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FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 13 2015 19:45 GMT
#77
/in

I hope I'm ok enough
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 14 2015 02:23 GMT
#85
My husband told me I would enjoy games here just don't get emotional because its hated here. Though I'm not sure if he was trolling or not..
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 16 2015 18:14 GMT
#131
/confirm
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 17 2015 20:23 GMT
#167
What is a bus?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 17 2015 20:28 GMT
#175
So moosydoosy claimed mafia unprompted and then glowing bear tries to cover foe it.

That doesn't make any sense I think both of you are mafia now. It makes no sense logically for that to happen.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 17 2015 21:06 GMT
#206
Moos is pretty obvious scum and I don't see any logical point in you trying to joke with him unless you are trying to cover for some form of slip of the tongue.

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 17 2015 21:15 GMT
#213
I disagree he has no logical reasoning in that point in the thread to make that sort of joke at all, it came out of no where to a point.

He wasn't promoted and townies should have no reason to claim scum by accident or not. And by your own logic or lack thereof if no mafia would ever claim mafia in the thread then all people who do so would be instantly read town.

So only dumb mafia wouldn't take advantage of that.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 14:36 GMT
#337
Hi, I'm sitting around reading the game and Idk if I should just post things in a list? I'll try that and see how it goes.

I'm pretty convinced at this juncture that lone is town a bit. Or at least worth keeping around for another day. There seems to be some form of curiosity and pushing in the questions that he is asking. And when pointed to the database(great tool btw) it looks remarkably different from the other games where they have rolled scum.

I also now think that glowingbear is more than likely town. She just seems to be trying to help the thread in a decent direction and trying to give her reads in a concise fashion. I think she is town.

I think my no st controversial read here is shining. I think he's town, just from general knowledge and looking at other games (his last scum game especially) the posts don't seem longish/boring and have a flair and really playful. While it's worth noting it's preliminary I think there's a good shot at him being town.

Any questions just ask and I'll try to answer.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 15:19 GMT
#342
I think moos is probably scum I'm not overly confident in that but his filter is pretty useless. The thing that gives me the most pause is his moments talking about the vt claim.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 17:34 GMT
#355
To moosydoosy

I've looked at several of your games over the past little while to attempt to get a hold of where you are and if I'm wrong there are a few things I need you to talk about.

1) in your past town games you generally have a good bit of banter with the rest of the town at points you go against a somewhat thread sentiments early and stick your head out in disagreement against town leaders (rels can fit here). But you lack a hard scum read in your town games early. Why are you so sure so early with no interactions that you generally thrive on.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 17:50 GMT
#364
Why did you dodge the question I asked, its perfectly reasonable. You are way to sure on boxer without much interaction or postng at all. I don't care if you think my idea of you not having hard suck reads is right or wrong answer my question.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 18:01 GMT
#373
We aren't even 20 pages into a game and you have a rock solid scum read on someone who,has barely posted at all on something that is flimsy at best.

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 18:08 GMT
#383
I've given what reads I have at the moment.

In no way have I said you aren't supposed to have scum reads and trying to color my question in that light is questionable at best.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 18:18 GMT
#388
You know what you just said doesn't negate anything I've said right?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 18:25 GMT
#394
Like I said before the reasoning you are using to hard scum read boxer is flimsy and doesn't lend itself to be as strong as you are making it. Nor is what you are saying negating what I'm saying.

Now I'm,not saying he can't be scum but your reasoning is poor and all I wanted was you to explain why you read him so hard so early when part of your read comes from what's the phrase omgus
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 18:29 GMT
#395
However I'll end this here and move on.

I think kelsier is,most likely town. If he was scum a good plan would be to let moos and myself spam up the thread when we can't see eye to eye. But he interjects to try to get us back on a different path. I see good town motivation and his dogged questioning and prodding seems to come from town.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 18:36 GMT
#397
Curiosity and wanting to draw people to answer questions typically comes more from town than scum. While it's possible kelsier is playing excellent as scum I understand it's hard to keep up that level of play so I don't see why I should feel less confident in,my read
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 20:13 GMT
#410
On October 19 2015 04:55 Eversince wrote:
Also there is so much wrong with what Fecal just did. Just nooo.


Why not explain a bit more?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 20:33 GMT
#427
I don't see his questioning of moos to be a fight, at worst it was a cordial misunderstanding at best it was pressure.

And I don't see how basically halfway through today when people are making reads you can call ff out on that? If we were coming up on the eod and he was decrying a lynch I'd agree to an extent but he's clearly giving a read. Albeit one that has little apparent reasoning but one I agree with.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 20:38 GMT
#429
On October 19 2015 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ksc is town ir I'll eat my hat. Farah seems towny to me but newbs posting at all get on my good side. Not liking sicklucker tbh, he's going to say i always scum him but i feel it for real this time.

Gb is not making me praise him but I'd call him null atm. There was another newbie who posted a shitty list that keeps getting quoted i didn't like that list.

I'm in bed on my phone and don't feel like filtering at all


Town:
Ksc
Fatah

Null
GB

Scum
Sl
The other newb
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 20:58 GMT
#441
Why is it important for me though?

I obviously don't know why he has the reads that he does atm, I agree with the ksc obviously and Tue read on me is a good one.

I wish he would explain but not sure how it feeds into your scum theory without trying to get him to explain to see how fake they are
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 21:44 GMT
#469
Everasince just a quick question why does it seem like you lack curiosity and just care about painting things as scummy without questioning?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 21:55 GMT
#471
Your right totally not and is safe to answer
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 22:13 GMT
#475
Ok kelsier, do you have any interesting thoughts on anyone else?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 18 2015 23:39 GMT
#482
Why do you have ever as town sicklucker
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 15:52 GMT
#536
Hello and good morning, I believe that Eversince is the best lynch today and here are the reasons why.

Firstly we look at the entrance post that he makes about TheShining.

On October 19 2015 04:54 Eversince wrote:
I caught up at last!

I don't much like Shining at all. especially this

Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...

I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.

Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.

Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.

Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?

I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.

Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list?


This is a big post that says nothing at all really.
Farah read is the most generic thing I've seen in a while.
Second paragraph is all filler.
The most telling point in it is the Moosy read. He's capable of caring so much that he'll buss his entire team to win. The fact that he's not caring this game doesn't bother me though. Yeh, how does that statement make any sense at all unless you already know what alignment Moosy is?



