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![[image loading]](http://www.notparisienne.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/dodgeball.png) Endgame Cotton McKnight: I'm being told that Average Joe's does not have enough players and will be forfeiting the championship match. Pepper Brooks: It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em. Final Vote Count GlowingBear (5): NocturneMage, GiygaS, Kmatt, nooniansoong, mderg mderg (2): Fecalfeast, Fidei86 GiygaS (1): GlowingBear GlowingBear the Vanilla Townie has been lynched. GiygaS the Vanilla Townie has been endgamed. nooniansoong the Vanilla Townie has been endgamed. mderg the Vanilla Townie has been endgamed. Fecalfeast the Vanilla Townie has been endgamed. Kmatt the Mafia Roleblocker has survived. NocturneMage the Mafia Goon has survived. Fidei86 the Mafia Goon has survived. FLAWLESS MAFIA VICTORY Setup and Coaching QTs Mafia QT Obs QT Congrats to the mafia team! Thanks for playing everyone. ^_^ Special thanks to disformation for doing an awesome job co-hosting and to DoYouHas, Blazinghand, Half the Sky, and Artanis[xp] for providing their coaching services. Additional thanks to The Shining and FecalFeast for being willing to sub into a losing situation to help avoid the modkills. Finally, thanks to geript for his awesome day one analysis that I'll share shortly. Shout-outs to Half the Sky and Rels for correctly predicting the mafia team in the observers qt! | ||
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Post Game Here are some quick thoughts I had about the Newbies and vets new to TL. If I happen to come off as a bit negative, don't let it bother you since these games are a learning experience and a lot of the positives were excluded since you've already got a handle on those things. disformation has also helped out by providing his thoughts in italics. Kmatt - Really nice job on your first game. That large post on GB was excellent at throwing people off your trail. Even in the obs, people struggled to connect you to your buddies in a way that made sense. Props for managing to role block the detective on consecutive nights as well. For things that you can work on, I'd suggest taking a few extra seconds to proof read your posts for things like "too much information" and posts that townies are going to find suspicious like "if we were to lynch Scott, we would learn almost nothing. Even if he came up scum". Looking out for those kind of things comes with experience. In a more typical game, your 3 page filter is going to raise some eyebrows and you aren't going to get away with using the newbie card for much longer. I am not 100% if I only say this because I have perfect information: but N1/D2 after the great wall on GlowingBear you didn't do that much. There were 8 posts from you after that until the Onegu lynch. This could get interpreted as a "well as soon as he was town read and had the case out, he completely vanished." Which can be a scum tell. Also nice to see someone having a balls of steel when rolling scum for the first time. You will probably be someone putting out crazy plays in the future. Shapelog - lol you had some funny posts, but watch out for the spam. It's fine in moderation, but people might focus on your post to content ratio and start to suspect you for not saying much. You tend to have a lot of questions in your filter, but now you need to work on following up afterwards. Try to show how the replies to these questions lead you to a certain conclusion. On day one, you were the single vote on a player that probably wasn't going to get lynched. Either you need to focus on convincing others to join you or be willing to move elsewhere so that your vote isn't totally irrelevant. Hope you're recovering well! Hoping you get well soon as well! Otherwise pretty much what kitaman27 already said. Funny posts are great and a bit of spam is fine, especially early D1, but after that have a bit more purpose in your posts. Try asking yourself what you are really want to say with a post or what direct purpose a post has. TheCow - Your thought process seemed to be rather sound and you were one of the few players to actually vote for a mafia player this game with your suspicions of Kmatt. However, your activity prevent you from having much of an impact on the game. A lot of the time it seemed like you were catching up, which shouldn't really have been a problem in a game with so few posts. Either you need to allocate a bit more time to being able to make a few more posts each day or you need to figure out a way to use the time that you do have a bit more efficiently so that all your time isn't being devoted to simply reading the game. I really liked your posts and your formatting of those. Wish there would have been more though. Putting out great posts, but not posting much at all, was also what made the scum team correctly guess you were a PR, since they thought you made an effort of staying under the radar. Also where the hell did you wander of to?  