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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 02:55 GMT
#1706
On February 24 2016 11:52 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2016 11:47 Trfel wrote:
Darn it Tictock, I really want you to be scum, but I'm just not seeing it right now

Maybe my analysis stinks, but bleh. I can see Tictock's play from a town perspective and I don't have any great reasons to think otherwise. Mostly just the association with GlowingBear and a potential argument that he's following instead of leading? Which are valid arguments, but feel like I'm stretching.

Meh, I'll look into Breshke.


Are you just trying to hurt my feelings? Or is this because it would make the game easier?

When have I ever lead a game besides the final day in PYP? + Show Spoiler +
Side note: That was also the only game I got GB's alignment correct
+ Show Spoiler +
2 days after he had died+ Show Spoiler +
... After I found the actual scumteam
At the moment, you being mafia is the only solution I can see.

So yeah, I really have no idea who is mafia... May very well be Breshke, but I thought I had good reason to townread both nooniansoong and rsoultin? Maybe moreso nooniansoong than rsoultin? Either way, for me this is rapidly turning into a "who's less towny" game than a "who is scum" game and that's never ever a winning strategy
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 03:18 GMT
#1708
On February 24 2016 12:08 Breshke wrote:
Does anyone know if we can no lynch?
I don't know, I guess maybe we should ask.

If we are, that would probably be a really good play, since we only have one confirmed town and everyone else is questionable.

I'm just going to go ahead and drop this now. It's not necessary to read, as it's rather long winded, but here's my thoughts atm.

Tumblewood
+ Show Spoiler +
Several of Tumblewood's posts feel very genuine.
On February 16 2016 15:46 Tumblewood wrote:
This D1 sucks. Nothing very significant has happened except Trfel and Eden arguing and getting nowhere, except for all that nice town cred people are building for themselves.
On February 17 2016 09:23 Tumblewood wrote:
Trying to move the game forward, but most people don't even have a page of filter to use. It's hard to town/scum read anyone besides Trfel and Eden.
Really I'm just concerned that scum will win because town lacks information and doesn't seek any.
On February 17 2016 15:12 Tumblewood wrote:
No one's thoughts feel coherent, which means that my thoughts probably aren't coherent, so it's time for me to get some sleep. See you all in 8-9 hours.

However, Tumblewood doesn't go out of his way to provide his own thoughts. It feels weird that Tumblewood is complaining about the thread activity and says he doesn't have reads, and then when asked, says that he "only" has real insight on eight people. This makes sense from town if Tumblewood is generally cautious with his reads and only shares things he is certain of (note that if Tumblewood is town, this is his first game as town).

Basically, if Tumblewood is town, I expect to see a lot of confidence in his reads (at least the ones that he is clear about) going forward. I also expect him to be hesitant to share weaker reads, or at least clear about which reads he's not so sure about.

Tumblewood does say that Palmar could be scum as easily as town in post 310, and has him as a scum lean in post 385. Palmar made one post in between:
On February 17 2016 08:12 Palmar wrote:
It's unfortunate that I don't want to post right now.

I bet that's not very helpful of me.
So I expect Tumblewood's explanation of this read change to be related to this post, or implications because of this post.

It does feel like Tumblewood generated his reads list out of nowhere, he didn't explain them at all. And there's minimal-no followup on sicklucker, his primary scumread. Tumblewood's read reversal on Palmar to "bad lynch" feels somewhat weird, but this does make sense.

Tumblewood's top lynches Day 1 were sicklucker and Shapelog, which makes sense given his progression on both of them. However, his push on Shapelog was potentially opportunistic. Tumblewood left Shapelog as a null in his list post, and then later started comparing Shapelog's play to his scum play. I'm not sure if this is opportunistic or has justification, this would require more energy to check, so I'll wait until later to see if this is necessary.

Tumblewood ends up voting for Palmar because he can't see any other wagon being lynched over Palmar. Which doesn't really make much sense. But it was town vs town. Reserving judgement on this for now.

Tumblewood's written reads end up with Shapelog, sicklucker, and GlowingBear as the scum list. I really don't feel that mafia would be pushing Shapelog here? Shapelog claimed blue, and I'd expect people in the mafia QT to be reasonably sure that Shapelog is blue (they roleblocked him, after all), this paranoia feels more towny. The read on GlowingBear also feels early and genuine; how much does he actually push this on Day 2, though?

