TL Mafia LXXIV: Storm Mafia 3

On March 22 2016 01:05 Palmar wrote:

humbly yours, Koshi.

On March 24 2016 19:38 ritoky wrote:
why would i shoot 1 of my 4 town reads? no i was more pumped about the fact that i correctly guessed that VTs would have been distributed the same name in a closed setup and that my plan while maybe not well executed or received was well devised.

On March 25 2016 00:51 justanothertownie wrote:

Actually, can you explain why Tumblewood is in your townlist? And why LS is this far down?

On March 25 2016 01:30 Tubesock wrote:
Koshi, Why do you think Rsoultin is town? And Tumble for that matter?

On March 25 2016 02:29 LightningStrike wrote:

Ugh he was town in Star Wars. That was your last scum game you silly goof ball

On March 25 2016 02:57 Damdred wrote:
Not sure what you have disproven, the only game ice been wrong on ls was the game we were scum and was powering him through his cell.

Ritoky i am still 100% after d1, every time he's scum I'm on his ass made one bad call about him though which is why i said he's probably town.

I tunnel scum generally and don't tunnel at all most of the time. Do your little stabs have no real value here.

On March 25 2016 07:50 Superbia wrote:
Does anyone still believe Ritoky is mafia?

On March 25 2016 08:31 Superbia wrote:


Naw. What about tumblewood or rso?

On March 25 2016 08:37 Superbia wrote:
I actually feel super good about my circles right now. Just don't have a straight up mafia I want to push. Like Tumblewood/Damdred would be okay-ish but I'd rather keep my vote on rso and see where that brings us?

Thoughts anyone?

On March 26 2016 00:17 rsoultin wrote:


if you're not third party you're extremely underwhelming, even for you on a d1 @.@

are you townreading shape?

also @ koshi...let me try to explain this in a way that makes sense, but tumble's town list is weird for scum in the sense that it doesn't really follow thread...shit...i forgot the word i hate this >< atmosphere? opinion? something like that, and it also doesn't just single out the really active players

like i don't really agree with a good portion of it, but it's still making me hesitate to lynch him

On March 25 2016 06:57 Rels wrote:

WOW
This is the kind of stuff that ONLY TOWNIES THINK ABOUT
Never lynching

On March 25 2016 07:04 Rels wrote:

That is one of my problem with the plan.
The other problem is that I felt reading your posts that you were trying more to (1) confirm yourself as town and (2) make sure it's obvious it's a plan rather than trying to quietly find VTs to confirm them when you reveal the plan.
Gonna reread to see if that holds up or not.

On March 26 2016 02:01 Vivax wrote:
We can probably lynch TickTock without any remorse if he doesn't show up.

On March 26 2016 00:11 Tubesock wrote:
Concerning Ritoky. I may have fell for the ole caps lock trick. I felt he was sincere, but I do know he's a good liar and not at all above doing something like this as mafia. Hmm.

I agree with too much of Tumble's stuff (aside from Rels/Kurumi reads) so I can't vote him.

I don't neccessarily think Rels is mafia just that he's null to me. Same with SL and LS and to some extent Rso. Mostly I don't bother trying to read them till later in the game (SL, LS, Rso).

Anyway, Going to work, voting Kurumi.

On March 26 2016 07:13 justanothertownie wrote:

Your play this game sucks ass. If you are town that is.

On March 26 2016 08:39 justanothertownie wrote:
And in case rsoultin is mafia the likelyhood that you are too is pretty high. The defense of rsoultin here was quite similar to how you defended palmar in star wars.

On March 27 2016 00:19 Alakaslam wrote:

Doesn't look it to me but I haven't seen much.
What makes you think so? My phone will keep this page so I'll see your reply when I am back

On March 27 2016 01:50 sicklucker wrote:
damdred/rels/koshi/rstoul 2-3 scum guaranteed

On March 26 2016 06:43 Superbia wrote:


I don't even read tube in any particular way (i.e. I don't really have a read on him at all). Also wagon was formed rather quickly and I do not recall anyone feeling particularly strong about him at all during the course of the day. So feels like pile-on votes. But whatever. 20m in a 21 player game is not enough time to do anything. He will probably flip town and rso will probably have to be shot or checked during the night.

