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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 02 2013 23:50 GMT
#9
/in
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 14 2013 06:55 GMT
#159
Setting up an RNG to lynch someone is really stupid, especially with those odds plus it also takes away the fun/skill of the game. Also seems silly to be talking about an afk lynch when the game literally just started, would rather vote for someone suspicious looking like SagaZ who was so quick to start talking about lynching people minutes after the game started.
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 14 2013 07:09 GMT
#160
QUOTE]On October 14 2013 15:52 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Well, I read through my last post,
And then decide how bad that thought is.

Judging by what you just said July,
a 100% GUESS at a "afk lynch" is better than
a 40% chance to land a scrum roll on the first day within the first 4 hours.

My only question is;
Are you being serious right now?
Because trying to throw off town that hard would seem pretty scummy to me.

I'll hold my vote for 2 hours for you to respond. After that I will have to start thinking about going to sleep since I have to work real early. I'm already staying up late for this.[/QUOTE]

How is July's thought a bad idea, it is unsafe, while you have a 40% chance to land a scum you have a 60% chance to blame an innocent townie like myself. Police detectives just don't take a group of people then choose one of them at random and arrest them. Don't even understand how you think he is throwing off the town when you are a danger wanting to pick random people to lynch, that is what seems scummy to me.
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 14 2013 07:37 GMT
#171
On October 14 2013 16:25 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Also Vonthin,
How does that work into what I said at all?

July didn't even post a counter argument.
He just disagreed with what I suggested.



He was just saying he disagreed with your methods, he didn't say anywhere(unless I missed something which i don't think i did) that we waste our votes lynching inactive members which you said he did in one of your earlier posts. Both lynching RNG/getting the inactive person is both sorta stupid
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 14 2013 07:48 GMT
#174
On October 14 2013 16:38 playerboy345 wrote:
Could you maybe quote what post you are reffering to? Or atleast a link to it, would be much easier to keep track of things that way.


This was Julys first post when he responded to the RNG thing

On October 14 2013 15:29 July617 wrote:
You're going to randomly tag someone who could be potential town and marking them as scum?

Doesn't sound like a safe way to play to me .



The bottom of this post is when OdinOfPergo said that July told us to waste our votes

On October 14 2013 16:20 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 16:09 Vonthin wrote:
On October 14 2013 15:52 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Well, I read through my last post,
And then decide how bad that thought is.

Judging by what you just said July,
a 100% GUESS at a "afk lynch" is better than
a 40% chance to land a scrum roll on the first day within the first 4 hours.

My only question is;
Are you being serious right now?
Because trying to throw off town that hard would seem pretty scummy to me.

I'll hold my vote for 2 hours for you to respond. After that I will have to start thinking about going to sleep since I have to work real early. I'm already staying up late for this.


How is July's thought a bad idea, it is unsafe, while you have a 40% chance to land a scum you have a 60% chance to blame an innocent townie like myself. Police detectives just don't take a group of people then choose one of them at random and arrest them. Don't even understand how you think he is throwing off the town when you are a danger wanting to pick random people to lynch, that is what seems scummy to me.



Yes. The difference between his and my idea,
Is mainly, I have a strong chance to land scum.
He has a penny in a hay bail.

More over, my idea leaves me the entire rest of D1 to ALTER my vote.
While he is claiming, regardless of what happens in the next FORTY hours, that we should waste our votes on "in-active" members that may or may not be mod-killed and replaced anyway.


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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 14 2013 07:49 GMT
#175
On October 14 2013 16:30 July617 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 16:28 OdinOfPergo wrote:
On October 14 2013 15:29 July617 wrote:
You're going to randomly tag someone who could be potential town and marking them as scum?

Doesn't sound like a safe way to play to me .



Makes a good point, but would it really be all that smart for scum to play risky?
I don't necessarily agree with his post but I don't see it as scummy.