Tumblewood later explains his vote on Palmar as an attempt to not be a policy lynch on a low-activity player. Hrm. Still reserving judgement, this is a difficult point for me to think through.

Tumblewood barely played at all on Day 2... ended up being the last vote on GlowingBear. Day 1 ended on the 17th, Day 2 is 18th-20th. All that Tumblewood really did in this day until the 30 minutes before the deadline is him doubting his GlowingBear scumread, and then saying never mind. However, once Tumblewood comes back, he answers GlowingBear's question about who is mafia if he isn't, which feels like a really weird thing for mafia to do here (mafia would want to take bus credit, not honestly talk to their scumbuddy who is about to die).

I find it weird that Breshke and I (Trfel) had similar reactions to the flip (not reading the last ~7 pages of the day), but Tumblewood commented on this as suspicious for Breshke and didn't mention me. I know that Tumblewood was strongly townreading me early on, but it feels weird that he would comment on some suspicious things that I did (voting for scott31337 day 1) and not others (not reading 5 pages).

Tumblewood's vote for scott31337 makes sense, and the way he approaches POE makes sense as well.

Overall, Tumblewood's filter feels really honest and genuine. Like, to a very high degree. Which makes me really want to townread him. However, his progressions on Palmar and Shapelog (Day 1) don't really make sense. And his latest explanation for the Palmar vote is that he woke up late and wasn't here (source), which doesn't seem to be true as judged by his activity around the deadline. I really want to townread Tumblewood, but I'm not quite ready to do so.

@Tumblewood:
Why did you have Palmar as a scum lean in this post?
To me it seems that you were caught up at End of Day 1, am I misunderstanding what you are saying?

Tictock
+ Show Spoiler +
Tictock opened by saying that sicklucker's first few posts felt like he was posting just to post, but didn't really follow up on this. Sicklucker started pushing Eden for setup speculation, but Tictock entirely ignored it.
On February 16 2016 15:34 Tictock wrote:
Actually GB, less drunk posting from you is ok too.
This probably isn't important, but I think it would be funny if this is mafia!Tictock yelling at his drunk scumbuddy to shut up before getting them all caught

Tictock criticizes Tumblewood a few times for complaining about the day being boring, and gives Tumblewood a few suggestions of things to talk about, but doesn't follow up very aggressively. Maybe I'm making something out of nothing.

Going into End of Day 1, Tictock was fairly active and present, and while he's been very relaxed, I don't feel him doing too much. Here are his substantial reads:
Eden town, Trfel town, Shapelog town, Palmar town (sheeping Trfel), some suspicion of Tumblewood for doing nothing, but also says that he doesn't see mafia motivation behind Tumblewood's play, citing an earlier post

Then he makes this post about GlowingBear being town for putting in less effort in his scum games than his town games. Tictock's complete lack of followup on sicklucker is suspicious, I don't see how he goes from "sicklucker's post is the only interesting thing in the thread" to "I don't have any thoughts on sicklucker until I read his filter". If it's interesting, wouldn't he investigate it? And when nooniansoong questions Tictock's read on GlowingBear, Tictock responds by saying that he's bad at reading GlowingBear, instead of talking about the read itself.

Tictock says he's suspicious of Shapelog, then comes back here and completely leaves Shapelog off of his list. This was before Shapelog claimed his role. He didn't discuss his lack of suspicion on Shapelog, either, despite Shapelog being heavily suspected at this time, which would presumably have been a priority. The post also lists Breshke as a town lean, which doesn't seem to match what appears to be a strong town read on Breshke earlier.

Tictock provides a filter analysis of sicklucker explaining why he votes for him. Tictock doesn't see any mafia motivation from scott31337 or nooniansoong, but says he's very unimpressed by GlowingBear's posts, so he could policy lynch him. I'm not sure why he could be willing to policy lynch GlowingBear but not scott31337 here? I'm pretty sure I asked Tictock about this, but my memory is lousy, so I'll see where this comes up again later.

This post feels quite towny from Tictock. It feels like he's actually trying to work out what alignment people are, instead of what alignment he wants them to seem. It also is right after the lynch, where people have nearly 72 hours to forget what you did before potentially lynching you. However, Tictock's switch onto Palmar is a bit suspect, maybe he was trying to make up for this error? Either way, this is towny thought process after an unexplained vote.