On March 26 2016 06:56 sicklucker wrote:
acualy i just looked at whos voting rstoulin and that could be a pure town wagon . fuck this is a better lynch I think

On March 26 2016 14:54 Tumblewood wrote:
"Wake up, town" reads list
VayneAuthority - idk how anyone is TRing him. He was here for a little bit and now he'll miss all of this phase. That's NAI at best.
Kurumi - He's almost comically angry. I'm kinda just sheeping Rels on this and
Damdred - His reads are really shallow, like "LS obv town" and nothing else. His D1 scumlist also sucked-- 2 plynches, tubesock, and kurumi (the only one who even kinda goes against what people think) [and me but with a disclaimer]. ALSO one time he said there's one scum between me and Tube because of some nonexistent exchange between us. k i'm done now i swear
sandroba - Making the same reads as everyone else (when present), but for much worse reasons
ObiWanShinobi - he hasn't been present much, but I like the quality of his reads
Koshi - people are like "oh angry koshi = town koshi" but his displays of emotion so far have been utterly fakeable
Rels - he's been insightful this game and actually has original, non-obvious reads which are hard to fake when you're not looking for something
justanothertownie - I don't want to read his filter so I'm just going to say he's being aggressive and leave it at that.
ritoky - Either obv town or obv scum and I can't tell which is which
sicklucker - Doesn't he on D1 act scummy even as town? If not everyone in Devil Inside Mafia lied to me.
Alakaslam - he's a vig
Shapelog - He blends in far more than he usually does. Usually when he blends in it's because I'm ignoring all his posts, but this time it's because I don't notice it's him. Even though he has a 7-page filter, it seems he's not putting very much effort into the game.
Vivax - he's doing a pretty alright job, y'know?
rsoultin - I was really on the fence about this earlier but with Tubesock turning up town I think rsoul is also town.
LightningStrike - One time I played with someone who was obvious town in his first game. LS is playing the same way, except it's not his first game. This makes him ???
Superbia - He's attacking the game in unorthodox ways, which I think is townie, if that makes sense.

On March 27 2016 04:20 Damdred wrote:
I think there are three options really to how the wagons happened.

1) town vs town mafia just did whatever and are spread out and aren't very active.

2) town vs mafia. Rs is only real active mafia the others are in the dnv list.

3) town v mafia all other mafia but rs are on tube saving her.

There's lots of different scenarios but just how the thread feels it feels more like one where mafia isn't trying to disrupt the thread and cause as much chaos over a mislynch.

I could be dead wrong and probably are but it's just a feeling atm.

Ows what do you think who are scum?

On March 27 2016 08:07 LightningStrike wrote:

Why would mafia!sandroba shoot stutters?

On March 27 2016 08:10 sicklucker wrote:


rofl ok koshi. im sure im lying about claiming here when mafia kp was reduced by two yesterday.

My theory is we have a doctor that saved someone (probably jat) and I was also targeted. which pretty much makes you scum

On March 27 2016 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:

Sandroba claimed the shot on stutters and sicklucker claimed he was shot.

On March 27 2016 20:26 Kurumi wrote:
I shot Koshi and he is still alive, any takers? Sorry I have not posted since the last post, I had to get it posted and then rush to another place, since family time!

On March 27 2016 23:06 Superbia wrote:
Koshi why the fuck are you voting rso?

On March 27 2016 23:17 Vivax wrote:
I think ritoky is town cause of his rover plays.

I think rso is town cause engie claim.

I think slam and sandro are mafia cause they claimed a shot and not a nonshot.

I think SL is town cause why would you ever claim that as mafia.

##Shittyreadsgenerator 2016
##Whydoievenplaythisgame

On March 27 2016 23:07 Superbia wrote:
If a town protective role actually protected koshi I'm going to be very annoyed.

On March 28 2016 08:56 justanothertownie wrote:

Explain Vivax and rsoultin.

On March 28 2016 15:00 sicklucker wrote:
but if koshis like a third party that cant be killed by kp only lynched or needs to be hit with more then one kp to die. He would claim medic save because thats his only option.

So thats one way to explain the second medic theory

On March 28 2016 18:20 rsoultin wrote:


^ his next post

like seriously, what sorta town vig shoots, is actually around two minutes before flip, and decides to fuck off?

