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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 04 2015 22:17 GMT
#1101
On November 05 2015 07:16 Half the Sky wrote:
Just skimming I'd rec swapping SL for Artanis but I'll confirm when I do the deep diving.


EBWOP Explanation being Artanis seems town from latest round of posting and bit more confident than him than of SL. Obv need to make sure I didn't miss anything.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2015 22:20 GMT
#1102
On November 05 2015 07:16 Half the Sky wrote:
Just skimming I'd rec swapping SL for Artanis but I'll confirm when I do the deep diving.

Can't believe I agree with HTS. If deadline was right now, I wouldn't vote a team with SL, I would vote a team with Arta.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2015 22:21 GMT
#1103
rayn can you answer me now ??? No need to expand on the explanation I asked before, I'm pretty sure you're town. But PLEASE answer the thing I've asked you like 10 times
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 22:22 GMT
#1104
On November 05 2015 07:17 Rels wrote:
Xatalos' average filter length per game

1 phase = 72 hours

As town
Vanilla Mini Mafia: 40 pages Killed N3 - Average 13.3p / phase
Guilty Mini Mafia: 37 pages Survived N3 - Average 13.8p / phase
Arnie whatever Mafia: 15 pages Endgamed D1 - Average 22.5p / phase
PYP Mini: 19 pages Survived D2 - Average 11.4p / phase
I'm a cop you idiot 2: 12 pages Killed N1 - Average 12p / phase
GOT Mafia: 27 pages Endgamed N4 - Average 6.75p / phase
Nuclear Winter Mafia: 18 pages Killed N2 - Average 9p / phase
PTP IV: 10 pages Killed D3 - Average 3.75p / phase
British Empire Mini Mafia: 3 pages Lynched D1 - Average 4.5p / phase
Paranoia Mafia: number of phase not indicated
Newbie XIII: 13 pages Lynched D3 - Average 4.88p / phase

Average page / phase as town: 10.19

As mafia
Assassination mafia: 5 pages Killed N2 - Average 2.5p / phase
Carol of the bells: 14 pages Endgamed N5 - Average 2.8p / phase
Titanic: 15 pages Lynched D3 - Average 5.63p / phase
Desert: 15 pages Survived N5 - Average 3p / phase
Newbie XXVI: 2 pages Lynched D4 - Average 0.55p / phase
Newbie XV: don't wanna find out the number of phases.
A GOT mafia (not the fucking same): 3 pages Survived N5 - Average 0.6p / phase.

Average page / phase as mafia: 2.51




This game: 11 pages in almost a phase

OK I think it's pretty clear. p:


What's with the "don't wanna find out" ones or something >.>

Anyways I guess that's valid to some extent. I think it's more of a general playstyle thing than just the activity though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 04 2015 22:22 GMT
#1105
On November 05 2015 07:20 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:16 Half the Sky wrote:
Just skimming I'd rec swapping SL for Artanis but I'll confirm when I do the deep diving.

Can't believe I agree with HTS. If deadline was right now, I wouldn't vote a team with SL, I would vote a team with Arta.


What temperature is it in hell again?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2015 22:23 GMT
#1106
On November 05 2015 06:31 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Season of the Witch II
Battle of Drams

Oh jesus rels is involved in everything as mafia too x_x

How do you know I'm involved in everything as town as well ? I'm pretty sure we never played together ??
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2015 22:24 GMT
#1107
On November 05 2015 07:22 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:17 Rels wrote:
Xatalos' average filter length per game

1 phase = 72 hours

As town
Vanilla Mini Mafia: 40 pages Killed N3 - Average 13.3p / phase
Guilty Mini Mafia: 37 pages Survived N3 - Average 13.8p / phase
Arnie whatever Mafia: 15 pages Endgamed D1 - Average 22.5p / phase
PYP Mini: 19 pages Survived D2 - Average 11.4p / phase
I'm a cop you idiot 2: 12 pages Killed N1 - Average 12p / phase
GOT Mafia: 27 pages Endgamed N4 - Average 6.75p / phase
Nuclear Winter Mafia: 18 pages Killed N2 - Average 9p / phase
PTP IV: 10 pages Killed D3 - Average 3.75p / phase
British Empire Mini Mafia: 3 pages Lynched D1 - Average 4.5p / phase
Paranoia Mafia: number of phase not indicated
Newbie XIII: 13 pages Lynched D3 - Average 4.88p / phase

Average page / phase as town: 10.19

As mafia
Assassination mafia: 5 pages Killed N2 - Average 2.5p / phase
Carol of the bells: 14 pages Endgamed N5 - Average 2.8p / phase
Titanic: 15 pages Lynched D3 - Average 5.63p / phase
Desert: 15 pages Survived N5 - Average 3p / phase
Newbie XXVI: 2 pages Lynched D4 - Average 0.55p / phase
Newbie XV: don't wanna find out the number of phases.
A GOT mafia (not the fucking same): 3 pages Survived N5 - Average 0.6p / phase.

Average page / phase as mafia: 2.51




This game: 11 pages in almost a phase

OK I think it's pretty clear. p:


What's with the "don't wanna find out" ones or something >.>

Anyways I guess that's valid to some extent. I think it's more of a general playstyle thing than just the activity though.

