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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 29 2016 13:32 GMT
#2821
Holy pickle in a hairstylist Back hair sweat!
Now that i have your attention, i want to say something. I do not find the claim to heal koshi really legit (I.E i do not understand it. If someone wants to explain it to me they can.), but i have a prob. with calling koshi town yet based off this one post from TT.
On March 29 2016 06:06 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 04:59 Vivax wrote:
Not Voting (5): Kurumi, Rels, Tictock, Shapelog, LightningStrike


When I see this I really start to doubt myself. I should probably just have kept pushing the TickTock lynch, he was clearly around a few hours ago and now he still didn't cast a goddamn vote after even posting his candidates.


Well yea, I want to wait till last min to vote Koshi. It would look weird if I vote my townread this early.

I'd actually preffer to lynch Slam and maybe Kuru, but neither of those are gunna happen. So I'm debating between Tumble and Rsoul.

Right now I'm not sure I see Tumble being scum, but I also gave him a pass way too easily last game so I want to get caught up and filter him before I vote.

I'm also not sure why you are so tunneled on me, you just think I'm trying to mimic your afk style of scum play?

Kus you know, I've seen that work WONDERS for you...

In this post, scum TT says he will most likely vote Koshi, at hammer time. This is bullshit if you actually consider the fact that TT was calling the Koshi wagon shit. Just moments later.
On March 29 2016 06:21 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 05:29 rsoultin wrote:
pues, i still want a kuru lynch

his tube read seemed ridic fake, and the fact that when i pointed that out people jumped down my throat makes me feel he's even more likely scum

not lynching koshi, btw ^^


Humm, this makes me thing Rsoul is town. Making an effort to start a new wagon (and on someone who I also think is scum) when she is in real danger of being lynched here. Much easier for scum!Rsoul to go, "Yea that koshi/tumble fellow sure is off, lets lynch him"

Fuck it, I think her claim is good and now I'm starting to consider her town for other reasons.

Koshi is still a terrible lynch, I'm gunna vote Tumble.

On March 29 2016 05:55 Tictock wrote:
Accidentally posted this in voting thread.
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 05:45 Tictock wrote:
On March 29 2016 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 2 Votecount

Koshi (4): sicklucker, justanothertownie, Superbia, sandroba, Vivax
rsoultin (4): sicklucker, sandroba, Koshi, ritoky, Alakaslam, sicklucker, Vivax, Tumblewood
Tumblewood (4): VayneAuthority, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Koshi
Kurumi (1): rsoultin
sandroba (0): Alakaslam
Tictock (0): Vivax
Superbia (0): Koshi

Not Voting (5): Kurumi, Rels, Tictock, Shapelog, LightningStrike

Day 2 ends in .
Notification: Some countries are affected by the DST. The deadline will remain the same in UTC.



Still catching up, but if these are the lynch options I'm inclined to vote Rsoul.

Koshi is a terrible lynch, but his wagon looks like it's probably pure...

Actually the Tumble wagon could be pure as well, need to read why people are voting him though.


The wagons at that time 4 koshi/4 rsoul/4 tumble. TT casted his vote AFTER Vivax unvoted (and voted tumble.) I voted rsoul and the wagons looked like this (minus the [s]'s).

Tumblewood (6): VayneAuthority, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Koshi, Vivax, Tictock
Koshi (5): sicklucker, justanothertownie, Superbia, sandroba, Vivax, Kurumi, Tumblewood
rsoultin (4): sicklucker, sandroba, Koshi, ritoky, Alakaslam, sicklucker, Vivax. Shapelog

So my problem with Koshi is the fact that Scum TT was all ready to basically bus him last minute if necessary, but when the wagons started to favor Tumble, TT voted tumble. Thus helping koshi to live through the lynching. It also does not make sense for TT to say that the Koshi lynch is garbage, and then the next post say he would vote the koshi wagon last min.

That post from TT just doesn't make sense at all.

I prob. look at SL -> Koshi filters next. See if i find anything wrong with koshi by himself (since i like looking at everything) I remember someone said something about wanting to keep TT alive D1 because if he was town he is a good player and that seems a bit fishy now that he flip. Though i can't remember who said it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22425 Posts
March 29 2016 13:38 GMT
#2822
TBH anything TT said he said knowing that he looked like bad and would be the first of his team to die so what he did was probably just covering his partners and framing people using reverse logic.

I'm also 90 % sure on LS being town just cause of his behaviour at EoD.

Next lynches should be superbia, sandroba or sicklucker . If I don't get protted I probably don't make it through the night.
Last mafia can also be shape or Rels.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 29 2016 13:40 GMT
#2823
Actually i found a post that Jat that kinda explains it enough for me to understand it.