Irishbound - You definitely come off as an experienced player based on your confidence and willingness to share concrete reads. Mafia saw you as the greatest threat, even after leading the mislynch on scott, which says something. Unfortunately, the day one reads were hit and miss, but that tends to happen sometimes. You may have been a bit too forgiving of Kmatt due to him playing the newbie card, though it's tough to say from a position of perfect information. You were like the only town player that had no problem actually looking like town. Easy N1 shot. GiygaS - I'd like to see a bit more content from you next time, otherwise I'd be concerned about you becoming an easy mislynch target. Sometimes it's tough to avoid, but try not to disappear from the thread for extended periods of time. If you're struggling to make posts or figure things out, just try to share your thought process a bit better so at least people can develop a stronger town read on you. A lot of time it was difficult to follow what your reads were. For instance, your day two vote on onegu was basically the first time you mentioned him all game. There are other players that don't even show up in your filter like NM. It seems like you sometimes limit your voting options to the players that are viewed as scummy based on town sentiment, which is ok at times, but in games where town happens to be consistently wrong you're giving a free pass to any mafia players who happen to be playing under the radar. At one point you develop a town read on fidei for his reading of the thread and a town read on kmatt for his mega post. Be careful in assuming that only town players will put in effort. You had some decent suspicions of kmatt otherwise, but he was able to throw you off because of this. I think your posts definitely showed improvements when it comes to sharing your thoughts on day three compared to day one. In my opinion, posts #1147 through #1149 were your strongest posts in terms of making people think you looked townie." I agree with kitaman27 that #1147 through #1149 were your strongest posts, but I was a bit disappointed when you left without really doing anything with these. Like you imply that you could be wrong on your town reads, which means town is completely on the wrong track at that point. Try to get town to think about these scenarios, especially in a MYLO situation. Maybe move your vote. Try to reread a filter. Yell at people. You need to have a bit more impact on the game you are in. geript's Day One Analysis Forewarning. I'm a player that very much relies on meta and understanding how a player thinks in order to understand what they're doing and trying to do. That said, the basics of analyzing a mafia game are really based in analyzing both the minutia and the big picture at the same time. I analyze the game two ways simultaneously: first by trying to find town and second by trying to find scum. I find that finding town is often more important as it's often easier to find 4 town than 1 scum; in a mini game (~13 or less people), finding 4 other town gives you a random shot at hitting scum 37.5% of the time (which is a 12.5% increase). When you add the ability to look at the remaining 8 players for "mafia stuffs" then you should be able to increase that to a 50% shot at worst. Additionally, I like to rank players on a 1-7 scale. 1 being confirmed scum (or essentially) and 7 being confirmed town (or essentially) with 4 being completely null. Forewarning 3. I've had a really shitty day so far and am pretty drunk currently. So until I say I'm not, take what I say with exactly 1.5 grains of salt. Forewarning 4. I've been sober for half of this roughly. I'm writing this to help everyone explain how I approach a game (from the town side) so that you all can take how I operate and read and use it to better look and analyze in the future. On December 29 2015 07:05 scott31337 wrote: I agree with the stone man here. Haven't you learned yet Bear? This is the epitome of a do nothing post. It doesn't do anything, it doesn't go anywhere. On top of this, scott tends to have some actual thought-ish type thing when he posts as town. I'll put him in in the <4 category for now and look at him more later on. On December 29 2015 07:29 Irishbound wrote: I can already tell my complete lack of meta or understanding of what happend in prior games you guys have played together is going to make it difficult to scumhunt and follow some conversations. Know it's a weak thing but I'm