Show Spoiler + Vivax Not going to lynch Town + Show Spoiler + rsoultin Tumblewood Superbia (really disliked that first list post, otherwise you would be higher) Null + Show Spoiler + VayneAuthority Stutters695 sandroba ObiWanShinobi Rels justanothertownie Tictock Shapelog Tubesock Won't lynch right now Mafia + Show Spoiler + Kurumi Damdred sicklucker ( Didn't like how you saw something on LS and then weakened your position on LS by saying the 50/50 wasn't a real 50/50) LightningStrike (Can rsoultin explain to me why this guy is town?) Maybe Mafia + Show Spoiler + Likely Mafia + Show Spoiler + Confirmed Mafia rikoky Yeah, he shot him, should have posted my reads 1 hour ago before I wasted that hour rereading everything. I might have been able to fucking pressure ritoky out of his ridiculous opportunistic shot. But between all the bluehunting and shooting the most obvious town that would be confirmed town VERY QUICKLY due to sheer willingness to play the game, in a game that doesn't allow for replacements and has a bunch of people who didn't post anything yet, ritoky always needs to die here. (I already hear the incoming retarded arguments that "ritoky is town because why would he do it as mafia?" I agree, last game he did have the decency to wait till N2 (and all vets died) to take an opportunistic shot as mafia, but I DO NOT GIVE A SINGLE FUCK. Town cannot lynch these kind of selfish and frankly retarded plays to go unpunished. He should be mafia, but if he isn't, he needs to die as well. koshi dumb tell confirmed? would not lynch | ||
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What we dont know is if slam had to fire 4 hours into the game because doing that was so bad that I think it was part of his role. | ||
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On March 25 2016 01:49 justanothertownie wrote: What are you talking about? That he assumed ritoky shot? How would a dumbtell like this mean anything unless Koshi is mafia together with slam? It really doesn't. I realize that part but it just sounded so like town koshi | ||
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On March 24 2016 22:52 Superbia wrote: Actually my problem lies with Koshi's push, and it doesn't necessarily directly relates to Koshi's alignment, but more to the fact that I feel he may have been spewed by mafia (i.e. people are calling him town too quickly). I will elaborate. Koshi's "anger-push" on Ritoky was completely unfounded, as Ritoky had gum high in his town-list (a post that was posted pretty much before the shot), as a result of his post (and a small number of other circumstances), Ritoky would've never shot gum. This is somewhat obvious from first glace, and completely obvious after looking deeper into it (even without considering Slam's soft). I felt that the emotion behind Koshi's post was townie, but the content was absolutely not. It was undirected and based on nothing close to logic. I believe that this does not mean Koshi is mafia, but rather that the people who piled on to calling Koshi town that quickly are more suspect (i.e. I'm the first to bring this up). this was kinda what I ment by the dumbtell jat. Rit just posted gum was town. Then koshi started going full retard with dumbemotion that I felt as townie | ||
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yes I was like (lol ima vote this kid) but I obv read filters before I do that because im like obv town with 9x the filter of any scum game recently | ||
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On March 24 2016 23:00 Kurumi wrote: Wasn't me. Dibs on Slam, he literally spammed the thread saying that he is going to kill someone. Also, bollocks. I really was wrong. I really was too harsh. I wanted to keep up with that and attack Koshi, but then he decided to play his Town game and break all the vows and rave around. So Koshi moved from a scum-leaning to town-leaning in my eyes. Play after gumshoe's death and his relentlessness about ritoky only proves that. Also, don't do the list only Koshi, because what I am doing right now is giving you a pass for now, not forever. As for ritoky: Holy shit dude, your plan... wasn't that... great. Yeah, you've done that and I believe you, but that brought a lot more harm than anything else. As a person who has hosted games and has played in fair share of them, not only hosts give the Vanilla Townie name (and sometimes more) they also offer fakeclaims for every role under the sun. Your argument that revealing VTs would create an impossible-to-combat Town Circle is also wrong, because, well, your assumption was that people who know the name will behave accordingly... which is people being VTs and Mafia. I think your play is more indicative of a naive townie than a scum. If you were scum, you'd be more blunt about the claim. Maybe claim the name in some disorted way, maybe hint it more strongly, I have no idea, but for sure you'd try to fish for someone disagreeing with you. Another slight-town read. Back to Slam. If he were Mafia and that was a Mafia shot, all I'd see now should be "LYNCH KURUMI" and it is not the case. So it means the shot was not used as a means to incriminate me or cast doubt, or leverage it in any way. While I was not the only one voting gumshoe, I was the person pushing the hardest since the very first post of mine. Is there a chance that Slam was bluffing/trolling/whatever and Mafia decided to use that to kill Shoe and let the responsibility for the kill just land on Slam? There's no one on Slam either, yet... So it seems that this kill went through without any group agenda, leading me to believe that it was Town KP, be it Slam or anyone else. It just lacks follow-up, both ways (against me and against Slam) have not been taken by anyone. I think Slam is town. So that's it for the current things. I will look up shoe's filter and wander around in thread as well, because I need another shot of Scumus Readus for both this shift and another or I'll goddamn die. good post | ||
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On March 24 2016 23:07 Superbia wrote: Who wants to talk to me about the push on gumshoe/timeline? I'm too lazy to run through the whole thing myself atm. Someone give me some motivation. Starts like this: 1. Superbia starts push on gumshoe for bad opening post and some troll-bullshit. 2? Sicklucker joins push. 4? shapelog calls superbia out for troll-bullshit. - shapelog has gum as null - shapelog has superbia as lean-town I mean it makes you slightly more likely to be mafia because he was town..? maybe? But you were also willing to push early which is a town trait its not like as mafia you would expect gumdrop the be a wagon from 1 hour into the game untill the last. Your post about koshi was good im sure you pocketed me again see you at final 3 | ||
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On March 25 2016 00:15 justanothertownie wrote: I don't have a town circle at all (I also do not have a solid townread on Koshi yet - however your read on him is completely irrelevant for the argument that you are asking questions you shouldn't need to ask because those are about his general play and not his play in this game). So no, she is not super high in there. I am not stupid enough to townread rsoultin this early in the game. My point is that I do not see why anyone would scumread her for what she has posted so far. You aren't automatically scum for going after her. That depends on your reasoning. u mad? | ||
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On March 25 2016 02:25 Damdred wrote: SL bad at reading me as usual. Anyway not much interesting is happening so far shape looks a bit more town he had some ok thoughts at least. so much so much has happened and you still dont have a "read" on me | ||
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On March 25 2016 02:28 Shapelog wrote: Yes lets start by you giving us reasons upon which you find them sus. other than they can defend one another as either aligment. Ls saying its too early to vote his own scum read. Dandred having him at the top of his town list is something I know a mafia dandred would do regardless of Ls's role. ALso him not even mentioning me when me /ls.dandred were just mafia together and im so obviously different this game and town. | ||
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On March 25 2016 02:29 LightningStrike wrote: Ugh he was town in Star Wars. That was your last scum game you silly goof ball  dont worry koshi still thinks I was mafia in pyp | ||
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besides like you think I read ls the best (i didnt lie last game as mafia). And i was getting mafia vibes so like I have a hard time seeing where these #1 TOWNREAD vibes you have are coming from. That an you completely ignored my obvious town play (you should probably know my mafia play better then anyone currently) made you an easy vote | ||
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But you completely overlooked that post and said "nothing important happened" and continued to ignore me | ||
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On March 25 2016 03:51 justanothertownie wrote: I find the lack of sandroba disturbing. oh ya i remember this guy. hes vivax level scum player lets lynch him | ||
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On March 25 2016 04:32 ritoky wrote: rsoul is mafia. i agree | ||
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On March 25 2016 05:04 LightningStrike wrote: Elaborate on sicklucker please I honestly didn't care for his stuff so far atm. holy shit you have a read on me for the first time in after 30 games played together? | ||
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Like why would he do this if he cant read me? It makes no sense. He would go sure ok i Have no idea thats what a town ls would do | ||
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On March 25 2016 06:30 Rels wrote: This does NOT matter. What matters is there was no town motivation to day KP so early. But since he had to shoot D1 it could make sense maybe. Still weird he didn't shoot an inactive IMO but not confirmed scum. er hearing slams response im more suspect. he had over 38 more hours to make a decision.. | ||
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On March 25 2016 06:57 ritoky wrote: i spelled it out multiple times, but sure. i am vt, i know nothing about the setup since it is closed. i have been in closed setups that are basically the same as a normal game and closed setups with 20 players, 19 of which are roles or mafia. i wanted to gauge the nature of how many PRs were in the game while locating all the VTs and narrowing down my potential mafia greatly. so i angle shot using the name of the role, assuming all town roles are named the same thing and that mafia either didn't get fake role pms or were too careless to reference them and understand what i was doing before it was already too late. the goal was to utilize the picture of the expedition, have people understand it, realize expedition was also in their role pm, and start forming a coalition of townies who understood we were all town based on the understanding of the expedition. from there you have a large block of people who identify eachother as near lock town and there is a vast amount of control over the day phase because of it as well as a smaller pool of people for potentially mafia. it forces mafia into an awkward spot where they have to choose to not PR hunt and leave PRs alive thus costing them a great deal or leave this large block of semi-confirmed townies alive and concede a ton of day phase control. the mafia lose something large either way. i think it is a pretty well devised plan, apparently i am alone. we know this but since theres no point hiding it anymore can you summarize what this told you preferably without telling the thread the non obvious vts | ||
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On March 25 2016 07:01 ritoky wrote: i mean on some level i confirmed myself as town, which is cool; but overall the execution was bad and all i felt i got from it was that superbia might be VT, damd felt red or blue, slam wasn't vt, and SL pocketed me. the results were bad, but the plan was not. ya you outed more vts then that not even gonna elaborate tho | ||
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On March 25 2016 07:14 Koshi wrote: I won't lie. ritoky is mafia. i do think ritoky likes to bluehunt and is the kind of person who loves to sacrifice himself as mafia for the greater good. Like gb he often tunnels this and it turns out to be negative for his mafia team alot of the time. But I dont think a mafia would come up with this premeditated plan. Also from my experience very few hosts give fakeclaims pre or at the start of the game. They typically give them apon request. I cant think of any games where fakeclaims are given at the start of a scum qt. Maybe some hosted by artanis So I do think for dirty bad meta reasons that ritoky is town in this spot | ||
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On March 25 2016 07:59 justanothertownie wrote: Are you 2 seriously arguing over the completely irrelevant math of a number ritoky obviously just made up to prove his point? Wtf. ROFL | ||
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But if you wanna talk about it who voted him after me? and do you think they were just voting for 90% reactions like me or do you seriously think they thought gumdrop would be lynched | ||
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On March 25 2016 15:40 sandroba wrote: On page 13 and have a good town read on gumshoe and superbia. Leaning town on ls. Null on damdred and ritoky, don't know what to make of kurumi, but if you put a gun to my head I would probably say it's more likely he is town. A bit iffy on shapelog, something about how he is focusing on things that don't matter imo maybe. Still think sicklucker is probably our best bet so far. let the record show sandroba is the only person on TL net ever to get me mislynched ever.... And it was a really stupid spot where he shouldnt have gotten away with it in some cell game | ||
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On March 25 2016 23:05 rsoultin wrote: quite frankly, y'all are wasting time even discussing me today ^^ and sand is probably town, which is good i suppose but also makes his read on me especially annoying given it consists of - her scumread she should be reading town (i'm gonna laugh so hard at you scrubs when i'm dead and rit wins the game) and - she didn't react to slam (??? um, what?) like i know you think i'm the scum god after carnival, sandy, but really? lol >< that's pretty pathetic like, seriously, i really want to lynch scum!rit here or at the very least have someone actually discuss with me why i'm wrong (so i can show you the light >>)...also down for lynching tumble or shape...wouldn't protest slam the reason i was asking him about his role is it seemed like he couldn't change his shot once submitted given his posting...and that seemed like a 3rd party type role to me rather than a town one cause what sort of bastard host locks in your shot on d1? i honestly don't think he's scum either, cause the enthusiasm resembled more his play in greymist's game lol >< which was what i was referring to in my first reads post if he's 3rd party (which seems likely given this "i don't know") bit coupled with his other posts, he's not a bad lynch either i'd prefer scum though can we lynch rit now? :/ ALong with everything else succmmy about her I think this fake cockyness is her scum trait. Shes sort of cocky as town but in another way I think. shes stupidly confident in her reads not her being a bad lynch. I dont even know what her reads are here | ||
