TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3

On March 22 2016 08:42 rsoultin wrote:
/in

i'll just pull out if i have to -throws shoes at lexy-

On March 24 2016 17:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Gumshoe making me rethink convictions over here. Hmm.

Must sleep on it, real quick

On March 24 2016 22:17 Damdred wrote:
Also koshi looks town to so that's good I think

On March 24 2016 10:56 Alakaslam wrote:
I expect things to fire up soon.

On March 24 2016 10:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Within about 8 hours. This is a claim of sorts.

Take it for what it is, I'll be back soon.

On March 24 2016 11:29 Alakaslam wrote:

there are more meanings to this statement, especially with it's timing.

Indeed,
Things have

Started.

On March 24 2016 11:36 Alakaslam wrote:
y'all gotta find out how fast fast is

On March 24 2016 12:52 Alakaslam wrote:

Should have waited for this

Would have shot this

Clearly not reading. Too late though

On March 24 2016 17:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Gumshoe making me rethink convictions over here. Hmm.

Must sleep on it, real quick

On March 24 2016 22:24 Damdred wrote:
I think rels rit already explained why he did it, while its a bit meh explanation it makes sense from either alignment rit should just know better than that meh.

Besides that what do you think of people jumping on the gumshoe wagon so fast? Any opinions on those people so far?

On March 24 2016 22:28 LightningStrike wrote:

Meh they were very subtle well played on that.... Anyways any other thoughts atm?

On March 24 2016 22:32 Damdred wrote:
Not sure its the attitude RS, his spat with koshi to made me go probably town.

I'm not sure if scum gets vt pms anyway for fake claiming meh, just seems like needless stuff for rit to do.

On March 24 2016 22:33 Superbia wrote:
rso/rels what's your read on me.

Damdred why are you reading me town?

On March 24 2016 22:33 LightningStrike wrote:

:\ Okay..... Do you think the gunshoe shot was good or bad and why?

On March 24 2016 22:36 rsoultin wrote:


<3 ^^

On March 24 2016 22:36 Superbia wrote:


That's good. It's the respect read I was fishing for.

Why is Kosher town?

On March 24 2016 22:44 Superbia wrote:


All right. That makes more sense.

Rels/Rso, is Koshi prone to lash out without thinking about logic? Or is he more prone to think before he posts? As town.

On February 19 2016 01:16 Palmar wrote:
My games generally do not have activity requirements or mandatory voting. Additionally, I do not replace people out unless it's in extreme circumstances. To balance this out I usually provide town with tools to get rid of worthless players (mislynches, vigis).

On the other hand, I'm surprised I modkill so little, one of my mantras in hosting has always been "Don't be afraid of modkilling people" I can and I will modkill people. Turns out I don't have to do it very often.

On March 24 2016 22:58 Superbia wrote:
Rels, talk to me.

What do you think of rso? Feels like the two of you are getting friendly pretty quickly in this thread. Do you feel like you're both the same alignment?

On March 24 2016 23:49 LightningStrike wrote:

Okay this very bad. Why vote for someone if you didn't read much of the thread?

On March 25 2016 00:29 Koshi wrote:
:D
I know. Rels will react the same.

On March 24 2016 10:57 Alakaslam wrote:
Within about 8 hours. This is a claim of sorts.

Take it for what it is, I'll be back soon.

On March 24 2016 17:51 Alakaslam wrote:
Gumshoe making me rethink convictions over here. Hmm.

Must sleep on it, real quick

On March 25 2016 01:00 justanothertownie wrote:

Since you just looked at it - when did he make this post about rsoultin where he says "too late now"? Was this before the second quote? Because if that is the case this is really odd.

On March 25 2016 01:50 sicklucker wrote:
so what we know about slam is that he had to maybe shoot 8 hours in advance? (that sounds more like a townie role because a mafia would know whos town so I feel like its only a role that would be given to town.

What we dont know is if slam had to fire 4 hours into the game because doing that was so bad that I think it was part of his role.

On March 25 2016 01:53 sicklucker wrote:
Why I already know hes town

On March 25 2016 01:55 sicklucker wrote:
Like you cant tell me the way he used his role or the drawbacks his role seem to have are something a mafia alignment would have or do. (did I read slam for once?) damn

On March 25 2016 02:00 sicklucker wrote:
Damn I almost voted you rels but I found one thing I really liked

On March 25 2016 02:23 Shapelog wrote:

Irony.
+ Show Spoiler +

On March 25 2016 02:26 Koshi wrote:
Rels is mafia, the shut the fuck up is completely out of place and I saw him do that in Star Wars mafia. Wrongly called him town for that behaviour.