Seems a bit interesting on the surface except shining has been getting a bit of attention from most of the thread. It also lacks some of the context that is going on at that time in the thread. On its own its not a big deal and with follow up it could be good.

On October 19 2015 04:55 Eversince wrote:
Also there is so much wrong with what Fecal just did. Just nooo.


And then Eversince immediately jumps to putting some shade onto FecalFeast. But then does ask Shining about his 180 on GB.

Shining answers and this is the response

On October 19 2015 05:21 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:17 The Shining wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:56 Eversince wrote:
Oh goodies, while your here Shining, why the 180 on GB?


Oh this ought to b fun. Please do explain my 180 on GB since I have no idea what you're talking about.


Prior to that list post you where calling people out for town reading GB implying you didn't have one. What lead you to that town read?


After this shining answers again but Eversince ignores him and never even goes back to his scum read on him instead choosing to focus on FF and Kelsier. In context and with shinings answer it does seem like Eversince isn't reading the thread as thoroughly as they could be.

His tift with me comes down to how he is reading FecalFeast, when pressed for a better explanation these posts were the response.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 19 2015 05:19 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:55 Eversince wrote:
Also there is so much wrong with what Fecal just did. Just nooo.


Why not explain a bit more?


Sure! He's done squat all this game. Then randomly pops in to say if the current lynch isn't town he'll eat a hat. So confident in his read but doesn't care to explain why or how he came into that read. I think that's the first read he even has this game.


On October 19 2015 05:35 Eversince wrote:
What are Fecals reads Farah? Other than Kelsier is, unexplaied, town?


On October 19 2015 05:43 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ksc is town ir I'll eat my hat. Farah seems towny to me but newbs posting at all get on my good side. Not liking sicklucker tbh, he's going to say i always scum him but i feel it for real this time.

Gb is not making me praise him but I'd call him null atm. There was another newbie who posted a shitty list that keeps getting quoted i didn't like that list.

I'm in bed on my phone and don't feel like filtering at all


Town:
Ksc
Fatah

Null
GB

Scum
Sl
The other newb


And why does he have any of those reads?


On October 19 2015 05:44 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:35 Eversince wrote:
What are Fecals reads Farah? Other than Kelsier is, unexplaied, town?

On October 19 2015 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can you point out some actual posts and what you find scummy about them? Specifically how his questioning of moose was scummy rather than towny


You ignored my request for actual scummy posts


I'm not ignoring it. It takes time to post thoughts on two pages of filter. Time, you'll get my thoughts about it soon.


On October 19 2015 05:53 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 05:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:43 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On October 19 2015 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ksc is town ir I'll eat my hat. Farah seems towny to me but newbs posting at all get on my good side. Not liking sicklucker tbh, he's going to say i always scum him but i feel it for real this time.

Gb is not making me praise him but I'd call him null atm. There was another newbie who posted a shitty list that keeps getting quoted i didn't like that list.

I'm in bed on my phone and don't feel like filtering at all


Town:
Ksc
Fatah

Null
GB

Scum
Sl
The other newb


And why does he have any of those reads?

Why don't you ask him?


Why ask this and not just tell me? I mean it's pretty obvious I'd like to know.
It's important for Farah, because you haven't done it at all yet.
When I made my first post on you, you had 3 post. 2 completely filler post followed with that.


On October 19 2015 06:19 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 06:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
On October 19 2015 06:09 Eversince wrote:
On October 19 2015 05:56 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok and does my not explaining my reads to your satisfaction make me scum?


Yeh, it looks kind of bad.

'kind of bad'

come on give it to me! I want something with real emotion! Why am I scum? You started posting right around the same time as I came back to thread, why is my inactivity with NAI excuses worse than your inactivity? Why is my goading you for fun scummy when I missed the fun joke around phase?


Who would you kill if you had a gun right now?


You. Your not worth a lynch. Not playing the game sadly doesn't make you scum. Refusing to give a reason to have the reads you have might but until you actually start playing that might be difficult to figure out.


Now in this mess of quotes is the sequence of events. Tries to put scum on FecalFeast for unexplained reads does not seek to understand where the reads come from only try to make him look scummy, when he is confronted/pressured to explain his stance he does to some degree. Still thinks FecalFeast is scummy by the end of interactions but thinks that FecalFeast isn't worth a lynch because he isn't "playing".

His interactions with Kel are just as strange, loads up the argument he has with moosdoosy and writes a narrative to explain why it is scummy but when hes confronted by Kelsier if all of his posts are scummy he is answered that some of his posts Eversince likes, but votes him anyway.

I think hes scum but heres a condensed version.

TLDR:
1) Only comes into the thread to fling discord and soft push people to see what would take off. You can see this within the posts on Shining, FecalFeast and Kelsier (who he settles on)
2) There is a lack of curiosity and trying to figure out peoples alignments, we see this with how he reacts to FF reads instead of trying to figure out why he has the reads that he does. Instead he latches on and tries to paint him as scummy as can be without even asking why until all the people who are active including FecalFeast tells him to ask Fecal why he had those reads.
3) Seems to not be reading the thread at a decent clip, for example his ribbing of shining about the generic read on myself. He was one of the first people to post that reasoning so it can't really be generic. It also seems like he didn't read FecalFeast read post or some of the context in the kelsier posts.
4) Forgetting scum reads to move onto another, look at how he handles the shining and it seems like hes coming out of the gates to scum him, but has no real interaction with him to a point. And even though shining is here ignores him after one response when there is valuable information to be gained. Does nothing with the scum lean but settle on other people.
5) Uneven treatment of Kelsier posting, He weighs the "fight" or questioning of Moosdoosy by Kelsier heavier than the rest of the filter trying to make him look like scum.

I think we have found scum and I invite everyone to vote Eversince with me

##Vote Eversince
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 16:28 GMT
#553
And what I post gets glossed over at least respond to it
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 16:32 GMT
#557
There's much more evidence for ever since though
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 16:47 GMT
#560
You would rather lynch a useless person and waste a lynch when I've given you a really solid case?

