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NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 21:21:45
November 23 2015 21:17 GMT
#1897
On November 24 2015 06:06 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 06:04 NocturneMage wrote:
One thing I'd like to ask from more experienced players is vote analysis. That shit still confuses me mostly and any post on it I feel like I have to play 20+ games to really understand how to analyse town and mafia actions from votes.

Like I only knew that late votes = bussing was from experience in newbie 13. My only prior mafia experience was real life and everyone just throws their hands up all at once.

But trying to lay out the votes this game I will say is much much easier with the tracker but even then it's hard to tell timing motivations, even with Shining's statements on number of switches, I would have never picked up on ritoky's switching as a bad thing.

are there any guides or anything to try and pick up voting analysis? it seems so effective but so difficult to understand. fuck.
It requires a ton of context. Just looking at the vote count isn't good enough, you have to consider the vote count and the thread sentiment at the time when the votes in question were made.

Once you do that, it's actually really simple. You just look at the motivation and the implications of each vote, how the wagons are changing, and what the result of that is.

Or you can ask ritoky, he has some really special voting analysis tricks, but I doubt he's willing to share XD


nah, I get it. I'd like one more game where I can get coaching on voting analysis specifically even if I am an open player. either that or a guide or something but at least this gives me a rough start.

I think for the most part I looked town enough to not get lynched, it seems like people would have just fear/tinfoil lynched me in mylo, and I felt I have made good points and read carefully all game. so that was somewhat concerning.

at least if nothing else reading mafia qt, you people were threatened by me to the point you almost shot me night 1 over moosy. so I think I did something right.

and for the people tinfoiling me as scum (lol Fecalfeast) I don't know what to say. my first game I read HTS's scum games when I was drawn as scum, but that didn't help me any, I think I just need more experience, but then again she has a different approach to playing scum than I do.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 23 2015 21:23 GMT
#1903
final thing I'll comment on was the ridiculous and excessive use of meta by a lot of players. It made it very difficult to read and understand certain points on different players day 1.

I really don't know what to say, I am just very hesitant to trust meta reads on players I don't know from players I don't know and that just makes it very difficult to tell people's intentions. and I have been taught certain types of meta is faked (like Trfel's tone this game) or broken. so getting around that? that's hard for me being new around here.

that said, if anyone has any pointers for me, let me know.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 23 2015 22:25 GMT
#1929
I won't really comment on the mod decisions as I don't really have the experience to do so. but I will say thanks to Tictock and LoneMeow for taking the time to run this.

I have a question separately for MoosyDoosy - why did you think I was mafia?
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 23 2015 22:27 GMT
#1931
On November 24 2015 07:23 disformation wrote:
Was there an obs qt? can i haz link?


it was posted at the very bottom of the concession post.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-23 22:41:21
November 23 2015 22:39 GMT
#1938
On November 24 2015 07:34 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2015 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Nah you had me hook line and sinker I wouldn't have voted you there if I was awake rit


you were my plan for mylo whether i regretted it or not; since disfo decided randomly half way through the game he not longer wanted to be in my pocket.


you also wanted to save me for mylo from your posts which is why I was heavily suspicious of you.

honest question, was that setup argument you were making straight up BS or is it something you would have pushed as town? that shit is honestly over my head. and from your posts you wanted to push me over disformation.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
NocturneMage
Profile Joined July 2015
United Kingdom1965 Posts
November 23 2015 23:37 GMT
#1945
cheers and much appreciated on the explanations ritoky.
Vlad for life. SKT supporter. I policy lynch all dota players, end of.
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