Kurumi his post is indeed good.

Both players get swapped in the list.

On March 25 2016 06:15 Shapelog wrote:

But then why did you post this?

It tech. gives him a out.

I will admit that the irony thing was a semi-joke though.

On March 25 2016 03:07 Alakaslam wrote:

Do that then because that's been proven so effective, JAT, and will secure a town win.

Fuck this bullshit, you butthurt idiots are so everywhere that I lose all motive to cooperate. No hate @ Superbia, Vivax, Kurumi, etc who convinced me the guy could very likely be scum, nooooooooo hate the shooter and policy lynch even though he
1. Breadcrumbed enough that you all knew it was me
2. Told people to think about what a gumshoe flip would tell them (but was clearly ignored)


No that's a policy lynch that will help us win because he will still be a destructive force in the game, because multi shot vigs are totally possible.

you are going to make not breaking the rules really damned hard.

On March 24 2016 22:14 Rels wrote:

Assuming you shot gumshoe, which is 99% likely given your weird posts before, you need to claim exactly why you did it and how that works. Apparently you had the opportunity to cancel it ? You thought about it and didn't ?

On March 25 2016 03:39 Alakaslam wrote:

Cannot shoot after day1,
Suspected one of either Gumshoe or Kurumi,
Felt that Gumshoe was not adding useful talk and being distracted by my old meta.

Who is crying so hard?

"Slam shot wrong dude plynch him now"

Vindictive AND an asshole, I see. Take a higher road than I take in every way or not at all.

On March 25 2016 06:29 LightningStrike wrote:

What would scum!Slam benefit from shooting Town!Gun so early? I don't see much benefit at all from scum!Slam atm.

On March 25 2016 04:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
it's not too crazy to be scum lets be clear about that. If he truly follows the house of brown, chezinu is infamous for making super scummy ridiculous plays as scum.

On the other hand, i have little to no interest in lynching slam today but maybe later once i get a better feel of the roles in this game and people's sentiments.

On March 25 2016 06:33 LightningStrike wrote:

Because shooting a inactive would give 0 information except their alignment that is it. Like you probably didn't see this but when I was a Gunsmith I gave Marv a gun I told him not to shoot scott because he was a inactive and he did so anyways...

On March 25 2016 06:35 Superbia wrote:
Tiiiiired.

Did not like slam's reaction. Felt like forced emotional tailored to withhold info (we still don't know that much about his role, though I believe he dropped the hint that he has multiple shots?). Was expecting more info. Also no idea why he's reacting that strongly if he's town.

JAT is.. okay? I feel conflicted. On the one hand I like his aggression and pro-activeness. On the other I don't really like the direction he's taking it in. I feel like this is more his town game than his mafia however (i.e. I think we approach the game differently as town). Kind of town-lean for now.

I feel like a lot (1-2) of people are taking my stance on Koshi as me reading him mafia. That is incorrect. I have a town lean on Koshi.

Also some other stuff but I forgot. Around to chill and talk for a bit when gf is not distracting me. Maybe will get some dive-energy later.

On March 25 2016 06:42 Superbia wrote:


But was there a time limit? I don't get shooting in the first 8 hours. I thought this would be clarified by slam through some role-mechanics thing.

For JAT: I'm finding it hard to put into words. I understand why he would push me on the rso push like that from a possible-town's perspective, but I find it hard to find the direction his mindset is going after that.

Tbf I feel like there is a rso/JAT/rels(you) circle going on which is going on ritoky(nono)/slam. Let me know if I'm reading that wrong.

On March 25 2016 06:49 ritoky wrote:
because i don't think you have the stones to claim not town as mafia that early into the game and then do some weirdly bad rescindy stuff. i mean it is in my filter in a spoiler on a big reads post.

On March 25 2016 06:13 Kurumi wrote:


The formula is usually Players/5 rounded down, so that'd be 4 Mafia this game, was there a third party in either of Storm Mafias?




Well, I think that they'd use the momentum created by the shot to some end. I have not seen that in the thread, people are not really reading Slam as scum, people are not super focused on people who were pushing gumshoe, I think if Mafia shot gum, they'd want the discussion to be on those points, not any others like we have right now. That's just the world I am in.



