Student Mafia XVI

On October 16 2015 17:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I'm always willing to help

On October 16 2015 17:20 disformation wrote:
hm. waffling about joining this. slept like 3 hours tonight, so I am having a bit of a hard time computing if I'll have enough time.

On October 16 2015 19:16 disformation wrote:


Master thesis. Handed in the actual thesis earlier, but I have to present and defend that stuff on the 26th. So not free like the wind yet, but a lot more free time than while writing the thesis. Last few weeks were kinda horrible, would not recommend. xD

On October 18 2015 05:33 The Shining wrote:


I think this is your first, or one of, your first games here, right? Unfortunately that's how TL works sometimes. People like to start the game off silly and carefree until a good majority of the players show up and get down and dirty

On October 18 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote:


K i might want to lynch you. I am the shiny town here, good sir, why do you want to be like me? Because you are scum!

On October 18 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
There is no such thing as "deciding a meta". You play to win and that's all.

Von-guy, what do you think of Moosy here?

On October 16 2015 21:50 GlowingBear wrote:


Well, I didn't catch up the thread at that time since I was studying and doing an exam yesterday. I was going to catch up today lol
Koshi had a similar behaviour. That's why I said "Koshi tomorrow". He even ranted on people for having lynched her lol.

The fact that she was playing differently doesn't mean she wouldn't be mafia here. I usually play differently every couple of games regardless of alignment.

This time, for instance, I played a very straight forward game, and I don't usually do that as town.

On October 18 2015 20:12 sicklucker wrote:
hi rels!

On October 18 2015 07:35 scott31337 wrote:


Just was making sure - Thank you.

On October 18 2015 06:33 scott31337 wrote:


And a shit early vote.

Now he's spamming up the thread.

I'm not caring for this play so far.

On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:


Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old.

On October 18 2015 08:50 The Shining wrote:
Because I'm bored and no one is doing anything and half the game hasn't shown up. And I've been known to take things super seriously so I'm trying to break out of that and be lax this game.

So are you scum? Because that sounds like TMI. How would you know that it's actual townies that are doing the shitposting and causing chaos?

On October 18 2015 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:
(1)Farah looks townie for her posts. She is objective and her opening is straight forward to the point, asking "what is a bus" when she saw something she couldn't understand in thread. A little bit of WIFOM argument: I don't think she would ask what is it directly to the thread, but in the scum QT. As a first-timer, I would expect that she would be a little cautious before posting things in thread and be agressively scumhunting if she was scum.

The only thing that is making me wary of her is that she is not trying to see players coming through all perspectives even when I inquired her to do so. Being that aggressive and tunneled already in the beginning of the game isn't townie, and it's very rare on townie first-timers.

(2)The Shining's opening is horrendous IMO. It felt forced and tried to hard to give us the idea that he is town. The "someone be obvscum" thing isn't convincing. I don't like it. Also, these posts doesn't add up: + Show Spoiler +

If the TL meta UNFORTUNATELY have the joke phase, why participating in it? I mean, if you don't like it, why estimulate it? It doesn't make sense to me.

This post is very okay, tho:
+ Show Spoiler +

(3)MoosyDoosy is being stupid, which isn't alignment indicative for him. But this post isn't good: + Show Spoiler + ... It's just a fluffy post that doesn't make sense. I can't understand what he means with "choosing a meta". There is no "choosing", you play the way you think is better or funnier, and your meta will be a consequence of it. Why is moosy considering "not caring for the game"? Again, it's just a post where he says nothing, and I don't like it. He answered me but I don't think it was satisfying.

(4)KelsierSC can't do this as town:



Kelsier is a very logical player, saying something this bad as town isn't his fashion.

(5)Vonthin, I wasn't liking this guy too much. Especially because he said this:



(i) he opened the game by saying town should not care to survive and go scum hunting, but then (ii) he does nothing in order to scumhunt and (iii) participates in the jokes just to say this.
Reading this post in a vacuum, however, conveys town vibes it really seems he is struggling with the terrible start. I'm not sure what to think.

---

That's all I have for now.

So, basically, Farah townlean, Kelsier scumlean, others null-ish.

I'd like people to talk about things I've brought here.

On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?

