how anyone can scum read scott off his 3 posts is mind blogging, Does he have a history of a history of not playing as scum? because I know he often never posts as town. I could very well lynch him because I have alot of other town reads but its a pretty random one.
Vonthin on the other hand might be scum alot more of the time. He has more posts that are mostly filler except his weak list post. unlike scott He might have a history of making alot of posts as town (he only has 6) somoone should look into that.
On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak.
Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old.
I decide to have a bit of fun as GB was my Mafia partner in the game where I doubled bused my partners. As a result, I ask him as a joke if I can bus him this game. GB understands the joke and says that I should say it in the QT. As a continuation of the joke I say it's too late and remark that I'll be confirmed town after the "bus" and then vote for GB.
Just was making sure - Thank you.
REALLY BRO ? YOU REMARKED HE WAS JOKING AND YOU WERE JUST MAKING SURE ??? THAT S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT READING YOUR POSTS. NOT.
On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak.
On October 19 2015 02:54 KelsierSC wrote: scott can you explain what you meant with this post
On October 18 2015 07:35 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:
On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak.
Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old.
I decide to have a bit of fun as GB was my Mafia partner in the game where I doubled bused my partners. As a result, I ask him as a joke if I can bus him this game. GB understands the joke and says that I should say it in the QT. As a continuation of the joke I say it's too late and remark that I'll be confirmed town after the "bus" and then vote for GB.
Just was making sure - Thank you.
To Shining on the GB read - a bit of meta (I've guessed him correctly the last three games) - a bit of playfulness and making sense. I mean I didn't like Kelsier's entrance persay either, but I was going to wait until later in the day to see if he shows up. I didn't see anything else really worth pointing out when I read the thread.
I am unsure which part you mean so I'll break it all down. I wanted Moosy to explain his vote on GB, and he did so. I know all about the shit double bus very well.
Loving how scott completely missed the accusation against him, which is him saying "just making sure - thank you" when he didn't show he thought the vote was a joke in the first place. Probably scum. ##Vote scott31337
well he didnt post that much but he had no fluff posts and he certainly didnt open like that. his opening was heavilty coached either by scum or town i have no idea. No one free flow posts like that
On October 19 2015 22:42 sicklucker wrote: well he didnt post that much but he had no fluff posts and he certainly didnt open like that. his opening was heavilty coached either by scum or town i have no idea. No one free flow posts like that
Just letting you know you obtained day 1 100% townread status for this post. Congratz. I know it means a lot for you.
On October 19 2015 22:44 sicklucker wrote: like he starts with scott "easy town read"
then he follows up on the next guy "not much to read on" like you could have used that on scott lol. Then he just lists the two easy people as scum
mm OK. I know as scum I had a hard time listing multiple people as potential scum, as I didn't want them to suspect me. So I'm thinking a newbie scum wouldn't list 3 people as scum in his first serious post. Maybe I'm underestimating him though.
On October 19 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote: my moosy read sucks I agree but I still think he's scum, boom. he's doing the same spammy shit he did when we played together. kelsier/farah town. sicklucker hasn't done batshit but oneliners but if i remember correctly, it's not scum indicative for him. dunnno how kelsier townreads him off of that but he does. eversince's post on kelsier is shit, those quotations are kinda standalone and feel tryhard. that makes me townread him.
##vote lonemeow
Enters thread in defense of GB, then votes kelsier for no reason. Goes on to interact with Rels, doesn't follow up.
On October 18 2015 21:32 LoneMeow wrote: GlowingBear is Top town for me right now, not only did he get the game to move on from the "joke" phase but there's also this:
On October 18 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote: There is no such thing as "deciding a meta". You play to win and that's all.
This is town thinking.
As for the FarahBlackwing, there's a ParanOid scenario I can see where the whole thing was orchestrated in advance but that's not relevant for now, I suppose. Unflipped players and all that.
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote: GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that Has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.
Why wouldn't he make a list post? Some reads are needed to get the "serious" phase of the game started, I don't quite see that list post being scum motivated at all.
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote: His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above. The Rest of his list doesn't make logical Sense to me but again that is typical GB. I WanT to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.
So the read is wrong (ie. he's town misreading) but you'd WanT to lynch him (ie. he's scum)? What?
again where did I say he was town?
reading is really hard for some people.
If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.
This is constructed bullshit. In the context of that conversation, start of D1, there's no way for that kind of thinking. It's constructed and puts pressure on KSC for the sake of, well, pressuring, while still leaving the vote without any reasons. Stirring up chaos and setting up a potential mislynch.
On October 18 2015 21:32 LoneMeow wrote: GlowingBear is top town for me right now, not only did he get the game to move on from the "joke" phase but there's also this:
[quote]
This is town thinking.
As for the FarahBlackwing, there's a paranoid scenario I can see where the whole thing was orchestrated in advance but that's not relevant for now, I suppose. Unflipped players and all that.