Read my posts again(not skim!) so you can have a good town read on me, because my filter defends itself without any problems. Just because I have not coloured every of my reads or made a list of them doesn't mean they are not there.

Gumshoe's filter wasn't really that exciting besides him sharing my suspicions on both Koshi and sicklucker, he did not have time to bring anything new to the table sadly. His last couple of posts was finally something I expected out of him. He also looked like agreeing with me more and more. On the topic of sicklucker:
What was good in my post you quoted?
What are your scumreads and why?
I don't like that you just quoted my entire post and said it was good while not really pushing anyone or anything in the thread.

I am also let down by Alakaslam, he could've said that we have a way to kill two D1, basically a double lynch and we could just make him shoot the second person in line... Why the bloodlust Slam, why?! It's so anti-town the only reason I think you are Town is that noone is trying to capitalize on it...

For the last 20 minutes I've been looking for a post suggesting that scum's KP is up for them to decide whether to use it day or night, it felt like hardcore slip, but then I might've dreamt it...

On March 25 2016 06:57 ritoky wrote:


i spelled it out multiple times, but sure.

i am vt, i know nothing about the setup since it is closed. i have been in closed setups that are basically the same as a normal game and closed setups with 20 players, 19 of which are roles or mafia. i wanted to gauge the nature of how many PRs were in the game while locating all the VTs and narrowing down my potential mafia greatly.

so i angle shot using the name of the role, assuming all town roles are named the same thing and that mafia either didn't get fake role pms or were too careless to reference them and understand what i was doing before it was already too late. the goal was to utilize the picture of the expedition, have people understand it, realize expedition was also in their role pm, and start forming a coalition of townies who understood we were all town based on the understanding of the expedition. from there you have a large block of people who identify eachother as near lock town and there is a vast amount of control over the day phase because of it as well as a smaller pool of people for potentially mafia. it forces mafia into an awkward spot where they have to choose to not PR hunt and leave PRs alive thus costing them a great deal or leave this large block of semi-confirmed townies alive and concede a ton of day phase control. the mafia lose something large either way.

i think it is a pretty well devised plan, apparently i am alone.

On March 25 2016 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:

But here is the problem:

You as an experienced players should not assume that mafia has no fakeclaims or knowledge about roles. Especially when 2 of the most experienced people of the community are hosting. It is really hard to believe.

On March 24 2016 08:45 ritoky wrote:


damdred is probably not VT, burgeoning on almost certainly not. you might be VT.

On March 24 2016 08:54 ritoky wrote:


re LS: assuming a conclusion before asking for clarification, bad mindset. potentially mafia mindset.

re damdred: his reaction to my role claim makes him unlikely VT. i don't usually post pictures without a point or for a laugh.

no further thoughts.

On March 25 2016 07:17 ritoky wrote:


don't care why i posted them, i did; honestly don't give a fuck anymore. people shitting on a great idea simply because they don't like angle shooting or it is not "standard play". great plan.

GREAT PLAN

On March 25 2016 07:22 ritoky wrote:


who cares if 2 blues die if you have idk....8 semi-confirmed townies operating as a voting block.....do you seriously undervalue townies knowing with 95% certainty who eachother are that much...just absolutely mindblowing....

people are so opposed to making plays for terrible reasons and they are eeyores about it on top of it.

On March 25 2016 07:25 ritoky wrote:


because the car picture wasn't getting enough traction on it's own and it was too ambiguous and people didn't care. i wanted to indicate i was making a play to others. in reality simply closing the thread and leaving it sitting there would have had the same or greater effect over time as jat said, but i have trouble remaining inactive

On March 25 2016 07:30 Alakaslam wrote:
I can't load much but I felt it dutiful to state that I had really been agreeing with Kurumi when I submitted my shot but my being the power takes the rap.

So it is what it is I will keep up in the future but cba to read all the bs before now.

Blame yourself for being so goddamn fucking hostile.

On March 25 2016 07:30 ritoky wrote:


you're being so thick it is painful. blue or red, not blue firstly. and it is an indicator of differentiated response to the play i am making hey look at this VT response, look at this non-VT response. HEY ALL VTs I AM MAKING A PLAY AROUND US, READ YOUR FUCKING ROLE PM AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING.

that didn't happen. blew my wad. should have closed the thread.

On March 25 2016 12:25 Tumblewood wrote:
I feel like I need a justification every time I'm AFK.