On October 18 2015 14:12 sicklucker wrote:


I feel like thats just following the bad newbie thread sentiment

On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:


The joke phase between the three of you was so incredibly unfunny and I would have happily lynched all of you, upon reflection there was probably one mafia trying way too hard. Moosy was just spamming complete nonsense it made me want to give up reading. That was my interpretation of the events up to that point.

GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.

His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above.
The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB.
I want to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.

On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB.

On October 18 2015 21:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Rels, having a plan in a game and having a meta are two completely different things...

"Playing a straight forward game" =\= "I'm going to emulate other player's meta"

The way you came to the thread is exactly the same as your last scum game. You might be mafia again

On October 18 2015 21:43 LoneMeow wrote:


Care to expand your reasoning on scott31337?

On October 18 2015 20:28 Rels wrote:

REALLY BRO ? YOU REMARKED HE WAS JOKING AND YOU WERE JUST MAKING SURE ??? THAT S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT READING YOUR POSTS. NOT.

On October 18 2015 21:45 KelsierSC wrote:


when did I say GB was town

On October 18 2015 20:59 Rels wrote:

KSC: Please expand.

On October 18 2015 23:01 KelsierSC wrote:


ok, bro

you confused interesting with stupid. If you actually read my latest posts I wouldn't have to rehash.

On October 18 2015 21:51 KelsierSC wrote:
most of the list was null and based off of a "joke phase" you have people with "horrendous openings etc." and that makes them null but I "have to be scum" because I pointed out how terrible the opening of the game was.

On October 19 2015 02:44 KelsierSC wrote:


well just to speed things up for you or jog your memory.
you asked him this. along with a lot of other stuff you typed.



In his response he gave a big list of everyone as promised.



Most of this disagrees with your reads.

So asking for someones opinion on the entire game, having them disagree with you, call you scum.

I think "null someone said something" is a lame response. Unless you just asked the question without caring for the response

On October 19 2015 02:57 KelsierSC wrote:


oh right i just didn't see his name.

My issue is you asked him a pretty big question, literally "what is your opinion on everyone so far" clearly because you want to develop a read on the guy. Then he makes his big list post, which totally disagrees with a lot of your reads, calls you scum in it.
And rather than actually follow up or make any specific noise , i have to ask you about him and you respond just like "yeh he's null i guess but some guy said something else i should check"

for someone who is so keen on "getting a town circle" and how important that is to you it doesn't fit at all and to me it looks like you were just spamming to spam and not actually caring.

On October 19 2015 03:21 scott31337 wrote:


I am unsure which part you mean so I'll break it all down. I wanted Moosy to explain his vote on GB, and he did so. I know all about the shit double bus very well.

On October 19 2015 04:53 The Shining wrote:
Honestly, outside of Rels admittedly good points RE: Scott, I don't really like his catch up posts. He starts off picking on my entrance(just like GB did) and then goes on to say GB might be Mafia. If so, why did he have the same train of thought as him? Then he asks SL for his thoughts on GB, meaning he wants to try and flesh out his scumread of GB. Then he picks on another of my posts which is whatever because I know I always play weird D1s but considering I was looking for Vonthins reaction to that post, I don't like him painting a narrative of me being in a scum mentality. Especially since we rolled scum together recently and he should know that isn't my style.

Then he follows up with GB is probably town for his tryhard post. After saying he might be Mafia, and trying to flesh it out with SL, he says he is town off of one post and leaves it alone. Even goes so far as to make a lynch list including myself on it and throws GB on the town list, then asks GB what he thinks of SL? Why is he trying to throw these two against each other instead of asking anyone else? And he completely abandoned his scumread on GB to accept him as town with no interaction, just a post he saw.

On October 19 2015 05:53 KelsierSC wrote:


he asked SL about GB because he had just scumread GB and SL showed up to the thread.

then time passes I guess, he town reads GB for that post.

Then he asks him about SL...i don't know why, maybe he wants to ask his townread for an opinion.

On October 19 2015 06:14 Eversince wrote:

Implied question

Forced rage for getting a response.


Rehashed to get mad because Moosy thought an implied question wasn’t a question? What is gained from it?


Asked question. Moosy answered. Obviously it wasn’t good enough for him but whatever, lets skip that for now.