In the above post, Tictock says that GlowingBear and The Shining are more likely town for voting off-wagon. Then, here he says that the off wagon votes are more likely mafia. The post also includes a large "tinfoil" section about scott31337 being mafia. This feels towny to me, because the end post seems to be not what he intended, which feels natural and towny. But the conclusions are weird.

At this time, Tictock's been thinking about the game in two perspectives: scott31337 being scum and town.
Initially, he was thinking that scott31337 is town because of the spread votes and crazy EoD. Then, he created this tinfoil theory that started out by if scott31337 is scum, what would that mean? He concluded that Tumblewood, scott31337, and nooniansoong is a sensible scum team and he wanted to start with Tumblewood.

The weird thing here is that it starts completely from an assumption. Not an assumption that he has no input on, but an assumption where he's already claimed the opposite to be true. And instead of starting with the basis of said assumption, he wants to start by lynching someone else. He later clarifies that this tinfoil post is the majority of the basis for his scumread on Tumblewood.

On February 20 2016 16:08 Tictock wrote:
Well...

WTF have you done for town GB?

Like it can't seriously be a surprise to you that people scumread for doing jack all for 2 days, but draw some pictures and fake claim.

Same goes for Tumble. You guys come in and make useless posts >.<
I don't understand how Tictock can say things like this to GlowingBear but still not want to lynch him, and lynch Tumblewood instead, despite being so unsure about scott?

Tictock ends up being the fifth vote on GlowingBear, after focusing so much on Tumblewood being mafia. And it feels like Tictock is more convinced in Tumblewood being mafia than GlowingBear, but votes for GlowingBear anyway.

Then, after GlowingBear flipped mafia, Tictock went back to his read of scott being town due to GlowingBear voting off-wagon. And he says that he's not so sure about Tumblewood any more because his last few posts were a bit better (also presumably because no more association with scott?)

I don't really see Tictock's later Day 3 from a town perspective. He goes from "nooniansoong is mafia! Tumblewood is mafia! Scott31337 feels like town but I guess he might be mafia (???)!" to "I'm probably wrong and scott's going to flip mafia and I'm going to be autolynched tomorrow but I don't care"

Upon closer analysis, Tictock's Day 1 makes more sense than I thought. When he initially said that he was willing to lynch GlowingBear but not scott31337, scott31337 did have more content than GlowingBear, even if barely. And closer to the deadline, he said he was willing to lynch both.


I'm currently feeling like Tumblewood is town, pending his answer to my question. And Tictock feels like town as well; while there are a lot of little things I don't like about his filter, there are also a lot of things that make sense, and the overall picture feels towny.

Any thoughts about Tumblewood and Tictock?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 03:28 GMT
#1709
Well, this is a bit boring. Sorry, probably not getting to Breshke's filter tonight.

I'll be watching a movie, I'll try and check back once every so often unless the movie is good.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 03:41 GMT
#1711
On February 24 2016 12:32 rsoultin wrote:
bueno, i'm here lol >< but just starting to look through things so bear with me

hey truffle what are you doing in those spoilers? cause you're coming to town conclusions but those points seem to be your issues with both filters?
I provided the majority of my comments, regardless of conclusion. Anything I felt was relevant.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 03:57 GMT
#1713
On February 24 2016 12:54 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2016 12:41 Trfel wrote:
On February 24 2016 12:32 rsoultin wrote:
bueno, i'm here lol >< but just starting to look through things so bear with me

hey truffle what are you doing in those spoilers? cause you're coming to town conclusions but those points seem to be your issues with both filters?
I provided the majority of my comments, regardless of conclusion. Anything I felt was relevant.


nh :/ oooookay. so i guess you don't generally find positive things relevant? lol >< nvm it's not that important, i just find it odd to read so much text about x is weird, y is weird, this could maybe be town, weird, weird, weird, conclusion: town

mathematically your post is pretty skewed lol
It's quite possible that my analysis is entirely messed up It felt like something was going wrong.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 04:55 GMT
#1715
At least I'm not the only one who didn't find the mafia yet

The movie was a bit underwhelming If I have time to read Breshke's filter, let's hope that it's a bit better.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 17:43 GMT
#1728
Well, I figured out why my analysis was stupid, I was forgetting to look at motivations and just looking at what people did

Bad Trfel. Means I have to do it again On the bright side, hopefully I can do a proper job this time. Homework first though...