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On March 25 2016 23:36 rsoultin wrote: i still think you're probably 3p (was thinking maybe even scum earlier, but saw something that makes me think otherwise) and so i'm not terribly interested in you tbh lol >< i could say the same thing about you avoiding me how long are you planning on hiding your reads? I think the only people who would truly think someone is 3p is a mafia in an open setup. A town would just think they are mafia and asume there is no 3rd party. but a mafia would see dandred playing weird look at their qt and see hes not in said qt. Knowing dandreds not mafia that mafia would then know that said dandred is third party. | ||
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On March 26 2016 00:24 rsoultin wrote: i'm not sick lol >< i'm just back in school. tues and thurs are my heavy days and i'm not sure why you're making excuses for me anyway, tbh -_- damdy just is very sideline which isn't completely outside his town wheelhouse, tbh, but i'm just not getting the clicks i usually do when we're both reading the same game...with a few exceptions here and there like our read on you like it's an itch that he's too disinterested that could also be because he's been sick or it's just a large game, but that's why i thought maybe 3rd party...i'm not actually seeing anything that goes counter to his usual mindset in a game (which would have me riding him like rit) so def not lynching him today if your town hes trying to pocket you with his cuteness | ||
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w/e i have a green check on ritoky + Show Spoiler + maybe | ||
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On March 26 2016 00:49 LightningStrike wrote: List of Town that I got from my filter: Gumshoe: Flipped plus I was startign to get town vibes from him after some interactions with him. Superbia: Despite falling off he still was pretty tryhard trying to solve the game. JAT: Meta he pointing smart things and dumb things and exlpains why they are dumb or smart. Koshi: Angry Koshi is Town Koshi from experience with him. Damdred: Seems okay content wise not lynching him Day 1 just hope he would produce even townier rainbows. Tina(rsoultin if people need her TL name): Guts and feeling says town on her tone. Shape: Little spammy town maybe idk he kinda weird now that he played as scum but it feels innocent? Slam: If I wrong on any of my townreads it's slam and he would probably be 3rd Party due to his role. List of Null: Lurkers: Duh although stutters had 1 post and not returned after that post. sicklucker: Rip ability to read him. ahhh..? did you just call me town? im shocked | ||
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maybe I just wanted to call him cute ^_^ | ||
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On March 26 2016 00:55 rsoultin wrote: uh huh. except i'm not getting strong scum vibes from him, just "off" vibes who is scum other than me sl? i dont know maybe the dude im voting named dandred | ||
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On March 26 2016 01:03 rsoultin wrote: meh you never want to lynch who i want to lynch :/ damdy slipped up on whining about not being listened to...it was subtle, but it was there. i doubt he's scum though he did say he'd try to adjust his meta. of course, what i saw in cell was awful lol >< so i'm not really sure he's capable of it. same with ls ya but when were both town which I think only ever happened in one game I was the one who was right =] (cough cough holyflare) | ||
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On March 26 2016 01:08 rsoultin wrote: this is true >> that was also over a year ago although maybe it's not true idk i think we've both been town in other games haven't we? pretty sure not together I have a sick memory. Weve played probably 3-4 games since and one of us was always mafia | ||
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On March 26 2016 01:22 rsoultin wrote: rit and kuru aren't boring >> they're scum you should vote kuru with me if you're too daft to vote rit i dont even know who he is or have any read on kura. theres like alot of people in this gam | ||
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On March 26 2016 01:31 LightningStrike wrote: Learn to read I said null not town for you -_- you listeed towns and then put me at the bottom of a town list | ||
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On March 26 2016 02:01 Vivax wrote: We can probably lynch TickTock without any remorse if he doesn't show up. we can probably let him get mod killed... | ||
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On March 26 2016 02:13 Koshi wrote: My current guesses: ritoky/sandroba/sicklucker/tumbleweed Do we know how many mafia there are? hell koshi there can be two mafia teams! think about it! how mad would you be, be honest? | ||
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my reasoning is because he randomly wanted to policy lynch sar when I have no problem finding scummy people that I want to murder. Theres like 5 of them | ||
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On March 26 2016 06:57 justanothertownie wrote: Very helpful SL. not sure if serious | ||
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On March 26 2016 07:06 justanothertownie wrote: If you were town and smart and cared about tube not being lynched you would have brought it up when a switch would have been realistic instead of at the last minute. i brought it up with like 20-30 mins left. As if no switches have ever happened in that timeframe on tl.net do not open if you are belwo the age of 18 or easy offended. + Show Spoiler + ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME RIGHT NOW? SHENANIES HAPPEN IT LITERRALY EVERRY FUCKING TL.NET GAME EVER | ||
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On March 26 2016 07:08 Shapelog wrote: Why are so many people saying they are going to flip? All you doing is making mafia decided wither or not they want to WIFOM you or not. dont worry im the wifmo king i know what im doing! | ||
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like she was not even here for the deadline at least tubesock made it clear he could not make it | ||
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On March 26 2016 22:16 sandroba wrote: yes. rsoul's wagon looks to me like it's made of all town. the last voters on rsoul's counter wagon i think are very suspicious. looks like a lock to me. this alot | ||
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like this was koshis reason for scum reading me. Thats actually the dumbest reason I have ever heard because Ls was still one of two people I pushed before the wagons were formed. als ohe just ignores it and I move further down his list for no reasons given | ||
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On March 27 2016 07:41 LightningStrike wrote: I object the lynch Tina despite everything you think it was most likely town vs town day 1. what if I told you I was protected last night and there was no kp. would you still think tina was o so innocent? | ||
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On March 27 2016 08:01 LightningStrike wrote: With the way the wagons happened it was most likely town vs town. why are you repeating stupid lines that are not even your own. Mafia knows so I will say im a vet of sorts. Each night I can choose to use a protective vest on myself they have a limited number and may or may not be used in back to back nights thats none of your business. Im not notified if I get a save but obv it worked when I used it tonight since no one fucking died. So why was I nked? Because I was fucking right about alot of things. | ||
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On March 27 2016 08:08 Koshi wrote: Read sicklucker his filter. 0 clues why mafia would shoot him. Wouldn't make any sense in the world. For what reads? Really? rofl ok koshi. im sure im lying about claiming here when mafia kp was reduced by two yesterday. My theory is we have a doctor that saved someone (probably jat) and I was also targeted. which pretty much makes you scum | ||
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On March 27 2016 08:12 Koshi wrote: My and rsoultin being mafia is indeed the only reason that you might get shot. Probably not. But still. Maybeeeee. Sadly I am town. So it doesn't even matter what alignment rsoultin is. You never ever fucking ever get shot. ok say your town. why are you not voting rsoutlin or dandred here? becuase if i was wrong about you im right about someone | ||
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On March 27 2016 08:12 Koshi wrote: My and rsoultin being mafia is indeed the only reason that you might get shot. Probably not. But still. Maybeeeee. Sadly I am town. So it doesn't even matter what alignment rsoultin is. You never ever fucking ever get shot. i was a n1 kill in 2 of my 3 previous town games fyi.. Also I have been tryharding this game so it would not surprise me if I was just a respect kill. but forget about that ima pretend im right so I get my way | ||
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On March 27 2016 08:16 Damdred wrote: Why would,I get voted for again here? it just feels right... | ||
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On March 27 2016 09:52 Koshi wrote: why are all my scumreads calling each other town. That is really annoying. maybe becuase thats what good scum players should call each other | ||
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On March 27 2016 10:55 sandroba wrote: Let's say rels and vivax are mafia, wouldn't that make the wagon ytd more likely town vs mafia? vivax said he would lynch rsoul and said he would sheep me and did neither. rels said something along the lines "i can see rsoul being seen as scum, but not over tube" Both of which seem like a thing mafia would do, not like they would push extremelly hard against the lynch onto a town. I don't understand where people are comming from insisting in this town vs town wagon idea. it feels like a made up agenda | ||
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On March 27 2016 12:59 justanothertownie wrote: Why? Palmar said he would compensate for his activity policy with vigs. If theres 2 vigs in the game i would say one is garanteed to be town and the other is 50/50 any alignment | ||
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On March 27 2016 20:26 Kurumi wrote: I shot Koshi and he is still alive, any takers? Sorry I have not posted since the last post, I had to get it posted and then rush to another place, since family time! my hero | ||
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On March 27 2016 23:03 Vivax wrote: Sicklucker claim was bad for multiple reasons and I would expect him to be smarter than that. He doesn't know if scum shot him. He doesn't know if mafia can hold kp and use it doubly the next night. He said he used his vest and he can pretend he did but then mafia just never shoots him. Plus he seems to lack his usual interest into the puzzle. Lots of posts are just drivel, they should usually at least contain a nugget of wisdom, he says that instead of lynching TT we could wait for his modkill when this game has no activity requirements. He also doesn't try to profile himself much by posting interesting observations, he rather says stuff like "haha i got shot for my reads". Scum lean. He doesn't know if scum shot him. I voted scum am n1'ed alot and two kp are missing. If I didnt townread sandro I probably would not have claimed He doesn't know if mafia can hold kp and use it doubly the next night. - that would be dumb as hell no mafia would ever do that He said he used his vest and he can pretend he did but then mafia just never shoots him. Wifmo beyond your level here | ||
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On March 27 2016 23:05 Superbia wrote: PRs: We have seen 2 flip and 4 claimed. Together with the fact that KP was apparently reduced by 2, meaning 2 more PRs are active, or stack on stutters or mafia roleblock (is roleblock notified? Too lazy to check OP). So at least 1 protective PR (definitely in a game of this size). So that means 7-8 PRs. Seems a bit.. much? It may very well be possible. The thing is, with so many PRs, there HAS to be a secondary mafia KP OR a 3rd party KP (even without PRs, just the number of people in the game). Where is that? Could be stack, but it would imply that the KP is 3rd party. OR sandroba was mafia vigi and claimed his shot, but this seems very unlikely because he would be confirmed mafia at a certain point in the game purely through game logic. Also kind of liked his claim. So sandroba is probably always town. So we have: - 2 claimed KP (Sandroba and Kurumi) on Stutters and Koshi respectively. - >=1 mafia & >=0 3rd party KP. (together has to be >1 for game balance) So for the secondary mafia/3rd party KP, either: - One of the vigis is lying (would lean towards kurumi lying). - We have a secondary medic (and a claimed PR is FOR SURE lying). - Mafia vig or 3rd party (whichever) held their shot (unlikely) OR was roleblocked somehow. - Mafia stacked with 3rd party and sandroba on stutters (almost never). This doesn't tell us too much yet. However, if at some point in the game it becomes known that we have 2 medics (not today), one of the alive PRs is mafia. Claimed PRs have to be evaluated on their own. I have no idea what kind of information mafia has, but Koshi had said before that Palmar gives mafia info on town (iirc?). Speaking of Koshi, he has to hard claim whether he is a veteran or not. On that note, today's most important topic is rso's alignment. Alas, none of the vigis shot her (... seriously?), so now we have to figure out her alignment. If we lynch her and she flips town, the game is probably super over. I am either ride or dying with her today, or she's getting lynched. She has said that she has time tomorrow and rso, you need to bring the fucking fire if you're town. The breadcrumb at the start of the game really, really helps with that, and I'm actually leaning towards you being town right now. Especially seeing how quick the votes are going again. That being said, do not be lazy. Bring the fucking fire. why would a third party have anything to do with the balance of town? It would be an indepedent third party. You would buff town to compensate that not how that would work. That would just overbalance it against mafia? Thats not how you balance for a third party. A third party would just mean town is only saposed to win less of the time. So you dont have to give town more shit if theres a third party | ||
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But I doubt it and if thats his play its gonna blow up in his face at some point with future flips | ||
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On March 27 2016 23:13 Koshi wrote: why in gods name would the game be over after a second town flip? lol. Town will have at least 4 ml. Maybe 3 if you people keep shooting townies. i dont wanna read the op but im pretty sure we gained 2 mislynches since we stopped 2 kp.. at least... | ||
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On March 27 2016 23:14 Damdred wrote: Not necessarily there are certain roles that could. Well there also is a possibility koshi was hit by a jk and he's scum and the shit was stopped going off thats honestly the most likely scenerio. But theres so much possibility's Id say its only like 1/4 | ||
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On March 27 2016 23:14 Vivax wrote: Like here we go again, people literally pulling shitty reads out of their butt when people claim blue. D2 is ruined, no one even reads stuff that actually considers what people said outside of their claims. your such a hypocrite your reding me based of my claim. Pro tips dont reads people off claims in this setup because it does not mean shit | ||