[quote]
Why wouldn't he make a list post? Some reads are needed to get the "serious" phase of the game started, I don't quite see that list post being scum motivated at all.
[quote]
So the read is wrong (ie. he's town misreading) but you'd want to lynch him (ie. he's scum)? What?
again where did I say he was town?
reading is really hard for some people.
If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.
no it just says he is wrong.
Okay, so why exactly is he scum? Why was the list post bad at the time it was made, besides being a list post? To me it seems much more like town mentality to try to get the game moving in a more serious direction after the "joke phase" as some call it.
how is this of any value if you already decided he was town?
I'm interested in your alignment, and you explaining your though process and logic helps in that.
then why vote me before asking?
Vote is also a tool to provoke reactions.
Why do you not want to help me figure out your alignment?
So he provoked a reaction from Kelsier. Now that the wagon kind of started, he's nowhere to be seen. So all we have is a push on kelsier because "well I can and a vote is pressure". That feels like scum stirring up chaos to me.
Before we go any further into this, I want to know: a) Have you read the entire thread or just skimmed some parts? b) What's your read on Rels and why?
On October 19 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote: my moosy read sucks I agree but I still think he's scum, boom. he's doing the same spammy shit he did when we played together. kelsier/farah town. sicklucker hasn't done batshit but oneliners but if i remember correctly, it's not scum indicative for him. dunnno how kelsier townreads him off of that but he does. eversince's post on kelsier is shit, those quotations are kinda standalone and feel tryhard. that makes me townread him.
##vote lonemeow
Enters thread in defense of GB, then votes kelsier for no reason. Goes on to interact with Rels, doesn't follow up.
On October 18 2015 21:49 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:32 LoneMeow wrote: GlowingBear is Top town for me right now, not only did he get the game to move on from the "joke" phase but there's also this:
On October 18 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote: There is no such thing as "deciding a meta". You play to win and that's all.
This is town thinking.
As for the FarahBlackwing, there's a ParanOid scenario I can see where the whole thing was orchestrated in advance but that's not relevant for now, I suppose. Unflipped players and all that.
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote: GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that Has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.
Why wouldn't he make a list post? Some reads are needed to get the "serious" phase of the game started, I don't quite see that list post being scum motivated at all.
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote: His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above. The Rest of his list doesn't make logical Sense to me but again that is typical GB. I WanT to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.
So the read is wrong (ie. he's town misreading) but you'd WanT to lynch him (ie. he's scum)? What?
again where did I say he was town?
reading is really hard for some people.
If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.
This is constructed bullshit. In the context of that conversation, start of D1, there's no way for that kind of thinking. It's constructed and puts pressure on KSC for the sake of, well, pressuring, while still leaving the vote without any reasons. Stirring up chaos and setting up a potential mislynch.
On October 18 2015 22:06 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:58 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:54 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:53 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:51 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:49 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:46 KelsierSC wrote: [quote]
again where did I say he was town?
reading is really hard for some people.
If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.
no it just says he is wrong.
Okay, so why exactly is he scum? Why was the list post bad at the time it was made, besides being a list post? To me it seems much more like town mentality to try to get the game moving in a more serious direction after the "joke phase" as some call it.
how is this of any value if you already decided he was town?
I'm interested in your alignment, and you explaining your though process and logic helps in that.
then why vote me before asking?
Vote is also a tool to provoke reactions.
Why do you not want to help me figure out your alignment?
So he provoked a reaction from Kelsier. Now that the wagon kind of started, he's nowhere to be seen. So all we have is a push on kelsier because "well I can and a vote is pressure". That feels like scum stirring up chaos to me.
Before we go any further into this, I want to know: a) Have you read the entire thread or just skimmed some parts? b) What's your read on Rels and why?
On October 19 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote: my moosy read sucks I agree but I still think he's scum, boom. he's doing the same spammy shit he did when we played together. kelsier/farah town. sicklucker hasn't done batshit but oneliners but if i remember correctly, it's not scum indicative for him. dunnno how kelsier townreads him off of that but he does. eversince's post on kelsier is shit, those quotations are kinda standalone and feel tryhard. that makes me townread him.
##vote lonemeow
Enters thread in defense of GB, then votes kelsier for no reason. Goes on to interact with Rels, doesn't follow up.
On October 18 2015 21:49 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:32 LoneMeow wrote: GlowingBear is Top town for me right now, not only did he get the game to move on from the "joke" phase but there's also this:
On October 18 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote: There is no such thing as "deciding a meta". You play to win and that's all.
This is town thinking.
As for the FarahBlackwing, there's a ParanOid scenario I can see where the whole thing was orchestrated in advance but that's not relevant for now, I suppose. Unflipped players and all that.
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote: GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that Has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.