Big post saying everything he’s already said again. We get it, you don’t like Moosy’s response, does that make Moosy mafia or not? Why or why not? Should be the next post. I’m pretty sure you should have accomplished the idea that your proddin’ at him isn’t getting you more. So the logical step is to think about if he has malicious motives for not disclosing it to you. Simple.


Crap, he says the same thing again instead!


Pointless post. Someone in the game. Obviously. Why make this post? You were prodding on scott before this if I remember correctly. Why not follow that here instead of asking about me?(if I am confusing Kelsier for another person here ignore the bit about talkin’ to scott.)

So this next post really has to be a conclusion on if Moosy is scum for not spillin’ the marbles right??!


What?! It’s not?! Instead we just get a rehashing of the same stuff again. Yeh friend, we got it, you don’t like his response!
Surely this next post will be it!


Rehashed like four times and you still don’t “have his story down”? Are you being for real right now?


Random prod that he already knows he’s not going to get more information from.


What?! All this and you don’t even give us the juicy part where you develop a read on him?


Oh wait! There’s more, almost like he wants to drag this out for as long as possible for no reason or somethin’!



What new is said in this post over the last 1600 of them? Same words, but at least he’ll be polite and wait. Even though he’s actually just being passive aggressive.


Reiterates Farah point. Pointless game advice. We do happen to have coaches this game for giving that.

This is just too much.

[b]##vote: KelsierSC

On October 19 2015 17:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
##vote vonthin

His filter is the worst out of all the filters.

Runners up:
scotty
Lonemeow
Eversince


I'd like you to elaborate on what makes this post so bad that KDC is scum for it please

On October 19 2015 03:02 KelsierSC wrote:


you splurge pretty much everything else.

So just to have your story down, you asked a guy to give his entire list of reads, when he did and they didn't line up with anything you had, rather than say anything you just moved on, said "eh he's null i guess I will check out what that other guy said"

On October 19 2015 03:03 KelsierSC wrote:


so why ask him to give an entire list of reads if you aren't going to bother looking through it?

On October 19 2015 02:45 MoosyDoosy wrote:
which is why exactly he's a null. i gave him a town lean earlier and now he's a null. ??

On October 19 2015 03:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
-sigh-

I'm playing games right now kSC thank you very much. I already said I'm going to look at Vonthin LATER but not right now thank you very much. Unless you want me to dive into TL and drop what I'm doing at your command?

On October 19 2015 19:59 boxerfred wrote:
Moosy/scott interaction is also interesting because of this:



I don't think this is a scum interaction. Moosy pushes me, scott nullifies that plus points out negative things in moosy's playstyle. So I don't think at all they are mafia together. Scott keeps it up:



Pressure, questions, and then he drops it:



And now he disappears. I mean I can see the things on scott but I can't imagine scum scott and scum moosy interacting in that way that early in the game, it just doesn't make sense. So I'd say we have scum in between moosy/scott but I wouldn't say both are scum. I townread kels and I clearly townread rels from what I see so i'm glad to help on that wagon.

##unvote ##vote scott12345

On October 19 2015 20:13 boxerfred wrote:


I think that's a soft defense or at least that's what I took it for. Also I'm not sure if that was a joke vote. Can be scum casting his vote at first opportunity before he gets nailed on a late wagon or something. I think that interaction is completely nuts if both are scum. Why would scum ever play this way? And I don't think md/scott are players that orchestrate such stuff in their qt.

On October 19 2015 22:08 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Like I've already explained why I responded the way I did. I didn't read the thread properly so didn't want to give a proper answer before I evaluated things but Kels was a bum and kept pressing me to go into what I was doing in real life to explain why I wasn't re-evaluating things. That's basically it lol.

On October 19 2015 22:22 sicklucker wrote:
ok on a reread maybe my eversince town read was a little early (that huge post I didnt read got me) but here was my thought. Everypost shes just picking a fight and getting into it. Most people dont do this as mafia they try to stand back and make friends. Some people dont do this like me but those people are more rare.

On October 19 2015 22:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
sigh ofc Rels comes in and thinks he caught scum.