It's when it's not indicated on the database, and I wanted to finish this quick to play some isaac then sleep. p:
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2015 22:24 GMT
#1108
On November 05 2015 07:22 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:20 Rels wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:16 Half the Sky wrote:
Just skimming I'd rec swapping SL for Artanis but I'll confirm when I do the deep diving.

Can't believe I agree with HTS. If deadline was right now, I wouldn't vote a team with SL, I would vote a team with Arta.


What temperature is it in hell again?

You tell me mate
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 22:25 GMT
#1109
Haha

I guess Artanis is looking pretty townie with his recent posts. Maybe it's a "fear read" or whatever you call it, but I just still have a slight trauma about him being the most townish-looking player in one game and ending up being scum... The I'm a cop you idiot or something game?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
November 04 2015 22:26 GMT
#1110
On November 05 2015 07:17 Rels wrote:
This game: 11 pages in almost a phase

OK I think it's pretty clear. p:


Sample size seems large enough to make this a decent observation.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2015 22:27 GMT
#1111
On November 05 2015 07:25 Xatalos wrote:
Haha

I guess Artanis is looking pretty townie with his recent posts. Maybe it's a "fear read" or whatever you call it, but I just still have a slight trauma about him being the most townish-looking player in one game and ending up being scum... The I'm a cop you idiot or something game?

Actually I didn't like his last comment implying he knew my town game. I would prefer kita me or shockey in the team.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 04 2015 22:28 GMT
#1112
I have no idea (still on mobile) who is trying to meta Xatalos but whoever is, the most efficient/effective way is how detailed vs shallow his reads are on people. Not filter length. There have been several cases made against scum Xatalos in Carol and Assassination Mafia on the quality of his reads.

I'm not saying he's scum but just saying that's how you should meta him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 22:28 GMT
#1113
On November 05 2015 07:27 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:25 Xatalos wrote:
Haha

I guess Artanis is looking pretty townie with his recent posts. Maybe it's a "fear read" or whatever you call it, but I just still have a slight trauma about him being the most townish-looking player in one game and ending up being scum... The I'm a cop you idiot or something game?

Actually I didn't like his last comment implying he knew my town game. I would prefer kita me or shockey in the team.


I'm afraid that's not happening

Did you scumread SL?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2015 22:29 GMT
#1114
On November 05 2015 07:28 Half the Sky wrote:
I have no idea (still on mobile) who is trying to meta Xatalos but whoever is, the most efficient/effective way is how detailed vs shallow his reads are on people. Not filter length. There have been several cases made against scum Xatalos in Carol and Assassination Mafia on the quality of his reads.

I'm not saying he's scum but just saying that's how you should meta him.

suuuuuuuure you don't know =D
do your own meta case if you want, mine has convinced me that guy is town
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2015 22:31 GMT
#1115
On November 05 2015 07:28 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:27 Rels wrote:
On November 05 2015 07:25 Xatalos wrote:
Haha

I guess Artanis is looking pretty townie with his recent posts. Maybe it's a "fear read" or whatever you call it, but I just still have a slight trauma about him being the most townish-looking player in one game and ending up being scum... The I'm a cop you idiot or something game?

Actually I didn't like his last comment implying he knew my town game. I would prefer kita me or shockey in the team.


I'm afraid that's not happening

Did you scumread SL?

No. But I don't understand the "oh that guy is not caring about the game, HERE IS SOME FREE TOWNREADS" trend. I'm pretty sure he's the lowest filter in the game, and I can't remember what he has done except liking my case on HTS and pushing shockey a little.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2015 22:32 GMT
#1116
On November 05 2015 07:26 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2015 07:17 Rels wrote:
This game: 11 pages in almost a phase

OK I think it's pretty clear. p:


Sample size seems large enough to make this a decent observation.

Man everything you say sounds sooooo scientific. I think you do stats for a living right ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
November 04 2015 22:35 GMT
#1117
Xata I wanted to check something else on you but since you're town ... it's settled. Do what you want with the team; I will vote no if you put SL with you and rayn, unless he becomes super townie in the next 24 hours.
Isaac then sleep folks, good night (=
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 22:39 GMT
#1118
Decisions, decisions....

Gut still says SL. In any case, it's not like Artanis or Superbia are probable scum either...

Will probably go with SL and hope he appears tomorrow to do some good stuff. If not, we can just reject the team and go with Artanis anyway since he's apparently next...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
November 04 2015 22:47 GMT
#1119
Yeah, let's go with that. If SL appears worse by tomorrow, it can be turned over to Artanis anyway.

So the risk is really pretty small.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
November 04 2015 22:49 GMT
#1120
On November 05 2015 07:39 Xatalos wrote:
Decisions, decisions....

Gut still says SL. In any case, it's not like Artanis or Superbia are probable scum either...

Will probably go with SL and hope he appears tomorrow to do some good stuff. If not, we can just reject the team and go with Artanis anyway since he's apparently next...


Why are you hoping someone will show town instead of someone that already has?

The rationale doesn't make sense.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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