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On December 03 2015 21:49 Koshi wrote:
Onegu hasn't done shit this game. But that 1 comment on the fefe smurf was spot on. Could smell like TMI? dnu. I have no interest in guessing the alignment of 2 people who refuse to play.
I also think fefe would play better if he had a good teammate like TT/Chrom/GB/Koshi. I was pretty pissed at a possible town!fefe yesterday but in a team with scott/Onegu/OO his lackluster play makes sense.
Worst case scenario for us townies is fefe/GB/OO. If we can rule that out we got this covered till at least lylo.
Eh, maybe. But if this is afk mafia!Onegu why bother saying that so far after the fact and when FF wasn't under any real suspicion?
If we decide to lynch into the lurker pool tomorrow (which is still a good idea as we are still 1 mislynch from LyLo) I def think Scott is the lynch.
If nothing else his excuses lining up perfectly with EoD's is way too convenient.
Also why doesn't scum!Onegu at least sheep town last phase? Throwing his vote away and missing a chance to sheep confirmed town onto scum?
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On December 03 2015 23:32 ObviousOne wrote:
i fucking love lists
11. scott31337 - mafia with no apprehension
6. Onegu - mafia with slight apprehension
3. TicTock - need to read again
1. Koshi - koshi, either mafia genius or mad town scientist
4. Chromatically - less strongly but strongly feel town
9. GlowingBear - strongly feel town on this
13. sicklucker - confirmed
just writing it down so i hopefully don't forget to look at tictock again when i wake up
This is a fucking weird list man
Retracting my tentative townread on you..
You afk voted Chrom yesterday and now he's top 3 town?
You have no read on me or Koshi at all, so we end up 3rd and 4th scummiest?
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On December 04 2015 06:54 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2015 04:25 sicklucker wrote:
ok my job is done rip dont ignore the votes SL, if people take the votes into consideration you'll realise that FF voted me. So your vote count thing isn't really a thing. Also, just because FF flipped red it doesn't mean that the reason you've scum read him for was right. It's like that classis math exam where you have to choose option A or B and you use all the wrong formulas but choose the right option. Anyway, go on
None of this post makes any sense.
FF did NOT vote you GB, what you smokin? (are you sharing?)
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Also fucking sweet we got another save, that ghost team doing work. GJ guys!
D1 was town v town just like I said and now SL brings some solid proof.
Not that it changes my PoE much.
Anyways, I have major issues with OO's last list post.
##Vote: ObviuseOne
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Also the D2 votes are interesting, and there is some evidence to suggest that scum piled on Sn0 to protect OO.
As always I'm also ok lynching GB.
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EBWOP:
On December 04 2015 07:29 Tictock wrote:
Also fucking sweet we got another save, that ghost team doing work. GJ guys!
D1 was town v town just like I said and now SL brings some solid proof.
Koshi confirmed town now too, cool. Not that it changes my PoE much.
Anyways, I have major issues with OO's last list post.
##Vote: ObviuseOne
Somehow deleted the bolded line
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Something tells me this is the pace things will be at today...
Yay! Day off!
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On December 05 2015 06:18 Onegu wrote:
You guys have any acutal questions for me to try and figure out my alignment?
Do you think this lynch on Scott is good? Will he flip mafia?
Who do we lynch tomorrow if he's not mafia?
If he is mafia, who is the last person on this team Scott, FF + ???
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I think I'm leaving my vote on OO.
I know there is very little chance Scott is actually town here, but my gut isn't terribly on board this lynch for some reason.
I really this this list was terrible and makes no sense, and OO has simply ignored my questions about it since everyone is focused on the scott lynch atm.
For refference:
On December 03 2015 23:45 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2015 23:32 ObviousOne wrote:
i fucking love lists
11. scott31337 - mafia with no apprehension
6. Onegu - mafia with slight apprehension
3. TicTock - need to read again
1. Koshi - koshi, either mafia genius or mad town scientist
4. Chromatically - less strongly but strongly feel town
9. GlowingBear - strongly feel town on this
13. sicklucker - confirmed
just writing it down so i hopefully don't forget to look at tictock again when i wake up This is a fucking weird list man Retracting my tentative townread on you.. You afk voted Chrom yesterday and now he's top 3 town? You have no read on me or Koshi at all, so we end up 3rd and 4th scummiest?
I'd also like to know why OO feels so strongly about GB being town.
I know FF pushed OO on D1, but when the vote was important he voted to save OO. Besides this setup makes it pretty nice for mafia to bus, so I'm not sure that's as solid as SL made it out to be earlier.