Anyways,

That really is my only complaint so far with Koshi from TT filter. The doc/vig (or doc claim before lynch) thing seems risky for mafia to do. Not out of the question, but i do not find it really concrete. It seems like a questionable play, both ways of the coin.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 13:40 GMT
#2824
What you're saying makes a lot of sense. But I have a very hard time seeing Koshi as scum with all the posts he made since deadline, especially since lots of people, me included, were starting to consider him a kinda auto lynch the day after. It's quantity and it's also his implication to solve the game and its humour.
Like, he kinda rolled over and die in star wars when several players started to consider him a likely scum. It's 100% the opposite here.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 29 2016 13:44 GMT
#2825
On March 29 2016 22:38 Vivax wrote:
TBH anything TT said he said knowing that he looked like bad and would be the first of his team to die so what he did was probably just covering his partners and framing people using reverse logic.

I'm also 90 % sure on LS being town just cause of his behaviour at EoD.

Next lynches should be superbia, sandroba or sicklucker . If I don't get protted I probably don't make it through the night.
Last mafia can also be shape or Rels.

That could actually be the case tbh. Mainly just because the post itself seems super weird. I still find it weird though from a read progression point of view but maybe i am not taking into consideration of something like this.

Eh, i think i am just going to move on from it for now and read filters. Class is about to come up though so idk when i get to post anything about it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 13:45 GMT
#2826
You forgot to mention the magnificent quality.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 13:46 GMT
#2827
On March 29 2016 22:44 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 22:38 Vivax wrote:
TBH anything TT said he said knowing that he looked like bad and would be the first of his team to die so what he did was probably just covering his partners and framing people using reverse logic.

I'm also 90 % sure on LS being town just cause of his behaviour at EoD.

Next lynches should be superbia, sandroba or sicklucker . If I don't get protted I probably don't make it through the night.
Last mafia can also be shape or Rels.

That could actually be the case tbh. Mainly just because the post itself seems super weird. I still find it weird though from a read progression point of view but maybe i am not taking into consideration of something like this.

Eh, i think i am just going to move on from it for now and read filters. Class is about to come up though so idk when i get to post anything about it.

So you are saying that TT saved me over tumble right? So it is EXTREMELY unlikely tumble and TT are mafia together?
I had a good night of sleep.
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 29 2016 13:50 GMT
#2828
I still don't like Rsoul btw, and her talk about her item does not make me feel better. Shes kinda trolly with it.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 13:53 GMT
#2829
Goddamn page 44 where Shape and Kurumi are going after each other after ritoky said 8 VTs would have been awesome is hilarious.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 13:56 GMT
#2830
On March 25 2016 08:05 Superbia wrote:
Yeah. Picture someone pretty damn tired sitting behind a computer going to sleep in the next x0 minutes. That's me. I really don't want to read through posts so I'm going to play from the top of my head (that's what I generally like to do either way).

Now let's revisit the gumshoe thing, all right? I had like this nice timeline but it's whatever.

Do you think there was scum pushing on gumshoe in hindsight? Before slam shot?

On March 25 2016 08:08 Superbia wrote:
All right, now that I have both your attention I want to continue the train of thought.

Everyone kind of agrees that gumshoe's post was somewhat scummy, and that it was an easy scum-push regardless of alignment. So I'm inclined to believe that -a- scum would pile on the push. Agreed?

Superbia talking about something that happened in the past. Completely disconnected with the thread.
I had a good night of sleep.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 29 2016 13:58 GMT
#2831
yes thats correct, its unlikely tumble is mafia aka why I look bad atm.

the most important question is JAT is bad this game or was he purposely misconstruing koshi's meta and other bad posts because mafia?
I come in for the scraps
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 13:58 GMT
#2832
On March 25 2016 08:31 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 07:50 Superbia wrote:
Does anyone still believe Ritoky is mafia?

100% certain mafia.


On March 25 2016 08:31 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2016 08:31 Koshi wrote:
On March 25 2016 07:50 Superbia wrote:
Does anyone still believe Ritoky is mafia?

100% certain mafia.


Naw. What about tumblewood or rso?

Just random questions all the fucking game.

"am I town to you"
"what about this guy"
"what about this event 20 hours ago"
"what if this would have happened"

Holy shit if he is town. That is just insane how disconnected and terrible he is. Doesn't push thread forward. Doesn't push his reads forward. All reads are completely random 1 lines and a %.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:00 GMT
#2833
On March 29 2016 22:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
yes thats correct, its unlikely tumble is mafia aka why I look bad atm.

the most important question is JAT is bad this game or was he purposely misconstruing koshi's meta and other bad posts because mafia?

I can confirm JAT is pretty bad.
I had a good night of sleep.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
March 29 2016 14:01 GMT
#2834
On March 29 2016 22:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
yes thats correct, its unlikely tumble is mafia aka why I look bad atm.

the most important question is JAT is bad this game or was he purposely misconstruing koshi's meta and other bad posts because mafia?

