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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 04 2015 22:51 GMT
#1121
On November 05 2015 07:47 Xatalos wrote:
Yeah, let's go with that. If SL appears worse by tomorrow, it can be turned over to Artanis anyway.

So the risk is really pretty small.

All the scum ppl dont want sl so he is a good pick.
table for two on a tv tray
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 04 2015 22:52 GMT
#1122
Swap SL with Art.
Minimal effort.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 04 2015 22:54 GMT
#1123
On November 05 2015 07:32 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:26 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:17 Rels wrote:
This game: 11 pages in almost a phase

OK I think it's pretty clear. p:


Sample size seems large enough to make this a decent observation.

Man everything you say sounds sooooo scientific. I think you do stats for a living right ?


No, but I play one on tv.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2015 22:56 GMT
#1124
On November 05 2015 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:47 Xatalos wrote:
Yeah, let's go with that. If SL appears worse by tomorrow, it can be turned over to Artanis anyway.

So the risk is really pretty small.

All the scum ppl dont want sl so he is a good pick.

I agree with her.
AND DONT IGNORE ME
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 04 2015 22:56 GMT
#1125
Xat pls
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 04 2015 22:57 GMT
#1126
I don't want to explain. Trusterino pls.
Minimal effort.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2015 22:57 GMT
#1127
On November 05 2015 07:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:32 Rels wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:26 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:17 Rels wrote:
This game: 11 pages in almost a phase

OK I think it's pretty clear. p:


Sample size seems large enough to make this a decent observation.

Man everything you say sounds sooooo scientific. I think you do stats for a living right ?


No, but I play one on tv.

What ?
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
November 04 2015 23:00 GMT
#1128
Xatalos has nominated the following team for Mission 1:

Xatalos
raynpelikoneet
sicklucker

Please PM your votes to myself and Ticktock. You may switch your vote as often as you like, until the deadline.

Deadline is in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00)
on 5 November.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 23:01 GMT
#1129
On November 05 2015 07:57 Superbia wrote:
I don't want to explain. Trusterino pls.


What was the reason?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 04 2015 23:03 GMT
#1130
This one is probably going to get rejected straight out bc there's a good chance SL will just continue to lurk. =/ Artanis would've gotten some votes.
Minimal effort.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 23:05 GMT
#1131
On November 05 2015 07:49 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:39 Xatalos wrote:
Decisions, decisions....

Gut still says SL. In any case, it's not like Artanis or Superbia are probable scum either...

Will probably go with SL and hope he appears tomorrow to do some good stuff. If not, we can just reject the team and go with Artanis anyway since he's apparently next...


Why are you hoping someone will show town instead of someone that already has?

The rationale doesn't make sense.


Just saying that his behavior has already matched town motivations rather than scum motivations. He's been kind of "doing his own thing", clearly not caring what others think of him. I hope he'll post some good stuff soon(ish) to further establish his innocence or at least not look worse. If not, he can be skipped so it's not a big deal.

As for Artanis, the difference is small, but it's mainly the way how he appeared very townish in one of my earlier games and was scum... It's hard to let go of that small doubt.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 23:06 GMT
#1132
On November 05 2015 08:03 Superbia wrote:
This one is probably going to get rejected straight out bc there's a good chance SL will just continue to lurk. =/ Artanis would've gotten some votes.


Well it's not too bad even if something like that happens. Artanis is next in line for leader anyway.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 04 2015 23:07 GMT
#1133
On November 05 2015 01:26 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 01:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I actually think the argument has gone off base so far that its depleted its usefulness and we should move onto more productive things.

Superbia, you indicated you think Kita is scum for how he read you. Is there anything else you dislike about him? What do you think about the rest of his reads?


Perhaps you are right in this argument. In any case we should probably not pursue it any further now as it will not help me evaluate Rels in any sort of way.

Kita is still up in the air at this point, he's not in my town circle. (My PoE scum list is: Rels, Shockey, Kita, Sicklucker, HtS/maybe you)
I'm mostly going off the votes here:
- There's a general feel that it is obvious most people will vote no- so scum (as having no QT) are more likely to vote with the general consensus (not sticking out etc.).
- Mafia are very likely to vote yes on a mission with a mafia. Unless the consensus is against it. Consensus takes heavy priority over everything for mafia.
- Mafia are somewhat likely to vote no on a mission with only town. They can vote yes to look good, especially early on. This can very easily go against consensus ("see, I told you the mission would pass!").
- Mafia are very likely to vote no on a mission with only town, if the situation is dire.
- Stand out vote is usually either trolly or complete confidence. I don't think shockey was/had either.

So:

If the team consisted of town, and my PoE is correct:
- Mafia is likely:
Rels, shockey, sicklucker.

If the team had a mafia, and my PoE is correct:
- Mafia is likely:
Rels, Kita, Shockey/SL.
OR
Rels, HtS (who would attempt to frame Kita), shockey/SL.

Alternate world would include both HtS and Kita but eh. Could be, but I don't think so atm. I think rayn's argument as to kita trying to influence the team a lot near deadline is good. I think the fact that none of the team-members votes for the team to pass leans towards a scum being on the team (scum votes as consensus, town votes what they believe, the fact that no one in the team believed therefore leans me more towards a scum being in the team).



;o
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 23:08 GMT
#1134
Welcome back to the living, sicklurker
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 04 2015 23:09 GMT
#1135
super likely mafia. Im positive he has no reason to scum read me he just needs an excuse not to vote the all town team
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 04 2015 23:11 GMT
#1136
like the scum read magically appears when im in a mission
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
November 04 2015 23:12 GMT
#1137
On November 05 2015 01:43 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 01:40 Xatalos wrote:
On November 05 2015 01:35 Superbia wrote:
Kind of nowhere. It's PoE. I expect town SL to be a lot more involved and active. He hasn't really done anything this game. He has done this before as town, but I can read him when he's doing shit, not when he's not. So he goes in the back of the PoE list.


Has he / do you expect he would take this attitude as scum? Isn't it actually good for him here that he plays similarly as town?

I'm also considering Artanis atm though, liked his recent posts. About you, I'm not quite so sure on.


I'm not sure what SL's scum-play is there days. I think it's usually pretty easy to read him if he's not lurking. The fact that he's not coming up with weird ass logic/strategies this game is troubling.


BUT I AM. LIKE I CAME UP WITH SOME PRETTY CRAZY SHIT
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 04 2015 23:16 GMT
#1138
On November 05 2015 08:03 Superbia wrote:
This one is probably going to get rejected straight out bc there's a good chance SL will just continue to lurk. =/ Artanis would've gotten some votes.


That was semi-what I was getting at in my last query to Xatalos. Eh...

I'm a bit settled so now I can really do some serious reading before bed...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
November 04 2015 23:17 GMT
#1139
I'm not even hard scum-reading you dumbass. You're in my PoE-scumlist
Minimal effort.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 04 2015 23:17 GMT
#1140
On November 05 2015 07:57 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:54 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:32 Rels wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:26 kitaman27 wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:17 Rels wrote:
This game: 11 pages in almost a phase

OK I think it's pretty clear. p:


Sample size seems large enough to make this a decent observation.

Man everything you say sounds sooooo scientific. I think you do stats for a living right ?


No, but I play one on tv.

What ?


+ Show Spoiler +


You got to keep up on your 80's cough syrup commercial references!
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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