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But rstoulins claim is so obv fake its a joke she does not have 15 votes already | ||
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On March 28 2016 05:31 Damdred wrote: So I went and read kur filter a bit more to see maybe he bread crumbed his shot or was implying that he was a vig. And to my eyes he did and it holds up to the flow of his claim/shot. He starts off by warning koshi that if he didn't play normally that kurm would arrange a meeting between the two of them, and his last read post he had koshi as his top scum. I don't think it's super clear cut but the way I'm leaning to last night going was, Scum shoots SL ( uses his power like a boss. Blocks scum shot) Stutters gets show by Sandroba (can only shoot after a town is lynched) Kurm vig shoots koshi (medic saves koshi blocking kp) Final scum kp goes out (is blocked by medic) Rs supposedly receives item from stutters Most of that isn't provable but yeah whatever just writing down what I think. Kinda meh about a few people, Tumble probably is the strangest person to me so far. Soon as I get home I'll show why but some of his posts just seem like he's trying to hard pocket people, and jump on pushes for sort of,meh reasons. Plus he didn't vote yesterday even though he thought tube was Scum ( I think) just didn't care about the lynch. in this scenario I think that makes slam scum because I refuse to believe we have 3 veg with these other power roles. ALso i doubt we have two medics but a jailkeeper and a medic is possible. Scum medic or a scum or third party with a vest is very possible. Acualy I think koshis third party probably a survivor or something that would make so much more sense | ||
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So thats one way to explain the second medic theory | ||
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On March 28 2016 06:38 LightningStrike wrote: So I decided to check Storm 1 and Storm 2 and there was a decent amount of blues in both of them and in Storm 1 scum had a doctor interesting enough. yes its not the uncommon and its why koshi is not town here. No town would have saved him. And if no town saved him hes scum. Infact I think we should vote him today because aparently kp does not work on him ##vote koshi | ||
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All three of these options are more likely then any town doctor fucking saving him... | ||
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sandro/slam/kuru/me/ I know im missing others have all claimed roles that could be either alignment and a good host would balance that. So town reading any of us off are roles is absolute garbage. (cough vivax cough hyprocrite cough) | ||
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well you read people... Otherways include when someones about to get lynched they might make up a role like "second engineer" right after the first engineer flips and cannot verify this story. This is very likely a fake because of that and she picks a made up role that will never ve cced. She cant claim something like medic because if two medics show up shes toast. So she makes up a role that can never be proven because her partners dead. A second way you can fish out a rat is when they dont die to kp and no town would ever save them. That means you were saved by other means and are lying about that power. Come on guys we have two 95% confirmed guys why is this so hard | ||
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On March 28 2016 08:20 Shapelog wrote: I just refuse to believe that town has successfully outed all blue roles in the game. last storm game 9 blue roles not counting third party/mafia powers. Theres alot more to come I fear. This is not a vanilla game | ||
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On March 28 2016 09:31 sandroba wrote: @damdred why are vivax and koshi on your town list? I'm especially interested because vivax got there after saying a lot of absurdities and dodging many questions. damdred says smart things but then he lists the obv scum (koshi) or the useless anti town maybe scums (vivax, ls) as his top towns makes my head hurt. | ||
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On March 28 2016 11:24 Tictock wrote: I can agree that these 3 scenarios are most likely, I'm also wondering if Kuru were scum if his teammates might have been pushing his voters. Though, Kinda looks to me like scum was piled on Tube to save Rsoul... yes we already know this. this is why scum is panicking and aligning hard maybe even trying to get me lynched at some point since they know they cant nk me safely | ||
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On March 28 2016 11:33 Tictock wrote: Spoiled the WoT. First, I'm pretty sure Koshi is town. Second, do you really think Rsoul and Rit are scum together? They are never scum together with the way they have been going at each other. rit is town dude | ||
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Town Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker Mafia and guys who mafia aligned ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred Yes I copy pasted that from the vote count. If theres 6 mafia Rstoul Koshi (or third party but hes aligning with them so hard I doubt it Vivax Rels Ls one of slam or kuru (veggies) I kind of townread but there votes were pretty bad dandred/jat/obi No clue on the afk no voters they all should have been shot | ||
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Obv alot of this is gambling that rstoulin is in fact mafia but im quite confident and I think there is a decent chance I have the game close to solved if the cards are falling right | ||
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On March 28 2016 11:52 Damdred wrote: I've seen powers sort of like sls before so you will have yo be more exact, if I am to see what you are saying. If we think kurm is town we have to think three shots were protected. I knew ive seen it somewhere. http://town-of-salem.wikia.com/wiki/Veteran This is basicly my power except I dont kill people who are shoot into my protection .And I have scientist making energy shields flavor | ||
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On March 28 2016 11:57 rsoultin wrote: meh >< fuck it you both seem very sure that jat was shot. if you had a reason to be sure, sl knowing this already when he's claiming vet should be pretty suspicious, yet you don't seem to be reacting that way looks like jat might not have been the save | ||
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On March 28 2016 12:10 rsoultin wrote: "logical" is a bit different than the certainty sl showed, though he at least has it going for him that he also assumed he was shot so apparently blanket statements of certainty about uncertain things can be expected. meh i don't see any use to discussing this further beyond it's the one thing bugging me about you presently since when do I not apear to be certain? I just thought jat was the most likely shot and save by far. I know theres at least one other save and jat is the most likely medic save. Like medics are very easy people to predict thats why medic dodges are a thing. Any good town medic probably would have saved him. and we had a missing kp so yes I thought it was jat. Ty for the info and telling us it was not | ||
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On March 28 2016 12:12 Damdred wrote: You know RS what bugs me? Rels only post today that is really strange coming from him tbh And I'm town don't worry just makes life easier that way and if rels is mafia that makes rstoulin look like mafia dont you think? and that sure as hell makes koshi and ls look like mafia | ||
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On March 28 2016 12:13 LightningStrike wrote: It was just shocking to me at the time because he had Tina as one of his top scumreads so when he shot stutters I was completely shocked. I would rather had gone with the tina shot for info if I was a vig in that situation. shooting rstoulin might have been too obvious from a town veg's perspective since a blocker is possible. But your right he never mentioned why he didnt shoot her | ||
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On March 28 2016 16:40 rsoultin wrote: tch, over-confident arrogant sl = town not reading my posts = scum maybe he's a woolly unicorn from the ice age woolly unicorns sound fun ^^ maybe i should get one im reading your posts... your posts are acualy readable which is not your town trait | ||
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On March 28 2016 17:19 ritoky wrote: rsoul is the only person who claimed reactively or due to provocation right? every1 else has claimed pro-actively; SL and kuru not in conjunction with a flip...that correct? also kuru was your shot refunded after shooting koshi? that could be telling if you shot into prot or a rb because aren't rb bullets refunded generally and prot bullets not? yes | ||
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On March 28 2016 17:19 rsoultin wrote: lol i know you're not dude ^^ or at least you're not comprehending them example? | ||
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On March 28 2016 17:28 rsoultin wrote: ye this doesn't make an ounce of sense with tube flipped, you know that, right? i obv wasn't here in fact, the entire tube wagon formed after i left @.@ yes thats my point. YOu were confident as the leasing wagon or didnt care. This suggests to me you knew your team was going to save you and certainly were not a power role or you would have been around to claim | ||
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On March 28 2016 17:32 rsoultin wrote: -_- dude, as either alignment i'd care that's why this argument is retarded and obviously me trying to get everyone to talk about their other reads was because i intended to claim if i had to, like do you really think i cared so little as mafia that i would risk getting lynched over a town counterwagon? you're being ridiculous do you think your shitty role means anything in this kind of game. Because you shouldnt have | ||
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If what your saying about your role is true.( its not thats op) If both of you knew the existance of the other in the game you could both claim and we would have two confirmed towns. Thats not balanced at all | ||
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On March 28 2016 17:43 ritoky wrote: from the way her role reads i think the balance is in, they don't know eachother, there is no confirmation of same alignment 1 could be making items for the other and the other is red, and that 1 makes the other uses, so if 1 dies the other becomes useless-ish? if rstolin is about to be lynch all she has to do is go. ok guys you fucked up im town and I can confirm it.( she says her role) can my partner plz confirm my existance in the game. Both are confirmed town or aligned which is something none town would never want to do this early ever. So that saves town a mislynch and they still have a power with mass medic wifmo. Ya not balanced | ||
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On March 28 2016 17:49 rsoultin wrote: -shrugs- by your definition this makes masons unbalanced as well i personally don't buy the kuru claim and i'm not convinced that even if you were vet you were actually shot. two protective roles doesn't sound crazy in this game, especially if they're limited Masons can talk to each toher but no one considers that a power... Masons power is being inno child not being able to talk to each other everyone knows this. BUt your inno child and have a power | ||
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On March 28 2016 17:55 rsoultin wrote: this is a really pointless discussion, you know that? how the fuck do i know why/how this game was balanced any more than the next person? seems to me though that engineers not knowing each other and the potential for an item having so many things that could go wrong on top of the 50% effectiveness thing doesn't make it stronger than masons at all no i agree but probably not for the same reasons | ||
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On March 28 2016 18:21 rsoultin wrote: i mean, i realize he posted an excuse right in here, but that's really coincidental. you'd think he'd give enough of a shit to wait 5 minutes no thats not the point.. he made a post in a timeframe that mafia would have had no time to change actions. ( iwas in thread it was right before) SO why didnt he just hardclaim the shot? He risks dying and town losing the information . Whatever koshis still mafia untill someone really really townie claims to have saved him. So we do not lynch kura yet. If you wanna live another day you will push the rels angle | ||
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On March 28 2016 22:08 Vivax wrote: Superbia is 80% mafia cause he misinterepreted my joke post about shitty reads from claims which he wouldn't if he realized that the entire day I spent ranting about that way of forming reads. He's probably trying to rescue rsoultin here by trying to find some shitty mislynch. The first post here (which is the later one) is the post he thinks contained my reads on ritoky and rsoultin when literally two posts before I said the stuff in the second post. Which definitely isn't a townread but a reason to be hesitant to lynch them. A player like superbia is not this bad as town, never. He's one of the best towns around and this game he isn't. Easy scumread. idk he sucks lately but he did vote her... yesterday. when you voted to save her by one ro two votes so your read here is worse | ||
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On March 29 2016 02:12 rsoultin wrote: ye, well, my belief that sl actually would ever be shot by mafia is about | | this wide ^^ i find it more strange that he didn't comment when the shot didn't go through and sandy claimed almost immediately -_- like if all the claims are why he claims later it just doesn't add up for me i wanted information theres no rush in these things.. I believe I madea comment like " well mafia is just holding there dicks waiting for claims so I may as well stay it" I said that because no one was really posting dispite a huge victory of NO FUCKING KP. Also before sandro claimed I had no intention of claiming. I would not have claimed if 1 kp was showing because other protective roles exist and that would be really fucking stupid. But I belived sandros claim so I believed 2 kp were missing. Which means I blocked a bullit like all the time and that information needs to be shared. so of course I didnt instantly claim. I was never claiming unless a townread claimed that shot | ||
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On March 29 2016 02:20 Koshi wrote: sl never gets shot by mafia. never. Xcept when you are mafia. Then I can see it. But still. Can't see it. dude... I said I was n1ed as town in 2 of my last 3 games. DO i have any reason to lie about that? Like its a fact you can go fucking check. Im nked all the fucking time | ||
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On March 29 2016 05:29 rsoultin wrote: talk about something worthwhile or shut up -_- you're a pain in the ass stop trying to pick fights with me so you look townie and actually be townie | ||
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i didnt even mention you... You called me point useless random (its very important to prove that koshi saying I cant be nked is a lie since hes trying to use that as an excuse) | ||
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of these only Va diddnt vote tubesock fuck patterns do you not see them? | ||
