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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
Vote Count LightningStrike (4): Damdred, disformation, Palmar, Half the Sky MoosyDoosy (3): Fidei86, Trfel, kushm4sta Fidei86 (1): Rels Not Voting (5): LightningStrike, The Shining, MoosyDoosy, Onegu, DoYouHas Currently LightningStrike is set to be lynched. This Day ends at Wednesday, Dec 02 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 23:00 GMT (+00:00). Lynch Voting is done in the voting thread (here). Do not PM me your vote. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:09 The Shining wrote: I like your points on LS, to the point where i would sherp them, but I wanted clarification on the Fidei read because he was one of my scumreads and hasn't done much else except town me(pocket because I scummed him early?) And I like the question HtS just threw at him about voting MD over LS. I wanted to see if you saw a good reason to town him that I wasn't seeing, as well as making sure your progression on him made sense, which it does to me. What do you think of HtS question to him tho? I meant hasn't done much else regarding my read on him. Whereas Palmar tried to pick it apart. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
Dropping my vote on MD IDK HOME BUT I VT I DON'T TO DIE NOW. ##Vote:MooseyDoosey | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:14 LightningStrike wrote: You think that Damdred is town?Okay DAMDRED IS A FUCKING IDIOT WHY FORGOT TO READ I ME BEEN BUT HE READ ME CORRECTLY ALL BUT THE TIME HE BEEN MAFIA............. Dropping my vote on MD IDK HOME BUT I VT I DON'T TO DIE NOW. ##Vote:MooseyDoosey | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:02 Half the Sky wrote: There you are. Can you explain why you are voting Moosy when you have a pretty fleshed out read on LS? You are saying you aren't confident on LS but your points are pretty clear in your list post. Every game I've ever played in people have pushed LS D1 and he has been town. That gives me pause. And we have Moosy, who has literally made no effort whatsoever in this game - he is basically trolling us. We simply cannot take him forward in this game and hope to win. He has had two days to do something constructive, or to show a change in tone. He has not. I actually don't agree with Trfel that MD's play makes him 100% Mafia or anything else. I think it's possible he's Mafia. It's possible he's not. But in the long run, I we cannot ever successfully read someone who apparent holds this game in contempt. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:15 Trfel wrote: You think that Damdred is town? Ummmmmmmmmmmm. If I read that correctly, I think he's saying the only time Damdreds ever read him wrong is as scum. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:16 The Shining wrote: That's what I thought too, but he also called Damdred an idiot and voted for MoosyDoosy. So I'm not sure.Ummmmmmmmmmmm. If I read that correctly, I think he's saying the only time Damdreds ever read him wrong is as scum. | ||
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Rels
France13467 Posts
On December 03 2015 04:44 Trfel wrote: I'm going to bring this up again. Please, hear me out, but I DO NOT WANT TO START A MECHANICS DISCUSSION. First, I will assume that the argument that Rels presents about the BoxeR claiming is 100% correct. No matter what. No questions asked. Just for the purpose of this argument. With this assumption, and two people telling the BoxeR to claim, it's important for this argument to be made as quickly as possible so that the BoxeR can see it and not claim. The thing is, Rels presents a really well-explained argument for this. It kind of feels too good to be true. He's already stopped to analyze the setups from a mafia perspective, and see what they know, and see what town knows. He's 100% sure that mafia doesn't know which setup the game uses, despite the standard Blazinghand newbie game using a similar four-option setup where the mafia team IS told the setup. Like, I know that Rels is good. But is he really this good? His first post of the game, 37 minutes after the day began.... It doesn't feel quite right. My god. I can't rebute an accusation that finishes by "if Rels is town doing that, then he's super good". I didn't plan to post anything than "yo all good night" when Damdred posted about boxer. On December 03 2015 04:44 Trfel wrote: Side note, I remember that Half the Sky mentioned that she'd only played with kushm4sta before in Carol of the Bells. Which is wrong, since we all played in I believe Student Mafia IV (one of the Student Mafia games, before the Newbie Student mafias), and kushm4sta was in that game and actually sort of played. He was mafia, so I'm surprised that Half the Sky forgot that. But I just remembered that kushm4sta actually was in Carol of the Bells. If you have any doubt that kushm4sta is capable of playing this lazily as town, look at his play from Carol of the Bells. He had (arguably) the most important town power role in the game. A mafia player baited the role to claim, and the entire thread yelled at how stupid that request was. Didn't matter, kushm4sta