On October 19 2015 22:34 sicklucker wrote:
how anyone can scum read scott off his 3 posts is mind blogging

On October 18 2015 20:28 Rels wrote:

REALLY BRO ? YOU REMARKED HE WAS JOKING AND YOU WERE JUST MAKING SURE ??? THAT S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT READING YOUR POSTS. NOT.

On October 19 2015 17:39 Rels wrote:

Loving how scott completely missed the accusation against him, which is him saying "just making sure - thank you" when he didn't show he thought the vote was a joke in the first place. Probably scum.
##Vote scott31337

On October 19 2015 22:42 sicklucker wrote:
well he didnt post that much but he had no fluff posts and he certainly didnt open like that. his opening was heavilty coached either by scum or town i have no idea. No one free flow posts like that

On October 19 2015 22:44 sicklucker wrote:
like he starts with scott "easy town read"

then he follows up on the next guy "not much to read on" like you could have used that on scott lol. Then he just lists the two easy people as scum

On October 19 2015 23:20 LoneMeow wrote:


Before we go any further into this, I want to know:
a) Have you read the entire thread or just skimmed some parts?
b) What's your read on Rels and why?

On October 19 2015 23:45 LoneMeow wrote:


I skimmed some MoosyDoosy's posts, for some reason they give me a headache.

On October 19 2015 23:45 LoneMeow wrote:
And I read you as fairly strong town lean. I like the posts where you refuted Eversince's case on KelsierSC and the points on the MoosyDoosy/Vonthin affair.

I'm not sure I agree on MoosyDoosy being scum though, there are some posts that seem fairly emotional in a way that I think would be hard to emulate as scum. For example this:




What do you make of boxerfred's switch from me to scott31337?

On October 20 2015 01:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:

smh I said I skimmed it and it struck an odd chord so I dropped him and resolved to look into it later. good job at reading comprehension for the tenth game Rels.

On October 20 2015 01:07 LoneMeow wrote:


I started writing it before I had finished but posted it after.

On October 19 2015 23:20 LoneMeow wrote:


Before we go any further into this, I want to know:
a) Have you read the entire thread or just skimmed some parts?
b) What's your read on Rels and why?

On October 19 2015 19:59 boxerfred wrote:
Moosy/scott interaction is also interesting because of this:



I don't think this is a scum interaction. Moosy pushes me, scott nullifies that plus points out negative things in moosy's playstyle. So I don't think at all they are mafia together. Scott keeps it up:



Pressure, questions, and then he drops it:



And now he disappears. I mean I can see the things on scott but I can't imagine scum scott and scum moosy interacting in that way that early in the game, it just doesn't make sense. So I'd say we have scum in between moosy/scott but I wouldn't say both are scum. I townread kels and I clearly townread rels from what I see so i'm glad to help on that wagon.

##unvote ##vote scott12345

On October 20 2015 01:07 LoneMeow wrote:


To me the switch seemed kind of opportunistic, like he was trying to push me and then just jumped to someone else when that didn't stick. Note how all the reasons he uses to call scott31337 scum are already out when he makes his case on me - so it frankly doesn't make sense to me that he'd case me first, then just jump off like that.

On October 20 2015 01:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:
If you had read the thread, I did read the post and gave thoughts. But reading comprehension for the 10th game Rels. gj

On October 19 2015 03:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Yes it does. I have had strong scum reads in the past just like now and you saying otherwise doesn't change that fact.

I checked back on Vonthin and he's still a null. I mainly want his thoughts on what Rels said about scott. I also remembered the thing that people brought up about him but he also answered that somewhat. mmm...not much to go on so far.

On October 20 2015 01:23 LoneMeow wrote:


Do note that I asked him why which was what I was mostly interested in.

On October 20 2015 01:23 LoneMeow wrote:


Re-evaluating would be fine, but I just don't see anything in the posts that hints at that; I'd expect a re-evaluating townie to at least note something like "X is still scum but Y looks even worse" when switching from the guy he cased to someone else.

I suppose the trap is no longer going to work anyway, so yes, the horribleness of the case was why I originally started suspecting him. I was trying to trap him on you having essentially done the same thing he based his case on me yet calling you town and me scum.

On October 20 2015 01:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I was going through your filter but got angry over how you're making a big deal over expectations of me so I stopped reading. So no, I didn't really get to the part on sicklucker. So he's null as usual.