On March 28 2016 21:40 Superbia wrote:
I agree with JAT.

There are a number of specific reasons why I think Koshi is scum, and it mostly has to do with his reactions to certain things in the game. But it mostly boils down to: he's playing way differently than his VT game I remember.

I think the most glaring is this:
Town gets shot during d1 -> Koshi "flips out" and gets townreads from it.
PR gets lynched d1 -> Koshi doesn't care.
PR gets shot n1 -> Koshi doesn't care.
Koshi is seemingly the target of KP -> Koshi doesn't care AND doesn't think he should've been a medic save.

Town koshi would've been typing with caps lock enabled during point 2-4.

Also his scum list is absolutely garbage.

On March 29 2016 01:58 rsoultin wrote:
here but not...working lunch into oral portion of exit exam, but i'll be back well before the lynch

-squints at koshi- are you agreeing or disagreeing by making my point for me? lol ><

On March 29 2016 02:12 rsoultin wrote:


ye, well, my belief that sl actually would ever be shot by mafia is about

| | this wide ^^

i find it more strange that he didn't comment when the shot didn't go through and sandy claimed almost immediately -_- like if all the claims are why he claims later it just doesn't add up for me

On March 29 2016 02:28 justanothertownie wrote:
I mean let's assume SL is mafia with a vest and Kurumi is town (your world). Where did all the KP go then?

On March 29 2016 03:30 justanothertownie wrote:

I don't care at all about superbia right now. He could be anything. This is about Vivax. What Vivax is saying is simply untrue and his reaction was way overboard.

On March 29 2016 03:43 Vivax wrote:


Hold on a moment.

How can you ever believe superbia is mafia and rsoultin is town when he shows up to redirect the lynch from a town rsoultin to a town Koshi, in the meantime also trying to push a mislynch on confirmed town vivax?

I think you can only believe hes mafia if rsoultin is mafia in which case you should be pushing for rsoultin pretty hard now.

On March 29 2016 03:55 justanothertownie wrote:

You answered your own question. If you play town like this you are borderline playing against your wincon and I really don't give a shit if I mislynch someone doing that.

On March 29 2016 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:

He isn't involved at all. And yes, there are mafia games where he survives a few days without straight afking. Go look for them yourself.

On March 29 2016 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:

You haven't even TRIED to get a guy you list under CONFIRMED FUCKING MAFIA lynched. If someone is extremely bad at this game then it is you. Unless you are just mafia.

On March 29 2016 05:53 Vivax wrote:
Koshi if I spare you will you revert to your normal town self or are there circumstances that make it impossible, like you being mafia or rl issues?

On March 29 2016 06:05 Superbia wrote:


What happened to the "idc I'm going to play diablo" thing?

On March 29 2016 06:07 Superbia wrote:


I feel the same way tbh. Like I can't ever think you're mafia in this game because if you are I have no fucking idea who the town are or what they're doing.

On March 29 2016 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
I just got home and I see Tina,Koshi ,and Tumble are up for lynch. Ugh I don't Tina to be lynched that for sure. Idk about Koshi and Tumble lynches. This is hard to think who would be scum ebtween tumble and koshi....

On March 29 2016 06:20 Superbia wrote:


I think rels is likely never VT. But I'm not entirely sure, usually his mafia game is pretty strong.

The fact that the tumblewood wagon formed so quickly despite the fact that multiple people soft defended him d1 makes me meh. I'd rather lynch koshi and see where his flip leads us.

On March 29 2016 06:25 Superbia wrote:


The fact that TW is likely getting lynched over you without you having to do jackshit probably says enough.

On March 29 2016 06:28 Kurumi wrote:
The fact the guy I shot, losing my bullet, is slowly not getting lynched starts to question my ability to understand human behaviour.

On March 29 2016 06:30 sicklucker wrote:
I have no idea how tumbewood plays but this is acualy looking like a mislynch to me fuck. Like I have no reason to defend him but I dont like how hes getting lynched over koshi/rsou/rels/ls makes no sense to me

On March 29 2016 06:31 sicklucker wrote:
Like im telling you mafias probably voting together this game. The same people who saved rstoul last game are saving her and kosh again

On March 29 2016 06:34 Rels wrote:
Koshi why is TUmble scum ?