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On March 29 2016 07:10 Rels wrote: FUCK SL IS RIGHT IF ANYONE SAVED KOSHI YOU NEED TO CLAIM RIGHT NOW IF NOBODY CLAIM KOSHI IS 100% SCUM no freakin shit. acualy if there both scum that probably makes the tumble wagon the scums. but im too lazy to go fake check that right now | ||
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On March 29 2016 07:20 justanothertownie wrote: You think so? I can basically guarantee you that people bussed. i dont know. there eas certainly some people who joined in late for credit but it seems really dumb to push shenanies on your doctor. But then again you think everythings a bus. Of people who should get credit for this (the majortiy voters and people who pushed it) i doubt there was a "bus" but of the 4 guys who panick voted him after yes but I dont give them any credit so I wouldnt define it as a bus | ||
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On March 29 2016 08:01 justanothertownie wrote: So in my mind it is basically confirmed that there is mafia between Kurumi and Koshi. Feel free to tell me if you think that's somehow wrong. this has been known im my mind for some time now | ||
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On March 29 2016 08:22 Koshi wrote: Koshi (5): [red] There is mafia on this wagon. I think if I actually read the TT lynch I can get a decent grasp on who is mafia. Pretty funny that the guys I have been calling mafia 24/7 fucked off while being on my wagon. Ahh poor sicklucker and superbia. ah no I was definitely there and asking people to stop being idiots and stay on you | ||
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Theres no way he would try in his situation somethings up. Or at least he has a sick plan lol | ||
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On March 29 2016 08:49 Koshi wrote: Dumbest question ever. I don't even understand what you want to achieve with this. I think its very obvious what hes suggesting.. Hes suggesting there is two mafia teams | ||
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On March 29 2016 08:53 sandroba wrote: I think you will get lynched tomorrow regardless, or maybe even shot by kurumi or the other mafia team if it exists, so if you are mafia and know of the presence of another team you could at least tell us. But yeh prob dumb question. i think he would probably lie and kill towns anyway... half out of spite half out of strategy | ||
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On March 29 2016 08:55 sandroba wrote: nah nobody townie saved koshi. only other explanation is kurumi is mafia or kurumi was roleblocked. option two is acualy probably pretty likely now that I think about it. Scary | ||
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On March 29 2016 09:04 Koshi wrote: I don't think I was worth a docsave. But maybe somebody wanted to kill me with the cpr doc. I think it is unlikely but it is possible. Unlike you people I know I wasn't mafia doc saved, so something happened. And Kurumi faking a shot on me is really an out there strategy. Even if it would eventually work against me with a TT lynch. why dont you think kuri was just roleblocked? is that not like 100x more likely its troubled me you never even brought up this idea | ||
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On March 29 2016 09:08 Koshi wrote: Maybe mafia actually read sandroba blue and just roleblocked him. SUPER boring answer. But maybe most likely. VA did you save me? there you go. you mean kura right? | ||
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On March 29 2016 09:18 justanothertownie wrote: It was at a point where noone was townreading you and several people had stated they wanted to lynch you. And look at the words he uses. Easiest read in the game etc etc. Sorry but it is obvious. Nobody would state this read as mafia in this situation. ah ok i get it but you might be underestimating mafia abilty to not read thread or make up random reads | ||
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On March 29 2016 09:45 Rels wrote: OK Damdred is town. This is so townie and trying to solve the game. so damdred leads a mafia and this garbage post anyone can make is what helps you townread dandred #facepalm | ||
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On March 29 2016 09:56 Koshi wrote: guys it is ows and superbia for sure. just add some sicklucker with that. im acualy on your side Neanderthal | ||
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On March 29 2016 20:44 Vivax wrote: I really need to talk to one of the vigs (sandro or scott). I want to know if kurumis bullet was refunded, and when it is refunded (roleblocks/save cuz idk what it was). We might see extra KP tonight depending on this and we need to be prepared for that. So the mafia team in my opinion is rsoultin, superbia, TickTock. one of the vigs and the last one is going to be SL probably, he is way too focused on his shitty claim for my taste, like that's all he thought of talking about after a flip that gives us info. Also he's going to use it as a reason for him not getting shot into eternity I think. I also don't like how he thought Koshi would be a good lynch all of a sudden when coming into the thread when he was super fixated on rsoultin for the entire day, reeks like bullshit. I also don't believe rsoultin that one of the engineers invents one receives. Inventions are a PYP role and Palmar would never think of putting such a troll role into one of his games. What I think is that they are some sort of mason and can set up comm channels as flavour suggests, but only if they figure out who the other one is. Mafia can use it to their advantage to get TR easily and town can figure out the mafia while talking to them still. That would be balanced and a serious role, dunno why I believed we could possibly have a role as rsoultin suggested, which btw is super onesided AND apparently would have required the engie to identify the other engie, and since stutters barely played this game I'm 1000% sure rsoultin didn't receive jackshit, cause stutters would have had to send it to her specifically. If this isn''t the case then rsoultin wouldn't have had to find out who the other engie was, so that gives it away that something is foul. There's also the very small chance none of the vigs are mafia and then it's ritoky or JAT. JAT has been kinda mafia siding this game but maybe he's also just town, like his mafia siding would be blatantly obvious if 4 of 5 of my team are correct. Still he's the last of the bunch I would lynch. Imo what we see here is mafia trying to rescue rsoultin by trying to lynch Koshi. a WIFOM vote on TW by TT, and rsoultins obvious bus, no one wanted to kill rsoultin and koshi was a close second. trust me I tried I was literraly begging people to consiladte between them since it looked like neither was getting lynch and surprise surprise it happened | ||
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On March 29 2016 22:38 Vivax wrote: TBH anything TT said he said knowing that he looked like bad and would be the first of his team to die so what he did was probably just covering his partners and framing people using reverse logic. I'm also 90 % sure on LS being town just cause of his behaviour at EoD. Next lynches should be superbia, sandroba or sicklucker . If I don't get protted I probably don't make it through the night. Last mafia can also be shape or Rels. reading all your posts is drivving me crazy. im still fucking town nothing has changed. And now people are bringing me up as lynch? Im a fucking power role that can be cleared mechanicly ya lets lynch me tomorrow guys great plan. My filters not 4x longer then my mafia games and I have not been a huge thread presence pushing people I think are scum based on reasonable evident. Even if you think koshi is town now. THERE WAS REALLY REALLY GOOD EVIDENCE HE WAS MAFIA Hell there still is | ||
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On March 29 2016 23:51 Koshi wrote: Actually yes. I haven't found mafia in the last 2 games. and who did you call mafia in those games that was acualy town? + Show Spoiler + sicklucker | ||
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On March 29 2016 23:53 Vivax wrote: I always ALWAYS have in the back of my head something very important, I'm not 100% sold on the version I'm proposing with superbia/JAT/Sandro/SL/TT combination. What is still possible is a Koshi or Tumblewood or rsoultin/Rels/Shape/TT/someone (probably still SL or sandro) combination and scum decided to make a play yesterday joining the shenannies to bus their weakest member and save another. IM NOT WITH FUCKING KOSHI AND RSTOULIN | ||
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On March 30 2016 00:17 sandroba wrote: Explain to me vivax, how can i fact check is bullets get refunded when my shot went through. Palmar does not offer information randomly to people just because they can shoot. You can yourself pm palmar and ask if vigi bullets are refunded? sorry I don't understand the last point. I said in thread "rsoul never told us anything about item". rsoul responded "I'm not going to tonight. It's better that way". maybe you missed that. ofc i say she needs to be questioned tomorrow I think SL is vet because he claimed vet in a day where all mafia kp was soaked. If he is mafia then how does he know other town vet(s) is not going to claim as well and throw suspicion on him. Mafia probably thinks there is a vet since their kp didn't go through, even so you go ahead and claim a role which prob is unique or there is only a few, knowing that one is prob present and has reason to cc you? My read on koshi wasn't because of activity at first, it was because of random reads and him not being pushy/obnoxious/agressive so far. I voted him ytd based on that. If reads based on claims are super easy to make why would I throw away the opportunity to get an easy read on someone? And if they are easy to make why are yours mostly opposite from mine? THANK YOU I will be your sword even if your mafia | ||
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On March 30 2016 00:25 sandroba wrote: Fact is 95% claims made without any pressure come from town. You didn't see TT claiming anything randomly did you? Only claim I think is probably false is rsoul's, cause it was stalled like shit and was made because of pressure. Breadcrumbs make it more beliavable, but there is also possible scenarios where she breadcrumbs this as mafia (either knowing about the engineer role, or being mafia engineer) . But it was worth a shot keeping her alive since she claimed to have an invention made by stutters, which could have an obvious or verifiable effect which would help us sort it out. OMGOMGOMG poecketd | ||
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On March 30 2016 01:37 Koshi wrote: I really wonder how people like JAT just refuse to answer me yesterday when I was getting lynched and was asking about superbia. I guess he was just praying I would die so he didn't need to comment on his scumbuddy. Ohyeah we are going there. well if hes mafia hes waiting till the nk so he has to convince less people. thats how jat plays mafia | ||
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On March 30 2016 03:07 Shapelog wrote: So i checked SL filter from XV (his last blue game in data: Click for link) and it checks out expect for one thing. Before i mention that (becuase i already posted the quote and are lazy to move things around to make this post flow while you read it) I found this, which is what he did this game as well. Thought it was interesting since if IIRC someone posted something about it a while back. Thing that is bugging me from XV to this game is how he approach someone sus. D1, most notably Gumdrop in XV. Editers note: this became much more than a filter compersion. In XV he waited for 2 hours to see if Gum posted any follow up posts. He wanted to see Gumdrops reaction and his respond to it. I.E. He found someone scummy, and wanted to see more posts from them (this is where i am trying to get at) Now look at how he Handles Gumshow: So he has his reason right? But when gumshow starts posting and stuff he does not look and comment on them. Despite being in the thread for sometime. Even took the time to go after LS instead of listing and responding to Gumshow (as far as we know.) Then when someone comments about his read on Gumshow: His scum read was the same. Gumshow had posted much more than that at that time and he should have had something else (a comment or anything) if he was paying attention to the thread right? And pressure? How can you be pressure voting someone if you do not even respond to or even show that you are following their posts? it just doesn't line up. Not only that, he ignore Gumshow further after that point as well. Guess what the next post that mention Gum was... So SL really did not care at all for his read on Gum. He infact just went after LS (but never voted LS) Why do i meation this? because it is also different from XV. He was willing to change his vote at the slightest change in wind. Hell really the reasoning wasn't cocreate in that game. Someone rub him the wrong way and it made him sus. so vote. I Will say that SL seemed slightly disinterested in XV about Gumdrop but might be because he was interested on voting vivax. Still was a difference thou. in my mind. So either,
i opened up with gumdrop posts in both gmes thats hillarious. But the situition is not the same so I kind of stoped reading your post after that because the angel your going for is dumb atho townie as hell. IN game 1 I initiated it. in game 2 I was not the one who started it but simply voted because its a really easy thing to do to apply presure. | ||
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On March 30 2016 04:45 justanothertownie wrote: You have no idea how I play mafia bro :/ are you claiming mafia? because this game I have thought you to be town | ||
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I am being dumb here (very unlikely) SL is mafia due to not even gaving a flying fuck on his GumShow vote or read SL is racist to people whoes name start with Gum and auto-votes them when he plays with them like this is the fucking stupidest conclusion to reach off so little information. Its like nit picking 1 post in 600 and comparing it to 1 post in 1000 in anotheer game and someone comp airing each other to tell yourself im mafia when I do fucking random things as both alignments | ||
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Is this real life? Is this how he scum hunts? I mostly completely ignored him in other games | ||
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On March 30 2016 04:43 VayneAuthority wrote: why do you keep telling us about your role repeatedly then and couldn't keep your pants on at the end of day 1 deadline letting everybody know your powers and that you were probably shot? lol because I feel like I have to remind morons I can be mechanical cleared who are suggesting to lynch me tomorrow. I would do this for anyone... and I do this literraly everygame but sadly its myself for once. And I always talk about myself so you call all screw off. And you all know I always talk about myself so keep putting scum on that for no reason freakin mafia | ||
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Yes I keep mentioning this because yes everyone is still posting me as a lynch candidate... and you need to not | ||