leaning town on Noonian already, think scum would be less likely to be so brazen to make #62 and like his instant "That's anti-town to do" reaction towards Glowings statement. I understand that we're meant to be voting in a separate thread to make it easier for the mod to tally up votes but I'd appreciate if everyone also posted here with their vote -- it'll make following the game and reading into context behind votes much easier than attempting to line up timestamps of when people voted in comparison to their thoughts/posts in here. @Glowing - Who is this Kush you're voting? This post looks really like it comes from a smurf instead of a newbie. IDK who, nor do I care right now. But it's a mental note that I have higher expectations for this person than the average player. On December 29 2015 08:07 GlowingBear wrote: You're the quickest townread I have ever had! Hi! Welcome to the forums! Kush is nooniasoong. This account he is using is actually a smurf. Every time I talk about kush, I am talking about nooniasoong. Don't worry with meta. I think most of us in this thread doesn't use it. But we may talk about past games. It won't take much part of the game, so you can relax This is a really fucking terrible post and a really bad townread. It's not explained. There's not really a thought process to it either. I hope someone pushes him for an explanation because this is weak at best <4 for GB. On December 29 2015 08:25 GlowingBear wrote: Pretty much sincere opening with him giving an opinion right away on what he likes. Sounds like someone who feels free to play the game without concern of how he looks. I get that tone reads are a thing. But this is basically the example of a useless response. It sounds all nice and pretty, but it doesn't really advance the thread in any meaningful way. You can't really argue over whether or not something "sounded sincere." On December 29 2015 08:52 Irishbound wrote: I didn't like Scott bandwagoning with Nonians comment in #167, it's also a very easy way for scum to enter into the thread, quite a similar concern with Mdergs #168 although I have liked him prodding you about your town read on me. Do understand that Giygas accusation on Noonian in #172 was a joke but I find it's the type of statement that scum awkwardly make more often than town do, either way I think I'll be able to get a stronger read on the three of them as the day progresses. This is a very "tryharding" type of post. Without knowing Irish, there's not a way to analyze this right now. However, I want to see how far this "try hard" attitude keeps up so I can actually measure this then. On December 29 2015 09:06 GiygaS wrote: 100% just curious, you seemed to be on top of things which I didn't expect from someone who's first TL game this is. Probably would have shifted more town if I knew you were less experienced as only experienced mafia players could fake like that. I really like this observation for a few reasons. It comes across as paranoid (which tends to be towny), but also it comes across as, how to explain it, accurate. I don't think it's necessarily accurate, but it feels like GiygaS is picking up on it looking like Irish has play before somewhere. That's not really a thought that scum tends to put into the thread this early to think about to push. I'll put GiygaS as >4 for now. On December 29 2015 09:13 Kmatt wrote: Well just by probability there's a better chance of town than mafia. No real information to work off of yet. He seems to be working more on making a positive image of himself compared to everyone else. Made a lot of early posts like. He just seems to be trying to be overly friendly and helpful compared to everyone else who seems to be content to wait for more information. Then again this is Newbie Student Mafia so being more friendly and helpful is to be expected (I think). No one else's first posts had much substance aside from how you were reading into it, but GB seems to be trying at getting his name out there in a positive light. I don't think that's nearly enough to convict someone, just trying to practice reading into posts. Typical mafia newbie post. Not indicative for me but noting it for later. On December 29 2015 09:23 NocturneMage wrote: Alright so starting off, I'm not sure I agree with this read and some of this boils down to the definition of anti-town. The use of "anti-town" here could be coming from either alignment, when anti-town is considered to mean not just scummy, but possibly also from town not acting in the best interest of town. Any VT (when referencing GB's comment) saying "I wish I was blue" can be considered anti-town because one can make the argument that claiming VT narrows down the field for mafia to find who the blue(s) are. So this can be