On March 25 2016 13:25 Tictock wrote:


Yea... this isn't actually happening

On March 26 2016 04:53 Damdred wrote:
No mod kills in this game.

I liked his thoughts and back and forth jat not exactly the reasoning. Anyone can post a case.

I don't know if I like a RS wagon today though.

On March 25 2016 00:15 Damdred wrote:
I'm not giving a RS read yet because lynching her d1 isn't a good thing probably plus mafia will get tired of her spamming and shoot her anyway.

Lots of town reads so far its sort of surreal though super being bad towards me without any real reasoning is concerning to say the least.

On March 26 2016 05:10 sandroba wrote:
I'll keep my vote on rsoul. I'm going out now so I hope you guys lynch her.
The shapelog read which I questioned I don't think was ever explained properly. The ritoky read is apparently even stronger than I thought and it looks fake to me. Again she only believes he is mafia because his "plan was bad" and "ritoky should know better" "he is balsy enough to do it as mafia" which none of it actually means someone is mafia. She is actually ignoring very good posts by ritoky which should at least make you unsure about him being mafia :



Now her new read is kurumi is scum which is a cop out. Kurumi is very unlikely scum in this spot, and besides his posting size nothing he actually wrote is bad if you cared to read it. It's kind of unprecedented levels of effort by kurumi and I get where he is comming from when he gets angry about people attacking him for putting an effort. I don't think rsoul has even bothered to filter her own scum read, as she accused shapelog of doing.
My vote stays.

On March 26 2016 06:10 justanothertownie wrote:

We are not lynching VA. Stutters is pure policy and maybe we have a vig for him or something.

On March 25 2016 01:24 Tubesock wrote:
Good morning.

Kurumi is my biggest scum read. Seems opportunistic with the Gumdrops push. Damdred was fishing (but not for roles) and it didn't seem Gums was saying Damdred was fishing for that, but Kurumi jumps his ass. Meanwhile Ritoky ACTUALLY fishes for roles yet all Kurumi says is "very vary of Ritoky". The rest of Kurumi's posts seem nitpicky.

Tumble and Shape are forgettable and blending.

I'm going to leave Koshi at null. I'm not liking his "play" but I did like his little outburst of emotion. Although, I find it hard to believe that can't be faked.

As far as town I think my strongest TR's are Superbia, Vivax just below Jat and Rels. Damdred with a town lean.

Ritoky probably is in fact VT.

Slam I think is probably town. I am having trouble seeing the point of breadcrumbing so much if he were mafia. Why not just shut up and blow someone up? I do want to hear his explanation.

On March 26 2016 00:11 Tubesock wrote:
Concerning Ritoky. I may have fell for the ole caps lock trick. I felt he was sincere, but I do know he's a good liar and not at all above doing something like this as mafia. Hmm.

I agree with too much of Tumble's stuff (aside from Rels/Kurumi reads) so I can't vote him.

I don't neccessarily think Rels is mafia just that he's null to me. Same with SL and LS and to some extent Rso. Mostly I don't bother trying to read them till later in the game (SL, LS, Rso).

Anyway, Going to work, voting Kurumi.

On March 25 2016 23:53 Tubesock wrote:


I thought Gum was a little weird and overexplainy. And would have thought he was scum if Kurumi didn't jump on him the way he did. Gums wasn't doing anything, maybe trying to push the thread along and being around to show towniness but I didn't think it was the same level as a normal town typically does. Kurumi jumped in, overexplained, nitpicked, and just piled on whatever shit he could.

On March 26 2016 00:00 Tubesock wrote:
Gums had votes on him already and was in danger. Why would anyone need to go all super giant case on the guy with what like 36 hours left in the day? If you are looking for someone to just lynch, then sure, secure that shit right away. But if you're town, I'd think you'd want to find out more and gain truth.

On March 26 2016 06:36 Superbia wrote:
Everyone stop lurking. I know there are 4 people who still need to vote. Your fucking late arrival is absolutely unacceptable.

On March 26 2016 06:39 Superbia wrote:


Hey at least I had my vote in already. I was planning to arrive 30m ago but meh. I'm not even sure who I want the wagon on at this point in time. Probably tumblewood but lots of people are calling him town so idk. I would prefer an RSO lynch over a tubesock lynch at this point in time.