Been rethinking the dumbtell thing too, and it's really not that hard of a move for mafia to make.
Idk maybe I'm just being silly, Scott is still a solid lynch here. This is just too easy today, and mafia should be scrambling to try and recover this game after last lynch and 2 night saves but.... nothin.
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On December 05 2015 07:38 Onegu wrote:
questions need to be more like go read this page. What do you think?
You should be thankful I didn't post my first smartass reaction about you not doing shit and then going "why aren't you guys trying to read me?"
What do you think of OO's list post I have issues with?
On December 03 2015 23:32 ObviousOne wrote:
i fucking love lists
11. scott31337 - mafia with no apprehension
6. Onegu - mafia with slight apprehension
3. TicTock - need to read again
1. Koshi - koshi, either mafia genius or mad town scientist
4. Chromatically - less strongly but strongly feel town
9. GlowingBear - strongly feel town on this
13. sicklucker - confirmed
just writing it down so i hopefully don't forget to look at tictock again when i wake up
Why do you think he's now pushing Scott over you?
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Ugh Scott does need to flip.
Onegu will never make an effort to make it easy to read him.
Mafia needs 2 mislynches and here we have, at least potentially, 2 perfect lynchbait.
FF not bothering to try might mean he's got 2 teammates he doesn't want to put in the effort to support.
It could also mean that he feels like his team is in such a position it doesn't really matter that he got lynched.
Also, less important, but remember the msgs ppl are sending after they get lynched/die are sent before Night/Day post. So no way FF was reacting to you not dying Koshi, he had no way of knowing that you'd get saved (or even who would be the NK target for that matter).
Anyways, I'm not going to be around for EoD most likely. This flip is actually fairly important unless we somehow manage another save (don't count on it).
Oh and WIFOM. This is the first day both Vengeful and Benevolant Spirits have voted... Yet we have Vengeful spirits before on D2 and otherwise no action from them. Any chance one of those votes (today) is FF?
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OO/GB/FF being a team means a ton of bussing went down.
Seems pretty unlikely, but not impossible
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Bah Scott's filter is no help, and FF was mildly defending him for the AFK stuff.
I'm being silly, we really have to lynch Scott.
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On December 06 2015 10:36 Onegu wrote:
the last page is koshi realizing that chrome is last mafia but wanting to confirm how bad he is a reading me.
Your suddenly very defensive...
Also sweet flip, sorry I was so waffely about it.
I'll be active tomorrow, today has been a fucking long day.
Pretty down to see Onegu flip, Scott flipping mafia makes it super likely the last member is Onegu. Still some chance GB or OO are mafia, I really doubt Chrom is the last mafia.
Onegu tomorrow, Prob OO after that, plenty of time for me to continue to tunnel GB.
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Eh I just skimmed stuff fairly fast here on my break.
I'll read more carefully tomorrow like I said.
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On December 06 2015 11:56 GlowingBear wrote:
The reason that it's impossible that I'm Mafia is that I wanted to vote scott (Mafia) over FF (Mafia). It doesn't make any sense to try to divert a Mafia wagon to start another one on a Mafia.
There it is. Now move on.
Still catching up, but this is BS and you know it.
Scott has been AFK all game of course you'd want to lynch him over FF and get the town cred you are now trying to take.
FF even voted Scott before he got lynched so.... Yea that vote doesn't clear you at all.
I'll admit that the little argument you and FF had over Scott shenanies is a bit odd if you two are on a team, but it's classic disassociation plays imo.
I'm still pretty sure this is not town!GB guys. OO is also pretty possible due to voting logic.
@Koshi, a lot of what you are posting about Chrom sounds like confirmation bias to me. What if FF was just sitting on the sidelines watching town!Chrom attack town!OO? It also would make sense if OO is scum, FF backed off OO as soon as he backed up that WoT he made D1 but then keeps mentioning how well Chrom is blowing OO's posts out of the water. So he's not really trying to get OO lynched but will look good if OO does flip red.
Tbh, my gut read of that situation is that the whole OO vs Chrom thing was a town V town thing that mafia was waiting to see who town sided with more.
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On December 07 2015 03:20 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2015 11:56 GlowingBear wrote:
The reason that it's impossible that I'm Mafia is that I wanted to vote scott (Mafia) over FF (Mafia). It doesn't make any sense to try to divert a Mafia wagon to start another one on a Mafia.
There it is. Now move on. Still catching up, but this is BS and you know it. Scott has been AFK all game of course you'd want to lynch him over FF and get the town cred you are now trying to take. FF even voted Scott before he got lynched so.... Yea that vote doesn't clear you at all.