considered anti-town (not in the best interest) even if the comment is coming from town. To this end, and seeing that Irishbound is an experienced mafia player, it's safe to say this comment should not have warranted the town read that he gave him. To me, this read should have been null at best, as I feel a comment like this could come from either alignment. On this alone, that's a scumlean, but I'll continue through the rest of the thread. I don't like this post and I honestly don't know why right now. On December 29 2015 09:28 Shapelog wrote: I fall asleep after eating and 1 and half pages gets written, was hoping for more. Any ways, I can understand Kmatt and about how GB is putting a postive vibe out there. Personally though, its not enough for me to really be concern about it. Only GB town read on irish is weird I like Kmatt, he hates my main race in sc2 ^.^ (though, tbf i do not use ults a lot, only like 60% of my ZvT games) Mostly everything is NAI towards me or reads slightly AL. Irish's intro to me seemed a bit construed when i 1st read it but now seems a bit more free flowing. I can see the town points GB is talking about but i do not think that warrents him a free town read. IDK, idc for strong town reads on a person on D1 (Rikoty lol) This is a really bad post. Rating <3 for now for a few reasons. First, it's really out of sync with how I'm reading and viewing the thread; more often than not people whose views are "detached" from reality tend to be scum. Second, it's a big pile of "do nothing, say nothing" without being obvious about "do nothing, say nothing." If this guy is town, I expect to see towny reads come from a "lone wolf" type perspective. On December 29 2015 09:52 NocturneMage wrote: I'm also falling into the category of townreading mderg for being more sceptical on that read/alignment over GB. GigyaS first few posts - not really getting much either way out of his 3 posts. First post (172) is banter, could come from either alignment. 186 (experience query) same deal, either alignment. Third post might warrant a slight town lean, possible mindmeld looking into Irish's experience as a possible detriment from a perspective standpoint. However the caveat here is that it's not entirely clear whether GigyaS townreads Irish lightly or doesn't at all. It's not explicit. I'm really torn on this post. I like the townlean thought. He's a bit conflicted about his Gigyas read; the reason why I'm putting NocturneMage as a townread here (albeit lightly) is that you can see an progression of thought where there's a direct connection that isn't stated. I.E. Mindmeld re: Irish's experience = town but no given read on him. It makes me think that NM is thinking about how to look at Giygas and that's townie. On December 29 2015 10:11 Kmatt wrote: I didn't really mean anything by saying that he was "probably town", just purely the 3/11 (27%) vs 8/11 (73%) chance factor. I actually didn't think about the buddying factor though, since none of the people he was "buddying" came off as suspicious to me. I wouldn't go as far as to say that GB is showing mafia behavior, just that he stood out to me. If I had to guess right now, his posts would make more sense for a mafia to do. However, that seems like it would be an obvious (mafia) rookie mistake (considering a scrub "caught" him on it), which I wouldn't expect of him. I'm still neutral on it for now. Kind of the same with Irish. He's certainly putting more ideas out there than a lot of other posters, but nothing that would really swing me either way. This post just really looks like he's completely backtracking off of his previous post for little to no reason. minus points for now. On December 29 2015 10:41 GiygaS wrote: The joke was forced in that I wanted to post to say "I'm here" basically, but didn't really have much to say. As for what I think about Irish, slight town lean. Only real suspicion is on GB atm for his very matter of fact town read (I agree with it to some extent but he was very confident in it so early which I thought was weird) and that weird first post. He's sticking to his guns. He's not wasting time on things. He's clarifying without really pandering. He's really succinct in a useful way. I'd be really surprised if this guy is mafia. His points might not be right but I really don't care. That said, the GB thing is a good pick up. On December 29 2015 10:47 scott31337 wrote: GB throwing out townreads like it's drunken Monday - hmmm... Okay, I'm extremely doubtful a newb mafia makes the post above with the information available. Maybe GB was right  You get a townlean for this Irish. I could possibly jump on this - but it's a big bag of joke/null for now... This Kmatt guy kind of does what I do - quote into notepad, post thoughts - I like this so far as well. I'll work on page 11 after the American Football game (or maybe halftime) Minus more points. This is something that newer/less comfortable mafia do; the comment "on" the thread in almost a summary post way but also in a way that isn't really defensible. They can end up swinging either way at with it if they really want. This is very much a "post just to post" post. On December 29 2015 16:40 Irishbound wrote: If you're referring to this post of his then not really. I did like him admitting that his initial post was somewhat forced in his following posts but I really want to see more stances from him, he's not really taken many thus far which is problematic. You're going to have to explain this for me in more detail because I find it really hard to believe you've read this thread properly and kept the assumption that I'm a "newb", there's even a discussion that's gone down with how many games I've played (And it was on page 10, the page you're claiming to have finished) so your reasoning for town reading me here comes across as very fake. I really like this push. I don't actually think it's alignment indicative for Irish, but it's a good push at a good target. I'm interested to see where it ends up. On December 29 2015 16:58 Irishbound wrote: @Shape - I've explained my issue with Giygas post as much as I can really. What content specifically are you waiting for and what's stopping you from getting reads from what's been posted thus far? I'm fairly confident that Nocturnal is town, the manner that he's scumhunting and looking into posts / questioning and prodding people comes across very natural, I can follow his thought process very well. Still think Glowing and Noon are probably town though admittedly those are weaker reads in comparison. Really don't like any of Scotts catch up at all and actually think there's a very decent chance he's mafia here, went into it above but there's no way he can consider me as a newb or town read me on the basis of inexperience if he's read the thread properly which suggests either a) He skimmed the thread when catching up (Which mafia are generally more likely to do) or b) He did notice when reading that I was experienced elsewhere and didn't bother to update his post with it (Which again is something that makes sense for mafia to do, town reevaluate thoughts on new information, mafia just type a post to seem like they're doing something). Either way I'm happy to drop a vote down now: Vote: Scott Overall, between the good push and where he's at on people I'm going ot mark Irish with a point and a half. I think it's the right spot give or take roughly even if we may disagree on minor points; his viewpoint of who's where is consistent without being constrained by it. To explain a bit, mafia tend to feel constrained by their reads. They can or can't switch reads because it'll "look scummy" or be "too hard" to explain. So they can feel "locked in." Alternatively, they can try to "play the field" by giving no reads and/or super soft reads. Irish is right in the middle; his reads make sense but he's willing to think on them. He's like "fuck it, here's where I'm at. Go eat a dick." It might not be the most effective method, but big picture I think he's town. On December 29 2015 21:46 Fidei86 wrote: @Irishbound I should say that my read is 100% meta/tone. From a content perspective, there's nothing to add to your post. I agree with what you say, I'm just letting my previous games with Scott colour my read. I don't like this post. It doesn't really say anything. It's pretty typical of scum to defend some random towny who's likely to be lynched for "being right" cred. Maybe he'll explain it better on, but I'm not terribly happy with fido. On December 30 2015 00:08 NocturneMage wrote: Also - You didn't play Nutcracker did you? Shapelog was like this there too. I'm just going to ignore the spam and focus on where he actually gives reads or alignment stuff. There was one set of reads where he said everything to him was NAI up to a post with GB which I really didn't agree with and I wasn't sure if initially he was trying to be noncomittal. From a wording thing the other thing was Shapelog saying that he was going to "wait for more content" which generally for a player I don't know well is a scum tell because scum generally play a more reactive game. I'll admit to being biased, but I always like these posts because I'm a heavy meta player. It gives me some context to how a player plays and lets me easily look at a game he's played. I'd do more than just that because you have to for meta; but it's a good little "run down". Plus, I like how short and useful it is. On December 30 2015 01:40 Kmatt wrote: Might be my scrub showing, but I wouldn't