On March 26 2016 06:43 Superbia wrote:


I don't even read tube in any particular way (i.e. I don't really have a read on him at all). Also wagon was formed rather quickly and I do not recall anyone feeling particularly strong about him at all during the course of the day. So feels like pile-on votes. But whatever. 20m in a 21 player game is not enough time to do anything. He will probably flip town and rso will probably have to be shot or checked during the night.

On March 26 2016 06:25 Rels wrote:

The biggest thing for him being scum is this post. A lot of hours after its first reason to scumread Kurumi, tube is still stuck with the same reasonning. His scumread is not evolving with the thread.
Futhermore, there is also the fact that he is so focused on only a couple people. Plus the read switch on me. Plus the "I would have scumread gumshoe if Kurumi didn't jump on him" sentence with doens't make sense.

On March 27 2016 01:41 Damdred wrote:
Nope your just super low impact, your reads don't line up well with anything. Your reaction plus lack of followup seem fake totally against what you do.

And really you aren't pushing the game forward at all.

@Sand maybe your right I read his filter again and something in it makes me reconsider him not being town.

On March 29 2016 01:45 Koshi wrote:

Pretty sure I have never claimed medic save.
I am also not 3rd party. But I guess that is where your mind goes when you know I am not mafia and I am not playing my town meta :D

On March 29 2016 06:17 ritoky wrote:
as a side note, rels having a case against him and being afk the entire phase but getting 0 lynch traction reinforces my belief that there is a strong likelihood he is mafia.

On March 29 2016 06:32 ritoky wrote:


damdred's filter and my filter. mine is 2 posts about you reading LS, damdred's is the one with numbers. would get them for you, but on phone.

On March 29 2016 01:45 Koshi wrote:

Pretty sure I have never claimed medic save.
I am also not 3rd party. But I guess that is where your mind goes when you know I am not mafia and I am not playing my town meta :D

On March 29 2016 06:44 Damdred wrote:


Nope I think rs is town the breadcrumbs can at least make her confirm her role tonight. Got to,be morr

On March 24 2016 12:27 rsoultin wrote:
badumdum!

ise the bedrock on which you're built, the cog in the machine, the...awful rsoul who has only skimmed lol ><

On March 29 2016 07:16 Vivax wrote:


Yes thats why you dont claim it right now but during the day where you cant be shot for your role.
wtf man?

On March 27 2016 09:18 LightningStrike wrote:

Rels potentially, VA, Vivax +1.
Rels usually have a stronger presence as town but activity is nay.
VA not really having his usual sharpness(this is a meta read that I borrowing from kushm4sta) and all he did was pretty much complained and didn't do anything outside of that.
Vivax fallen off real hard since his big spur of actvity and he is known for lurking as scum.

On March 29 2016 07:51 justanothertownie wrote:

You weren't by chance talking about THIS GUY:

who suddenly townread you for no fucking reason after no kills happened?

Were you actually setting him up to fakeclaim?

On March 27 2016 11:15 rsoultin wrote:
Ye. I get an item at night and then I can choose to try to make it work at any phase. Then it has a 50% chance of working, so if I were to try to make it work this phase I'd know what it did during the night phase

On March 29 2016 07:54 Shapelog wrote:

idk about that, i feel like there is more too that than that. Though them fucking off is also strange.

idk Koshi got pretty lazy last game and he was blue.

On March 27 2016 21:09 sandroba wrote:
yo kurumi what's the name of your role and what does it do?

On March 27 2016 23:33 Koshi wrote:
Superbia is actually mafia.
1) 10 pages of filter. It is all 1 liners and utter crap.
2) First read post was actually him claiming mafia.
3) Came into the thread before EoD1 complaining about lurkers, yet didn't try to change the wagons or gave reasoning why lurkers were a problem.
4) Whines about the game being "lost", while mafia didn't even shoot presumably, this doesn't make sense. And I am pretty sure no townie here thinks like that. I for sure don't. It is mafia depression.
5) Has no fucking reads or list in his head. Has been saying I am town, but types "sad town doc protects Koshi". Why? I am now suddenly mafia for some shitty meta reason he has been reading in the thread and just copies after being called out.
6) Bluefishing with the double stack comment from damdred. Probably bluefishing when he said I shouldn't be protected.

I could probably continue. 0 impact player. 10 pages filter. Kill it.