Also people should recall this post. GB pretty clearly doesn't want FF to get lynched, but can't give me a reason why my vote on him is bad.
On December 02 2015 03:23 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2015 02:16 Tictock wrote:On December 02 2015 01:43 GlowingBear wrote:On December 02 2015 01:30 Tictock wrote:On December 02 2015 01:08 GlowingBear wrote:On December 02 2015 00:29 Tictock wrote:
Noting that GB has managed 2 pages of filter since D2 started.
Last real suggestion from him was a team of OO, Sn0 and Scott, and maybe BF.
Now suggests Scot kus we can "afford the mislynch"
Clearly a player who cares. Clearly you're a player "tunneled" in me but does not hesitate to vote FF instead So is it a bad vote or what? Am I faking this tunnel on you or not? Like what the hell man, your not doing jack shit. And yes, it's a horrible vote, by your POV everything should point out to me being Mafia. I don't understand. Voting FF is bad, because I should be pushing you? Yes
That exchange makes no sense from a townie perspective.
Also where did GB's read on Scott come from? Oh right it just suddenly appeared after we lynched Sn0 and were looking to be in LyLo very soon. Before that day GB had Scott as town for like no reason.
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Plus, remember how GB pushed ppl D1?
On November 25 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Cool, some weak early reads:
Koshi looks townie for his tone. Especially when he makes the post of the town pyramid and the following one.
Chrom looks townie for thinking critically about the game.
SL looks scummy for this hard push on FF on a matter that isn't really alignment indicative.
Tictock looks scummy for commenting that SL may have a point but concluding that FF's thing isn't alignment indicative. If SL does have a point then it is alignment indicative. If it isn't alignment indicative, SL doesn't have a point. Therefore you just look you're posting to look contributive while actually being fluffy and pushing the matter nowhere
Scum reads the 2 people who seem to think the FF smurf stuff was suspect.
Mafia!Scott also called GB his top Townread and sheeped him D1 even though he had earlier suggested he didn't like GB's reasoning.
Really the only thing that seems off about a GB/Scott/FF team is the exchange that FF and GB had after EoD2. I don't think it's very strong though as it's very possibly a dissacociation thing they planned for. Argue a little with your teammate over your 3rd AFK (and very likely to be lynched) partner, and suddenly the team doesn't make a lot of sense from the outside view.
Yea I think I'd very strongly consider lynching either OO or GB tomorrow.
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Rereading what I skimmed yesturday.
This is pretty ironic.
On December 06 2015 07:33 ObviousOne wrote:
somewhere within the game i'm sure there's been someone advocating more for lynching onegu than for scott, if someone remembers or finds that post it might be a good nugget.
OO, you were pushing Onegu a ton D1 and D2, and if I recall right your D1 WoT and PoE pyramid thing had Scott on a lower teir of lynches after Onegu and BF. Never really saw you consider Scott till N3.
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On December 06 2015 08:30 Koshi wrote:
Are you people braindead? There is no fucking reason in the world to vote chrom. Maybe try to give a couple reasons first before starting the paranoia train.
I can give a bunch of reasons why he isnt mafia. And a couple reasons why he can win when he is mafia. But I cant give reasons why he is mafia.
Man you did one hell of a 180 in a few hours Koshi.
Like honestly what is making you think he is mafia now? FF's filter having a hardon for his posts? Why can't that be attempts at pocketing?
Kus he was looking to do Shennanies near EoD? His posts about that were super fluid and thoughtful, and it makes good sense.
On December 06 2015 06:40 Chromatically wrote:
6 - 2 now
if no shenannies: 6 - 1 if scott mafia (2 more lynches) or 5 - 2 if scott town (MYLO)
5 - 1 if one town between them (two more lynches with Onegu already dead), 4 - 2 if two town (LYLO)
I think the chances of 2 town are basically nonexistant, so we basically just get a free extra kill on Onegu by doing this right?
On December 06 2015 06:41 Chromatically wrote:
we don't have auto if scott is mafia here, we still have to pick 2/3 OO Onegu GB to lynch, unless you're saying you're super confident in one of them being town
On December 06 2015 06:44 Chromatically wrote:
IF we lynch both Onegu and scott today though, then we do have auto because we can just lynch OO and GB
I don't see any reason not to do it, if scott doesn't ninja vote we just win and if he does we just lynch scott the next day (same as killing Onegu tomorrow)
it's not looking like there's enough people here right now though
That is town thinking things through, 100%.
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