Reading Koshi's filter before EOD2, do you think think JAT pushing him makes sense or not ?
JAT changed his mind after EOD2. Do you see a difference between Koshi's posting before EOD2 and after it ? Do you think JAT changing his mind is logical ?
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 29 2016 14:05 GMT
#2835
On March 29 2016 22:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 22:44 Shapelog wrote:
On March 29 2016 22:38 Vivax wrote:
TBH anything TT said he said knowing that he looked like bad and would be the first of his team to die so what he did was probably just covering his partners and framing people using reverse logic.

I'm also 90 % sure on LS being town just cause of his behaviour at EoD.

Next lynches should be superbia, sandroba or sicklucker . If I don't get protted I probably don't make it through the night.
Last mafia can also be shape or Rels.

That could actually be the case tbh. Mainly just because the post itself seems super weird. I still find it weird though from a read progression point of view but maybe i am not taking into consideration of something like this.

Eh, i think i am just going to move on from it for now and read filters. Class is about to come up though so idk when i get to post anything about it.

So you are saying that TT saved me over tumble right? So it is EXTREMELY unlikely tumble and TT are mafia together?

I think it is weird how he went from Rsoul claim looks legit, -> "koshi wagon bad, tumble is bad, rsoul my vote" -> "will vote koshi last min." -> ""i think rsoul is a bit townie, won't lynch. Koshi wagon bad, Rsoul bad, Tumbe has my vote"

I think that is the order of his lynch progression.

Actually when i look at that, his progression on tumble looks slightly weird as well (Bad, good, lynch) Actually they all look weird. Only one i can maybe understand is the Rsoul one.

I think Tumble is still town though just because of my reasons before. (Tone, being lynchbait wagon, etc.) But I actually not sure if the point i made before is valid now just looking how much TT actaully changed his mind on his vote. That post from him holding off still feels off in my mind though. But it might of been just mafia WIFOM shit.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:06 GMT
#2836
On March 25 2016 16:33 sandroba wrote:
Read up till gumshoe died so far. It looks like slam shot him adn koshi somehow arrives at the conclusion it was ritoky. Kinda weird from koshi, but it seems like an honest mistake, not a fake dumb tell. Ritoky btw looks like is very likely townie, not really because of his vt gambit (which could be done by mafia if they had the roles early), but because of how much he believes his plan was the shit. As town we tend to think our dumb plan is so great imo =P.
Weird that slam didn't make any coments after the shot if it was him (which I'm inclined to believe). If I had to decide right here I'd say slam is scum.

On March 25 2016 16:52 sandroba wrote:
I like rels, he looks a lot like last game where he was townie. I see the point on slam being town for revealing he was about to shoot and not trying to incriminate anyone. The weird think is that he said he was going to think about it and the shot went off and he apparently wasn't here anymore. Gotta wait till I read what slam has to say.
Also leaning town on kurumi a bit. Null on rso. I think rels has the wrong idea on ritoky and rso is spreading doubt a bit. Dunno. I find her hard to read.

How did sandroba went from here to were he is now?
I had a good night of sleep.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 29 2016 14:06 GMT
#2837
On March 29 2016 23:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 22:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
yes thats correct, its unlikely tumble is mafia aka why I look bad atm.

the most important question is JAT is bad this game or was he purposely misconstruing koshi's meta and other bad posts because mafia?

Reading Koshi's filter before EOD2, do you think think JAT pushing him makes sense or not ?
JAT changed his mind after EOD2. Do you see a difference between Koshi's posting before EOD2 and after it ? Do you think JAT changing his mind is logical ?


it's really his only option, after that flip koshi as mafia makes zero sense especially considering his posting after deadline.

Multiple people tried to get him to explain how this was anywhere near his mafia meta but he couldn't. So it's just was he super butthurt or genuinely trying to shit up the thread arguing with koshi.
I come in for the scraps
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
March 29 2016 14:07 GMT
#2838
>_<
i think rsoul is a bit townie, -> "koshi wagon bad, tumble is bad, rsoul my vote" -> "will vote koshi last min." -> ""Rsoul claim looks legit actaully, won't lynch. Koshi wagon bad, Rsoul bad, Tumbe has my vote"
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:07 GMT
#2839
On March 29 2016 23:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2016 22:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
yes thats correct, its unlikely tumble is mafia aka why I look bad atm.

the most important question is JAT is bad this game or was he purposely misconstruing koshi's meta and other bad posts because mafia?

Reading Koshi's filter before EOD2, do you think think JAT pushing him makes sense or not ?
JAT changed his mind after EOD2. Do you see a difference between Koshi's posting before EOD2 and after it ? Do you think JAT changing his mind is logical ?

Nha. JAT could have seen it way faster that I was town. Or hold off. Him insisting to kill me would be good mafia play.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 29 2016 14:07 GMT
#2840
On March 29 2016 23:07 Shapelog wrote:
>_<

What is this emoticon?

rsoultin used it in every post going into the lynch. Even after the lynch.
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