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On March 30 2016 05:07 Shapelog wrote: Wait are Gumdrop and GumShoe the same person? Thought they were distant cousins at best. Like this is the problum i have with the pressure thing. You pressure vote. He posts Damdred asks you why do you think he is scum a hourish later You say same reasons Bugger off Oh he flipped. Like your reasoning did not change at all when Damdred asked you why you were currently scum reading him. That is the part i hate with the progression. my reasons were posted I forget what they were because they were probably made up. you just missed them but I know I posted them | ||
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On March 30 2016 05:39 Koshi wrote: I am too tired. I hope I can sleep in 20 mins. if your waiting for flips I dont think its for another hour 6pm est | ||
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On March 30 2016 05:49 Rels wrote: SL you have an opinion on ritoky and Superbia ? I said we should kill super. maybe i was wrong about ritoky I been wrong about alot of things | ||
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On March 30 2016 07:09 Damdred wrote: I wonder who vivax protected d1... there must be a trail of clues vivax is not that bad | ||
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On March 30 2016 07:17 ritoky wrote: i feel incredibly vindicated after so many people called my read bad. fuck them. FUCK THEM ALL | ||
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On March 26 2016 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Day 2 + Show Spoiler [previous day's final votecounts] + Day 1 Final Votecount Tubesock (8): ObiWanShinobi, Kurumi, Vivax, Koshi, justanothertownie, Rels, LightningStrike, Damdred rsoultin (6): Superbia, VayneAuthority, ritoky, sandroba, Shapelog, sicklucker Kurumi (2): Tubesock, rsoultin Tumblewood: (0): ritoky (0): Alakaslam (0): Damdred (0): sandroba (0): Not Voting (4): Stutters695, Tictock, Alakaslam, Tumblewood Day 1 ends in . so obi kura koshi rels ls and dandred voted to save rstoulin but. Day 2 On March 29 2016 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Day 2 Final Votecount Tictock (9): Vivax, LightningStrike, Shapelog, Rels, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Koshi, rsoultin, Tumblewood Koshi (5): rsoultin (2): Tumblewood (2): VayneAuthority, Kurumi (0): sandroba (0): Tictock (0): Superbia (0): Not Voting (0): Day 2 ends in . Notification: Some countries are affected by the DST. The deadline will remain the same in UTC. Ls dandred and rels voted to kill mafia. So this leads me to believe that obi/koshi/kura have a shitty ass track record. Now the whole koshi/kura confusses me and one is ikely town so for now I think todays vote should be very easy based on vote logic ##vote obiwans | ||
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On March 30 2016 07:26 Koshi wrote: I wonder if kurumi shot rsoultin. Kinda certain he did. my hero | ||
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On March 30 2016 07:50 Superbia wrote: I guess we have to take his word for it. It's so fucked up though. WHY NAME THEM LIKE THAT. So confusing. if vivax roleblocked someone n1 we need to find out who because that person is probably mafia. is there anyone vivax was 100% sure was mafia? | ||
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On March 30 2016 07:52 Koshi wrote: The only thing I am bothered with is that we are missing 1 kp during n1. And that is taking into account that sicklucker got shot. hmm. Strange. which suggests vivax roleblocked a mafia... | ||
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On March 30 2016 08:19 Damdred wrote: Oh man, There are no shots missing guys, all shots are accounted for n1. I did not receive a vest rs isn't that dumb. LS is town, you guys have no idea how,much I had to push ls in pm land and in mafia at to act out. And even then he didn't go overboard and calmed down quick. He's town he is a low impact player overall anyway. can you just claim? its not like your not already a top nk target | ||
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On March 30 2016 09:00 Damdred wrote: It's a bit hard to explain but I am a medic. i knew it. I knew it yesterday I made comments in thread. I knew it because you were so agreeable with my me and jat were saves theory | ||
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On March 30 2016 09:42 sandroba wrote: yo ls + sl let's lynch rels with me without posting any case whatsoever i like obi alot better .they basicly played the same but rels voted TT alot earlier | ||
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On March 30 2016 20:46 Koshi wrote: Even with all this I still think superbia is just the least impactful player left. I don't know if that is normal. From reading his previous towngame he has a presence and likes to push things. I wasn't around on the D1 lynch. How likely was it that rsoultin would die? Because Superbia was there complaining. So he was there to save rsoultin if needed, it would make him look bad, but he was there possibly because he knew his vote was on a buddy and he might need to make something happen. But not a lot of things happened. EoD1 was like 2 pages in 2 hours? he also has big impacts as mafia. remember being in his pocket in pyp? I think his activity is pretty random | ||
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On March 30 2016 22:26 Rels wrote: SL what is your role name please ? Force field scientist | ||
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On March 30 2016 22:26 Damdred wrote: Yep I get notified whether I save correctly or not. hum that does not sound right | ||
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On March 30 2016 22:34 Rels wrote: No actually kurumi has to have shoot rsoultin no ? I was thinking of a "trap box" thing maybe but this is not a themed game. Maybe sandroba is scum. That would make sense. That is why he killed Stutters - 'cause he knew he was engineer. And that is why he asked kurumi's role name before committing to saying his. is there any sign that stutters revealed his role. If so thats actually prettty likely | ||
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holy shit. That would almost make more sense then whatever the hell rstoulin claimed. but why would she choose to kill the other mason? If the other masons around to claim mason with her they are gonna be considered town. SO in this scenerio sandro is town | ||
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On March 30 2016 22:39 Superbia wrote: All right. So we have: N1: Mafia KP #1 -> JAT [blocked by damdred] Mafia KP #2 -> ??? Claimed KP #1 -> Stutters (by sandroba) Claimed KP #2 -> Koshi (by kurumi) [blocked by Vivax - verrrry likely] Now there are 3 options for mafia KP #2: - It was Kurumi's KP. - It was Sandroba's KP. - It was on SL (unlikely, imo). - It was stacked on Stutters (also unlikely, imo). So we have the 2 claims by sandroba/kurumi. Sandroba claimed a vigi role that can only shoot once and can only shoot after a misslynch. Kurumi claimed a vanilla vigi role and from what I recall, had no further restrictions. In contrast, Slam had a day-vigi role that can only shoot once and only during d1. When comparing these roles, to me there is a disconnect between Kurumi's and Sandroba's role. I feel like both of these cannot be in the game at the same time. fyi I didnt use my powers last night. I figured correctly with so many obvious towns and them scum reading me that I could save my power. ALso theres no way in hell mafia was ever going to shot me with my wifmo powers | ||
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On March 30 2016 23:44 Rels wrote: Damdred claimed to have succesfully protected JAT N1. SL's blocking a shot is not confirmed. Yes it is. Unless we have a secret medic. but like everyones claimed probably | ||
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On March 31 2016 00:01 Damdred wrote: Literally the only person who hasn't been here is kurm. If he didn't shoot the person who did is an idiot. not getting a bullet back is an easy lie to make tbh. or a vest LOL | ||
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On March 31 2016 00:09 Kurumi wrote: Guys... I would love to claim the rsoultin shot and I would have done it... the problem is I just could not. It was not me. But on the other hand, I wanted to lynch her D2 - I had to go before the lynch because surprise cake (I had my B-day yesterday, not two days ago - TL runs on Korean time, also thanks ritoky for the happy b-day). When I saw that there are some shennanies brewing I had two thoughts: "Kurumi, you are not the shennanies guy. Do you remember good shennanies? No, you don't." and "Shennanies fail. What then? Koshi/rso/tumble die. Are you fine with it? The least with Tumble, but you could be wrong on your lurker of choice and he rubbed you the wrong way. They want to go for Ticktock, are you okay with that? Sure am. So I don't need to swing my phone in front of my birthday cake." As for Jat's plan of me being in a team with Ticktock... with how N1 went, he could've claimed he saved anybody and we'd be none the wiser. Add the roleblocking bit and we're also in a weird spot. I really shot Koshi. I really lost my bullet. I have no idea why. Koshi's alive. The rules for refunding bullets vary from the game and this one won't tell me which one is it because of info rules. kosh is confirmed third party I think.. Vivax never claimed a shot on ihm. that only leaves the mafia roleblocker that can make koshi town so not confirmed just very very likely.. | ||
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On March 31 2016 00:26 Rels wrote: So sandroba and Damdred are not being lynched today because of their roles, regardless of what they do today. Kurumi might be town. I want to lynch LS SL OWS or VA. how could you honestly want to lynch me still? how? how? Im lynching you. like im 99.9% confirmed not mafia and koshi is obvious the serial killer or alot less likely tsecond mafia team. Im probably just a 1 time vest user thats owning mafia all game. hum? no i have 9 vests 18 really. See I can make any number its an easy game to play. Do I have more then one? well thats between me and mafia to wifmo about | ||
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On March 31 2016 00:31 Rels wrote: Wait why didn't you shoot N2 ? read the game? how do you not know sandros role dumb tell? | ||
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On March 31 2016 00:47 Damdred wrote: The way RS was trying to play me off sl or try to make me suspicious of him makes me think SL is town tbh. its acualy amazing this has to be repated over and over. like if theres any two players not alligned in the whole game its me and her. like over every single 2 person convo we are easily the most obvious ... | ||
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And people are still saying im mafia ITs acualy a joke. like I understand why i look like a third party. Its the same reason I suspect koshi third partys often have veteran like powers. So you can call me third party. but if you call me mafia I will spite vote you becuase your bad or not paying attention | ||
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On March 31 2016 01:35 Koshi wrote: I am probably lynching kurumi if sandroba has 2 shots. HOLY CRAP. sandros power is like tihis. HE HAS UNLIMITED SHOTS BUT HE CAN ONLY SHOOT AFTER WE MISLYNCH A TOWN. WE KILLED A MAFIA AND WERE KILLING A MAFIA AGAIN HE DOES NOT HAVE A SHOT | ||
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Koshi - vest Sandro - kp Slam - kp kuru - kp anyone who has not claimed a role can be third party Like I think we have this mafia team on lockdown tbh but if you guys think im the sk were gonna lose this for sure | ||
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On March 31 2016 03:08 Koshi wrote: No it isnt. Either sandroba or kurumi is mafia. One used mafia kp. This is certain. Or town got wayyyyyyy too much kp. You were not shot and I dont believe your role. no they did not use mafia kp? Damdred made a save I made a save. Where are you getting this third mafia kp from? | ||
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On March 31 2016 03:42 VayneAuthority wrote: you complain people think you are mafia when you come into the thread with nonsense reads and vote me out of nowhere with little to no mention in your filter before this lol Convienent you literally have no idea whats happening in this game thats why I voted you | ||
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On March 31 2016 03:44 Koshi wrote: He clearly hinted at kurumi. Well maybe kurumi is 3p and he shot me because he doesnt like me. And you actually blocked mafia kp. But saying kurumi shot on me went through and I have a vest makes no sense and makes me think you want more options for 3p. Vivax quite likely blocked kurumi. can you show the hint? | ||
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On March 31 2016 03:44 Koshi wrote: He clearly hinted at kurumi. Well maybe kurumi is 3p and he shot me because he doesnt like me. And you actually blocked mafia kp. But saying kurumi shot on me went through and I have a vest makes no sense and makes me think you want more options for 3p. Vivax quite likely blocked kurumi. Its not that far fetched I have always thought hes town and your scummy | ||
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On March 31 2016 03:55 Koshi wrote: I dont believe a sk holding his shot. I know marv hates that shit. So poison? rsoul would have been a terrible poison target n1 she was scummy as fuck and a mislynch target from a third partys point of view. But people started thinking she was town after that so it kinda makes sense for her to be targeted by third part night 2 | ||
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On March 31 2016 03:55 Kurumi wrote: On N2 it could be 1 KP for mafia because of # of mafia/2 rounded down. that too hench why dandred should probably tell us his save before he dies... | ||
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On March 31 2016 05:13 VayneAuthority wrote: your scumreads are me and rels, thats the pot calling the kettle black right there. all you are doing is spamming about your shitty role, your lucky I even acknowledge your posts since most people just ignore them. i think your very clearly mafia here but thats just me. not like I been proven wrong in this game yet | ||
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On March 31 2016 05:20 VayneAuthority wrote: your track record of voting is damdred and koshi who are borderline confirmed town. your recent track record is losing in multiple lylos and playing a horrid scum game in cell. Your delusions are insane and you are legit borderline retarded if you are town this game i never actually voted dandred. Koshi is far from obvious town. But my number one target all game is a flipped mafia. Like disrespecting my opinion is not right here and a reason to think your mafia | ||
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On March 31 2016 06:12 Koshi wrote: most of the time mafia knows what is going on and town doesn't. thats not true I have on clue when im mafia especially when my teams losing and I dont care. | ||