Even I know shining won't be back till Tuesday at earliest
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 17:29 GMT
#596
Except that's not what the case is at all and is a total misrepresentation of what was said.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 18:00 GMT
#606
I think its interesting moosey is blindly sheeping onto Scott who id his biggest scum read currently. And totally disregards case on ever and misrepresents it.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 18:02 GMT
#608
Autocorrect got me, boxer his biggest scum read is on Scott hut he totally just sheeped onto Scott with him. Oh well
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 18:04 GMT
#610
That's true but whenever one of my top scum reads is going on someone else I wouldn't just blindly sheep
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 18:33 GMT
#618
What activity by ever since?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 18:38 GMT
#623
On October 20 2015 03:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 03:33 FarahBlackwing wrote:
What activity by ever since?


He has two pages filter and it looks to me that he is trying to play the game.


Most of his filter is from pregame, he only played for an hour or two yesterday and hasn't done anything besides throwing suspicion.

You totally ignored my case.

Read it and vote ever since its the best case in the thread and all of it is more likely to come from mafia rather than town.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 18:53 GMT
#628
That's not correct read my case and vote for ever instead of making it so Scotts lynched and then go somewhere else.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 19:02 GMT
#630
Its the only case in this thread that's any substantial length, but you can post.

Gi read it now or you are throwing the game basically.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 19:03 GMT
#632
It has nothing to do with activity my case is strong and its in context. Vote ever since
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 19:07 GMT
#634
He's null and I think the case on ever is really strong please read it
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 19:17 GMT
#636
Considering that's to GB? Since you wouldn't vote for yourself obviously
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 19:27 GMT
#644
Look at my case, ever isn't doing anything still but making excuses also. Vote for ever he's scum look at my case.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 19:28 GMT
#645
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496519-student-mafia-xvi?page=27#536

Look at it read it and vote ever since
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 19:51 GMT
#692
My case is good could sheep me
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 20:12 GMT
#723
Ever why did you vote Scott over all your scum reads that you cared about previously
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 20:15 GMT
#725
Obviously and lm comes off looking horrible when he couldn't understand what exactly? Mu case was simplistic meh
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 20:21 GMT
#730
What's the point of blindly trusting thread instead of pushing any of your own reads that others share.

Or you obviously got up to the point in the thread where I had my case, or you were lurking and saw me push you. So you wasted your time instead of catching up.

so yesh
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 19 2015 20:45 GMT
#749
On October 20 2015 05:36 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2015 05:29 Eversince wrote:
If you wanna' know anything else feel free to ask. Or if I confused you in some way I'll try to elaborate. I didn't catch that mafia association from your post at all lol. I'm glad you pointed it out


I guess I would like some kind of concise and clear train of thought that makes this happen.

So you don't really play the game to start with then you say you managed to catch up with the whole thread. After that you say shining is scum for his opening post and ff is scum for giving his list of reads. Then you decide that I was the biggest scum of the game but rather than actually having a reason you then go and dig back through my filter trying to find things to call me scummy for, you take almost each post I do and call me mafia, which you now admit were all bad reasons. After I dispute all those reasons you just disappear. But this was all an attempt to make it seem like you were contributing?

You don't say anything about moosy even though he was the biggest spammer who you didnt't like.

You then return around deadline time to shove a vote on scott.

Perhaps you can see why i'm "confused" and i'd probably ask why I shouldn't lynch you.




hey look...its like you read my case!
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 20 2015 18:40 GMT
#788
Hi I should probably put together a list in case I die or something.

I feel like several things still indicate that ever since is scum, the way the votes piled on town Scott makes it seem a bit strange. The promise of activity but almost none since along with some associative things heavily shows that ever is scum.

If we have a vigilante I would shoot eversonce for information on how wagons were formed and why people went where.

Lone probably looks the absolute worst out of everything yesterday. He asks me to explain my case because he's considering it and just throws a vote with a stupid reason and afks(?) that's just not town behavior at all.

SL and moos are probably the most likely in the third position. I'm leaning more towards moos because of his misrepresentation of the case on ever since and going along with boxer instead of pushing anything else. And then just not being helpful at all to town after that.

Sl still has a chance with a wasted vote, but I don't think that's as telling as others do.

If I die in pretty sure that shining is town and shouldn't be lynched. Kelsier is town even if I'm annoyed at him for not going with the stronger case during the night.

Rels I think is town as well, the way he pushed his case makes me feel that way.

Be back around deadline if anyone has any questions.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 20 2015 20:03 GMT
#811
Lm wasn't a bad shot at all good ml target taken off the board.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 20 2015 20:54 GMT
#886
So I think sl is probably town no matter what as well as rels.

So that makes things a little easier one sec.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 20 2015 21:16 GMT
#893
To me there's a really small pool we have to pick from,

Vonthin
Moos
Ever
GB
Boxer
FF
Shining

I pretty much hard town read shining, while some say he's not emotional there seems to be some emotion in his posts even if hes not angry. He seem happy at points and jokes, anger should be put out of discussion since I know he's trying to stop raging. Also his catch up posts I liked and he cared about ever not answering him. I only see town in him really.

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 20 2015 21:28 GMT
#900
Hit enter to soon I'll finish up
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 20 2015 21:37 GMT
#903
So that leaves me with a pool of six people and three of them are scum.

Gb is the next person I would eliminate from the lynch list. She has been looking for scum it seems, initially it looks like she is also trying to get me to look at alternatives when early when I was interacting about moos. Some of it I disagree with but her reaction to ff voting Scott was interesting as scum has little motivation to jump on and off if Scott is scum.

This leaves us with a lynch pool of ever, Vonthin, fecal, boxer, moos.

This is where the game gets really difficult for me.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 20 2015 21:46 GMT
#904
Tired of sending stuff in to early.

The easiest answer is von is the disinterested scum at this juncture with how he came in voted left little on the table and seems to not care. But this could come just as easily from town it seems (lonemeow) as it could from scum. So I would probably suggest not lynching von today and looking elsewhere. However if von is scum it's highly probable that eversince is town.

The second easiest thing (and what I think we should do) is lynch moos. He didn't really care who got lynched yesterday as evidenced by not really pushing his preference of boxer past a point and then saying well I'll just sheep onto Scott who his top scum read was in. This is highly suspicious and his other play during the game seems scum indicative and his pushing off of ever will shed light on her alignment if he flips scum.