think on that too much. Since we're on the internet, I would imagine people are bouncing between a couple of tabs before they come back to refresh this page. I know I often go back and review my own posts because I feel picky about sentence structure and grammar, etc. That really bothers me in this setup because I can't edit so if I post and see something I don't like, I'm forced to accept my repetitive structure or run-on sentence, etc. I like htis post. I don't think I can even explain it but I do. Maybe I'll think of it later. On December 30 2015 01:40 nooniansoong wrote: I want to plynch onegu. Kush wanting to policy lynch Onegu is really fucking weird. I can understand why but Kush doing it is just odd. Potentially not an awful read; the problem is that just being around and doing nothing isn't really indicative. On December 30 2015 04:15 Fidei86 wrote: I guess you caught me - everything that GB has done has basically been a big pile of "ehh". He has a lot of townreads and not much else. Scott pointing that out is NAI - it's just pointing out something that is factually true. I don't want to lynch GB off the back of it - hell we enough people AFKing through D1 to make a ton of better options. Re my tone read on Scott - that's fair. I might be set in my ways a little bit on him. I don't think Scott really has anything of any substance in his filter, so I'll move him back to null. As to my read on you - the first time we played together you were meek, the second you were outraged, and both times you were town. This time you seem more ... in the middle? I can't really fault any of your content though. Rels' Useful List of Useless People: - Onegu - TheCow For a decent amount of talk, this post really doesn't say anything, more minus points. On December 30 2015 08:59 Shapelog wrote: I mean look at what just happen. GB keep drawing out the conversation, i keep pusing, He posts me a question, Kush answers, I talk with kush, He fucking disperses. Conclusion: GB is a fucking ninja, and just gave me perfect tinfoil. Does no one else thinks the above is scummy? There's town weird, scum weird and newbie town weird. When you follow through Shape's filter, he looks more like he doesn't have a clue as to what to do and is trying to do something. That's generally a town trait. I'll add a point here. On December 30 2015 09:05 TheCow wrote: I have caught up to post 252. I still have 100 more posts to go through. I expect something pretty major out of this guy or he's a good lynch. If you're saving up to comment on things On December 30 2015 09:22 GlowingBear wrote: I think Kmatt's filter has been wishy washy, that's why I voted him. I could quoting and explaining my rwas but I'm actually too lazy right now to put effort I'm also playing another game which from times to times keeps me from giving my full attention to this one not an awful point. On December 30 2015 10:03 TheCow wrote: Okay, finally caught up! Here's my introduction proper. Hello everyone, I'm TheCow. This is my first game here on the TL site. I have previous experience on other sites such as TownOfSalem and MafiaScum as well as several anime and manga sites such as MangaFox. I look forward to playing here. ===== ##vote:Kmatt I am voting Kmatt because I believe he has a reasonable chance of being scum at this time. The specifics of this is up to debate but here are my primary points: 1) Kmatt appears to be sort of inconsistent with his stances in a way which -- in my eyes -- suggests he's playing in a opportunistic manner. First example: Posts 187 and 192. 2) The appearance of minor [active lurking] in that I cannot see many definitive stances, contention points, or general conviction in his filter. 3) Flimsy accusations where they exist (Kmatt->GB, Kmatt->Onegu). Another scum read I currently have is Scott. Here are some direct quotations from my notes: + Show Spoiler + Scott->Irish TR cite " extremely doubtful a newb mafia makes the post above with the information available". After implying GB is scum/bad/some combination thereof. "hmmm..." The posts Scott chooses to look at are the pretty benign one. Looks like he is attempting to appear that he is going through the thread without going through the thread -- active lurking. Need further information, but scumlean for now. Because of scott's lower activity level and because he is already the leading wagon, I decided to place my vote on my secondary scum read (Kmatt) as I believe it will be far more productive. ===== At this time, I have town-leans on Noct, Shapelog, (tentatively) Giygas. I have null reads on Irishbound (conflicted), Fidei (do not trust myself to read this slot), GB (conflicted), Onegu (do not trust myself to read this slot), mderg (require further reading), nooniansoong. (S,T,T,~,~,S) respectively. His reasons for where he's at aren't great. They're ok. Voting Kmatt over Scott is a little weird. I'd like to see far more from Cow as it relates to explaining how he is where he is. Just basically get why on stuff. I'm oddly okish on Cow though. +0.5 Kmatt -1 Shapelog -2 TheCow +NGS, +0.5 Irishbound +E, +GP, +1 GiygaS +1, +1 NocturneMage -1 ???, +1 Fidei86 -1, -1 mderg GlowingBear -1 Onegu nooniansoong scott31337 -1, -1 E=experience GP=good push NGS= needs good stuff ???