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On March 31 2016 06:29 Koshi wrote: I think you have a shot of being mafia but maybe you are just that massive lynchbait player but w.e I think you are mafia. Now the cool part is that I don't want to lynch you. That being said. I don't want to lynch you because 2 "blues" bother me. There is mafia between kurumi and sandroba. Because an sk/poisoner is possible, but it could just very possibly be 5 mafia vs 16 townies. Mafia got 2 kp and a vigi. Mafia kp becomes 1 if mafia numbers are 1. (AND THIS IS HOW IT WAS IN PREVIOUS GAMES IIRC, not the bullshit people are saying with mafia/2 rounded down or up) So I personally don't think there is a 3p yet till I am sure. HOWEVER, I think that the forensic expert could have been somebody who could see how somebody died, so he might have been able to detect poison. BUT STILL, I don't want to believe in poison. But if anybody is 3p poisoner it is sicklucker. The veteran x-shield is fucking ridiculous and I don't believe it for a second. That is not a role I believe Palmar would use for town. It is just so clumsy and retarded. Anyway. I believe we need to lynch into the fucking claimed shots because it is almost impossible that there is Night 1 1 mafia kp on JAT 1 mafia kp on sicklucker (who is 3rd party because NO FUCKING CHANCE IN HELL town got 3 protective roles) 1 town kp on stutters 1 town kp on koshi 1 poison or hold shot by 3rd party Night 2 1 mafia kp on JAT 1 mafia kp on Vivax 1 poison on x or sk shot on rsoultin Well actually it doesn't seem too retarded. But I still doubt it. I think 1 of the town kp from night is not from town. And that is why I want to vote on sandroba or Kurumi. But I have no clue who is THE mafia on my wagon. I do think Superbia, kurumi or sandroba might be mafia. And sicklucker was also on my wagon and I think he is fucking 3p. So you all can die tbh, but I THINK I want to kill sicklucker and sandroba the least. who are the other two town protective roles? because we only know of one other then myself? two protective roles makes alot more sense then 3 town vigs no? | ||
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On March 31 2016 06:43 Koshi wrote: goddamn I feel good about this. Sicklucker and Kurumi also make a really good scumteam. except for I still cant be scum with rsoulin you moron. I feel like a broken record here | ||
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On March 31 2016 06:51 ritoky wrote: is mass claim a terrible idea right here? im sure there all vt and mafia so im ok with it. they will just all claim vt anyway | ||
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On March 31 2016 08:15 Shapelog wrote: LIKE THIS? ![[image loading]](http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/6/6f/Halo_Reach_Elite_Energy_Shield.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100607114554) OR THIS? ![[image loading]](http://www.devilsmmo.com/sites/default/files/uploads/images/firefall/battleframes/firefall-mammoth-06.jpg) HOW HAS THIS NOT STUCKED ANYONE YET? Holy shit SL is a Alien Think about it. If Sand is actually a Commissar that dates this to the 1960s. And if ignore that, it sounds like we are from before we go ham into space travel. We know because we are on a fucking expedition for the GOVERNMENT investigation a UFO CRASH SITE: SO WE DO NOT EVEN HAVE FUCKING ENERGY SHIELDS. So SL IS a motherfucking Alien using advance motherfucking Energy shields and claiming so and no one realize that energy shields have not even been invented yet. SL HAS SLIPPED ALIEN Or we are in fucking Halo right now. Jesus chirst i am smart this game. ![[image loading]](http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzs1pr4ohs1r6frako1_500.gif) ok you lost me you cant really use flavor in this way rofl | ||
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Your not even considering that completely lying about my role is completely in my town play book to wifmo mafia. like do I really have 3 shields? probably not that would be pretty clever to lie about dont you think? Maybe I had to lie about my flavor as well to fit my powers. maybe im jsut a soilder? im not going to confirm or denie any of this but its a stupid thing to think like why the fuck would I ever tell mafia my complete role | ||
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On March 31 2016 20:03 Superbia wrote: Nah >1 team mate and 3rd party makes more sense. I think its has some merit and I already called it out. Judging by thread sentiment if we thought mafia was dead a witch hunt would begin with me and koshi at each others throats. But we should still see mafia kp if this happens? so thats why im not sure | ||
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On March 31 2016 21:27 ritoky wrote: anywayz to respond to this "normally" 1) i hate claim fiestas because of what happens with situations like damdred is in. to me mafia is a game of public and private information and utilizing that information as leverage to fool others or find out who is fooling you. in claim fiestas you get situations like damdred is in and at a humongously more frequent rate. he is in a black or white situation, and it has nothing to do with play it has everything to do with mechanics. either he dies in the night and is town or gets a conf save and is town or he doesn't die and is mafia. that's it. no opinions on him or his play matter anymore, his alignment is now pure mechanics; which is not why i sign up to play mafia games. i don't like sorting through the mechanics of 35 roles claiming they have the power to turn into a donkey or some shit. i will slog through it if i have to, but i much prefer to play the game where i get to lie to your face and see if you catch me, rather than role-simulator 2016 2) you haven't read a lot of my recent games. i believe in my last 5 or so games with him i have essentially stopped talking about my read on him as town. i think i leveraged my soul read on him when i was mafia, but not sure. even last game i said i was trying a new way to read him and then proceeded to get fooled all game long (but still win, suck it SL). my read on him has diminished for a lot of reasons and it isn't as good as before. i also don't try to read him as hard as before because it annoyed me that people were both using me as a crutch to read him at times and also as a metric to read me; so i stopped focusing on it. what are you talking about? you knew I was mafia all game because my mafia game sucks and I had like a 5 page filter | ||
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On March 31 2016 22:00 Shapelog wrote: Still going to go XCOM on you and call you a alien. ![[image loading]](http://www.matchstickeyes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/XCOM-Thin-Man.jpg) And yeah it is not great logic, but by your own standards, your fucking over us by making you think that you are a vet and that you stopped a KP. Sounds 3rdpartyish move. BUt I did stop a kp | ||
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On March 31 2016 22:09 Shapelog wrote: I think the tell is when he claimed mafia. idk let me read all he has to say, but i feel shaky even trusting a single damm word coming from him. so im mafia with kurimi so im going ot let people know about are plan and put the idea in your heads that im lying? and im with rstoulin? Ya ok bud insert tinfoil hat gif | ||
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On March 31 2016 22:55 Shapelog wrote: I mean, Like i am part french. I am also part native american. Bit of polish. Maybe 1% Spanish. my brother | ||
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and I feel really bad saying this because he seems to be my only friend... Va/ls also fits in this categroy their just sitting back lurking and letting us fight for 150 pages | ||
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On April 01 2016 01:15 scott31337 wrote: I could see OWS as mafia as well if there are two teams, the towncred he has (at least from me) is the TT lynch - I see others have had some mindmelds with him though (was it ritoky?) I won't be around much today - state testing and making sure it goes smooth. HOLY SHIT SCOTTS IN THIS GAME IF I FORGOT | ||
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Thats another point. Rstou/kurimi were more or less found out based on vote logic. Theres alot of value for mafia to lie about them being one team | ||
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On April 01 2016 03:11 Tumblewood wrote: VA is weirdly sure that there are two scum teams Kurumi looks like he's having fun More stuff pending after I think about the game Thats probably what a mafia thats with krurumi would say. hum | ||
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On April 01 2016 06:51 Koshi wrote: You are not reading this game sicklucker. It is kinda obvious. do you want to give examples or just one liners like usual. Koshi we have played over 10 mafia games together and you have never correctly figured out my alignment. ITs hillairious. When im mafai you let me win and when im town you try to lynch me | ||
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On April 01 2016 06:54 Kurumi wrote: Ya'll should switch to sicklucker off me, 'cos I am not scum. I just wanted your attention. like this was obv a joke but he choose me out of everyone... | ||
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On April 01 2016 07:09 Koshi wrote: BASED ON FUCKING WHAT? £AND WE KNOW 100% HE GOT RB'ED YOU FUCK? i saw the evidence it was very inconclusive. vivax literally said hes not telling for whatever fucking reason. Like maybe I didnt stop kp it does not actually matter at this point anyway. I thought I did why else would I ever claim there as any alignment if I didnt acualy think I stoped a shot | ||
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On April 01 2016 07:14 Koshi wrote: Just like I (KOSHI) figured out the 3 fucking vigi kp from town were way too fucking much. I can also tell you with 100.000% certainty that town does not have a fucking medic/rb (that stops kp)/ and an x shot veteran. NOT IN A FUCKING MILLION YEARS. The only fucking thing the claim from sicklucker brought is that KURUMI WAS NOT SUSPICIOUS AS 3rd VIG. So the fact that the role on sicklucker is A FUCKING LIE and it helped mafia kurumi to survive makes sicklucker THE FUCKING AUTO LYNCH. no you didnt I was claiming that since day 1 | ||
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On April 01 2016 07:26 sandroba wrote: Rsoul has a very good vote record iirc. She somehow knew kurumi was mafia as early as day 1. strong player | ||
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On April 01 2016 07:57 Koshi wrote: Him being lonely in the qt could also mean the last mafia doesn't talk there or is a lot afk. i had a similiar thought. which is basicly why i said its lurkers. Like if his team is va/obi its make alot of sense why he would want out. or in this case die so there chances of playing longer is stronger. IF were to believe hes still got 1 or 2 partners its safe to say he wanted out of the game to some degree. a good excuse would be to pretend the team is finished so town can start killing each other on a third party witch hunt. SO who would I have the least faith in or contempt due to inactivtiy in my qt. Probably va /obi / ls. and I would be all about martying to get out of a hopeless game in my mind. Not trying to be offensive just trying to put myself in his shoes sorry. obviously low posters have less thread presence | ||
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On April 02 2016 06:59 Damdred wrote: Protected Rels last night maybe I get lucky. Might not be an sk or prisoner in setup just look for mafia. :O?:O? | ||
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On April 02 2016 07:38 ritoky wrote: i meant about the notifications too this. Like palmar said he wouldnt give notifications. so your telling us palmar is making notifications to wifmo and lie? Like this does not add up im sorry but im on the anti dandred train now. It makes no sense to me | ||
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On April 02 2016 08:00 Koshi wrote: it needs no explanation. Personally I would lynch sicklucker though. im sure if I controlled kp you would not be standing lolz | ||
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On April 02 2016 07:34 Damdred wrote: I changed my protection maybe palmar didn't get it before he made the post. If I,had to,guess it's a double stack as I was told I successfully saved. you should propably confirm this with mod... and if you saved someone else telling us would be a good start | ||
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On April 02 2016 08:22 ritoky wrote: like someone tell me a balanced setup where on n3 after 3 mafia are dead, and there have allegedly been 2 vigi shots and a mafia vigi shot, where there is 3kp...i really would love to hear it. I dont think there was ever 3 kp. ITs possible mafia had a roleblocker tho but then why the hell would palmar pm "saved". Vivax thinking he killed the roleblocker might have just been host wifmo balllony | ||
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On April 02 2016 09:55 ritoky wrote: VA: Town meta - he posted a blanket statement about someone being town or mafia in his first 5 posts: From there he continued to push his rsoul read, and it aligned very much with mine - Both of which I firmly agreed with. Rsoul was clearly pandering to people who would never vote for her anyway due to pure personality stuff to make sure they were on her side and blind to what she was doing. The fact that she pandered so hard to LS too might clear him slightly; dunno I will see when I get to him. This is a little concerning considering at one point rsoul was in very real threat of lynch, she was VA's top scum read or near top scum read and he didn't budge from tumble onto her. And his explanation for not moving is the people who voted on rsoul not looking great: Those people at the time were: me (VT), slam (claimed dayvig), SL (claimed vet), vivax (town), shapelog, and tumble. That is 1 obvious town, 2 claims, 1 guy tunneling the same read as you, 1 guy you never mentioned, and tumble; and they are voting on your top scum read thus far. That doesn't seem like a particular clusterfuck of people. This is kinda sketchy. I remember mind-melding this post when he made it. Because kurumi posted some pretty obscenely bad reads that I thought were just too bad. But now in hindsight this looks worse. You scum read rsoul all game, then elect to not vote on her for questionable reasons instead voting on the guy who got shennanied off of to lynch mafia; then you are defending another mafia immediately after. But then the convo afterwards doesn't sound like a conversation that kurumi has with a partner in thread. It is too scattered to quote it fully, but basically kurumi calls VA opportunistic for town reading him and shitting on his reads post and immediately starts trying to omgus fight with him to which VA says your reads are stupid because you think rsoul and ritoky are together and they never are. Further koshi joining in the shit on ritoky fest just seems needless and dumb so he isn't on a team with them either. Which feels like both a really good observation and not a conversation partners have in thread. My sketched level is slightly lowered. Post-TT he flips his read on rsoul because: Which I can understand to a degree; he then is humongously in favor of a kurumi lynch the following phase after rsoul has died. This is also an incredibly town post since I understand it and have been openly incredibly confused by the setup. Yea I think he is town, sorry for doubting you on your wishy-washy rsoul read. Yup, antagonistic playstyle is more town indicative of VA imo VA feels town to me. The only part I have doubts on is where he got a little wishy-washy and was randomly not voting rsoul for bad reasons even though she was a top scum read of his. The problem with that is that if that makes him mafia, then he is supposedly mafia with rsoul and kurumi; who he scum read most of the game and then advocated a lynch for. So I don't see him being scum with them. Maybe if it is proven to be 2 teams I need to reconsider this read, but I feel comfortable with it for now and I am kinda on the mafia team of 5 + sk bandwagon in my mind atm. I acualy think va is town on rereads. good read imo | ||