I've said plenty about ever before now so just read my case. But there is a direct possibility that it was a town v town wagon and scum just didn't care where votes went.

I'm not sure about fecal or boxer I have t read more.

But that's where I am atm
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 20 2015 22:41 GMT
#908
Its worth mentioning that ever could be town here as well.

If we had two wagons that were led by town it is highly likely mafia didn't care where votes fell. Which could be the case with lone being the hammer vote basically on Scott.

I have to think a hit about it. But it's worth considering...
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 01:21 GMT
#912
I'm not really town reading ever since I just think its worth considering and looking at the reason the vote d1 felt so apathetic was because both wagons were town.

Ever can still be scum and I think has a decent chance of flipping but moos probably has the best chance st this point.

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 04:09 GMT
#921
So von and sicklucker are super dumb telling I think is the phase.

Which is sorta good because I want to eliminate von from the pool now.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 14:55 GMT
#931
I find it curious that boxer is continuously trying to push doubt on me? This is at least the third or fourth time he has done so.

Anyway those are my read and i'm sticking to them, really sure that shining is town. Less sure about GB but gb isn't worth a lynch today in any case.

Eversince might still be worth a lynch but moos is just the better lynch.

1) He isn't doing anything today at all
2) He voted with his biggest scum read and misrepresented my case for no reason

The lynch list is currently small honestly

On October 20 2015 05:00 Blazinghand wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count


scott31337 (7): KelsierSC, Rels, boxerfred, MoosyDoosy, GlowingBear, Fecalfeast, Eversince, Lonemeow
Eversince (5): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, scott31337, Vonthin, GlowingBear
LoneMeow (1): [green]sicklucker[green], boxerfred

Not voted (0):

Currently, scott31337 is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends at Monday, Oct 19 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) in .

Voting is mandatory! Voting is done here in this thread. PM the hosts if the vote count is not correct.


Those are my reads i'm going to say that glowingbear does have some interesting things, like the vote/unvote of scott to put them ahead for lynch then moving vote to waste it then back to ever after another vote is on ever.

So in that regard if ever is scum its more likely that GB is scum here.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 15:16 GMT
#934
Already have given my reasoning on town reading shining.

And yes this is my first mafia game.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 15:24 GMT
#936
After my initial question(about busses) I looked up terms/items to have a better understanding of some things so I didn't clutter the thread and asked questions. That's where I got the terms dumb tells/omgus and a few others.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 15:30 GMT
#939
No I really don't want to spend my time making case on someone that I think is town when I could be looking for scum instead? I think hes town and I've given my reasoning, you disagree because you don't see anger and think hes scummy.

Found some at the mafia wiki and reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/ryuzilla/comments/2pj3yh/mafia_allstars_common_terms/)

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 15:49 GMT
#942
On October 22 2015 00:33 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 00:30 FarahBlackwing wrote:
No I really don't want to spend my time making case on someone that I think is town when I could be looking for scum instead? I think hes town and I've given my reasoning, you disagree because you don't see anger and think hes scummy.

Not only that though. What catch up post did you like ?
He was the first to put suspicions on scott, scott didn't do anything, he ended up voting not scott.
He didn't care about the lynch target, he posted only once near EOD. No reaction to the flip.
He answered defensively to Vonthin's question at the start of the game.


1) Its not alignment worthy to judge shining about how he approaches eod on a Monday when he has limited internet access at best, and none at worst. Him not being here or posting after flip really isn't that note worthy from what I know of him.
2) I think he cared plenty about the lynch target, he saw a good case that made a lot of sense and he sheeped it. There is nothing wrong about that when it was the strongest thing in the thread at the time.
3) This ties into the last post, sheeping i'm told is a skill that most people don't know how to utilize correctly. When someone has a good case that you see that they believe in you should weigh whether your suspicions on someone whos barely active is better than a fleshed out case that someone really believes in. Its not alignment indicative but he made a ok choice.
4) Vonth never really asked him that many questions, and voth town read shining? So this is a non point

Liked his catch up posts before he started interacting with eversince specifically.

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 15:50 GMT
#943
Dumb tell is when people don't have information that mafia should have.

Example would be SL and Vonth acting like there is a cop in the game when we know if you read the OP or if you were in the mafia qt that there is not a cop.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 15:57 GMT
#951
I already did GlowingBear
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 16:28 GMT
#960
Moos why were you so against lynching ever yesterday to the point of misrepresenting me. And today you are super onboard when nothing changed from yesterday
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 16:34 GMT
#963
He's a really good family friend outside of game. Mostly to my husband but I know him and when he has net
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 16:39 GMT
#969
Claim and dumb tells.

And not sure should be back today probably at some point.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 16:42 GMT
#970
Does no one else find it interesting moos is voting ever when he hard pushed against his lynch yesterday?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 18:51 GMT
#978
On October 22 2015 01:44 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 01:39 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Claim and dumb tells.

And not sure should be back today probably at some point.

only mobile here so just a question: you initially misunderstood dumb tells. however you still say sl is dumbtelling. out of all sl? he plays lots of games here.


not exactly sure where I misunderstood dumb telling
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 21 2015 19:14 GMT
#988
I'm actually considering trying to flip ever here, I really wish vig would of shot him...

##vote ever since

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 22 2015 18:55 GMT
#1318
Ok so I'm behind and I'll try to catch up anything I should look at specifically.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 22 2015 18:59 GMT
#1327
Not sure why I should be lynched I suppose. Everyone has been town reading me but whatever
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 22 2015 19:05 GMT
#1340
And why is ever being town read now?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 22 2015 19:15 GMT
#1352
Yeah I'm not going to be super active tommorow or the weekend. So if you want to lynch me todays the day.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 22 2015 19:23 GMT
#1355
I hope moos is scum.

##unvote
##vote moos


Anyway I don't feel much like reading the game so I'll just go play some other games and come back when I'm motivated.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 22 2015 19:32 GMT
#1359
Basically what you are saying is either every scum member is bussing in your opinion or its a town wagon?

Well are you sold on ff being the scum?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 22 2015 19:48 GMT
#1388
I actually don't know about the lynch, if MD was town he would care more. But the scum game of his I read awhile ago seems he cares more as scum so there's that to.

