Shin Megami Tensei: The Devil Inside Mafia

On February 16 2016 06:04 Tumblewood wrote:
Scumreading Trfel pretty hard right now tbh

On February 16 2016 15:46 Tumblewood wrote:
This D1 sucks. Nothing very significant has happened except Trfel and Eden arguing and getting nowhere, except for all that nice town cred people are building for themselves.

On February 16 2016 16:16 Tumblewood wrote:

Trfel and Eden are town because mafia are usually afraid to get into a heated argument.
I think everyone besides those two who has been active is making little town cred posts without substance.
Shape was spammy as all hell last game. Is that just normal though? Maybe.
Tictock, what do you think of Trfel and Eden arguing?

On January 27 2016 11:30 Tumblewood wrote:
Read over the thread, and these are my reads so far:

Town: (none yet)
Leaning Town: Alur, Trfel
Null: PepperMintTea, nooniansong, Onegu
Leaning Scum: darthfoley, _MexicanAlien
Scum: Shapelog

My reasoning on Shapelog:

Shapelog has acted generally like a newbie scum player all game. He started the game off with about five jokes and no content. Given that this is day 1, that's not too important. I'm not sure how to feel on the weird read toward nooniansong, because it doesn't necessarily feel scummy or townie, just poorly informed. But the posts that really strike me are:

and

In both of them, he mentions something about not being scum. Why would a townie ever do that? Why would anyone ever do that? "Unless your scum team kills me," and, "Yet to roll mafia sadly," are things normal townies don't just drop. It just screams to me, "Oh boy, what a shame I'm not mafia!" Also, "I am always Sus. on my D1's" doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but I haven't played with Shapelog before.

On January 27 2016 12:13 Tumblewood wrote:


I remember some slight town lean posts and nothing scummy, so that was enough to put him up there in my memory. Looking through his filter, though, there's not much to put him on one side or the other. If I had to redo that list, I'd swap Onegu and Trfel.

On January 28 2016 01:31 Tumblewood wrote:
I had a big long post halfway written, but then I went to sleep and everything has changed. So, again, I'm going to make one big long post.

First, about our three main suspects: Onegu, PepperMintTea and Shapelog

Onegu hasn't really done anything aside from his one big post and his arguments defending that post. Everything else is just Onegu being the Newbie Police. I won't quote that post since it's gigantic, but the read on Trfel is good and the rest doesn't say very much. It's hard to townread him for anything he's done this game, so he's a slight scumread.
PepperMintTea hasn't done anything to give me an opinion of him. It looks to me as if people saw one post with sort of flawed logic and then went entirely off of that.
Shapelog's early play (say, pre page 16) was scummy as hell. You guys are all townreading him for reasons that are mostly "Too scummy to be scum", like Eden's post (cropped)

The bolded section, the main reason for townreading, makes no sense. It's basically, "It doesn't make him look like town, and scum wants to look like town, so he must not be scum." I'd appreciate if you'd explain that point to me.

Next, about the other consistently active players: darthfoley, _MexicanAlien, and Trfel

Onegu, regardless of whether he's scum, made a good point on Trfel. Trfel's been asking so many questions but hasn't said much of anything himself. That reads scum to me, because it allows him to advance mafia's agenda without doing anything himself, if that makes sense.
Anything I say on darthfoley will be a weak point. He hasn't done much of anything this game to give me a strong opinion on him, so I'm going to call this one a null read.
MexicanAlien looks like a complete townread if you ignore his first ten posts. He started the game off with things like, "We need to figure out a strategy" and "We need information", which would be a sure scumread if he weren't a complete newbie or if he continued like that. Those first few posts set off alarm bells in my head, but I think I was wrong on that one, because he's been a normal contributing member of the town since then.

And everyone else

I have nothing to say about Kuramari and Ikidomari because of how little they've posted and how little they've said. Opinions pending.
JesusIncarnate is weird to me because he was away for the first 15 hours of the game then came back and said half good points and half "sick meme". I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, but it's definitely suspicious in my mind if he doesn't do anything more for the next several hours.
Eden and Alur read town for me, because they seem to be the ones with the most desire to hunt scum in the town. Alur went quiet for a while, but my opinion on him hasn't changed yet. Eden is the more town-leaning of the two.
Nooniansoong (kush?) is a sliiiight scum read for me because he's gotten by doing very little so far. There's definitely not enough, though, there to base a lynch off of.

TL;DR
I was gone for a while and now I'm trying to catch up. Shapelog still reads scum to me, Onegu and Trfel also look scum to me, Eden, Alur, MexicanAlien look town. I need to read through this again and see what everyone else did because it's sort of lame having null / very weak reads on 6/12 other players.