##unvote
##vote superbia

On March 28 2016 18:12 ritoky wrote:


it's also given the context in my mind of him HARD defending LS over the capslock read in the previous game (cell) then post game and in the QT swearing to be substantially more critical of him in all games going forward....i expected a strong opinion/decent amount of focus on solving LS from a town rels and i didn't get it from his filter.

On March 28 2016 21:40 Superbia wrote:
I agree with JAT.

There are a number of specific reasons why I think Koshi is scum, and it mostly has to do with his reactions to certain things in the game. But it mostly boils down to: he's playing way differently than his VT game I remember.

I think the most glaring is this:
Town gets shot during d1 -> Koshi "flips out" and gets townreads from it.
PR gets lynched d1 -> Koshi doesn't care.
PR gets shot n1 -> Koshi doesn't care.
Koshi is seemingly the target of KP -> Koshi doesn't care AND doesn't think he should've been a medic save.

Town koshi would've been typing with caps lock enabled during point 2-4.

Also his scum list is absolutely garbage.

On March 28 2016 21:52 Superbia wrote:
Rels is indeed fucking nowhere this game. Maybe tired of rolling scum?

I don't even recall VA except he sheeped something on rso who's more likely town now.

On March 29 2016 08:57 sandroba wrote:
also did rsoul just fuck off and never told us about itemz?

On March 28 2016 23:20 VayneAuthority wrote:
alright I caught up on the thread im back. Really no reason to post a big post about 800+ posts so I will answer questions if there are any.

Specific things that triggered me -

1. voting yesterday. Was pretty dead tbh so trying to decide if that was possibly a town on town lynch or if it was just the holiday weekend.

2. I was thinking rels could be scum at some point then i started reading a bunch of posts of people i want nothing to do with thinking rels is scum which is weird. Potential separating maneuver? I do think Rels is a decent lynch still honestly his reads and paradigm of posting so far are meh.

3. Pretty sure Koshi is doing his play as bad as possible thing to stay alive. I would just assume whatever he says he means the opposite, would explain a lot of his posts/reads. No real point to respond to anything he says until its like day four.

4.This LS/rsoultin/etc circlejerk is still making me gag, please make it go away. Probably read like 20-25 posts reading through of them just sucking eachother off and saying that the other is town for zero reason and they dont want to lynch eachother. Exactly what the policy part of my vote was about.

my mafia atm - Rsoultin, Rels, Tictock, Alakaslam, ????

On March 29 2016 00:27 Damdred wrote:
I built a case on Rels but before I submitted it I exit'd out and not sure if I believe it myself heres what I have and the thread can spit ball with me and see if I have anything worthwhile.

1) Rels is super different than normal, hes not involved in a lot of whats going on in the game. His activity is way down, his questioning and pressing people is a lot less than normal and hes not scum hunting almost at all.
2) His tone is way off, look at his eod post for d1. He was wrong he just says fuck and then fucks off it feels super contrived and fake to me. Usually rels when something like that is in the thread pressing people and coming up with reasonings and actually trying to proactivly help town but hes not doing that so much. Look at his post yesterday, he seems so upset that we lost a lynch bait player to him assuming a vig shot but shouldn't he be happy that we blocked both scum kp and almost gained a ml from it?
3) His questioning Ritoky really didn't lead anywhere, it seemed like it was his strongest read in the whole game the wagons were still super early when he came back he didn't press ritoky any more or even push his lynch. He decided to settle on what I consider for him to be a weaker read in tubesock he paints ritoky as his top scum read for most of his filter and focuses on him but quickly forgets it and goes with a easier wagon if you would.
4) His townreads on tumble is strange, and his townread on kurm is strange at the point as well. He barely has any active scum reads and doesn't seem to be hunting at all this game.

Its really strange and I think hes scum but maybe i'm making more out of it. Any ideas or things i'm wrong on is appreciated.

On March 29 2016 09:08 Koshi wrote:
Maybe mafia actually read sandroba blue and just roleblocked him.


SUPER boring answer. But maybe most likely.


VA did you save me?

On March 29 2016 09:16 Koshi wrote:

no. Please stop bluehunting.

On March 29 2016 09:08 Koshi wrote:
Maybe mafia actually read sandroba blue and just roleblocked him.


SUPER boring answer. But maybe most likely.


VA did you save me?

On March 29 2016 09:31 justanothertownie wrote:

He was a doc and said this before Kurumi claimed his shot:

Koshi - town - Easiest read in the game, I have posts noted for him but why bother...

At a time where noone in the game really townread koshi and the thread sentiment was to lynch him.