Maybe we should look elsewhere idk
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 22 2015 19:48 GMT
#1390
Meh better to just stay
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 22 2015 19:59 GMT
#1419
Still not sure what the case on me or why people think I'm scum oh well.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 22 2015 22:01 GMT
#1478
Eod was atrocious for numerous people though, I didn't know what to do in that situation. The voting was pretty much over by the time I arrived and moos could of been scum he was one of the people I read that way earlier. The wagon made me,nervous but if I was mafia it would of been more beneficial for me to afk instead of having lack luster posting spurts.

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 00:13 GMT
#1488
Vont probably so, shining I doubt it heavily and won't ever vote him.

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 00:27 GMT
#1491
Boxer is q real possibility and ever is possible with them.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 17:03 GMT
#1572
Yeah this is stupid.

I suspect shining didn't realize who I was until he connected a few dots with my forum name connected with a few other things.

Secondly I'm not sure if coached is the correct way, mt job forces me to be logical and analytical of facts and research/investigate points to a fault. I have done my due diligence if I was right about town reads that's a good thing but I was equally wrong about moos and lone.

Now if I'm scum I have left myself in a precarious situation where I either am lynched because I have lack of people to push due to town reading people and *spewing* them town dooming my mafia team.

Or I'm town, this is my first game and I tried to lead a lynch d1 on someone I thought was scum. D2 I wanted to lynch that person again to see how wagons were information wise, as a shot would of been better in that situation. Moos was needlessly problematic and I had him as sxum at the start of the day.

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 17:23 GMT
#1581
I didn't dodge any question that I know of.

And I probably can read shining, using the information provided.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 17:35 GMT
#1587
Because I'm using a database of meta reads and applying what I've learned. Its really not that hard
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 17:47 GMT
#1595
Because the database I'm using was compiled by a very knowledgeable person who reads shining very well I understand it?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 17:51 GMT
#1600
On October 24 2015 02:48 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 02:47 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Because the database I'm using was compiled by a very knowledgeable person who reads shining very well I understand it?

What
the fuck
are you talking about
Are you talking about this ? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database


No my husbands personalized player folders im stealing out of.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 17:56 GMT
#1607
He plays here and I'm sure he likes keeping notes on people.

You'd have to ask shining if he knows or not as I haven't talked to shining as we sre in a game together.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 18:10 GMT
#1632
Game rules that I understand it I can't communicate with anyone outside of the game about the game including my husband.

And I'm not at liberty to talk about my coach and you making mention of it in a bait like attempt is deplorable.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 18:12 GMT
#1638
I'm pretty sure SL is scum though. At least I know where my vote is going tommorow
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 18:13 GMT
#1641
Actually using golders/database without input is quite different from direct talking as one requires the ability to think and apply while the other doesn't.

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 18:15 GMT
#1643
Out of thread communication:

It is common for mafia to use a medium outside of TL such as QuickTopics or IRC to communicate during the game. Players who have not explicitly been given permission to communicate outside the thread are not allowed to attempt to infiltrate such communication channels. Players who are not mafia are not allowed to communicate about this game outside of the thread.

I am not breaking obvious rules.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 18:20 GMT
#1650
Not answering, if you want the answer on that talk to damdred.

obviously I didn't know terminology before I looked it up or I wouldn't have a reddit link available upon request.

they aren't probably its you vont and someone else.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 18:38 GMT
#1655
I've given my reads while I'm here,

if you have read my filter which you claim to have the only reason I read you as town was you were dumb telling about the cop. This isn't alignment indicative of you so besides that you have been pretty scummy. I think I had another reason for town reading you but its nai of you as well.

I've given my read on ever but id rather lynch you and when you flip scum ever is probably lock town.

Vont is probably scum idk
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 18:40 GMT
#1657
If you had read mu filter which I doubt I have reads on almost the entirety of the game documented.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 20:56 GMT
#1667
Here's what I think, the game is still hard but pretty win able if we go about this in a good fashion.

Firstly rels is our confirmed town so already we have a good lead on this. (1) confirmed town at this juncture.

Now we need to find 4 more to finish the game and win it. Or at least shorten the lynch pool for today.

Of course I think I'm confirmed town or very likely to be town, if there is disagreement with this we should talk through it and get it aettled. But if you read ny filter it has been concise and has been to the point and pre try free with my thoughts and I tried to lead a lynch d1 against a town Scott when I understand it mafia are more lazy in this situation and willing to slide by when I did the opposite.

I will answer whatever questions to try to make this easier but posting some thoughts
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 21:04 GMT
#1668
Glowingbear, talk to me. D1 eod you voted Scott to give him majority over eversince and then moved your vote in a wasted fashion and ignored my case and asking to go check iHowever you move your vote to ever when ff votes Scott.

You explain it as fecalfeast might be scum, why did this cause this reaction when you gave Scott the vote lead to start with?

And then you tell fecal later you don't have a scum read on him But just you might think he's scum trying to hammer Scott when you basically hammered him? It doesn't make sense with your handling of fecal in this situation. Can you explain.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 22:03 GMT
#1674
Explain why I'm scum rels.

Onto Vont however it is interesting how he town reads me the entirety of the game and points to the myriad of reads and good thought process.

But when people start suspecting me he flips and says I'm very possible scum for not doing much totally contradicting the aforementioned town read. And then when pressed about my read on Shining soft defends me that I can have that read.

If I'm scum it won't be a net a read will be a to much information read.

##vote Vonthin
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 23 2015 22:11 GMT
#1676
I didn't answer plenty of what sl asked, also Poe is a horrible reasoning and it's something that nobody can defend against and as I understand it doesn't make anyone scum. So yes it's bad reasoning and bad play in this case with so many people not playing and you unable to answer anything about why I'm scum.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 00:03 GMT
#1680
Fecal what do you think of glowingbear
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 02:45 GMT
#1692
Meh idk why he would log in on the comp <<.

Anyway I'm not sure why I'm scummy for those things you listed. I stated my stance on moos earlier in the day, and said I would lynch him.

I gave answers to SL question, I find it to be a pointless question. And I can't answer things when I am busy at work or just not here.