On February 18 2016 05:59 disformation wrote:


Palmar (4): nooniansoong, sicklucker, Shapelog, rsoultin, sicklucker, Tictock, Eden1892, Tumblewood
scott31337 (4): sicklucker, Trfel, Breshke, rsoultin, sicklucker
GlowingBear(2): nooniansoong, scott31337, nooniansoong
Breshke(1): Palmar
Tumblewood (1): The Shining, sicklucker
nooniansoong (1): GlowinBear
Trfel (0): Shapelog
Eden1892 (0): Trfel, sicklucker
Sicklucker(0): Tictock, Palmar, GlowingBear, Shapelog
The Shining (0): Eden1892, sicklucker
Shapelog (0): rsoultin, Trfel, nooniansoong, Breshke, Tumblewood

Not Voting (0):

At this time, Palmar is slated to be lynched.
Day 1 ends in on 21:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.

On February 17 2016 11:11 Tumblewood wrote:
@rsoul : I the only people I have any real insight on are Trfel, Eden (town), Tictock, kush (townlean), you, Shapelog (null), Palmar, SL (scum).
The other four have been too absent for my tastes... Breshke has been moderately active, stay tuned for a filter dive.

On February 17 2016 11:15 Tumblewood wrote:
EBWOP: Palmar as a scum lean because I have little confidence in that read.

On February 18 2016 03:42 Tumblewood wrote:
No one's acting definitively scummy, so I'm going to POE this vote.

The 'Do Not Lynch' List
Eden, for putting a lot of effort into finding scum and moving the day along productively.
Trfel, for similar reasons. Also, I stand by that mafia would not have gotten into an argument like that earlier in the game.
Tictock, for making clear and useful points.

The 'Bad Lynch' List
Rsoul, for helping in a trolly manner.
Palmar, for being overconfident and having huge changes of heart.
Kush, but I don't know why.
Breshke, for making clear and insightful points, though sparse.

The 'Wait And See' List
GB, Scott, and The Shining for showing up late.

That leaves us SL and... other SL. I keep seeing things in sick's play that are scummy, but then you all assure me that those are just normal things for him. Sick's defense amounts to "don't lynch me because that's a bad idea / I'm an easy townread."
Shape has been acting similar to his last game as scum. I had the privilege of being in the scum QT with him, and his gameplan was this: play the "too scummy to be scum" card, and spam the thread (especially with votes) to make it harder to follow.
I think both are valid options for a lynch; whoever makes the better case in the next two hours dodges my vote.

On February 18 2016 05:30 Tumblewood wrote:

SL, Shape, gB, shining, Scott, and Palmar are all reasonable lynches; I don't see what makes Scott the better option in Trfel 's mind.

On February 18 2016 05:56 Tumblewood wrote:
I can't sleep easy if I see any of the other wagons getting lynched over Palmar. ##vote: Palmar

On February 17 2016 01:26 nooniansoong wrote:
PALMAR
I don't agree with Trfel's meta of palmar.
Nothing about palmar seems townie to me. His reads are lazy or don't make sense.


SL
Seems to be playing the "tooscummytobescum" card
He wants to kill Eden because he "claimed VT" is wrong for town and easy for scum.

On February 17 2016 01:45 nooniansoong wrote:
Just because your name is boldified in red doesn't mean I think you're scum.

On February 18 2016 04:44 nooniansoong wrote:
@GB I'm sorry. You deserve a real answer from me. I don't like to do this day 1, even if it's only for my own benefit but here goes.
People I am the most suspicious of currently:
2) Shapelog
3)Ticktock
5) Breshke
8) The Shining
9) mdergScott31337
10) Eden1892
12GlowingBear

On February 18 2016 05:00 nooniansoong wrote:
Fine let's switch to GB.
I still think shape should claim, because we won't know if there is 2 or 3 prs depending on how many mafia prs there are.
So if he claims that makes his claim more easily verifiable or falsifiable.

On February 18 2016 04:31 GlowingBear wrote:


I don't think Shapelog is the lynch for today. I've seen him droppig some genuine insights that showed fair amount of effort behind it. He could be Mafia but there are far better lynches today

On February 18 2016 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Kush why were you voting me?

On February 18 2016 04:37 GlowingBear wrote:


Ok, and what are your reada?

On February 18 2016 04:47 GlowingBear wrote:


What's your auspicions on Shapelog?

Kush my problem here is that you looked very noncommittal, and I remember you having very firm reads since you came back to TLMafia. Your like of engagement looks suspicious to me.

On February 18 2016 05:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Shape, there was a spoilered big post that I'm not finding right now, but page 2 of your filter with your read on tumble wood and your thoughts on the Miller stuff shows that you're critically thinking about the game and I rarely see that coming from Mafia. They don't need to think critically because they have perfect information

On February 16 2016 09:55 Shapelog wrote:

TumbleDore has Buggered off.....Weird. I shall be watching his every move to determine if he is scum since I was a mafia buddy with him.

If anyone wants to know general things about him, Let me know. But the less i talk about the better. Since it will tip him off of how to get around me.

On February 16 2016 10:04 Shapelog wrote:


Blue is my fav too. Wood is my second