Star Wars: The Mafia Awaken - Page 113

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 09 2016 11:59 GMT

#2241

On February 09 2016 20:56 disformation wrote:
TBF I think BF's scum meta is to try and lurk as hard as possible.
On the other hand self-metaing is a bit meh.

it is not.

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

February 09 2016 12:02 GMT

#2242

On February 09 2016 20:59 marvellosity wrote:

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it is not.

kay. nvm then. really need to read his filter. xD

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

February 09 2016 12:08 GMT

#2243

On February 09 2016 20:52 marvellosity wrote:

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On February 09 2016 20:47 boxerfred wrote:

On February 09 2016 20:26 marvellosity wrote:
ugh....

On February 04 2016 22:40 boxerfred wrote:
Okay. Let's settle somethings.

ritoky - scum
palmar - dunno, don't like his reaction to my post, scumlean
disformation - town
jat - he came in and it felt like he read the thread but answered to very specific things only. it's a stomach feeling but it's a bad feeling. problem is that I actually like what he's saying. hmm i dunno.
rels - seems focused on darthfoley and me, didn't drop any other reads (afaik, i went over his filter real quick, might've missed something). I'd townlean him.
marv - drops some town reads but isn't too scumhunting too much. last time he rolled scum he made a game to be rerolled which got him banned (or so?) so I'd actually give him a scumlean. high expectations vs. reality and so on.
nocturnemage, darthfoley: both disappeared a little bit, not liking that. scumleans

I think those are most thoughts on people that I have. Noct

On February 06 2016 04:13 boxerfred wrote:

On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf[ritoky] might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.

This post is good.

On February 04 2016 19:19 Palmar wrote:
ritoky did you ever explain why you have a dumb reason to TR jat?

This post follows up on an inquiry to ritoky. It is good.

On February 04 2016 19:28 Palmar wrote:
I am also somewhat close to starting to try to lynch marv, it's almost noon his time.

On February 04 2016 19:41 Palmar wrote:
I do like how I summoned marv though

This is also good.

On February 04 2016 19:48 Palmar wrote:

On February 04 2016 19:43 marvellosity wrote:

On February 04 2016 19:09 Palmar wrote:
bf might be mafia, there is no way that literally every point he made on disformation is scummy. Not even scum is scummy in every word.

is it me or does this post not make any sense?

he's pushing ritoky and the fact he's pushing the guy who's posting the most / doing the most stuff actually comes across rather townie to me

?

I ritoky is mafia and conjures up 6 points about a post from disformation, it is unlikely that every single one of them is genuinely disagreeable with bf. For example, he could have written the smiley = joke point off as meh.

It's similar to how mafia tend to way overquote when they build cases because they're trying to paint every single thing scummy, when in reality you usually catch people on one single thing or one post or some other minor subset of their entire filter.

Another follow up on the initial "ritoky is scum because of his shit about disformation" and it is good.

On February 04 2016 19:50 Palmar wrote:

On February 04 2016 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
carry on with your business, gentlemen.

well what do you think?

Wants marv, gets marv, tries to get marv started, it's good.

On February 04 2016 20:01 Palmar wrote:
bf straight up ignoring me hurts a bit

coming back on me when I ignored one of his questions, this is good.

On February 04 2016 20:05 Palmar wrote:

On February 04 2016 20:04 marvellosity wrote:

On February 04 2016 20:02 Palmar wrote:

On February 04 2016 20:02 marvellosity wrote:

On February 04 2016 20:01 ritoky wrote:
marv did you read the thread or just respond to palmar/click his filter?

i've read the thread

you chose the less enlightening option.

Does reading the thread include all of ritoky's big posts?

I've read them in a "my eyes went across all the words" kinda way, yes

so what do you think of ritoky?

comes back to ritoky, doesn't drop it although thread sentiment already dropped the ritoky topic, this is good.

And most interestingly:

On February 04 2016 22:50 Palmar wrote:

On February 04 2016 22:44 justanothertownie wrote:

On February 04 2016 22:36 Palmar wrote:
technically the "fake afk noted" post should make marv town.

That's also something I have trouble seeing Palmar believe. Yes, he did read and "catch" marv on small things like this before but that post is definitely not something only townmarv would say.

No, why not?

There is a very easy explanation (and there's also a reason I say technically).

When I'm town and marv is mafia, he doesn't like dealing with me. He generally sort of avoids it and tries to take the high road of "i'm always shit early / day 1". There's also a tone thing (which is usually how I catch him, he just sounds off) which often involves him lacking the standard marv sass, if only just slightly.

So when he actually sort of engages with me and questions me, while also remaining sassy enough to fire back a joke like that (it's a reference to me saying the same thing to him earlier in the game), it feels both tonally right and situationally right.

now the problem of course is marv is good at mafia, but seeing as he quit a game recently just because he rolled one, it's super hard for me to believe he'd actually try this game as scum, instead of just trying to afk through a day or two in hopes of picking off players who might get him lynched,.

Do you genuinely believe that this is irrelevant or do you think my explanation is reasonable?

tbh I don't see Palmar being scum for the reasons marv says. But I'm not impressed by marv so far. And Palmar says that marv doesn't like dealing with him, boom, Palmar not here, marv sets up Palmar for the lynch. marv are you scum?

more posts that don't go together.

How can bf say he doesn't like Palmar's reaction to his stuff, and then goes on to call all Palmar's posts good and then I'm mafia and an afk-Palmar is town?

how?