Anyway, Tumblewood, thanks for the response. One more question, you say that my reads are well-reasoned, but earlier you were criticizing my reads (like my Palmar read and my Eden read)? What changed?

Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 18:00 GMT
#1729
And Tictock, if you don't mind, I'd like to go back to this.

So when you went into that tinfoil post, before it you were thinking that scott31337 was town because the Day 1 votes suggested Town vs Town. Then you decided that making this conclusion was bad before you read more carefully, right?

So, I'm assuming that by the end of the tinfoil post, you'd read everything? So, what was your conclusion about scott31337's alignment, and why? And how and why did your previous read on the Day 1 lynch being town vs town change?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 18:45 GMT
#1731
On February 25 2016 03:43 Damdred wrote:
town may no lynch, scum must shoot no happy endings here
<3
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 20:16 GMT
#1733
Hey rsoultin, who is mafia?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 20:28 GMT
#1735
On February 25 2016 05:24 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 05:16 Trfel wrote:
Hey rsoultin, who is mafia?


lol >< fuck if i know

i'm pretty confident you and noon are town (barring some paranoia on the part of noon that is probably just silly)

i actually think tt/bresh

kinda have a hard time seeing either of them with tumble lol >< and tumble's fliter is really pretty direct

like...it's kinda awful cause it's PoE, but honestly i went through breshke's filter again and the reasons i townread him (namely seeing a lot of the same things in things like shape's posts and sl's diary entries) are still there, but i'm not sure if i should have given them the weight i did. disregarding that, he's been extremely peripheral all game :/

as for tt, it's just a lot of swinginess that i can't really follow well and probably a bit of my natural inclination to really distrust anyone i have to ping half-a-dozen times to get an answer out of @.@
I wonder if the fact that we agree means that we're right or that we're wrong?

Or if it means that you're mafia and I'm stupid >< (though the two aren't mutually exclusive)

I still feel like Tictock has been a reactive player and he hasn't been involved. I mean, I feel like he's been interactive but not involved, if that makes sense? And I don't like that at all. It's not related to his cases, but rather I don't feel like he's been pushing things...

But the mafia!Breshke wouldn't save town!Palmar thing makes a lot of sense, though, right? Did Breskhe commit to it before it looked like scott vs Palmar?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 20:33 GMT
#1737
On February 18 2016 05:26 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2016 05:24 Tumblewood wrote:
On February 18 2016 05:18 Trfel wrote:
Oh yeah, scott31337's in the game.

Maybe just lynch him?

This feels scummy to me... Town doesn't just settle for a lynch like that, especially when there are other valid options.


Who are the valid options? I think trefels post is perfectly justified. Right now my lynch list is shining, GB, scott and palmar. I have not mentioned any of these people before and it is mostly based on activity and how this EoD is turning out.
So, giving Breshke too many townpoints for this isn't really good. If he's mafia, he left himself open to most any lynch. If the scott wagon didn't work out, he could have switched his vote to most anywhere.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 20:38 GMT
#1739
And yeah, to be honest I stand by my earlier comment of Breshke not having as insightful comments or following them up as well as I might have expected.

Breshke definitely hasn't been bad, he's been good, just not up to his best level as town. Of course this doesn't make him mafia, but I don't feel it's a good reason to townread him for this alone.

I do feel that nooniansoong's scumread on GlowingBear is strongly town indicative, but not 100%. There are a few tonal things that make me think he is town, off the top of my head one of them is when he was hoping that scott31337 and GlowingBear aren't mafia together (so that the game wouldn't be too easy), but nowhere near as many as I remembered last game. Maybe he could be mafia here, even if it's unlikely, I'll take a look later (especially with a no-lynch to get extra time).

For what it's worth, I think rsoultin is town? But the worth of this read is zero, so yeah. Saving for last.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 20:45 GMT
#1742
Haha, TL Mafia basically never uses three blue setups. The latest one I remember was masons + 1-shot cop. Aka, three really weak blues. And since it's no-lynch allowed, not no-shoot, it's almost certainly two-blue setup.