On October 20 2015 01:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
And what I post gets glossed over at least respond to it

On October 19 2015 22:34 sicklucker wrote:
how anyone can scum read scott off his 3 posts is mind blogging, Does he have a history of a history of not playing as scum? because I know he often never posts as town. I could very well lynch him because I have alot of other town reads but its a pretty random one.

Vonthin on the other hand might be scum alot more of the time. He has more posts that are mostly filler except his weak list post. unlike scott He might have a history of making alot of posts as town (he only has 6) somoone should look into that.

6 posts and 4 of them are filler

On October 19 2015 22:42 sicklucker wrote:
well he didnt post that much but he had no fluff posts and he certainly didnt open like that. his opening was heavilty coached either by scum or town i have no idea. No one free flow posts like that

On October 19 2015 22:39 Rels wrote:
SL, why is Vonthin's list weak ?

On October 19 2015 22:43 sicklucker wrote:
well his top read is scott

On October 19 2015 22:44 sicklucker wrote:
like he starts with scott "easy town read"

then he follows up on the next guy "not much to read on" like you could have used that on scott lol. Then he just lists the two easy people as scum

On October 19 2015 22:47 Rels wrote:

mm OK. I know as scum I had a hard time listing multiple people as potential scum, as I didn't want them to suspect me. So I'm thinking a newbie scum wouldn't list 3 people as scum in his first serious post. Maybe I'm underestimating him though.

On October 20 2015 01:47 FarahBlackwing wrote:
You would rather lynch a useless person and waste a lynch when I've given you a really solid case?

Even I know shining won't be back till Tuesday at earliest

On October 20 2015 01:56 KelsierSC wrote:


I think shining's ok tbh. if emotion when being scumread is his town tell then he seems pretty emotional replying to ES. Plus with his questions and posting overall, he doesn't seem malicious.

On October 19 2015 04:53 The Shining wrote:
Honestly, outside of Rels admittedly good points RE: Scott, I don't really like his catch up posts. He starts off picking on my entrance(just like GB did) and then goes on to say GB might be Mafia. If so, why did he have the same train of thought as him? Then he asks SL for his thoughts on GB, meaning he wants to try and flesh out his scumread of GB. Then he picks on another of my posts which is whatever because I know I always play weird D1s but considering I was looking for Vonthins reaction to that post, I don't like him painting a narrative of me being in a scum mentality. Especially since we rolled scum together recently and he should know that isn't my style.

Then he follows up with GB is probably town for his tryhard post. After saying he might be Mafia, and trying to flesh it out with SL, he says he is town off of one post and leaves it alone. Even goes so far as to make a lynch list including myself on it and throws GB on the town list, then asks GB what he thinks of SL? Why is he trying to throw these two against each other instead of asking anyone else? And he completely abandoned his scumread on GB to accept him as town with no interaction, just a post he saw.

On October 20 2015 01:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean, I'll sheep whatever you guys want tbh. For D1 at least.

On October 20 2015 01:48 Vonthin wrote:


Almost done reading the thread and everyones filter while writing up my reads on everyone

On October 20 2015 02:03 Vonthin wrote:
My thoughts on everyone now that I've read their filters.

Moosy- Slight scum read, I didn't like his opening spam shitpost crap, and some of the reason Rels brought up after I made my post the other night. He has some posts though where I can see town motivation but the useless posts outweigh them for me.


LoneMeow- I think he is town, I see clear motivation behind the things he is doing trying to get reads on people.


Sicklurker-Leaning slight scum on him, lots of fluff in his filter, I don't understand his Lonemeow vote, I don't see anything to go on besides him not posting a lot to make him scum.



Never said lol ez town read or that he was my top read just because I typed his read first in the list., He was just under my list for people who I thought were town for the time. I liked the posts he made and he had no fluff. My strongest town read at the time I made that list was GB. He seemed to made his opinions of me without reading my posts then read them and changed them after someone called him out on his and read them.


GB- Still town, I don't see any scum motivation behind his posts.


Boxer-- Null still, I understand his reasoning behind his cases but I don't agree with most of them. Has some fluff here and there and his posts/opinions vary so I don't really understand him.


