EPTAnd either way, it isn't important to the reasons I gave.
If you have reasons go TR Tumble, please share.
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Trfel
7015 Posts
And either way, it isn't important to the reasons I gave. If you have reasons go TR Tumble, please share. | ||
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nooniansoong
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Trfel
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On January 28 2016 10:40 Trfel wrote: On phone, but that's not what Tumble said. He said that he wasnt really reading shape as anything except for that specific thing that he mentioned. And either way, it isn't important to the reasons I gave. If you have reasons go TR Tumble, please share. tube says shape's metaread on me was NAI and him calling himself town was scummy. Later tumble specifies why he thinks SHape is scummier than darth, despite them both implying that themselves are town: Shapelog is just throwing an accusation out (trying to buddy) without much support at all. You can have a town read with few posts, and saying someone's trying to buddy in that situation is really off-putting. He also said many times that he wanted to filter dive certain people or that he wanted to revisit my case on him and never followed up. The part where he explains why he townreads darth is still incoming. However I believe he asked a question to darth which darth answered so it may have to do with that. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On January 28 2016 10:44 Trfel wrote: Sure, someone new might believe that. There's nothing wrong with it. Your point? my point is that if you accept that as an acceptable reason to scumread someone, tumbleweed's reads make perfect sense. | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
##vote jesusincarnate | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On January 28 2016 09:31 Trfel wrote: Tumblewood Tumblewood's first post here shows that he is scumreading Shapelog, and he says that this is because Shapelog made two posts where he said that he isn't scum. Tumblewood's argument is that because a townie wouldn't do this, then Shapelog is mafia. He also said that he had a scum lean of darthfoley because of two posts where darthfoley says that he is town, and adds that darthfoley has weird wording in a sentence (the explanation of the darthfoley read is here, where he says that this is the explanation for the scum lean he mentioned previously). Why is Shapelog a stronger scumread than darthfoley? He didn't mention anything else about their play other than these comments, which is weird. Also note that Shapelog was the top suspect at this time. Tumbleweed returned later and posted this post with new reads. He says that he's suspicious of Onegu, Shapelog, and Trfel. He also ends up with a null read on darthfoley, saying that he hasn't done anything to give him a read. This is really strange, because he described a scum lean on darthfoley previously, for the only reasoning that he's shared about Shapelog, who is still his scum read. There are lots of things I don't like about this post, I won't go into all of them, but it really gives the impression of trying to fit in. He later says that darthfoley's play has been solid lately, which doesn't match with his earlier statement that darthfoley hadn't done much to be read on. In addition to these read issues, Tumbleweed feels like he's responding to questions and thread sentiment, instead of actually wanting to solve the game. Tumblewood explained his read on Shapelog at my request, you can see this explanation here. Here, he describes why he's continuing to scumread Shapelog. However, you can see that all of the posts he quoted are between his first and second longer posts. Note that in the first post, he discounted Shapelog's "strange" play as non alignment indicative, and in the second, he said that Shapelog was scummy because of his extremely scummy play early on (pre page 16). However, the posts that Tumblewood mentions were all after page 16. This explanation isn't possible. Logically, Tumblewood cannot be scum. It's possible that he's town and messed up somehow, but given his filter as a whole, I think that he is scum. So this is the case that has have me waiting for. I agree Tumbleweed has been really all over the place, and most of his reads (at least mafia) is based off of what is currently going around. He is playing opportunistic, which i'm pretty sure is mostly a mafia play style. Like I said towards Alur question, I invertly gave Tumbleweed a opportunity to scum read me, which lead to this. I would not have gotten it otherwise. Also not being able to hold reads (scum reads especially) together is also a mafia trait. Eh i read his filter now that i have reached the end, before i call him scum I want to read over it and get my ideas about it. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On January 28 2016 10:46 nooniansoong wrote: my point is that if you accept that as an acceptable reason to scumread someone, tumbleweed's reads make perfect sense. I guess I could see a edger town trying to solve the game, and ends up posting a horrible case Vibe. Thing is, after all is side and done. I feel like he is still scum reading me for dumb reasons that he tries to find. It shows he is not reading the thread closely (which not a lot of people are doing i feel, including me) and that he isn't fully committed to finding scum. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Nooniansoong, why JesusIncarnate? Why not Onegu any more? For the second part, if you already said, I'll look later. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
