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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
December 02 2015 22:01 GMT
#641
Vote Count


MoosyDoosy (3): Fidei86, Trfel, kushm4sta
LightningStrike (3): Damdred, disformation, Palmar
DoYouHas (1): Half the Sky
Trfel (1): DoYouHas
Fidei86 (1): Rels

Not Voting (4): LightningStrike, The Shining, MoosyDoosy, Onegu


Currently MoosyDoosy is set to be lynched.

This Day ends at Wednesday, Dec 02 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

Lynch Voting is done in the voting thread (here). Do not PM me your vote.

Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
December 02 2015 22:01 GMT
#642
Catching up now.

I can't see any scum motivation behind Trfel's hard defending of me. It doesn't even look like positioning for my flip is even really a possibility here. I was going after him, voted him, thread sentiment is against me. I'm an easy EASY person for scum trfel to keep the heat on. That he ran the other direction when there is no reason to as mafia is major town points in my book. Unvoting.
Guts? Determination? $5?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 02 2015 22:01 GMT
#643
Let me juts simply state why LS is scum so people will go yep sheep the damdred.

1) Little to no reads
2) No scum hunting
3) Not really involved in the thread as it goes forward, really side lined
4) Has no scum reads at all even states as much
5) His trfel progression is very strange

Good lynch indeed
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 02 2015 22:02 GMT
#644
On December 03 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
Btw, the people who are pushing lynches (damdred -> LS, Trfel -> MD and Shining -> Trfel??). Can you all summarize your points in a short case. It makes it so much easier for everyone involved if people actually build cases.

I'd be building one if I had one (I tried to summarize my concerns about shining last night). I just don't quite know what I want to do right now.
I've done so, perhaps it was too simple for you to consider it a case.

You didn't agree, and I don't think that I can change your mind, so I won't try.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:02 GMT
#645
On December 03 2015 06:56 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:53 The Shining wrote:
Damdred before I sheep you, can you explain something to me?

You had fidei on one of your earlier town lists. Then you had him just above LS on your next list after that, saying he was dropping. Then in one of your last few posts regarding him, you said he was still a town lean. So that 2nd post:

On December 02 2015 09:36 Damdred wrote:
Disinformation
Eels
Damdred
Shining
Palmar

Leans
Trfel
Fid (falling)
Ls

Honestly it's notso bad so far even though I've read 0 filters.


Are those leans weak town leans or scum leans?


These were also gut reads mind you where I had just glanced at posts 0 filters read at that point. They were slightly town leans.


So you still hadn't read when you voted Fidei over LS? Then read and backtracked on Fidei iirc because of some posts and that his activity fit his scum lurkiness but you like some things in his post and then started pushing LS. Do I have this timeline right? Sorry I had a ton of pages to read and I don't wanna misunderstand.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 02 2015 22:02 GMT
#646
On December 03 2015 06:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:27 Palmar wrote:
This is 100% a policy lynch.

That being said, intentionally bad players should be policy lynched. I see no effort at all from moosy trying to actually help this game.

Catching up. This.


There you are. Can you explain why you are voting Moosy when you have a pretty fleshed out read on LS? You are saying you aren't confident on LS but your points are pretty clear in your list post.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 02 2015 22:03 GMT
#647
On December 03 2015 07:02 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
Btw, the people who are pushing lynches (damdred -> LS, Trfel -> MD and Shining -> Trfel??). Can you all summarize your points in a short case. It makes it so much easier for everyone involved if people actually build cases.

I'd be building one if I had one (I tried to summarize my concerns about shining last night). I just don't quite know what I want to do right now.
I've done so, perhaps it was too simple for you to consider it a case.

You didn't agree, and I don't think that I can change your mind, so I won't try.

Do you agree with Damdred on LS?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 02 2015 22:04 GMT
#648
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 02 2015 22:04 GMT
#649
clearly Fidei/Trfel/LS scumteam

game solved?
Computer says mafia
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:05 GMT
#650
On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore?


I do in lylo lol
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 02 2015 22:05 GMT
#651
Sure shining,

before we go down this rabbit hole where you are trying to vet me. Remember we have 56 minutes before lynch roughly and you need to comment on what i'm saying on LS. That is the most important thing right now.

Fid was a town read earlier in the day for me almost right out of the gate, his lack of activity caused him to drop for me almost out of my town reads. He still hadn't done anything when I woke up so I "voted" him as I didn't really vote in the vote thread i'm not sure you could call it that however. It was pressure to see what he would do.

His posts afterwards as I've caught up have seemed not so bad his read post I liked to some extent.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 02 2015 22:06 GMT
#652
I trying to catch up as I was in Geology Lab today T_T I reading the thread right now but I going to be heading home soon s(shrugs) attempting to catch up.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 02 2015 22:06 GMT
#653
On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore?


Well I sometimes do but I figured a mini case based on what I thought rather than a larger case that was harder to fact check in this limited time would be better.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 02 2015 22:07 GMT
#654
I'm going to watch tv for half an hour or so.

