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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Might not post much, but i am following the game anyways. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 05 2015 03:34 Xatalos wrote: What do you mean that I didn't have any real reads and that my explanation wasn't "genuine"? At the time, I think you just said "I guess we have different views on the word 'engaged' then" or something.... Scum reads, not reads in general. They were all town reads at the time. As for the engaged stuff I think I explained how he hadn't interacted with hardly anyone at all at that point, unless you are asking something different? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 05 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: If HtS is mafia it comes down to this: Yeah I guess it's another one of those "if player x is spy, this explains things" rather than "this happened, therefore player x is probably spy". | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 05 2015 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't have much to say to your big post kita. I just disagree. I suggest you go read Rels' scumgames to see what he is capable of: Season of the Witch II[/ur] Battle of Drams Basically the cases he makes look "good" but they are boring. lol, i can't explain that better. Like here Superbia and to some extent HtS are like furious and spit flames everywhere (like BM in SotW game) when getting into argument with Rels. Rels is just.. boring, and the reasoning is boring. And he makes conclusions that don't make any sense, at all. Okay I'll take a look. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On November 05 2015 04:36 kitaman27 wrote: Scum reads, not reads in general. They were all town reads at the time. As for the engaged stuff I think I explained how he hadn't interacted with hardly anyone at all at that point, unless you are asking something different? Not all. I did scumread you, for example, and shockeyy/Rels were pushing into scum territory. Whereas you didn't even have a single scumread (or a non-vague read in general) if I remember correctly  So your argument is very... hypocritical, to say the least.I did admit that Superbia wasn't as engaged back then as I had thought earlier, and that most of his posts being directed at me may have blinded me a bit. Besides I was mostly talking about the quantity of his engagement, not how many people it was directed to. In any case, your "case" is just nitpicking at this point. If you looked at my meta, you'd see that I'm pretty clearly town already. What you've brought is pretty much either misrepresented or not indicative of anything, such as me being wrong on some small detail... | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
WTF 30 pages as scum >.> | ||
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Xatalos
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ShoCkeyy
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On November 05 2015 04:45 kitaman27 wrote: Yeah I guess it's another one of those "if player x is spy, this explains things" rather than "this happened, therefore player x is probably spy". No it isnt. It is another instance where i elaborate to "this action has no scum motive" with "here is the scum motive". i dont like when i am asked about something - or been given non-logical arguments - and answer them, people turn them around and say something irrelevant instead of agreeing/disagreeing with what i ACTUALLY say... | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 05 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: No it isnt. It is another instance where i elaborate to "this action has no scum motive" with "here is the scum motive". i dont like when i am asked about something - or been given non-logical arguments - and answer them, people turn them around and say something irrelevant instead of agreeing/disagreeing with what i ACTUALLY say... Already disagreed here. On November 05 2015 03:23 kitaman27 wrote: From a spy HTS position, I think her priority would be to get a team that passes. The suggestion that it would be easier to blame a failed mission on myself than xatalos seems less important than finding a team that passes so you can ensure that there isn't a mission 1-2-3 combo. In my opinion, HTS-Xat-rayn seemed more likely to pass at the time. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 05 2015 02:11 ShoCkeyy wrote: I also don't need to place myself on my own team if I'm confident on who is town. Back to work. The problem that I have here is that you said you would pass every combination except the xat + rayn combo. rayn really seems to be the player you were most suspicious of on day one, yet you sent it through. Also, don't get discouraged by everyone scum reading you if you are indeed town. People are going to reject pretty much anything you say if the hive mind is against you. Just keep trucking and maybe it will help sometime down the road  | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On November 05 2015 05:26 kitaman27 wrote: The problem that I have here is that you said you would pass every combination except the xat + rayn combo. rayn really seems to be the player you were most suspicious of on day one, yet you sent it through. Also, don't get discouraged by everyone scum reading you if you are indeed town. People are going to reject pretty much anything you say if the hive mind is against you. Just keep trucking and maybe it will help sometime down the road The reason I passed it was because if a sabotage happened on the first mission, then that can just fuel the suspicion even more and more people would start to see what I'm talking about. Also, Idc if people scum read me, I've been playing TL Mafia since the mafia forums first opened ;p | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 05 2015 04:53 Xatalos wrote: Not all. I did scumread you, for example, and shockeyy/Rels were pushing into scum territory. I don't remember finding anything on shockeyy and Rels you had a townie sounding null at the time. I acknowledge that it changed later on. On November 05 2015 04:53 Xatalos wrote: I did admit that Superbia wasn't as engaged back then as I had thought earlier, and that most of his posts being directed at me may have blinded me a bit. Besides I was mostly talking about the quantity of his engagement, not how many people it was directed to. Noted. On November 05 2015 04:53 Xatalos wrote: If you looked at my meta, you'd see that I'm pretty clearly town already. What you've brought is pretty much either misrepresented or not indicative of anything, such as me being wrong on some small detail... Whenever possible I try to avoid meta arguments because it relies on that player not being aware of their town tendencies. Otherwise you could simply emulate them as mafia. Here you certainly are aware because you suggest that your meta makes you clearly town. It wouldn't be fair to assume that you're terrible at mafia. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 05 2015 05:32 ShoCkeyy wrote: The reason I passed it was because if a sabotage happened on the first mission, then that can just fuel the suspicion even more and more people would start to see what I'm talking about. Also, Idc if people scum read me, I've been playing TL Mafia since the mafia forums first opened ;p Maybe you explained this and I just didn't interpret it correctly, but you could explain one more time why you would have voted this way: hts/kita/rayn = pass hts/kita/xat = pass hts/rayn/xat = fail | ||
Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On November 05 2015 02:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Well to be fair, Superbia, at which point you started townreading Xatalos? I assume you are townreading him now, right? Upwards slope after I started flipping on him. I feel his logic has been super consistent this game. Especially on me. Like it's been logical but still wary. Feels very natural. | ||
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Superbia
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On November 05 2015 05:32 ShoCkeyy wrote: The reason I passed it was because if a sabotage happened on the first mission, then that can just fuel the suspicion even more and more people would start to see what I'm talking about. Also, Idc if people scum read me, I've been playing TL Mafia since the mafia forums first opened ;p I am a bit confused. Am i mafia or am i not mafia? Is xatalos mafia or is he not mafia? If yes. Why? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On November 05 2015 05:46 Superbia wrote: Upwards slope after I started flipping on him. I feel his logic has been super consistent this game. Especially on me. Like it's been logical but still wary. Feels very natural. I'd like to hear a page number or poat or something where null gets upgraded to town. | ||
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Superbia
Netherlands8889 Posts
On November 05 2015 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'd like to hear a page number or poat or something where null gets upgraded to town. poat? | ||
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Superbia
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