Scott-Besides not posting a lot, his posts still read town to me. I understand lynching for inactivity though.


Rels- I think he is town, I like most of his posts up un till his recent ones with his case against Lonemeow which I think is a pretty weak case for day1.


Farah--Town, Clear town motivation behind her posts, no fluff. Her case against Ever is clear and thought out and makes sense.


Ever-- The big thing that leaps out to me in his filter is the big post with all the quote about his case against KSC, was a big jumbled mess and a somewhat weak case. His thoughts are all over the place in the start but It could just be him being new and reacting to the posts he sees.


Shining- I think he is town, I like his posts and arguments, has some things I don't like but the things I like outweigh the ones I don't.


KSC - He started off looking scum to me but he started to look town since the last day. I like his reads and questions since he stopped posting fluff and being so negative at the start


Fecal- Seems scummy, posts seem half assed which shit reads that doesn't give any explanations. Not enough to go on for a Day 1 lynch.


Would Lynch: Lurker, Ever, Moosy
Needs more posts/convincing: Fecal

If anyone has specific questions for me hit me up fast since I have to go to my afternoon classes soon.

On October 20 2015 02:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:

Your lists look like this.

On October 20 2015 02:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, I already said what I think of Vonthin and that thought matches what you just asked. I already said his reads are surface level but that's NAI at best for a newbie game. tbh I'd like to lynch someone else than Vonthin for D1 but if you guys start a wagon on him then I'm happy to consolidate if necessary.

On October 20 2015 02:14 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Lynching Eversince for making no sense and being all over the place is dumb because she did that last game.

On October 20 2015 02:13 Rels wrote:

What do you think of "newbie scum maybe wouldn't have 3 scumread in his first serious post" ? Is this a bad reasonning ?

On October 20 2015 02:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:

I mean, the game is to find 3 scum so why wouldn't he if he's either town or mafia emulating town?

On October 20 2015 03:31 GlowingBear wrote:
That said, I want to vote sicklucker for his lackluster push on LoneMeow.

On October 20 2015 04:32 Eversince wrote:
By the way, I don't even really remember the reason we are lynching scott other than the Rels reasoning but I don't want to die today because I actually did want to play in this game.

On October 20 2015 04:34 Eversince wrote:
Rels assuming I don't die today. I completely missed who you are calling BF

On October 18 2015 20:28 Rels wrote:

REALLY BRO ? YOU REMARKED HE WAS JOKING AND YOU WERE JUST MAKING SURE ??? THAT S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT READING YOUR POSTS. NOT.

On October 19 2015 17:39 Rels wrote:

Loving how scott completely missed the accusation against him, which is him saying "just making sure - thank you" when he didn't show he thought the vote was a joke in the first place. Probably scum.
##Vote scott31337

On October 20 2015 02:13 scott31337 wrote:
I got called into work yesterday for this stupid phone issue I thought we had fixed last week, but noooo -

I got the phones calmed down but now the internet is slow as dirt - and probably a switch issue.

I think KelsierSC is town, I'm not down for his lynch

I'll try to check in and give more time in a little bit.

On October 20 2015 02:15 scott31337 wrote:
I mean I know I'm town - if Farah and Shining are scum, why don't they go for my wagon? Second level plays?

##Vote: Eversince

On October 20 2015 03:38 scott31337 wrote:
You can call it weak, RL issues kicked my ass again with these stupid switch configuration issues. I haven't even ate yet and I'm starving to death.

On October 20 2015 04:40 LoneMeow wrote:
Can't figure this out. Sheeping Rels.

##vote: scott31337

On October 20 2015 04:42 sicklucker wrote:
rels can you simple that down i cant read that shit

On October 20 2015 04:47 sicklucker wrote:
ff might be scum too hes not even trying any shennanie that gets his rocks off from that shit

On October 20 2015 04:53 KelsierSC wrote:


yeh that meow vote is the one that gives me pause.

On October 20 2015 19:11 Rels wrote:
Dead game is dead. Who will I sheep if nobody plays ? Maybe I'll random my target. It's a bh game after all

On October 20 2015 21:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Hello

My (slightly) hangover senses points out to rels being mafia.

