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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 15 2015 14:14 GMT
#2672
On December 15 2015 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 15 2015 23:09 disformation wrote:
On December 15 2015 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 15 2015 22:56 disformation wrote:
On December 15 2015 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Very well played Shining!
Very bad played almost everyone for the DYH read. It was ugly to watch.

I also thought disinformation played really well up until some point.


probably until i was like "okay hts can be mafia. still voting dyh" or my obv bus on ff.

If i am completely honest i have no idea why you bussed FF when you could have instead lynched Trfel.
I think you guys had a better shot at winning in case you had lynched Trfel there.


yeah that was a super stupid panic thing from me.

It's okay. After all you played really well and afaik this was your first scumgame ever. Just be a bit more ballsy and try to work a bit on your interactions with your scummates and game sense (what to do in certain situations) and you'll do very well!


yeah. first open game. first scum game.
thanks. <3
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 15 2015 15:31 GMT
#2677
On December 15 2015 23:21 NocturneMage wrote:
again disformation I think you did really well especially this being your first scumgame, no coaches (despite teammate mentoring, but they have to play their own game too), I really don't think you should be ashamed of anything.


ty <3.
A bit disappointed that this bait didn't work on ya:
On December 15 2015 05:40 disformation wrote:
the clot thickens.

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 15 2015 19:07 GMT
#2678
Also: when is that teamspeak thing again? still super confused at timezone converting xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 15 2015 19:14 GMT
#2681
Hm was about to cook/eat dinner. would be available in like 1hour. =/
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 16 2015 15:07 GMT
#2688
On December 16 2015 20:58 Palmar wrote:
gg thanks for carry


you are welcome.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 16 2015 16:10 GMT
#2690
On December 17 2015 00:52 Palmar wrote:
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On December 17 2015 00:07 disformation wrote:
On December 16 2015 20:58 Palmar wrote:
gg thanks for carry


you are welcome.

wifom shots are generally bad btw. It's super tempting to do them all the time, but still.


yeah. shooting you n2 was not good.

couldnt get myself to shoot the shining later on cause i was super sure at least 1 person would throw his reads at me if i did that. =\
not sure if that would have been better/worse than fealing with him though, because i was pretty much unable to do so...

a coach would have been great for those things. but the only thing i can do now is to hope i learn from these mistakes and do better next time.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 17 2015 04:56 GMT
#2692
On December 17 2015 11:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On December 15 2015 08:10 disformation wrote:
Still don't think I'm gonna be happy when I see my next scum pm. =/

Just double bus and everything will be ok.


Well, if I was good at bussing this game would have gone much smoother.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 17 2015 14:24 GMT
#2694
On December 17 2015 22:55 Palmar wrote:
It wasn't all bad, and of course sometimes you need to shoot for wifom, but as a rule of thumb, people tend to do it too often.

The rationale is very simple. It's much easier for people to stay on target than it is to step back and reassess. People are generally very biased to their own beliefs. Let's take an example:

Disfo is mafia.
LS is town

Palmartown thinks LS is mafia
Damdredtown thinks Disfo is mafia

If you make the wifom shot (Palmar) you're hoping the following happens:

Damdred steps back, realizes he's been wrong the entire time and Palmar must have gotten shot for being right on LS. Damdred changes his mind and starts thinking LS is mafia

If you make the simple shot (Damdred) you're hoping the following happens:

Palmar keeps tunneling LS without thinking too much about the NK




In general (of course this is very situation specific), you want to bet on people being stubborn and self-righteous. It is extremely difficult to recognize when you've been wrong and reassess, it's one of the hardest things to do in mafia. I don't blame anyone for sticking to their original beliefs when in doubt.


hmm... haven't exactly looked at it from this angle. maybe because I am prone to waffle about and am ususally not that stubborn about my reads.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 17 2015 16:08 GMT
#2696
yeah, the FF thing was a panic reaction and not really thought through.
and thanks for all the post game advise guys. <3
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 18 2015 15:26 GMT
#2698
Don't worry about being "lecture-y". This was my first scum game, I managed to get some things right (on accident). But I also did a bunch of mistakes and didn't have a coach, so all your advise is very welcome.

Maybe I should have checked out some guides about playing scum, I feel I am not very aware on what conventions there are for that. xD
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