Easy. Scumlean is a thrown out list of reads, mostly based on gut and first impressions. The hard defense comes from a filter dive at a later D1. Of course you can nail me on that, but I think it wouldn't make sense for scum!bf to slightly bus palmar and then go full defense mode once he's the lynch.

it also doesn't make much sense for a townbf to dislike Palmar's reaction to what you said, only to later like it when nothing had changed. You literally said you didn't like his reaction and later called it good :/

hm. I kinda defended palmar for the sake of defence only since I didn#t even understand what problem people had with him. Guess it doesn't make sense.

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

February 09 2016 12:09 GMT

#2244

On February 09 2016 20:56 disformation wrote:
TBF I think BF's scum meta is to try and lurk as hard as possible.
On the other hand self-metaing is a bit meh.

This is wrong. When I'm scum, I'm precise, very "correct" (the british kind of correctness), even on point. I tend to play messy and emotional as town though (or completely inactive).

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

February 09 2016 12:10 GMT

#2245

I just dislike that I post a huge case and all that happens is that I'm under fire now.

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

February 09 2016 12:11 GMT

#2246

So I agree that the Palmar read progression was essentially dumb, yeh. However I also say that I'm town, and you shouldn't lynch me anytime soon. Especially not without reviewing the Chez case.

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

February 09 2016 12:30 GMT

#2247

On February 09 2016 20:54 marvellosity wrote:

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this is exactly the problem, it doesn't

Hm, yeah. On the other hand: isn't scum usually more worried about being consistent and therefore are not able to change their reads because they struggle to find a valid reason?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 09 2016 12:32 GMT

#2248

On February 09 2016 21:30 disformation wrote:

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Hm, yeah. On the other hand: isn't scum usually more worried about being consistent and therefore are not able to change their reads because they struggle to find a valid reason?

this is generic pap.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 09 2016 12:33 GMT

#2249

I can easily come up with the mafia motivation for what he did, but I don't understand how he reads Palmar's reaction once and doesn't like them, and reads them later and suddenly likes them.

and yes, bf, chez has a good chance of being mafia, but that doesn't mean you can't be either.

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

February 09 2016 12:41 GMT

#2250

Fair enough. Sry I am currently not braining properly. One of those not-enough-sleep too-much-caffeine days. Will come back later when I actually have enough brain power too read filters and think.

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

February 09 2016 12:52 GMT

#2251

Hm what can I Do to Not be mislynched then?

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 09 2016 12:59 GMT

#2252

On February 09 2016 21:52 boxerfred wrote:
Hm what can I Do to Not be mislynched then?

just keep playing really. you're not gonna be up for lynch for a day or two probably. the more you play the better i guess

boxerfred

Germany8360 Posts

February 09 2016 13:09 GMT

#2253

I'm pretty sure I'll manage to do that.

nooniansoong

1538 Posts

February 09 2016 13:12 GMT

#2254

im at work, im bored, im about to do stuff!

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 09 2016 13:13 GMT

#2255

On February 04 2016 09:05 Koshi wrote:

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Only if we pretend to be mafia

*chuckles quietly*

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 09 2016 13:16 GMT

#2256

I'm kinda just farting around looking at stuff. I'm also already assuming Koshi has flipped mafia, because he's gonna.

On February 05 2016 01:59 darthfoley wrote:
@Rels, and a tiny bit of Koshi shade

I think you're reading too much into a few cheeky posts at the beginning of the game. Nothing was really going on by that point, so I didn't feel the need to be super serious. I'm just not understanding why you aren't holding others to this similar standard of scum indicativeness; Zyrre, who made the "woo i'm town" post hasn't posted since and only NM seems to notice. He's also EU time which makes it even more sus imo. Not sure why other people can post shit memes and make jokes, but when I say "roger Gold leader" in a Star Wars themed game early D1, you scum read me for it. I literally said "i am here guyzzz"... like why would I ever be so literal in my phrasing if I were mafia?

This whole poke on me seems a little overzealous to me. I understand probing, but this is pointless. When I say that I'll be back in some hours, but still make a post, I simply don't have the time to make in depth posts or filter dive, but I have enough time (~5 minutes) to defend myself from rather toothless accusations.

@Koshi I appreciate your compliment. I hope I will continue to impress later, when I have time to actually analyze interactions in a meaningful way. Put me in, coach.

If darth is mafia, and he's pretty new, this would be a very ballsy thing to post.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

February 09 2016 13:20 GMT

#2257

Koshi's filter also makes me think kush is town.

LightningStrike

United States14276 Posts

February 09 2016 13:28 GMT

#2258

Morning guys I just woke up and saw Marv and dis going after boxerfred a little bit there. Also boxerfred did case Chez too. I prob should read both filtesr soon but kinda tired. Also I find it amusing that Chez is accusing Koshi of shooting ritoky lol.....

nooniansoong

1538 Posts

February 09 2016 13:37 GMT

#2259

On February 09 2016 22:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys I just woke up and saw Marv and dis going after boxerfred a little bit there. Also boxerfred did case Chez too. I prob should read both filtesr soon but kinda tired. Also I find it amusing that Chez is accusing Koshi of shooting ritoky lol.....

so did vayne

disformation

Germany8352 Posts

February 09 2016 13:41 GMT

#2260

On February 07 2016 07:52 Koshi wrote:
Maybe I just shoot ritoky.

IMO that is so full of WIFOM that I don't really want to touch it.