That makes a combo of rels and sicklucker

And if you consider Moosy doosy voted with his main scum read, I would put him in the team.

But sicklucker makes more sense if he is with Eversince. I don't know.

I have a tendency to believe that wagons so close to each other always means one is mafia. Which isn't always true, but yeah, I have this tendency.

But really, rels insistence in sheeping/RNG looks so forced, I can't possibly believe he is town.

On October 21 2015 05:04 sicklucker wrote:
Rels is probably scum since this game is hard. Hes the best scum player in this game

On October 21 2015 05:08 sicklucker wrote:
idk i saw alot of towns then he comes out with a random scum read as me. just as the guy who had me as a top town read me died.

LIKE I NEVER KILL KSC AS TOWN HERE.

1. his town game does not impress me
2. Im like pretty sure I was his top town if not i was his top 3

On October 21 2015 05:10 sicklucker wrote:
Of course im the veg lol

On October 21 2015 04:59 Rels wrote:
LM: focusing on only one people at a time: it is a scum mindset, so you don't make enemies while pushing your scumread. I realized I did that in my scum games, I was almost caught by rayn for exactly that reason. His vote last night was scum indicative. He is a great shot at being scum.

On October 21 2015 05:12 sicklucker wrote:
rels your so... boring and dumb and its so obvious im town trying to take the nk away from real power roles gj

On October 21 2015 05:13 sicklucker wrote:
if im mafia I dont EVER RECIND HERE because I would own the shit out of you. im vt

On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels

Why did you shoot LM?

On October 21 2015 05:15 sicklucker wrote:
Is rels rly the veg...?

On October 21 2015 05:18 GlowingBear wrote:


Oooooops I was going to vote SL AND question you. Instead I've put you in the vote LOLOLOLOL

##Unvote
##Vote: sicklucker

On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Rels

Why did you shoot LM?

On October 21 2015 05:15 GlowingBear wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: sicklucker

Why did you shoot LM?

On October 21 2015 18:38 GlowingBear wrote:
And to be fair the fact that you took the effort probably means you're town.

On October 21 2015 23:55 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Anyway those are my read and i'm sticking to them, really sure that shining is town.

On October 22 2015 00:16 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Already have given my reasoning on town reading shining.

On October 21 2015 06:16 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I pretty much hard town read shining, while some say he's not emotional there seems to be some emotion in his posts even if hes not angry. He seem happy at points and jokes, anger should be put out of discussion since I know he's trying to stop raging. Also his catch up posts I liked and he cared about ever not answering him. I only see town in him really.

On October 22 2015 00:30 FarahBlackwing wrote:
No I really don't want to spend my time making case on someone that I think is town when I could be looking for scum instead? I think hes town and I've given my reasoning, you disagree because you don't see anger and think hes scummy.

On October 21 2015 13:09 FarahBlackwing wrote:
So von and sicklucker are super dumb telling I think is the phase.

Which is sorta good because I want to eliminate von from the pool now.

On October 22 2015 00:50 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Dumb tell is when people don't have information that mafia should have.

Example would be SL and Vonth acting like there is a cop in the game when we know if you read the OP or if you were in the mafia qt that there is not a cop.

Dumb Tell A statement that makes it seem like you don't have information Mafia would have

On October 22 2015 00:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels/sicklucker is a situation I don’t want to touch right now because it’s dumb and it’s NAI for both players. It’ll be a lot better to just find the other Mafia and figure out alignments from there. So taking them out of the surviving list, it’s this:

On October 22 2015 00:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:

He feels more like Wile E. Coyote tbh.

On October 22 2015 01:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Although Rels being unnecessarily antagonistic is always a scum tell for him.

On October 22 2015 01:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Meh, my pride in reading Rels D1 is too much. If necessary, I'll read through sicklucker's filter and then lynch him but I sincerely think there are better pastures.

On October 22 2015 00:49 FarahBlackwing wrote:

Him not being here or posting after flip really isn't that note worthy from what I know of him.

On October 22 2015 01:34 FarahBlackwing wrote:
He's a really good family friend outside of game. Mostly to my husband but I know him and when he has net

On October 22 2015 01:37 GlowingBear wrote:


LOLOLOLOLOL

On October 22 2015 05:53 Eversince wrote:
Fecal is still a high lynch candidate for me too.