=idk Ok so at this point in the thread theres ~12 or so hours to go to lynch around p 23. This gives me an idea of who i want to filter and look at in specific (and in relation to what's going on in the thread). I'm going to filter Shapelog first; I kinda think that he's actually probably just newb town but I want to take an in depth look there. Next I'm going to look at Fido and Scott; I think at least one of them is scum and right now I'm leaning towards. The last person I'm more interesting in looking at is Kmatt. If I don't feel comfortable with voting for at least 2 of those 4, then I'd expand my search to the other -1's and nulls. I'm going to analyze the rest of D1, all of N1 and the 3/4ths of D2 on the next day's analysis; I'm going to do that because those areas (mostly) are the relevant zones you should be reading (for the most part) in preparation for the D2 lynch. | ||
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GlowingBear I'm sorry. GGs everyone else. DoYouHas, I am grateful for your expertise, KMatt fantastic go as first time on the forum and James way to hang tight. | ||
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Part 1: (Co-)Hosting Most importantly, a huge shout out to kitaman27 for hosting this game, letting me co-host and coping with my PM spam! I sent kitaman27 a METRIC FUCKTON of PM's over the course of the game. Yes, I kept tally on how many PMs I sent kitaman27. Unfortunately I picked the wrong team to root for in the beginning and as such this game was kinda depressing to read. I also want to apologize for ranting up the Obs QT at some points. Personally I am not sure if I like m12 games, though. I guess there is a reason why most games are m13 or higher on tl.net. Part 2: What did make this game so painful?
Part 3: What to take home from this game Activity does not equal town Posting Walls does not equal town Inactive Thread equals scum win Never ever play in two games at once I really need to learn how to blue snipe Part 4: Shout outs Shapelog I really hope you get better soon and will be able to join us for future games! TheCow I liked your early posts. What the hell happened man? Irishbound I promise that not every game is such a landslide victory and hope you will join us for future games as well. DoYouHas You are like the Kmatt Damn solid first game. Keep this stuff up and you may get a best newbie nomination. MafiaMage Holy fuckin' hell. Your scum game in NSM 13 was pretty bad. This game you were town jesus AND lead your scum team. I am super amazed about that N1 blue snipe. Like I would have probably agreed that TheCow might be blue, but I would have been super hard to convince to RB him and not the KP target, cause possible Vet. Like I am shocked and amazed at the same time here. How the fuck did you manage to improve this much? Tell me your secrets, pretty please? Well, as I established DYH did a damn great job coaching you guys, but I think you stepped your game up on your own by miles, too. I loved how you tried to help Fword with his postings and kept him motivated, when he was starting to fall off pretty hard. There were some things in your play that were off and could have been picked up by the more experienced players, but I am not sure if I was only able to see them cause I knew your alignment. Obs QT was struggling hard to see that stuff. Might consider a most improved player nomination here. I will also drop some nice fun facts soon. So stay tuned! | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
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nooniansoong
1538 Posts
kmatt how is that your first game.. you liar | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
(Speaking of which, I mislynched two dota players, woohoo!) | ||
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disformation
Germany8352 Posts
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Fid would've been my next lynch if I survived the night with a green check on GB. That probably would've given me NM. Kmatt did good at not being necessarily associated to his team. Im still really sad I never get to play blue, replace into it and get shot. Lmao it wasn't even for anything I did xD | ||
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