I think I'm just gonna roll with Damdred. I have no good reason to call LS town so fuck it.
Computer says mafia
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
December 02 2015 22:07 GMT
#655
I'll e back in 30 or so, please at least fact check what I said about LS and sheep me. I think hes a good shot at scum unless he pukes some town rainbows while i'm gone.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 02 2015 22:08 GMT
#656
On December 03 2015 07:03 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 07:02 Trfel wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:00 Palmar wrote:
Btw, the people who are pushing lynches (damdred -> LS, Trfel -> MD and Shining -> Trfel??). Can you all summarize your points in a short case. It makes it so much easier for everyone involved if people actually build cases.

I'd be building one if I had one (I tried to summarize my concerns about shining last night). I just don't quite know what I want to do right now.
I've done so, perhaps it was too simple for you to consider it a case.

You didn't agree, and I don't think that I can change your mind, so I won't try.

Do you agree with Damdred on LS?
No, I don't.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
December 02 2015 22:09 GMT
#657
On December 03 2015 07:05 Damdred wrote:
Sure shining,

before we go down this rabbit hole where you are trying to vet me. Remember we have 56 minutes before lynch roughly and you need to comment on what i'm saying on LS. That is the most important thing right now.

Fid was a town read earlier in the day for me almost right out of the gate, his lack of activity caused him to drop for me almost out of my town reads. He still hadn't done anything when I woke up so I "voted" him as I didn't really vote in the vote thread i'm not sure you could call it that however. It was pressure to see what he would do.

His posts afterwards as I've caught up have seemed not so bad his read post I liked to some extent.


I like your points on LS, to the point where i would sherp them, but I wanted clarification on the Fidei read because he was one of my scumreads and hasn't done much else except town me(pocket because I scummed him early?) And I like the question HtS just threw at him about voting MD over LS. I wanted to see if you saw a good reason to town him that I wasn't seeing, as well as making sure your progression on him made sense, which it does to me.

What do you think of HtS question to him tho?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
December 02 2015 22:10 GMT
#658
On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore?
Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this.

Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch.

I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
December 02 2015 22:11 GMT
#659
This is just a general reminder based on a couple of things I've seen in thread to try to be civil and relatively friendly with your fellow players. Let's try to make this a game where everyone had fun! I trust all of you to be adults about this.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 02 2015 22:12 GMT
#660
On December 03 2015 04:08 Fidei86 wrote:
Town
Shining - He was winning townie plaudits for his fight with Palmar, but rather than carry it on (and continuing to crap up the thread) he stopped (or at least tried to) and gave a good read post at #229. I like his read on dis, which I agree with. He asks Kush and Moosy to do more, at a stage where the better Mafia play would have been to ignore them and let town coalesce towards a "lynch all idiots" lynch. (Disclaimer: I previously called him out for not stopping the fight, but a re-read of his filter shows he was trying to stop it but Palmar wouldn't let it go.)

Trfel - Rels is right, for someone with over 3k posts Trfel sure apologises a lot. He seems to have some sort of reason for his early LS read, which I don't really care about. I actually like is read on Rels "why is he just throwing shit everywhere." Maybe town side of null. His later posts show quite nuanced reasoning. Moved to town for now, otherwise mostly everyone would be null

Dis - he and Trfel are playing similarly in my view. Both reading the thread, giving thoughts relatively fearlessly. Nothing that particularly jumps out as scummy. Lean read.

Null
Damdred - underwhelmed by his reads, which seem to mostly have been of Shining. Need to filter dive. No sense in lynching today.

Damdred - whole filter is super underwhelming. Says he has town reads, but then just gives me and Shining without and further explanation. Lacklustre but posts come off as condescending. Scum side of null but wouldn't lynch yet.

HTS - I am scared of a Mafia Dani, and that is probably colouring my read of her. One thing I'm not sure of is why she voted for DYH having just excoriated kush for his dumbass post about voting for Rels.

Palmar - his entire first act was fighting with Shining. He made his point, and I agreed with it. But he kept pushing and pushing beyond when it was reasonable. I also didn't like that he called my first post "fine" and "null" but at another point said I was a "tow read". Says he doesn't want to lynch into me, then later says I'd be an okay lynch? Huh? I had him in Mafia, but his last few reads on Damdred and

Rels - I'm all over the place on Rels. I've made the point that Mafia Rels tends to buddy harder than he is here. But in this game he seems to be talking in complete parallel to the thread, raising points others aren't but not engaging in the same sort of manner I would expect from a town Rels. But I actually really like his DYH read and vote.

Mafia

LS - his entry list was all nulls ("I need more time on Moosy" -- no shit!) and basic basic points that display no particular thought. #431 says the game is hard but hasn't really given a read on anyone? O

Useless
Kush - he is going to have to do a lot to get back from "not changing my Rels vote even though he might be town because changing votes is hard"
Moosy - only sensible post is pushing Shining on his read of me. When he'd explained it like 8 times and I'd only made one post.
DYH - Lots of town-reads and afk promises. Hardly encouraging. Was not really a fan of his Trfel read.
Onegu. It's O-word dude. Hands up if you're surprised.

OK I like that post. Especially the double Damdred =D
Some stuff, sry if you already answered in the pages I haven't read:
- what do you think of kush's most recent posts ?
- why vote a useless instead of your "mafia" ?
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