I explained my shining read and it was drawn out to be bigger than it was.

everything you list is nai
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 14:32 GMT
#1715
##unvote
##vote farahblackwing


A few things before I die.

1) While I'm not the most experienced when it comes to poe to take a quote from damdred "While poe seems good its a trap that old players fall into and some newer players. Its built around the premise that we want to be lazy and not put work in past a point. Can't defend against it and ends up making you lose games lynching down a list". He laughs about it because he tries to poe games but yeah.
2) Next game you are in try not to tunnel people for such weak reasoning rels. You don't even try to answer the questions I posed of scum motivation in certain things I do. So as confirmed town you should feel bad.
3) It must be nice playing real newb games instead of this sham where we only have three newbies and people treat this like a normal and ignore them for the most part day one and onward until they want to lynch them.

Good game and good bye
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 14:47 GMT
#1717
Hey look more down talking to the newb poking fun at me using damdreds database I'm glad I won't play again after this.

Yesterday you made it clear it was poe, and you in fact still are stuck on a poe of me and shining and you are trying to shape your ideas around that.

I've given my reads or attempted to start converstions to give them but I don't feel like playing in a game where the inevitable end is staring me in the face while you the confirmed town ignore the other afks or people unwilling to so things instead focusing on the newb who tried this game. Rels scum mvp
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 14:59 GMT
#1721
Are you just stupid rels? Scum reading me for talking about a vigilante when half the game had commented or a portion of it had tried to direct a big shot? SL himself had said I'm shooting someone, that must be tmi....oh wait...

From what I can understand this is lylo and while I really do not care you don't come into lylo with preconceived notions or reads. You treat it like day one and build your reads from scratch again instead of trying to build a narrative that doesn't make people scum.

And no I don't care to give my reads to you.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 15:04 GMT
#1723
Because I don't want to work with you and if you've read my posts today and votes you should be able to mentally pit 2 and 2 together.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 15:09 GMT
#1725
I guess you can't understand simple postings or ignore what I wrote about GB. Oh well to sad.

Good job rels
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 15:19 GMT
#1727
Not all of it no
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 15:25 GMT
#1729
Stop trying to trap me when half the post is about the possibility in scum with GB.

Secondly its pretty laughable that you are being so hypocritical with scum reading me but town reading boxer for moving off moos when if he's scum he could of just stayed put. Obviously if I was scum I wouldn't hard push ever against town Scott
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 15:32 GMT
#1732
Guess
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 15:44 GMT
#1737
Then lynch me and get it over with, you are just tunneled and throwing the game clearing people for things you should clear me for and ignoring any evidence that doesn't apply to your preconceived notion.

You honestly think before game started damdred sat me down and taught me every single thing about mafia? Like terms etc lol
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 15:46 GMT
#1739
Rels scum MVP, ignored a strong case d1 to push a weaker Scott sub case. Ignores everyone not doing things to focus on a newbie who has tried to do things. Clears people for reasoning that should apply to the newbie but continues to tunnel on.

Tries to convince the newb that she is scum.

Profit?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 15:52 GMT
#1741
So as a newb you expect me to

1) Have a read on every person in the game (which I basically had earlier in the game) when almost nobody is doing anything at this point

2) When others are trying to direct big shots ot cop checks its automatically scummy that I did it.

3) Next game just for you remember that mafia generally try to survive rather than being dismissive to town leaders.

4) Damdred says what he wants, who cares what he told me before game start, from my understanding he uses poe exclusively but hates it. But of course he had to teach me all the terminology that's so alignment indicative.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 17:15 GMT
#1746
I hope you enjoy losing games rels, its pretty obvious the reason you are alive is to tunnel myself or shining. And you don't even bother to consider that.

D1 scum isn't scared of a medic save on kelsier who is read town by almost everyone in the thread, but they are scared of a medic save d2 and kill sl?

you decide to tunnel on the newbie who has actually done things this game instead of promise to do things and not deliver, so what I don't know what to fucking do and i'm fucking asking questions of people that they haven't answered, so what.

You don't even consider that you and your preconceived notions are the reason that you are alive.

You know what I wouldn't doubt that Vont and ever are on the same team with the total amount of cares that they have given this game, sure vont would of bus d1 but the total ignoring my case d1 by the "leaders" of town made it not really count.

You still haven't answered what the mafia motivation is for me to totally push off town scott when the lynch was all but inevitable.

You don't even pay attention to how vont read on me "developed" when he is trying to scum read me for the same reasons he town read me or disproving his own town reads.

You don't even care that ever promised activity and doing things but hasn't delivered anything but bitching about being tunneled for 72 hours.

Nothing you have posted makes me lock scum like you think it does, so what if I want to say fuck you that doesn't make me scum and you should know that.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 17:17 GMT
#1747
##unvote
##Vote Vonth


Nobody even explains why or how its mafia motivated for me to try to direct a potential vig shot but its not for others who tried to direct one etc.

This is just stupid. And totally dumb.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 17:24 GMT
#1749
You are taking things that don't make me scum and painting me as scum though, and none of what you said makes me scum just like it doesn't make the others scum. Like you are totally dismissing BF as scum for reasons that you should dismiss me.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 19:22 GMT
#1775
I don't think GB is scum anymore.

Whats the point of GB soft defending me when all she has to do is jump on me and run the lynch out with Rels being tunneled to hell. And ever since coming in and voting in an omgus attempt that looks super scummy.

I'm pretty sure that Vont+ever is a team here, and that GB isn't on this team.

Trust me and join this wagon on Vont or ever i'm up for lynching either. I am really really sure that they are a team
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 19:27 GMT
#1776
I read FecalFeast filter and I generally believe that he is town in this situation.

Rels is town

I really feel like Shining is town still but still shouldn't be the lynch today.

GB I feel like would jump on last mislynch like eversince is doing in this situation

.....

I'm a bad person for poe and going against advice but its how I feel...
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 19:32 GMT
#1778
##Unvote
##Vote Eversince


This is the best lynch today, let me explain why.

Firstly look at my day one case it is still true and good and solid. Says that they don't care if they live or die but does vote against there own wagon instead of on someone they feel is really scummy.

He complains about being tunneled but does little work, throws down a vote on moos d2 after tunneling sl, doesn't really care who the lynch is as long as its not on scum.