He has said why b/4 i am pretty sure. Also I have decided to just let tumble fight the game himself. I feel like we have given him ways of brushing that case off. we need to see how he responds. | ||
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nooniansoong
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On January 28 2016 10:40 Trfel wrote: On phone, but that's not what Tumble said. He said that he wasnt really reading shape as anything except for that specific thing that he mentioned. And either way, it isn't important to the reasons I gave. If you have reasons go TR Tumble, please share. tumble says shape's metaread on me was NAI and him calling himself town was scummy. Later tumble specifies why he thinks SHape is scummier than darth, despite them both implying that themselves are town: Shapelog is just throwing an accusation out (trying to buddy) without much support at all. You can have a town read with few posts, and saying someone's trying to buddy in that situation is really off-putting. He also said many times that he wanted to filter dive certain people or that he wanted to revisit my case on him and never followed up. The part where he explains why he townreads darth is still incoming. However I believe he asked a question to darth which darth answered so it may have to do with that.[/QUOTE] | ||
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
On January 28 2016 03:32 nooniansoong wrote: I wish Jesus spoke english better. Here he is assuming Eden is town, yet he also says: this is my reasoning behind jesus. It's not great but jesus doesn't have a lot of filter to go off of. Which is another reason why he's a good d1 lynch, coincidentally. | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
On January 28 2016 09:34 nooniansoong wrote: I guess i'd be most comfortable with voting for Jesusincarnate because he was treating eden like assumed town then he says eden is up in the air. See my earlier post on the matter. . + On January 28 2016 03:32 nooniansoong wrote: I wish Jesus spoke english better. Here he is assuming Eden is town, yet he also says: = On January 28 2016 10:47 nooniansoong wrote: ##unvote ##vote jesusincarnate | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Onegu (1): PepperMintTea (0): Kuragari42 (1): Alur, Tumblewood (2): Trfel, darthfoley Trfel (1): Eden1892 JesusIncarnate (1): nooniansoong Not voting (7): PepperMintTea, Tumblewood, JesusIncarnate, Kuragari42, Ikidomari, Onegu, _MexicanAlien Currently, Tumblewood is set to be lynched. Deadline is Thursday, Jan 28 8:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). Voting is mandatory! If there are errors, please let us know. | ||
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Ikidomari
Australia485 Posts
On January 27 2016 22:42 Shapelog wrote: I don't like how this guy only post says that he has reasons to lurk and asking other people to give him questions. Idk, It might be town hearted because he seems to have good reasons to lurk for right now. Still if this guy doesn't post anything make sure you keep a eye on him, as i will be. As I said, I got very little sleep for a long time, and was very busy. I'm here now, I'm fresh, and I'm going to re-read the whole thread. Expect me to post my reads within 2-3 hours | ||
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Shapelog
United States5185 Posts
-roughly (give or take one or two) 37/57 posts from Trofl has been questions. -About 20 or so 1/2 liners. -Scattered reads and such. -cheerful and comical Tone throughout. -One big case (Tumbleweed) -Strong memory For tomorrow since I am tired and going to bed On January 28 2016 11:13 Ikidomari wrote: As I said, I got very little sleep for a long time, and was very busy. I'm here now, I'm fresh, and I'm going to re-read the whole thread. Expect me to post my reads within 2-3 hours Alright, sounds cool. No rush either, I rather you take the time to make good reads than rush and make crap ones. | ||
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darthfoley
United States8004 Posts
On January 28 2016 11:13 Ikidomari wrote: As I said, I got very little sleep for a long time, and was very busy. I'm here now, I'm fresh, and I'm going to re-read the whole thread. Expect me to post my reads within 2-3 hours Hi. Eager to see your thoughts on the game so far. | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
Darthfoley: I originally scumread him for reasons similar to Shapelog early on, but as the game progressed his play got stronger / more town-like, unlike Shapelog's. He seems very willing to consider the opposite perspective on things. (example) He's less focused on promoting an agenda and more on finding scum; I suppose I could say I find his reads more organic, and he's responding instead of leading. (exam ples) Eden His first real post felt very solidly townie to me. The reasoning is in-depth, and it seems like he started with the facts and drew from that conclusions (ex: "So we can either assume that Shapelog is a bad noob scum player, who also doesn't have anybody on his team to tell him that his early posting isn't doing anything to help, and who also doesn't have a scum coach telling him the same thing... or we can just assume that he is an eager townie, as his posts read." instead of "So we can assume that Shapelog is an eager townie."). He's also trying to work with his suspects instead of calling them scum right out. (example) Both of those feel very townie and not agenda-motivated. | ||
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Kuragari42
United States346 Posts
You did read Eden for meta originally. There was no mention as far as I saw other than the meta read of why you town read him. My phone is about to die so peace out until tomorrow. Left off at post #627. | ||
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