I don't agree with this at all.
How exactly is lynching a afk/lurker at this point better than taking stronger odds chance of a RNG I posted earlier better?
I just don't get it.


I never said we lynch anyone .

let's just let people talk for a bit.
[/QUOTE]


Do not edit your posts
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 14 2013 09:09 GMT
#208
On October 14 2013 17:40 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 15:52 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Well, I read through my last post,
And then decide how bad that thought is.

Judging by what you just said July,
a 100% GUESS at a "afk lynch" is better than
a 40% chance to land a scrum roll on the first day within the first 4 hours.

My only question is;
Are you being serious right now?
Because trying to throw off town that hard would seem pretty scummy to me.

I'll hold my vote for 2 hours for you to respond. After that I will have to start thinking about going to sleep since I have to work real early. I'm already staying up late for this.



My pre-arguement on why we should do this instead of "Silence" or "afk" lynch.

Show nested quote +

ou're going to randomly tag someone who could be potential town and marking them as scum?

Doesn't sound like a safe way to play to me .


July's response to me.
This is stupid, because you are trading chance to lynch (All-be-it 4 to 6),
For a 100% guess.

Show nested quote +

Setting up an RNG to lynch someone is really stupid, especially with those odds plus it also takes away the fun/skill of the game. Also seems silly to be talking about an afk lynch when the game literally just started, would rather vote for someone suspicious looking like SagaZ who was so quick to start talking about lynching people minutes after the game started.


Vonthin supports this view point.
Which makes me wonder about him too.
Why would people freak about about of 4-6 chance when they are willing to jump on a 1-10?
Nothing adds up right now.

So now you join in.

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 16:24 playerboy345 wrote:
On October 14 2013 13:17 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Oh, to clarify - If lynching an in-active is our only option, I'm not entirely against it.
I merely don't want to waste our votes on someone we can't possibly know anything about (Because they don't post.)
This option only makes any sort of sense closer to the end of day 1.
Right now, as it stands, we have the next 45-46ish hours to gather/draw conclusions from any information presented.


Agree with this post 100%. We have to keep people talking and find oddities, it's our best chance at catching scum (and something they say might bite them in their ass later).


You jump in supporting my suggestion.

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2013 14:38 istandwithmitt wrote:
##vote: SagaZ

Lynching lurkers gives us no information for future days & keeps scum from having to lay down a real vote. The way he's trying to guide the town is really scummy too & makes him look town without contributing anything.

Well, see ya



That is a ballsy move, what makes you think it's a good idea to go ballsdeep on him because of his ONE post?


Again we agree.

On October 14 2013 15:29 July617 wrote:
You're going to randomly tag someone who could be potential town and marking them as scum?

Doesn't sound like a safe way to play to me .



Makes a good point, but would it really be all that smart for scum to play risky?
I don't necessarily agree with his post but I don't see it as scummy.

[/QUOTE]

This is where you lose me.
They are trying to call me out for my RNG.
But what better plan are they suggesting?
Because alls I've heard to this point is "lynch afk".
Which, most likely, means we waste our votes on someone who is going to get mod-killed/replaced the following morning.
Describe in detail if I have not followed peoples logic soundly.[/QUOTE]


July stated that all he was was disagreeing with your RANDOM choice of lynching someone, wasn't implying on any other lynching method and literally nothing about choosing inactive person and guessing, you are just making up shit to make him look bad. Once again I was saying I am disagreeing with your RNG and no where stating I am making a 1-10 guess on someone.You are jumping 2 conclusions once again and trying to make people look worse. Just cause no one stated a plan besides lynching an inactive or your RNG plan doesn't mean we all agree with the lynching inactives. I am not comfortable with lynching anyone yet as it is still pretty early in day 1 and not everyone has posted yet as also stated by July in an earlier post, my plan is to wait as long as possible to vote after reading everyone's posts to see who is the most suspicious.
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 15 2013 11:45 GMT
#285
After catching up after I went to sleep/work I am casting my vote for istandwithmitt