Today hops on the easiest lynch that confirmed town+someone says they will sheep. Does not question or do anything just hops on with excuses about how day activity dips.

That doesn't make people sucm he is just trying to find an easy target to get on.

Lynch him with me, d1 we had scum do it.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 19:33 GMT
#1779
On October 25 2015 04:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
"I really feel like Shining is town still but still shouldn't be the lynch today."

lol but
omg scumslip etc


More to the point, though: GB just said "I'm not going to read the game and am going to sheep rels" who is tunneling you super hard, Farah. Then, he says that I am the best lynch. If you are town and you think I am town, how is GB not trying to hop on a mislynch? Yeah he hasn't actually voted yet but I interpret that as waiting for an opening rather than uncertainty


Whats easier for scum, wanting you or jumping with rels on me when ever comes in as well. That's three votes and almost enough to lynch me.

Please FecalFeast trust me and follow me, I was right d1 I can be right now, look at how ever voted me. Its clearly scum motivated. Follow me and we will lynch scum here.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 19:36 GMT
#1782
Please read my case day 1 and what I just posted and look at how she jumps on me.

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 19:58 GMT
#1786
ES had 5 people vote for him I believe, KSC thought he was scum but thought both lynches were good, rels ignored my case. The others were a bit haphazard with LM saying he didn't understand.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 20:00 GMT
#1787
Well I say rels ignored my case, he just thought his on scott was better.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 20:19 GMT
#1790
No I am right on ES I won't case other people when we need to lynch the scum infront of us that we have ignored for three days.

Fecal Feast ES response was that he could understand the case and thought it was ok reason to scum read him. let me find it real fast.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 20:25 GMT
#1791
On October 23 2015 04:09 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 04:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
And why is ever being town read now?


Your eternal tunnel on me is cute. I hope you are way more active on D3 than D2. I didn't want to hang you today because, while misguided, I understood where you were coming from D1. You really did nothing this day. Going into tomorrow, I am not going to roll over and let you hurl bologna at me for no reason.


This is what I meant, town generally knows that they are town. If someone builds a case around me and its wrong I don't say I understand where you coming from d1, you fight that crap 100%. If you are town the case has to be bad not just misguided.

He even calls me misguided and hopes i'm more active, i'm way more active than I was when I was on shift work during the nights. But no interaction nothing that denotes a change in read, just straight vote because of activity.

its not town oriented its scum 100%
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 20:46 GMT
#1795
Nothing you said makes me mafia.

The scum team is Ever, Vont and Boxer. (boxer is poe bad me)

Shining has reasoning why I think hes town just because people disagree with it doesn't make me scum.

GB is town for not going on an easy mislynch in me when he just said he would sheep town rels, if hes scum he takes the town cred lynching me if i'm his scum buddy, if i'm town he hops on and rides it out. Theres no reason to not win the game doing that.

FecalFeast is doing work and trying to think about things, hes town.

Therefore the game is solved.

Good work guys, Fecal, and Glowing bear please follow me.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 21:08 GMT
#1798
Well it seems like you are looking at things plus my #1 scum read just spewed you town at the same time.

Either way I really think we should vote eversince off and go from there.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 24 2015 22:45 GMT
#1800
what did I do that was stupid and scummy again?
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 01:30 GMT
#1822
You guys are idiots once again ignoring the newb who's trying and gave you scum d1. And ignoring everything I say once again.

GB is town its boxer es and vont.

But you can call me a whiny baby or whatever I won't be playing here again 100%.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 01:37 GMT
#1823
GB is a horrible lynch today but whatever its your game to throw.

People have boxer as scum but are voting into his case and his push ie GB. If you think boxer is scum you are doing what he wants and today isn't a day to bus.

Eversince is the right lynch or even boxer. But GB isnt
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 12:46 GMT
#1852
So here's what I think.

GB probably isn't the role blocker, it probably is es.

FF makes the most sense as the blue in this case which means they didn't medic dodge rels and wanted him to tunnel shining/farah at that point. Which means that the way boxer is saccing that they want to kill ff and let rels tunnel tommorow.

We should kill es today, boxer tommorow and in the final lylo whoever is left then we have to discuss GB more than likely.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 13:12 GMT
#1853
"I'm about to sleep from my night shift but a thought just occured too me.

GB can't be scum the way boxer pushes gb totally one second and doesn't blink. But when es gets a real push he sacs.

If he's trying to sac for gb there's no point to pushing him to start with in any real way.

Es is probably rb.

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 14:46 GMT
#1857
In no world does scum fecal feast vote gb move to ever (in your world this is a mislynch) and move back to partner gb before you claimed.

That's not scum trying to end game unless gb isn't scum with ff to you.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 15:02 GMT
#1859
It makes 0 sense for scum boxer to bus scum glowing bear if they have a mislynch in myself early and the proposed team by boxer ever now.

I'm pre try sure gb is town. Ever is the rb and boxer is goon, ff will die tonight and rels will tunnel myself or gb. And scum will consolidate with him and end game.

Its obvious boxer isn't the rb we should try to hit the rb instead of boxer/goon so they have to kill elsewhere.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 15:13 GMT
#1861
It's just the way you are rels, you tunnel on the small things that don't make people scum. This is a legitimate scenario and it's better to go after the rb
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 15:36 GMT
#1863
I'm not Really discrediting you rels, if I'm to be honest I just don't have a great faith in you being able to get off tunnels.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 16:33 GMT
#1865
The funny thing is I'm not jumping on boxer because it's the wrong play lol.

His claim is obviously false but it is what it is.

And I'm probably to harsh on rels, which I apologize for. But you do have a tunnel problem that the slightest thing make you initiate and ignores everything else.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 16:44 GMT
#1868
FF claims first but goes on glowingbear who is the person boxer has pushed all day. Boxer continues to say glowing bear is scum, but counter claims fecal saying he's the doctor.

There's no reason if you know ff is scum and your the doctor to claim in this situation with the rb still alive when your top scum read is still alive.

Its an obvious sacrifice so that the rileblocker who,is probably eversince can live block ff and kill him. I'm nit voting him because either think we kill the other scum,and hope they are the rb.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 16:48 GMT
#1869
I've played the game you haven't ever, and talking about discrediting you've done nothing but either try to pacify me or discredit me.