On March 29 2016 06:41 Rels wrote:
Koshi you claimed vet right ?

On March 29 2016 06:57 Tumblewood wrote:

Scum team = rsoul, va, tt, one of super and ls
Town circle = reps, jat, vivax, everyone on rsoul, and maybe sand, koshi, and you

On March 29 2016 07:35 Vivax wrote:


You gonna roll over and die or what?

On March 29 2016 07:43 Rels wrote:
Koshi even if you're town can you shut up until tomorrow ? So we know if you're 99% scum or not.

On March 29 2016 07:51 justanothertownie wrote:

You weren't by chance talking about THIS GUY:

who suddenly townread you for no fucking reason after no kills happened?

Were you actually setting him up to fakeclaim?

On March 29 2016 08:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Even though I think someone else saving you is pretty much impossible now?!

On March 29 2016 08:01 justanothertownie wrote:
So in my mind it is basically confirmed that there is mafia between Kurumi and Koshi. Feel free to tell me if you think that's somehow wrong.

On March 29 2016 06:56 Superbia wrote:


??? I made a mistake. He's not lurking. Why are you taking my word for law?

On March 29 2016 06:56 sicklucker wrote:
your all retarded acualy

On March 29 2016 06:50 justanothertownie wrote:

Seems like a total crapshoot to me.

On March 29 2016 06:50 Vivax wrote:
If you don't talk about TT right now and if he flips scum at some point in the game I'm so going to fry your ass for it

On March 29 2016 06:51 Vivax wrote:
JAT is completely avoiding TT cause he wants to lynch Koshi so badly.
Superbia is avoiding TT.
Rels is avoiding TT.
Kurumi is avoiding TT.

...I think.

On March 29 2016 06:56 sicklucker wrote:
your all retarded acualy

On March 29 2016 06:57 Shapelog wrote:
Wow,
i think this is the first time as town, other than nut where i tracked TT to a death, that i actually really feel certain someone will flip red. More so even then Rsoul this game.

Also sorry, that Ahahaha was uncalled for.

On March 29 2016 08:40 sicklucker wrote:


ah no I was definitely there and asking people to stop being idiots and stay on you

On March 29 2016 06:57 Tumblewood wrote:

Scum team = rsoul, va, tt, one of super and ls
Town circle = reps, jat, vivax, everyone on rsoul, and maybe sand, koshi, and you

On March 29 2016 06:59 sicklucker wrote:
hes town for sure

On March 29 2016 08:44 sicklucker wrote:
koshi its probably going to be you vs Kurumi right you realize this? can you stop being such an arrogant ass and maybe I can belive you

On March 29 2016 08:45 Koshi wrote:

nha. It probably wont be. The highest chance is that there is actually a town doc that saved me.

On March 29 2016 06:41 Shapelog wrote:

He always is fucking ML bait due to his low post county (6 games played on Tl, roughly 250 posts in total, so about 41 posts per game and he usually is alive at least till D3)
His low post count really just makes it easy. Plus i feel like he is tripping like how i did in devil. Plus his case on me. Why would scum delete a case like that? They would of still posted it and see if it gets traction.

While i admit the pro-mafia move confession is a bit weird, i feel like this is the town tumble i know. Hope to god i didn't get pocketed but w/e.

On March 29 2016 08:47 sandroba wrote:
@koshi if you were mafia with TT would there be 2 mafia teams? hypothetically =P

On March 29 2016 08:53 sandroba wrote:
I think you will get lynched tomorrow regardless, or maybe even shot by kurumi or the other mafia team if it exists, so if you are mafia and know of the presence of another team you could at least tell us.
But yeh prob dumb question.

On March 29 2016 08:55 sandroba wrote:

nah nobody townie saved koshi.
only other explanation is kurumi is mafia or kurumi was roleblocked.