They were probably going for a play here.
If Koshi is mafia he saved him and was going to sell it as a townsave.
If Koshi is town he made the plan with Kurumi who claimed to have shot Koshi only 26 minutes later.

On March 29 2016 01:36 Damdred wrote:


Totally didn't mention him again at any point besides that, 0 follow up past that. I forgot then his vote thats on me I thought it was much earlier than it was. And his only scum read since eod is Damdred

4) We knew why he had to kill stutters, becasue he was a total coinflip and needed to be removed from the game. Rels townreads... not so much especially when one is lynchable now.

On March 29 2016 03:22 Damdred wrote:
Scott Please claim what role you are right now

On March 29 2016 03:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I think we should lynch Ticktock for perpetually staying behind and doing whatever instead of being obnoxious and difficult like he usually is.

On March 29 2016 03:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
going to vote for tumblewood now I think he is the highest chance to flip mafia. If nothing happens im going back to policying rsoultin for circlejerk and added benefit of info.

On March 29 2016 09:49 Koshi wrote:

Hmm maybe. I think he has a shot of being mafia. He backtracked on voting for TT twice in the heat of battle. Asked permission from JAT once and then made a post he wouldn't vote TT.

When the momentum was really swining into TT getting lynched he voted with capslock.


Maybe not though. I will have to reread obi.

On March 29 2016 05:18 VayneAuthority wrote:
I dont have any experience with kurumi so I have zero idea what it means for his alignment. Probably too dumb for scum though, I would never hit enter on that post as mafia in a billion years

On March 29 2016 09:58 Koshi wrote:

100% town. Look at how he reacts to TT coming out of lurk.
That would be dank if he did that to a scumbuddy.

On March 29 2016 09:57 Koshi wrote:

Can somebody else pls politely tell JAT he is going a bit craycray with this docsave crumb by tt?

On March 29 2016 10:00 justanothertownie wrote:

You? Weren't you the one saying "this is so cool" ?

On March 29 2016 10:03 justanothertownie wrote:

Then what was so cool about that post? That's literally the only content it had.

On March 29 2016 10:01 VayneAuthority wrote:
Its true I am a suspect after that lynch, it did not go well for me. I'll see what I can do. The tictock lynch changed my perspective on the game

On March 29 2016 09:47 Rels wrote:

Why did you think tubmlewood was the highest chance to flip mafia ?

On March 29 2016 06:43 Rels wrote:

What does this post means then ?

On March 29 2016 10:09 VayneAuthority wrote:


No meaningful interactions with my other scumreads, his post where he says ritoky "is digging himself a hole" like he know ritoky is town and fucking himself over or something, the post where he said he needs to justify why he is going afk is scummy to me, Asking a lot of meaningless questions, he also made one of those stupid readlists with the half scum/half town names and shit just like tictock did. Middle of the line filter length, generally forgettable but smart enough posts to stay undetected.

On March 29 2016 10:13 sicklucker wrote:


so damdred leads a mafia and this garbage post anyone can make is what helps you townread dandred

#facepalm

On March 29 2016 10:19 justanothertownie wrote:

Whyyyyyyyyyyyy

You will have to tell at daytime though.

On March 29 2016 21:50 Koshi wrote:

Are you still bothering the confirmed town?

On March 29 2016 21:53 Koshi wrote:

Can't you tell me who out of sicklucker, ritoky and superbia isn't mafia.

On March 29 2016 21:59 Damdred wrote:
Your reads were really bare bones that seemed like they came from nothing.

On March 29 2016 22:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
yes thats correct, its unlikely tumble is mafia aka why I look bad atm.

the most important question is JAT is bad this game or was he purposely misconstruing koshi's meta and other bad posts because mafia?

On March 29 2016 23:06 VayneAuthority wrote:


it's really his only option, after that flip koshi as mafia makes zero sense especially considering his posting after deadline.

Multiple people tried to get him to explain how this was anywhere near his mafia meta but he couldn't. So it's just was he super butthurt or genuinely trying to shit up the thread arguing with koshi.

On March 29 2016 08:16 Rels wrote:

This is soooo townie. Comparing Kuru's role name with his own. Solving the game.
He was already 99% town for shooting someone scum would never shoot and this seals the deal.

On March 29 2016 23:32 Vivax wrote:


I call bull. It's a super easy post to make as mafia, why are you so gullible?