He's obvious scum gb, rels and fecal give me this lynch and we kill boxer tommorow. We then have to,do figure out last scum.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 16:54 GMT
#1872
Played d3, and you jumped off moos but didn't try to actually push another lynch.

I'm busy sometimes with shift work at the precinct, I can't play mafia when I'm at work due to,the nature of being a cop. Hence why I'm only active during certain points of the day.

Its great though that boxer and ever are hard aligning themselves now.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 16:54 GMT
#1873
And I won't play another game of mafia trust me on that.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 17:08 GMT
#1881
He never reevaluated anything about you gb.

Well he's scum but I'll keep my vote here idc about "cred" I'm on the right lynch.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 17:28 GMT
#1889
On October 26 2015 02:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 02:08 FarahBlackwing wrote:
He never reevaluated anything about you gb.

Well he's scum but I'll keep my vote here idc about "cred" I'm on the right lynch.


Listen.

In my mind, the one very tired of this game, the scum team is Vonthin, Shining and Boxerfred. I have yet to believe Eversince is mafia. If he is mafia, then take out The Shining.

I understand what you told me about Eversince being the Roleblocker and boxerfred sacrificing himself to protect him.

But think of it this way: if you're madia and you have 3 of you alive, wouldn't you risk fake counter claiming so you can get an easy win? In this scenario, there is no "protection". Just a guy trying to win.

If there is this possibility here, then the grounds to read Eversince as the roleblocker falls apart, don't you think?



And you still haven't read anything I posted on ever or the
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 17:31 GMT
#1890
Good Stuff shining posted. Plus confirmed scum boxer says shining is town. (Well what we think is confirmed sxum)
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 17:42 GMT
#1893
On October 21 2015 06:13 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2015 05:23 FarahBlackwing wrote:
What is a bus?

This is the only thing in Farah's filter that makes me worry. Literally the only thing. Her cases are good, she makes a town-as-fuck appearance to me but this questions is really - dumb. You can even google that shit and I assume that whoever is nerdy enough to play here is able to use google. Still I'm not getting that tinfoilhat off of my head.


Why protect someone you are worried about and tinfoiling
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 18:00 GMT
#1896
That is in context, you clearly town read me but are willing to tinfoil. That doesn't add up to protecting someone.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 18:17 GMT
#1899
Boxer just said I was town.

That's good at least.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 18:27 GMT
#1902
It's implied I'm town because he said I'm doing the same thing rels would do in my scenario ie a town tunneling a town and mafia would converge on them.

Obviously if he thought I was scum it wouldn't be that.

But yeah Vont is probably scum ever as well.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:15 GMT
#1914
I'll consolidate.

##unvote
##Vote boxer


The only problem with a gb, ever and bf is that bf wouldn't sac when both are up for lynch. I don't think the team works to a point.

Vont looks more like trying to get town cred and boxer always scum read him but never really pushed. I think they are super likely togwther
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:22 GMT
#1918
So rels tunnels on Farah shining like he had done that night with sl?
I've answered that a few times already
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:27 GMT
#1922
On October 26 2015 04:24 Vonthin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 04:19 GlowingBear wrote:
Let me ask you guys a question. A nice one.

If the setup is veteran and vigi, why does mafia shoot SL instead of Rels?


SLs main scum reads were myself and Farah who are both town. Killing SL will give the scum more ammo to lynch us today so they can win the game.


Why am I town ow after you said I'm scum all day.

Slip slip
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:30 GMT
#1924
Then why didn't they medic dodge ksc who was the towniest person d1.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:38 GMT
#1939
No your wrong gb.

##unvote
##Vote boxerfred
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:39 GMT
#1942
Ff could I convince you and maybe Vont_(maybe I'm just wrong on him) to switch to ever kill them then kill boxer tommorow
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:42 GMT
#1946
I 100% believe fecal feast over boxer. Nothing makes sense from boxer it does from ff.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:43 GMT
#1947
Can we at least kill ever next for me? Since I've been pushing since d1: (
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:46 GMT
#1953
But who will listen if we takeover out the rb tonight they can never kill ff and they can't risk keeping bf alive if ff lies.
)
So we get a ton more info let's do it
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:47 GMT
#1955
Like if bf is alive tommorow it isa scum claim the only way they can not is if they hold a shot which gains us a lynch
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:47 GMT
#1956
Then vote ever gb and force the scum team to kill th real one or give us a lynch
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:48 GMT
#1958
Sh
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:49 GMT
#1962
All we need is on more ff for auto majority. Me you shining would,move. We need someone else to make sure
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:50 GMT
#1964
Shining is on ever we just need one
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:53 GMT
#1968
Shining stay where you are we night go to ever.

If the game is over the game is over gb go to ever or the game ends anyway
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:53 GMT
#1970
Ff move to ever we can do this with everyone ask like this please we can let's go
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:55 GMT
#1974
We move to ever since if we are right and it's gb boxer and ever we have majority with three anyway if Vont goes to you me you shining move back
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:55 GMT
#1977
Please ff just trust me once this game.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:56 GMT
#1980
Ff if you don't go with me I'll move on my own and let mafia team end the game
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 19:58 GMT
#1984
##unvote
##Vote eversince

This is it follow me
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 20:00 GMT
#1990
Please move make scum shoot between bf and ff
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 25 2015 20:24 GMT
#2010
I'm slightly disappointed but not to much ever tommorow and we will see then.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 26 2015 15:37 GMT
#2044
Then proove it? Its obvious shining thinks its vont+ever.

I'm torn between vont/ever and glowingbear/ever.

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 26 2015 16:28 GMT
#2050
Glowing bear is right in that it doesn't make a lot of sense in that situation with scum mate afk to push the other lynch when confirmed rels was staying put with the others.

Hrm, will think on it after sushi
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 26 2015 19:43 GMT
#2062
The problem in this scenario is to save his partner he has to cc the person who hasn't claimed yet when the entire day he's done nothing but push gb

If fecal hadn't of claims he has no one to cc doesn't make sense
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 26 2015 19:47 GMT
#2063
And well fecal could answer better but a lot of the ge was hovering with voting ever to so could go either way

FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 26 2015 21:59 GMT
#2074
Ty for the game
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