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On April 02 2016 13:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Damdred not dying is the biggest question mark, as is his claimed protect on Rels and his subsequent miss. Why exactly Rels would be shot over the claimed doctor that initiated a switch on mafia on day 2 is...More than a little bit strange tbh. what i dont get is if hes not acualy a doctor why he would claim the save on rels and not someone else | ||
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On April 02 2016 13:59 ritoky wrote: why the fuck is SL alive? is this really a qeustion? mafia would never risk having a kp stopped this deep in the game | ||
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On April 02 2016 14:01 ritoky wrote: so mafia allegedly has a means to bypass protection, either through roleblock, strongman, or doublestack.....and they don't shoot damdred, or bypass SL's protection? good point if they had a role blocker I would probably be a nk so I sapose they dont | ||
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ritoky - obv town I think regardless of my read hes never with rstoulin so should be kept around Dandred- ah that should sort itself out va - meh light town read feels like his lynch baity self tbh but I dont claim to read him well ls - a dandred townread can only get you so far I dont even know if I can trust dandred no more and I still think this is your scum game altho I saw reasons to doubt this in like day 2 you have not done anything since and I dont remember you ever being this much of a bystander ever. obi- I have always said I can never read you and thats true. ITs mostly because you never do anything in mafia games ever. But in this game your votes stink, your reads stink and I will never be able to townread you in this game. Its kind of the same for obi/ls I want them out because via poe there mafia alot of the time and I will never ever be able to trust them as town going forward. | ||
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On April 03 2016 15:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Personally I find the level of inactivity at this juncture impressive. I'm the laziest one here and somehow I'm the one trying to move things forward. (Aside from resident shoutyman Koshi.) your not tho. Like both you ls and super have an open forum with my spammy ass bizzy. disappointing Be honest you guys just talked about mtg and weddings. Also Ls receptions are the only thing that matters really | ||
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On April 03 2016 17:41 scott31337 wrote: Two non-town RB's in a [N] does not make sense. Rels dead before Damdred does not make sense either if you are who you say you are. I think SL is 3rd party and he goes first. It's sad I could pretty much vote anyone but Shapelog right now.... wohoh now thats a 180. you were one of my supporters. Now you have ot prove to me this is a real read and not something your just regurgitating if you can | ||
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Lets asume theres a sk which is confirmed I believe. Theres no way palmars gonna make another two mafia faction game right after pyp (which he hated) espeically with a sk. so 1 sk and a team of 3 mafia is never a truth. We killed 3 mafia so the most likely setup we are dealing with now is 5-6 mafia -1sk rest town So 1-3 mafia left (probably 2) 1sk 6-8 towns is the current setup I believe we are in. I think thats the reaslistic setup range we are dealing with here. SO the most likely world is 7 towns 2 mafia 1 sk alive. | ||
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On April 03 2016 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: SL do you actually have some kind of gameplan outside of voting people you can't read? At this rate you're going to be dead long before I am and you're not really convincing anyone to vote me at this rate. are you acualy going to do something so I can townread you? Im pretty sure you should and will get lynched today. Fucking trying to nap and all i hear is some asshole chopping vegatables for 50 minutes | ||
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He does not get mad. he does not omgus. He does not try to read me ever. He has never voted me ever because "he cant read me" He vote me once ever and that was only becuase the entire game told him too. Like this is so obvious sign | ||
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Its in your mafia range because your mad I owned your little friend tina all game long | ||
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On April 04 2016 00:57 Damdred wrote: LS does all that shit as town all the time if that's the only reason you think he's scum you,need to find actual reasons. The only people I would vote today is tumble, va, rit. And confirmed scum do whatever they want tbh, instead of lynching koshi they lynch Tt so it's not like they were super logical that day anyway. your going to ride or die with LS and obi? really? are you a internet mind reader I dont see it. Of your two lynches two are my top towns other then you so I have no idea how we can be on two different spectrums and both be town but i think we are. Well I hope your right since you will decide the lynch today | ||
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Dandred shape ritoky - tumble - va - koshi and you want to lynch all those people. Its amazing but your medic play makes you almost always town so aparently we are very different people | ||
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On April 04 2016 00:58 LightningStrike wrote: Sicklucker stop your stupid WIFOM bull shit now. there is nothing wifmo about my posts fake rager | ||
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On April 04 2016 01:04 LightningStrike wrote: Okay I will ignore you for the rest of this game so I don't have to deal with your stupid brain. haha thats what tina said we all know how that turned out. this is literraly the play by play of tinas reaction to me pinging her out | ||
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On April 04 2016 01:20 Damdred wrote: Add super to the list then I honestly don't know how you can tr va at t gg is point. D1 points to town probably or at the very least not,mafia. D2 points to a null, d3 wash. I probably won't vote for him today. As for tumble him and Tt were dead in the water and tumble still is kinda barely surviving. I can't to an read him when mafia were in bus mode d2 for whatever reason. Rit I don't think,can be mafia, I'm not sure of third party at this point. I'd have to see a convincing case. Besides that I could,lynch super as well though. then why did you just list him as one of three people you want to lynch? | ||
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On April 04 2016 07:13 Palmar wrote: Night 4 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tC9wAUo.png) Tumblewood the Drill Sergeant has been lynched It is now night 4. Night ends in . Please remember the resolution period. lol you acualy did it | ||
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On April 04 2016 07:42 VayneAuthority wrote: somewhere superbia is laughing behind his computer and he somehow escaped another lynch because somehow teamliquid still thinks writing words and having a big filter = auto town. lol wont ever change. im living proof thats not a thing... | ||
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On April 04 2016 01:38 Superbia wrote: Like normally I can find people who agree with me. Especially at this point in the game. Where the fuck is town even at? Ask yourself this. What game are you playing? What makes me mafia? ............................................................................. your right but you just voted a confirmed town with them | ||
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On April 04 2016 03:44 Koshi wrote: Lynching tumble is the most retarded thing ever. 2 mafia joined his wagon superlate. And I think I was the counterwagon? Oh well. Maybe they wanted to kill him. we are one all of a sudden (minus are targets) | ||
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On April 04 2016 08:05 Damdred wrote: They still have a rb I believe so obviously I will be alive. I'm nonchalant because it's not a big deal it is just a game. One people like myself screw up on. I think thats very unlikely it was probably just a rels doublestack 2kp to one is probably a thing. But if you truly believe it save me and then I will have 2 shields :D | ||
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On April 04 2016 08:18 VayneAuthority wrote: actually this makes a lot of sense and database confirms it. Damdred plays really troll/no emotion as scum. You people need to seriously consider it if hes still alive tomorrow. I hear ya but dont bring this stuff up it just gives mafia a guidemap on who to nightkill to get your vote if hes not mafia | ||
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On April 04 2016 04:31 ritoky wrote: ##vote: lightningstrike you should too. competent player tho never lynch and can you guys start listening to me? Like im right once again as a sit back and cant do anything as you lynch my town reads. Its sad really | ||
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On April 04 2016 05:29 LightningStrike wrote: Fuck it is can't be bothered to keep phone on to defend myself from a piece of shit player who won't be in a championship game because he is garbage. Good bye I hope you flip scum. scum. like this is not Lightnigstrike rofl | ||
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On April 04 2016 06:12 ritoky wrote: SL, why are you not invested in this deadline? you did this last game. I gave you fucking 48 hour warning that I wouldnt be here my plans acualy feel through but my sleep scedule was fucked and jetalgged. then you all didnt vote till 6 hours left. not my fault | ||
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On April 04 2016 07:26 Koshi wrote: I posted the entire phase reasoning to vote ritoky. I didn't know you could only turn on your brain on the last 1 hour of the fucking 48 hour cycle. My bad. gtfo this x10000. Honestly whats the point of the first 36 hours of these games. Days probably need to be shortened | ||
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On April 05 2016 07:26 Shapelog wrote: As much as i like seeing my scum read flip 3rd party. Who shot him? mafias kp is missing so obviously they did? cool we win thanks mafia | ||
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On April 05 2016 07:34 Shapelog wrote: Wait, Why would mafia X shot into who they would think is third party? I mean if he was SK or a killing role, most time those are immune and would waste a shot. Also, were did super's hit land? we dont know they thought he was third party. what we know is that he dodged a lynch so they might have seen him as unlynchable. BUt since mafia saw they couldnt lynch him they decided to nk him. But that could mean they thought he was a strong town or an obvious third party. only mafia knows | ||
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On April 05 2016 07:37 VayneAuthority wrote: damdred needs to explain his role in full asap I can't make any further posts without it. so cya later for now why is dandred not claiming who he saved today? you know you have a medic save like 80% of the time right? wtf. even if super died his kp should have gone off | ||
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On April 05 2016 07:42 Shapelog wrote: Unless it is a team of 5 + sk. but that would be 15 vs 6 which seems off. nope thats the world were living in I called it since 2 or 3 days ago. ITs not unbalanced at all. sk can target both alignments equaly so hes a null factor. 15-vs5 favors town for sure. 15-v6 is possible | ||
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On April 05 2016 05:48 LightningStrike wrote: It's about Koshi sicklucker and reactions I found their reaction to the lynch very strange. They wanted a different lynch yet they didn't try to stop the lynch on Tumblewood. Do you think any of them are scum for their reaction to Tumblewood's lynch and lack of attempt to stop his lynch? I tried very hard to lynch you. I hard defended tumble. plz die | ||
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On April 05 2016 06:15 Shapelog wrote: Eh, Well Koshi was weireding me out about pushing after Rels died (the manner he did it) but i had to realize that it was Koshi we were talking about, and once he started talking about Sk = Riks i kinda ignore it. The Yelling and screaming thing he did after Tumble's lynch was something i could see him doing as town and therefore will always be WIFOM to discuss, since we cannot actually determine anything from it, and is mostly based on bias rather than fact. About SL, he didn't really complain much about the lynch. Like he had 3 posts even talking about the lynch. the only thing that i notice quote on quote weird was that he was "mad" about the lynch, but yet wasn't focused enough to it to only do that. He was jumpy a bit. Other than that i do not find it sus, and what i did find could be explain either way. YES I FUCKING CARED. i gave oyu guys 48 hours warning I wouldnt be here for the lynch. 8 hours before I was trying very hard to get my way. ITs not my fault you guys only know how to play mafia for 30 minutes a day at the lynch time | ||
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On April 05 2016 00:08 Superbia wrote: I'm not even in a team. HAHAHA no kidding get wrecked nerd | ||
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On April 05 2016 09:56 LightningStrike wrote: Okay promise me you quit mafia when you see me flip VT. pinky swear | ||
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On April 05 2016 14:22 Damdred wrote: 9/10 its honestly probably shape he's been super right all game but I just don't care. I claimed my role, and like I said yesterday some things go over the line. I give ls shit because I love the guy and I want the best for him. I think he knows that whenever we talk outside the game. You've been shit all game va and I agreed with you before the day phase. You won't drop it that my role can be used in an anti town way if mafia has to much information so just go away id rather get lynched. I don't even think your scum really I just think your full of shit. wut? how can it be shape you have a near confirmed save on him. are you a jailkeeper? | ||
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On April 05 2016 16:57 Koshi wrote: Ok I don't get Damdred his role. He protects JAT N1. Damdred gets a message he successfully protected JAT. He is still protecting JAT N2. JAT dies N2. Why? He protects Rels N3. Rels died. This happens: He protected Shape N4. Shape was not saved. So now mafia knows Shape is always protected. oh ya... wtf | ||
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On April 05 2016 22:44 Damdred wrote: Also SL nobody shot shape last night well if you were a normal medic... | ||
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On April 05 2016 23:09 Shapelog wrote: Unless if super hit a immune person... idk, the KP is missing, and i forgot that TT could be a Rb (with all that vivax hinting) and mafia lost a rb. we dont know TT was a roleblocker man. You think palmar wouldnt mindgame us on that? You think thats below him? are you following this games mechanics? | ||
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On April 05 2016 23:47 VayneAuthority wrote: I dont know man. 8 blues just seems so absurd in a 21 player game I can't get over it. Damdred's role doesnt add up but its true that he is probably town from the mod message. Looking over slam's filter he doesnt seem like he was mafia. and SL most likely took a shot day 1. so the reason nobody died n1 except stutters is because SL took a shot, vivax RB'd kurumi, and damdred saved somebody correct? that accounts for all 3 kp from mafia/3rd party and confirms damdred/SL. I Think I want to lynch scott but have like 30% confidence in that. did you not get the memo that the previous two other storm games has 8+ blues? because that is a thing whats not to understand? | ||