Rsoultin, weren't you scumreading nooniansoong a few days back? What happened to that? What about Tumblewood, weren't you calling my townread of Tumblewood stupid?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 20:57 GMT
#1746
On February 25 2016 05:49 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2016 05:45 Trfel wrote:
Haha, TL Mafia basically never uses three blue setups. The latest one I remember was masons + 1-shot cop. Aka, three really weak blues. And since it's no-lynch allowed, not no-shoot, it's almost certainly two-blue setup.

Rsoultin, weren't you scumreading nooniansoong a few days back? What happened to that? What about Tumblewood, weren't you calling my townread of Tumblewood stupid?


lol gb flipped? + Show Spoiler +
it was actually how he reacted to my one post >> kinda flippant but still trying to calm me down. not sure how to explain that and it's probably just pure bias, but whatever


i still don't think that your reasons are good enough for the hard townread you've had on tumble all game, but i have to grudgingly admit you're probably right >> just given the game state
The game state? What do you mean?

Anyway, here's one example of the kind of thing that makes me think that Tictock is scum.

Tinfoil post saying he wants to lynch Tumblewood, @4:36 EST
[lots of commenting]
[more commenting]
[some reads but nothing pointed]
Voting for who he thought was scum last night (Tumblewood), @22:02 EST

So, a bit over 17 hours later, after a ton of commenting on things, he votes for the same person as he thought before, for the exact same reasons?

Things to check:
1. How much did Tictock push Tumblewood relative to the wagon on GlowingBear? Did he throw out a read and not talk about it much while the GlowingBear wagon wasn't there, or was this after the GlowingBear wagon was already going? If the former, it's suspicious how his activity with regards to this push increased later.
2. Why didn't Tumblewood push any of the other lynches as much as he did the Tumblewood wagon? He seemed to be making a fuss over this, which I definitely don't remember him making Day 1 (would have thought he'd want to lynch sicklucker) or Day 3 (not lynching scott, lynching Tumble isntead). It's a bit hard for me to tell if he actually was trying to defend scott or not, but maybe comparing his push on Tumble D2 and the defense of scott D3 shows something.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 21:11 GMT
#1753
So, I realized that no-lynching might not be the best idea, because I screwed up my planning and might not actually be able to really play the last day as it is

If anyone would like to no-lynch, maybe that could work, and I can try my best to avoid a modkill for inactivity, but if both rsoultin and I are better with lynching, I'd kinda prefer that.

GG The Shining.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 21:19 GMT
#1756
On February 25 2016 06:16 rsoultin wrote:
well, i thought we might get an interesting flip just cause shining's been so absent, but :/

anyway, i'm gonna finish up the schoolwork i need to have done for tomorrow

today could actually be quite fun if we lynch ^^ -bounces-
I was really hoping that I'd die because I can't play

And I was really hoping that The Shining would stay alive because he's pretty awesome Lategame is not my best; I can do Day 2 and 3, but after that.....

Anyway mafia, please kill me next? It's no fun to leave someone in the game who can't participate You know it's the right thing.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 21:29 GMT
#1757
So, to finish what I started in this post.

Much of what Tictock posted about his suspicion of Tumblewood was actually reactive. He responded to townreads that I posted about Tumblewood and ways that his read was directly questioned. His tone towards the Tumblewood lynch and the force with which he pushes it changes here, once it starts feeling like GlowingBear will be lynched.

And while his push on Tumblewood was of moderate involvement, his defense of scott and push onto Tumblewood on Day 3 seems almost nonexistant.

This strongly suggests that Tictock is mafia.

Thoughts? Did I mess up? I feel like End of Night disrupted my thought process a bit is the logic sensible?
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 21:35 GMT
#1758
Like, it's not that Tictock hasn't been helpful. It's not that he's really done stuff that town couldn't do.

It's just that his play fits mafia motivation very nicely. With his read on GlowingBear, with his push on Tumblewood. See how the strength of these vary over time, compare to the thread sentiment and mafia's goals at that time. See how his interactivity vs case-style analysis varies over time.

##vote Tictock

Going to go with this for now at least, before I doubt myself again.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
February 24 2016 22:32 GMT
#1760
On February 25 2016 07:16 nooniansoong wrote:
hmm why tt over breshke?
I'm more confident in Tictock being mafia.
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