On March 29 2016 06:56 rsoultin wrote:
dude if we're gonna shennanie we have to do it now not last fucking minute -_-

On March 29 2016 06:58 rsoultin wrote:
not switching if it lynches koshi ><

On March 29 2016 07:11 rsoultin wrote:
lol >< damdy king of shenannies

On March 29 2016 07:15 rsoultin wrote:


mhm so much sense lol ><

On March 29 2016 07:29 rsoultin wrote:


eh i can see what you're doing here but it's just conjecture lol ><

On March 29 2016 07:30 rsoultin wrote:


yup, he invents i receive and no i haven't got a response yet -_-

On March 29 2016 07:17 rsoultin wrote:


idk tbh...might be wrong on kuru and koshi but hell if i'm gonna sort that out right this second

On March 29 2016 09:01 sandroba wrote:

worst theory ever.
if you are town why do you even think a cpr doc targeted you n1? why do you apparently agree it's absurd that a town doc would save you n1?

On March 29 2016 09:04 sandroba wrote:
yes, but if you are town I'm not sure why you would think a townie would want to kill you. you are like admiting your play was scummy/suspicious d1.

On March 29 2016 09:09 sicklucker wrote:


why dont you think kuri was just roleblocked?

is that not like 100x more likely its troubled me you never even brought up this idea

On March 29 2016 09:10 sicklucker wrote:


there you go. you mean kura right?

On March 29 2016 09:14 Rels wrote:

1. Scumhunting is the only thing I'm doing this game so this is wrong. I am super inactive though.
2. OK. Don't know what to respond to that. Fuck you and I don't know there are two KPs and that we blocked them.
3. I still to want to lynch ritoky. I didn't forget about him but he wasn't the lynch and tubesock was super scummy.
4. No they are not. Explain why they strange ?

On March 29 2016 09:16 Rels wrote:

So VA was the [name removed] guy ?

On March 29 2016 09:17 Rels wrote:

Why do you say that when you yourself ask him if he saved you ?
If you think another guy saved you, why did you think of VA right there ?

On March 29 2016 09:18 justanothertownie wrote:

It was at a point where noone was townreading you and several people had stated they wanted to lynch you. And look at the words he uses.
Easiest read in the game etc etc.

Sorry but it is obvious. Nobody would state this read as mafia in this situation.

On March 29 2016 09:18 Koshi wrote:

he is good at finding blues as mafia. So I am suggesting he rb'ed superbia.

On March 29 2016 09:22 justanothertownie wrote:

Look, I know you are pretty stupid. But even you must realize that there wasn't anything that warranted a read this strong at that point which by chance came exactly after you supposedly were targeted by KP and just before someone else claims said KP.

If you are town then Kurumi is mafia.

On March 29 2016 09:22 justanothertownie wrote:

Look, I know you are pretty stupid. But even you must realize that there wasn't anything that warranted a read this strong at that point which by chance came exactly after you supposedly were targeted by KP and just before someone else claims said KP.

If you are town then Kurumi is mafia.

On March 29 2016 09:22 Rels wrote:

So you meant Kurumi instad of sandroba there ?

On March 29 2016 09:23 justanothertownie wrote:

Then how the hell did Ticktock know you were shot? Because he clearly did. No matter how much you overrate yourself, that read never happens otherwise.

On March 28 2016 09:25 sandroba wrote:
and yeah vivax is scum. koshi prob is too, his reads are just random chaos.

On March 28 2016 21:58 sandroba wrote:
I'm up for lynching koshi, vivax or rels instead of rsoul. I think I prefer koshi too.

@rsoul supposedly you did get an item today which you can use right? Maybe the effect is ultra pro town and you could pehaps "prove" yourself if the rng is your friend. '
Worth a shot I suppose, it's not like we lack scummy people to lynch.

On March 29 2016 09:27 Rels wrote:
JAT why do you say TT knew Koshi was shot ?

On March 29 2016 09:31 Rels wrote:

Motherfucker can you fucking explain it clearly 'cause all I'm seeing is "TT put Koshi in the 100% town category when a lot of people were scumreading him". If that is all I'm not convinced.

On March 29 2016 09:34 Rels wrote:

This only works with Kurumi, with Koshi he had no way of knowing vig shot Koshi, unless his role indicates him when he save his target maybe.

On March 29 2016 09:36 justanothertownie wrote:

Of course not but in that case he still visited Koshi and for all investigative purposes he was saving him so it is something you could fakeclaim very well when KP are missing.

Judging by Koshis behaviour right now it is more likely that it is kurumi anyways though.