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On April 05 2016 23:49 VayneAuthority wrote: the weirdest role by far is tumblewood. never said once he was anything or crumbed it. No fucking idea what his role is probably useless then. Town vigs are barely net neutral. Really we had two useful power roles if you think about it. power roles are overated. Vigs are only net postive in a good players hand. Dandreds a pretty nerfed medic. The rest of the roles were so bad they didnt do anything or claim. | ||
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On April 06 2016 00:04 VayneAuthority wrote: yea no reading his early filter ritoky can't be mafia. this is bad as well. I don't know who the last mafia is honestly. lightning strike? obi? How are they even town I been trying to poe them for 3 days lemme know when your on board | ||
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On April 06 2016 04:17 Damdred wrote: Question I think sand said he had a second bullet at dome point. I wish he could of confirmed before he died. Does this change the thought of a day vig? If he does have two bullets only after a ml that would give town three shots. Seems meh how does no one remember sands role... Everytime a vt died he had a shot. so he potentially had unlimited shots | ||
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On April 06 2016 06:29 ritoky wrote: I have requested my own sub, ban, or modkill in multiple games for my attitude; feel free to ask hosts. It is also unfortunate the I grew up in a time where "retarded" was ground into my vernacular by shear exposure when I was young. Habits are hard to remove. your not wrong but its sounded like frustrated mafia to me | ||
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On April 06 2016 06:36 ritoky wrote: Me. I made an agleshooting play that mafia is incapable of making, particularly at the speed in which it was made, and my whole game, while lacking from a "wholistic" point of view, has been devoted to trying to lynch mafia. First I devoted everything to try and lynch rsoul who many of you called near confirmed town, now it is LS who the majority of you are soft or hard defending for the same reasons rsoul was defending him. Until there's proven to be 2 mafias I am incapable of ever being considered mafia due to my casing and pushing of rsoul. Anyone who considers otherwise (alive or dead) is scum or intentionally throwing as town. do you really believe that? I wanna read you town as I have all game but your making it hard all of a sudden. What you did is a very easy thing for mafia to do if they are given proper fakeclaims which they should be. Its very similar to something you have done in previous games and I still townread you and you still bitch | ||
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On April 06 2016 06:39 VayneAuthority wrote: Just don't make yourself out to be our lord and savior -_- If we banned everyone that used words like retarded the playerbase would be 10 people I tried to use other words not just because I knew ls would take offense. I dont think I said it once. Probably equally bad words tho I remember koshi once said "he called me something that he ment as r word" lulz | ||
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On April 06 2016 07:00 ritoky wrote: Anyways, I think there's only 1 kp left in mafia, as after a mild amount of consideration and not reading, I think that whoever came up with the "mirrored roles" idea is probably right. Sandroba had 2 shots (claimed it at some point) activated upon town lynches. My guess is mafia had the same role, 2 shots activated upon mafia lynches. Both shots have been used after both mafia were lynched. We are likely facing a team of 2 who has 1 kp left. NOOOOOO and we lynched mafia the day he died i believe | ||
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On April 06 2016 16:50 Koshi wrote: VayneAuthority Damdred ObiWanShinobi Koshi ritoky sicklucker Shapelog LightningStrike For me I don't think LightningStrike is mafia. If I am wrong I am wrong but you wont have my support on that lynch. You can convince me by showing posts from rsoultin that make LS mafia. Or a combination of other good reasons. I haven't seen any. His 1v1 against ritoky is something odd, but it comes from the fact he thinks people scumread them both. I don't fully understand why he says they can't be mafia together or that there is 1 mafia between them. I don't understand how he finds that logical. I don't want to lynch VA. It's pure paranoia about playing good scum that I could consider him. I have not encountered a good enough reason to lynch him. Maybe some "wrong" posts but townies make "wrong" posts. Because they don't have full information. Shapelog.... Never mafia over other people. Never mafia anyway. Damdred. Why is he not dead? Makes no sense. Modconfirmed? There is no reasoning in the thread to why he is mafia xcept him being alive & him playing terrible. But then again, the being terrible part is maybe the reason why he is alive. So you can't really use both reasons. oh boy... sicklucker.... I think he could be mafia. I think he fakeclaimed to save Kurumi. There are more reasons. I am not sure out of ritoky/sicklucker who looks the best bussing rsoultin. Would be nice if somebody looked into sicklucker again. And if one of the 3 flipped mafia spewed him town. oh so im def lynching Ls in trend with you being wrong about everything  <3 altho if I was a survivor I would just side with town obv so dont worry about it | ||
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On April 06 2016 18:12 Koshi wrote: IF THIS FUCKER HAD THE TOWN ROLE PM MAFIA HAD THEM thats a good point... | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:30 Koshi wrote: LighteningStrike being SECOND on the TT lynch is really unlikely mafia play. but wasint dandred first? him following dandred is something hes always going to do as town and mafia | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:33 Koshi wrote: +1 But what the fuck is Palmar doing entering the fucking game to explain a miscommunication Damdred received over a potential save. That can never happen if Damdred didn't actually received a message about a successful save. Maybe? do you wanna gamble the game on it. Mafia have doctors too. but yes its a very low percentage bad play | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:39 Koshi wrote: Vivax was first. LS second, some townies 3 and 4 I think, Damdred was 5th, OWS 6th, Koshi 7th, rsoultin 8th i think dandred prevoted and ls will always sheep regardless. Maybe he was just sheeping vivax. Its not strong no time to check. die | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:45 Koshi wrote: Ok what if mafia Damdred has been saving townies from the SK? The thought has crossed my mind | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:47 Damdred wrote: I just literally said I don't know. And I thought Ows would of gotten the joke since he was in ippo when bats had the power. I don't want to lynch ls, or va. Or scott how you can think there more likely town then me and koshi is acualy bat shit crazy tho lol | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:48 VayneAuthority wrote: if i was playing true vayne style i would still lynch scott here, i think the setup is ridiculous but i dont think anyone agrees with me I think scotts getting dumb town reads now that I think about it. But theres still acualy no reason to think hes mafia | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:49 Koshi wrote: Did you ritoky god read disappear or something? good fucking point. you always have a town read on him every game | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:50 Koshi wrote: Silent vigi on day 1. That is not fucking mafia ever. I dont think so. BUT i thought the way he used it was always town | ||
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On April 07 2016 06:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Are you talking about banks in that other Ver game or something? you were in that? ;p I love banks hes my boy | ||
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On April 07 2016 07:09 Koshi wrote: I am not pushing a lynch in any game anymore. Next games I join I will just be an observer. How was he not mafia. I don't know. its ok you can afk lynch Ls as you promised (im such an angle shooter) | ||
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On April 07 2016 07:12 LightningStrike wrote: I going to ruin the TL Scum claim now I guess just so we don't need them anymore: ![[image loading]](http://insidescoopsf.sfgate.com/files/2012/02/baby-seal.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Y1IB34y.gif) | ||
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On April 07 2016 07:21 LightningStrike wrote: Why Palmar is scum this game: 1. First off he made the Storm Mafia series. 2. Must of given me the wrong role pm because apparently ritoky is town unless he gave ritoky the wrong role pm. 3. The modconfirming of Damdred which something I don't expect from a town Palmar to do. I rest my case here. koshi alert | ||
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On April 07 2016 07:27 LightningStrike wrote: If I flip town what will you do? Because I going to flip VT unless Palmar corrects the role pm that I should of gotten at the start of the game. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/y4nRMlj.gif) | ||
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On April 08 2016 05:28 Shapelog wrote: Never mind comrades, it appears that I misremebered. I thought Comrade SL posted more of these kind of posts, yet he only posted the one. I felt it was strange, that on the night he was "shot", he had posted (remember I misremembered comrade) a lot of posts saying how mafia rsoul was going to shoot him. Which sounded like a play to me, since already 2 other scumlovishs claimed blue roles, and perhaps their idea was to swarm the thread to where one would be confirm town, which would explain also the weirdiness of someone like kuru's claiming time. Which actually, scumlovishs Rsoul and kuru doesn't actually fit with comrade SL, so idk why i thought of a crazy play they would do. Eh, maybe something to do with Sumlovish Kuru's "Big plays" death rant he was doing. I was going to look at those posts and his reactions towards it, yet comrade Saltshaker didn't do that much about that. (above type of post comrade) Eh. I look anyways at comrades SaltShakers reaction to getting shot again and see if it lines up with the above. Pretty sure it does. OR MAYBE. JUST MAYBE. BEAR WITH ME WERE GOING TO CRAZY TOWN HERE SHPAE LOG ARE YOU READY? IS YOUR ANUS RDY? + Show Spoiler + rstoulin was mafia and she did shoot me | ||
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On April 08 2016 05:37 Shapelog wrote: Oh Da! I remember why i thought of Comrade SL for that. Goes way back when i said the scumblovish kuru had a secret agenda and that it involved Comrade SL somehow, whether it was to defend or to attack. Eh the way the Scumblovish attacked SL and voted for him felt weird, yet i really can't image a reason why he would do that. Wait, Comrades, didn't SL complain about not lynching rik and following his case about why rik was scum? no I knew ritoky was town and said so all game because im not terrible and all my reads have been correct that fliped. Yes I did vote for him but only as the 7th vote and because koshi promised to sheep me on the obvious mafia :D | ||
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I think you need to save one one of va or scott maybe obi. Whatever one you think would be nked as town but that you also mafia read. IF your wrong and there not nked it makes it much more likely there mafia. SO when they die the next day its a very value kill | ||
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Likelyhood of getting shot from least likely to most likely Shapelog SaltShaker dandred? - if my theory og them dragging you alone so shapelogs death secures them the game ls-lynchbait or mafoa obi - lynchbait or mafia koshi? - even tho hes town so im probably wrong on this one and if you apear tpo follow my plan they would just kill koshi scott/va- seems likely if they are town purely as a dodge to everyone else I donno man if i were you I would save/murder va and throw a curveball into mafias plan | ||
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On April 08 2016 06:21 Damdred wrote: Why would shape be getting shot here with a medic in the game unless you know something ls? Personally I'd look into koshi or someone who has a lot of town reads going on atm. The super kill sort of means mafia thinks they can ride the game out on cred I think. Or they are in a stronger spot which sort of indicates someone largely town read (va or koshi) Or a blue claim, (me Scott and sl). I don't think Obi or ls are scum here though I've sucked this game pretty hard core. I also think th sat the blue claims are pretty ok so far, Scott's is most suspect atm I guess. Like if it's obi or ls what's the end game? If there is one scum no way either can win in this situation I think. D2 vote is really weird from a mafia perspective as well. I never said shape was getting killed you probably read my list backwords.. anyway just pretend like you understand my very smart plan so mafia does something dumb with the nk ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/l2XHFm8.gif) | ||
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On April 08 2016 06:36 Damdred wrote: Shape isn't on life support though. I can save myself. huh? didnt you save him my bad | ||
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Me you , shape , koshi one of va and scott is auto. kill the other 3 | ||
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hum. Think town killed one mafia this game and it was by acidient. im so glad mafia won this couldnt stand all the town siding nut huggers in the qt! | ||
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wow pure hatred we could have worked together! | ||
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As someone who has no idea how setups are made what do you expect third partys expected winrate to be? Now 33% seems a little much but 12% seems really low. Not only do I have to be the last player alive basicly but I had to dodge two inct roles mafia kp town kp. and If im ever shot im pretty much outed or on lifesupport for a day. 12% might be generous | ||
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On April 16 2016 11:26 Tumblewood wrote: 100% confirmed town forever: 4/4 correct Also probably town: 2/4 correct (missed Shape because Shape, missed SL because I didn't put 2 and 2 together) Not lynching: 3/3 correct, if you count that as a town pool Scum pool 1: prediction correct, if you count 3P as scum Scum pool 2: same you had me as probable town? dont see a problem thats basicly what a third party looks like. id call that correct | ||
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On April 16 2016 12:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am not being a cunt. I am saying two things: 1) Being and SK (which is normal) even with a vest is worse than being an SK with a jailkeeper WITH you. Complaining about 3p balance in this case is just ridiculous. 2) You got away with your claim, sure. Well played sir! (or idk if it was though since mafia wanted to rolecop you on N1 anyways). You shouldn't have though. you brought up a random insult just to be mean. no one was remotely talking about my play this game like at all. | ||
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