Has been unproductive the whole game.
Wouldn't explain his reads. And since the one time he has done so it's because I bothered him enough for them. Notice how he has yet to repeat this feat since, aside from one huge wall post.
Problem with that wall post in and of itself; it reiterates a bunch. It doesn't make sense to hold this information back at the time. It lacks natural read progression, and makes it easier to muddy the waters behind real intent behind the reads that he has.
The rest of his post are random one liners, throws out a few names here and there, and nothing else but lurk the rest of this entire game.

The irony that he is finally getting any attention for the exact reason I called him out and got so much heat for in the first place is palpable.

On October 20 2015 04:35 sicklucker wrote:


its the two people who always get lynched

On October 22 2015 06:06 Eversince wrote:
This is my second game on this site. I tend to just toss meta out the window.

On October 22 2015 06:32 Eversince wrote:
I'm really confused about Sick right now. He claimed vig, confirmed town. you countered, he admitted he was not vig. confirmed mafia read. Everyone said claim was NAI so I just backed off and now I'm trying to think about it.

I see no reason for town to claim vig in the first place though.

On October 22 2015 06:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can you provide a sample of what you mean? I feel the exact same as last game.

On October 20 2015 04:38 sicklucker wrote:


ya and everyone wanted to lynch you in that hard

On October 22 2015 06:44 Eversince wrote:


No idea. I wouldn't be surprised though. I role-played that game. I took the first half of the game seriously then people started to give me a hard time over the way I was typin'. So I got mad and went full steam, and took it to the next level =).

Then my internet died, and I missed the last half. I tried to replace that game because of it. Game was over by the time I got the problem resolved. I never bothered readin' the last of it.
What's it really matter though?

On October 21 2015 05:02 Eversince wrote:
Oh wow what... Kelsier I expected but Lone Moew was town after that play? Now I'm just really confused.

On October 22 2015 06:49 Rels wrote:

FF do you think this post is town indicative ? (that was just after start of D2)

On October 22 2015 06:45 Rels wrote:
yo FF you have a read on the lucker ?

On October 22 2015 06:41 Rels wrote:

Is this true ?

On October 22 2015 06:23 Rels wrote:

Yo did anyone from last game can confirm this ?

On October 21 2015 05:04 sicklucker wrote:
Rels is probably scum since this game is hard. Hes the best scum player in this game

On October 21 2015 05:08 sicklucker wrote:
idk i saw alot of towns then he comes out with a random scum read as me. just as the guy who had me as a top town read me died.

LIKE I NEVER KILL KSC AS TOWN HERE.

1. his town game does not impress me
2. Im like pretty sure I was his top town if not i was his top 3

On October 22 2015 07:18 Fecalfeast wrote:

Weird that you slap tthe word town on it rather than ask what I think of the post but I don't think this post is too alignment indicative. Unless you think she's incapable of faking a reaction over the vig shot

On October 22 2015 07:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
Far as I remember, eversince did not look up anyone's past games last game

On October 22 2015 09:12 sicklucker wrote:


BECAUSE IM NOT THE VEG AND YOU MORONS THOUGHT I WAS SCUM

On October 22 2015 09:14 sicklucker wrote:


the vote was like 5-5/6-5 for a very long time yes she was

On October 22 2015 11:40 The Shining wrote:
Ohhhhh goodie I'm getting out of work a little early tonight. I'll be back in about an hr and a half, commute home from work and all. Bbs

On October 22 2015 11:39 The Shining wrote:
Especially if he thinks he's carrying his team. One of the things he wont do is suicide himself, though, which is basically what he risked doing by fakeclaiming and then ADMITTING to fake claiming. It's just way too risky of a play. 9/10 times scum is going to hardclaim and get the real blue lynched instead of admitting to role swapping or whatever.

On October 22 2015 18:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
That's not a bad team tbh

On October 22 2015 18:43 Fecalfeast wrote:

Well, if you want to get literal, no. I could lie about stuff and I'm still town.

How many people voted for eversince day 1, rels?

On October 22 2015 16:37 Rels wrote:

Lol. You wanna guess how many people voted for her in the entirety of D1 ?
Anyone has a guess ?