##vote: istandwithmitt

Agree with the other people who voted for him(Suess/Odin), posts are really negative and bring bad attention to him, he might just be a townie with poor communication skills but still has the highest chances for being a scum from what I've read
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 15 2013 14:20 GMT
#298
On October 15 2013 22:29 Bereft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 20:45 Vonthin wrote:
After catching up after I went to sleep/work I am casting my vote for istandwithmitt

##vote: istandwithmitt

Agree with the other people who voted for him(Suess/Odin), posts are really negative and bring bad attention to him, he might just be a townie with poor communication skills but still has the highest chances for being a scum from what I've read

seriously? has the "highest chances for being a scum" based on what analysis exactly? did you even read my or Seuss' post?

##Vote: Vonthin



I did read your post and Suess' posts

Here is reasons why I voted for him

1. He is super quick to jump the gun to lynch someone, votes after seeing SagaZ's very first post saying we should lynch inactive

2. His very next post he switches and votes for playerboy by saying he posts nothing worthwhile(he has some point here, a good portion of his posts don't say much besides i agree with x but a lot of those posts came after he voted against him)

3. Makes shit posts saying things like "Good poast" after someone votes against him, then just proceeds to argue poorly trying to justify his voting and being 2 confrontational plus no real analysis.


He seems the scummiest to me, there are some people that seem scummy but nothing as glaring as him. I am still contemplating switching my vote to Nyx but want to see another post or two from him. Reasons for thinking he is scum so far: Hasn't said almost anything besides that he is gonna blindly follow Odin when he isn't a confirmed town and that odin has a plan because we don't have one the townies auto lose! Then he just posts once more saying he is voting for Mitt and nothing else




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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 15 2013 16:23 GMT
#309
#unvote

#vote nyxnyxnyx


Literally hasn't said anything besides he is following Odin, nothing about who is scummy. I don't see why a townie would just say they will just do what another person is doing especially if they don't know if they are mafia or not.
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 15 2013 16:24 GMT
#310
oops forgot a hashtag

##unvote


##vote nyxnyxnyx
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 15 2013 19:13 GMT
#323
On October 16 2013 03:54 Balla24 wrote:
Ok. I have a scum read on nyx, agree with E00e on this one..

Unfortunately it's not much since he hasn't done or said much, it's a gut feeling. He starts the game by blindly following Odin (who was just posting to start conversation, imo) and then suddenly switches his vote to Vonthin for either of the following reasons: (1) people called him out on randomly following Odin so he decides to follow other people or (2) Vonthin voted him.

He hasn't given any other reasoning for his play besides the fact that it's good to have town leaders to follow and a plan. I'm not liking him. However, I am hesitant to cast a vote because Vonthin casted a vote on him and he is also under suspicion from other players.

I'm on the fence with my read for Vonthin because he has some substance to his posts and posted his plan beforehand, the switch to nyx makes sense. I'd like to know why he's willing to let up on istandwithmitt, is it because you agree on what others have said about him or what?



Did you read his past couple of posts? Looks like Mittgave up and will most likely be mod killed, even if he isn't gonna be mod killed there isn't a point in killing him today since we pretty much know everything about him and nyx started to look really scummy to me so I switched to him like I said I would if I saw someone who looked scummier than mitt, nyx looks incapable of forming an opinion for himself and just follows everyone else which doesn't really seem like a thing a townie would do.
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Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 15 2013 19:19 GMT
#324
Also one of the reasons(not that good of a reason tho imo) I initially voted for Mitt at the time was that I wasn't sure I would have time to be on and cast a vote before the deadline and he seemed like an alright choice at the time since everyone else voted and no one looked scummy enough to warrant a vote yet.

Anyways I have to go to work now and won't be back till late tonight unless I have time to check on my phone, hopefully I'm not hanged but it looks like I am just for disagreeing with a stupid rng plan and then hoping on an obvious bandwagon that people were starting to get off :/
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