didn't care and just claimed his role and died. In retrospect, it was pretty darn hilarious, but at the time it was infuriating. What did she say exactly ? | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:15 Fidei86 wrote: Every game I've ever played in people have pushed LS D1 and he has been town. That gives me pause. And we have Moosy, who has literally made no effort whatsoever in this game - he is basically trolling us. We simply cannot take him forward in this game and hope to win. He has had two days to do something constructive, or to show a change in tone. He has not. I actually don't agree with Trfel that MD's play makes him 100% Mafia or anything else. I think it's possible he's Mafia. It's possible he's not. But in the long run, I we cannot ever successfully read someone who apparent holds this game in contempt. Have you looked into the reasons as to why they are pushing LS? Do you think those reasons are town or mafia motivated? Or whether that affects your reads on the people voting him? (I think if I recall right you had Palmar and Damdred as nulls?) | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
Vote Count LightningStrike (4): Damdred, disformation, Palmar, Half the Sky MoosyDoosy (4): Fidei86, Trfel, kushm4sta, LightningStrike Fidei86 (1): Rels Not Voting (4): The Shining, MoosyDoosy, Onegu, DoYouHas Currently LightningStrike is set to be lynched. This Day ends at Wednesday, Dec 02 11:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 23:00 GMT (+00:00). Lynch Voting is done in the voting thread (here). Do not PM me your vote. Voting is mandatory. You may not abstain. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:19 Rels wrote: I wasn't scumreading Half the Sky, I was being tangential. And I was wrong, anyway My god. I can't rebute an accusation that finishes by "if Rels is town doing that, then he's super good". I didn't plan to post anything than "yo all good night" when Damdred posted about boxer. What did she say exactly ?  | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:20 The Shining wrote: That reaction seems very similar to what I would expect from LightningStrike as town. Why do you think otherwise?I'm having trouble ever remembering a time LS has reacted that way to being scummed/voted, and most of the times we've played together he was town. Except that one time he was scum. But he didn't react this way, either. Can't tell if it's an attempt to get that "genuine anger townread" that's been floating around games lately. I remember one game we played not too long ago where every time someone suspected him he accused them of being on crack. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:22 Trfel wrote: That reaction seems very similar to what I would expect from LightningStrike as town. Why do you think otherwise? I remember one game we played not too long ago where every time someone suspected him he accused them of being on crack. Yes he discredits them hard but the caps and cursing feels uncharacteristic. Unless I'm just not remembering correctly. But that somewhat recent game that I rolled scum in, he didn't go this ham. | ||
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Fidei86
United Kingdom2116 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:22 Trfel wrote: That reaction seems very similar to what I would expect from LightningStrike as town. Why do you think otherwise? I remember one game we played not too long ago where every time someone suspected him he accused them of being on crack. Okay that's just not true Trfel. I'm getting cold feet because LS usually fights his corner on somewhat sensible grounds. I've never seen a response like that before. Hmm. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
LS, what do you think of Trfel and what do you think of Damdred? Talk to us for cripe's sake if you are town, you have half an hour. Let me check Warcraft 3 since I am assuming that's the game that Shining is referring to? | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:25 Fidei86 wrote: Does accusing someone of being on crack count as fighting people on somewhat sensible grounds?Okay that's just not true Trfel. I'm getting cold feet because LS usually fights his corner on somewhat sensible grounds. I've never seen a response like that before. Hmm. If so, then I disagree. If not, I will the past game. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:25 The Shining wrote: Yes he discredits them hard but the caps and cursing feels uncharacteristic. Unless I'm just not remembering correctly. But that somewhat recent game that I rolled scum in, he didn't go this ham. I'd have to disagree, he lost his head to the point in Himalayas that Fecalfeast and I warned and took post-game action on him. It is not unprecedented. | ||
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On December 03 2015 07:25 Fidei86 wrote: Okay that's just not true Trfel. I'm getting cold feet because LS usually fights his corner on somewhat sensible grounds. I've never seen a response like that before. Hmm. You were in Himalayas and so was he, surely you remember when he lost the plot? | ||
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