On March 29 2016 23:35 Superbia wrote:
The fact that you are either ignoring or not understanding my play is absolutely baffling.

It doesn't matter. You will be confirmed mafia tomorrow or I will fight you to the grave.

On March 29 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:


Yes.

On March 29 2016 23:37 Superbia wrote:
You were even in that game, the one I keep recalling. It was rayn's game which ended during d2.

On March 29 2016 23:39 Superbia wrote:


Because of the timing and the fact that's he's locked in to me being scum. I cannot ignore him for the rest of the game and he's going to continue this shit for the rest of the game regardless of his alignment. He needs to die.

On March 29 2016 23:40 Superbia wrote:


No. It was the only game I think rayn ever hosted. I forgot the name. You were third party and the game ended d2 because rayn forgot to add something to the op and we got a random flip from host.

On March 29 2016 23:45 Superbia wrote:


It is extreme OMGUS paired with an earlier mafia read. But mostly massive OMGUS this point.

On March 29 2016 23:49 Superbia wrote:


Someone. Probably tumblewood.

On March 29 2016 23:51 Superbia wrote:


Because I can't be wrong on everyone.

On March 29 2016 23:56 Vivax wrote:


And btw these are guys who were rather silent while the shenannies started building up. I was actively looking for people not really commenting on me and Damdred trying to move people to TT. Rels voted at some point but I think afterwards.

On March 29 2016 23:58 Superbia wrote:


It's somewhere. Something gut with some logic attached.

On March 30 2016 00:05 Superbia wrote:


- Passive bystander on gumshoe train.
- Posted some things d1 but nothing worth remembering (a trend throughout the game, doesn't seem to want anything to happen).
- Scum-claim ~30m pre-game. Then doesn't show up at start of day. When he does show up he is instantly serious.

On March 24 2016 12:29 Tumblewood wrote:
Seeing four people on the gumshoe wagon this early, I'm getting more lynchbait-y vibes from gumshoe. His entrance to the thread was super awkward, and it seems that that is a large basis for all of the votes except Vivax's. If he flips town, one of Superb, SL, Kurumi, and Vivax is scum.

On March 30 2016 00:10 Superbia wrote:


"superbia pls gif reason from top of your head"
->
"WOW REASON 4c IS SHIT BECAUSE OF THIS EXACT QUOTE"

In my mind he was not actively participating in the argument with, and surrounding gumshoe. He did not seem to want to head in any direction. Hence I have him mentally noted down as passive bystander.

On March 24 2016 23:36 Superbia wrote:
Forgot about tumblewood guy so let's give him a scum-lean as well.

On March 25 2016 22:26 Superbia wrote:


Something like this? :p

Like what is your mindset before you start the game? Especially if you post a pre-game mafia claim? It's the mindset of fucking around, right? But tumblewood just vanishes and then starts off straight up serious.

On March 29 2016 06:20 Superbia wrote:


I think rels is likely never VT. But I'm not entirely sure, usually his mafia game is pretty strong.

The fact that the tumblewood wagon formed so quickly despite the fact that multiple people soft defended him d1 makes me meh. I'd rather lynch koshi and see where his flip leads us.

On March 29 2016 06:39 Superbia wrote:


Who is mafia on your wagon?

Also vote Koshi.

On March 30 2016 02:01 Koshi wrote:

potential interesting post.

Can somebody give his opinion?

On March 30 2016 02:16 Damdred wrote:
I think Rels that you get upset about things said about you way to easily and make more out of it than what it is, I posted things that bothered me and wanted the thread to spit ball with me if i had anything.

for example I said this





I wasn't even convinced myself I think, the more interesting thing I thought you would see was how Vivax was the only person who actually wanted to talk to me about it and brought things up. While two people were like I 100% agree with everything and its good.

What do you think about that?

On March 29 2016 00:27 Damdred wrote:
4) His townreads on tumble is strange, and his townread on kurm is strange at the point as well.

On March 30 2016 02:27 Rels wrote:

It doesn't matter that you were sure or not, you clearly said:

So did you find these townreads weird because there were not justified, or because you thought the reasons were bad ?

On March 30 2016 02:28 Rels wrote:
About your question, ritoky's read on me is clearly bad. Me not commiting to a read on LS D1 is not a reason to scumread me. Who was the other guy 100% agreeing ?

On March 30 2016 05:43 rsoultin wrote:


yo, rels, damdy's not scum please stop