Holyflare (3): raynpelikoneet, Palmar, Trfel
Trfel (2): AlotSomuch, NocturneMage
raynpelikoneet! (1): Holyflare

Not voted (7): VisceraEyes, Ace, ritoky, Cephiro, geript, DoYouHas, Damdred

Currently, Holyflare is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 17 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

January 16 2016 22:12 GMT

#372

Vote Count

Holyflare (3): raynpelikoneet, Palmar, Ace
Trfel (3): AlotSomuch, NocturneMage, geript
raynpelikoneet! (1): Holyflare
NocturneMage (1): Trfel
AlotSomuch (1): Cephiro

Not voted (4): VisceraEyes, ritoky, DoYouHas, Damdred

Currently, Holyflare is being lynched. You have until Sunday, Jan 17 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), or to lynch someone. Voting is mandatory and done in this thread.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

January 18 2016 01:39 GMT

#632

raynpelikoneet has been modkilled. Do not discuss the modkill. Flip will come with the EoD post. Carry on.

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

January 18 2016 02:05 GMT

#639

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

January 18 2016 13:31 GMT

#674

ftr folks

hf never at any point contacted the mods about not wanting to play the game + obviously to us had time to both see that the game was restarting and at least see that he'd received a pm, if not actually read it

we def prob should have sent out confirmation pms and i know that i at least will in the future regardless of how soon this was after the first game and the indisputable fact that every single one of you who was in both games would have still been playing d1 had the first game not been aborted. we should have taken into account the fact that some of you might have had motivation issues because of the first game

nevertheless, there was NO REASON for ANYONE to assume that hf's complaints in thread were legitimate here. he is more than aware to contact the hosts if he has an issue rather than throwing a fit in-thread with the expectation that any mod action would be taken. this is a game of deception. the bleed over from the obs qt should never have happened, and although i'm not sure that people still wouldn't have been (incorrectly) confused there, it certainly didn't help

simply put do not assume before a host posts that anything said in-thread is true. this is mafia. @.@

(also ftr lex still doesn't think we should have sent pms lol after looking this over to make sure my bitchiness is within acceptable levels)

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

January 18 2016 14:40 GMT

#681

On January 18 2016 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
Of course you should, I only agreed to replace into the first game because it was starting and I was asked to /in last second. If it could have been that you got more people for a reroll I would have gone on the replacement list again.

I also didn't have time to see a reroll and contact you since I had my pm already.

Either way I stuck it out and people spammed the thread from obs and while the host message wasn't intended to be directed towards me it wouldn't have necessarily been posted if I was mafia. Rayn sure took my posts and the obs spam and the host message to mean I was town at least. You should be requesting bans for those people.

yeah this sort of thinking from players in general is a bit ridiculous tbh. the host message would always have occurred because of the obs spam. period. you people need to redefine what "mod-confirmed" means because this is never a mod-confirmation here and is only player speculation

the rest is noted

rsoultin

Netherlands15308 Posts

January 18 2016 16:26 GMT

#704

On January 19 2016 01:15 sicklucker wrote:
I agree with jat. An invite game shouldnt be terrible people just made it terrible. You just dont fucking accept if you dont want to play. ITs not like theres any prestige being invited anyway. Literally half the community was in it lol.

Theres no obligation its not like you were picked out of 100 candidates. Its like 13-20 people of 40 candidate some of which are coag

Lol, why do you think lex and i were hosting?

More seriously, I think both camps are right. I do think that people feel more obligated to accept when personally asked to join an invite game by someone, but you and jat are right to say that this feeling is illogical. If you don't have time, don't play. It's the same to me as, if you don't feel like you can play both alignments, don't /in. Everyone knows what they're getting into when they sign up.

Also @kita...yeah. It's a little silly how often people blather on about mod confirmations, and how often hosts have to consider what an action will appear to be even if it's not that at all to someone with limited or no information. I honestly don't actually care if people use faulty logic for their reads. We all do at one time or another. It's only a problem when they use it as an excuse to break the rules and ruin the game for all the other players.

It was as disappointing for me to see behavior like this from the so-called "best" of TL as no doubt it was for the players who were actually looking forward to this game. I just hope the people who need to take something from how it played out do.

Notes for future rsoultin hosting:
1) re-confirmations if necessary
2) be more clear with host posts (I actually think that simply saying "anyone who isn't a player or a host should stop posting in an on-going game" might have prevented some of the nuttiness here, but hindsight and all that.)

That said, also open to any other suggestions. I know hosts can't control players but I can't help but feel that we probably could have done something to keep this better contained.