Why wouldn't he make a list post? Some reads are needed to get the "serious" phase of the game started, I don't quite see that list post being scum motivated at all.
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote: His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above. The Rest of his list doesn't make logical Sense to me but again that is typical GB. I WanT to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.
So the read is wrong (ie. he's town misreading) but you'd WanT to lynch him (ie. he's scum)? What?
again where did I say he was town?
reading is really hard for some people.
If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.
This is constructed bullshit. In the context of that conversation, start of D1, there's no way for that kind of thinking. It's constructed and puts pressure on KSC for the sake of, well, pressuring, while still leaving the vote without any reasons. Stirring up chaos and setting up a potential mislynch.
On October 18 2015 22:06 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:58 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:54 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:53 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:51 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:49 LoneMeow wrote: [quote]
If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.
no it just says he is wrong.
Okay, so why exactly is he scum? Why was the list post bad at the time it was made, besides being a list post? To me it seems much more like town mentality to try to get the game moving in a more serious direction after the "joke phase" as some call it.
how is this of any value if you already decided he was town?
I'm interested in your alignment, and you explaining your though process and logic helps in that.
then why vote me before asking?
Vote is also a tool to provoke reactions.
Why do you not want to help me figure out your alignment?
So he provoked a reaction from Kelsier. Now that the wagon kind of started, he's nowhere to be seen. So all we have is a push on kelsier because "well I can and a vote is pressure". That feels like scum stirring up chaos to me.
Before we go any further into this, I want to know: a) Have you read the entire thread or just skimmed some parts? b) What's your read on Rels and why?
Can you answer the same question pretty please ?
I skimmed some MoosyDoosy's posts, for some reason they give me a headache.
And I read you as fairly strong town lean. I like the posts where you refuted Eversince's case on KelsierSC and the points on the MoosyDoosy/Vonthin affair.
I'm not sure I agree on MoosyDoosy being scum though, there are some posts that seem fairly emotional in a way that I think would be hard to emulate as scum. For example this:
On October 19 2015 09:32 MoosyDoosy wrote: I kind of want to be lynched just to see boxerfred's reaction. Him thinking he can read me off of one game is pretty funny.
What do you make of boxerfred's switch from me to scott31337?
On October 19 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote: my moosy read sucks I agree but I still think he's scum, boom. he's doing the same spammy shit he did when we played together. kelsier/farah town. sicklucker hasn't done batshit but oneliners but if i remember correctly, it's not scum indicative for him. dunnno how kelsier townreads him off of that but he does. eversince's post on kelsier is shit, those quotations are kinda standalone and feel tryhard. that makes me townread him.
##vote lonemeow
Enters thread in defense of GB, then votes kelsier for no reason. Goes on to interact with Rels, doesn't follow up.
On October 18 2015 21:49 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:32 LoneMeow wrote: GlowingBear is Top town for me right now, not only did he get the game to move on from the "joke" phase but there's also this:
On October 18 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote: There is no such thing as "deciding a meta". You play to win and that's all.
This is town thinking.
As for the FarahBlackwing, there's a ParanOid scenario I can see where the whole thing was orchestrated in advance but that's not relevant for now, I suppose. Unflipped players and all that.
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote: GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that Has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.
Why wouldn't he make a list post? Some reads are needed to get the "serious" phase of the game started, I don't quite see that list post being scum motivated at all.
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote: His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above. The Rest of his list doesn't make logical Sense to me but again that is typical GB. I WanT to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.
So the read is wrong (ie. he's town misreading) but you'd WanT to lynch him (ie. he's scum)? What?
again where did I say he was town?
reading is really hard for some people.
If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.
This is constructed bullshit. In the context of that conversation, start of D1, there's no way for that kind of thinking. It's constructed and puts pressure on KSC for the sake of, well, pressuring, while still leaving the vote without any reasons. Stirring up chaos and setting up a potential mislynch.
On October 18 2015 22:06 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:58 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:54 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:53 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:51 KelsierSC wrote: [quote]
no it just says he is wrong.
Okay, so why exactly is he scum? Why was the list post bad at the time it was made, besides being a list post? To me it seems much more like town mentality to try to get the game moving in a more serious direction after the "joke phase" as some call it.
how is this of any value if you already decided he was town?
I'm interested in your alignment, and you explaining your though process and logic helps in that.
then why vote me before asking?
Vote is also a tool to provoke reactions.
Why do you not want to help me figure out your alignment?
So he provoked a reaction from Kelsier. Now that the wagon kind of started, he's nowhere to be seen. So all we have is a push on kelsier because "well I can and a vote is pressure". That feels like scum stirring up chaos to me.
Before we go any further into this, I want to know: a) Have you read the entire thread or just skimmed some parts? b) What's your read on Rels and why?
Can you answer the same question pretty please ?
I skimmed some MoosyDoosy's posts, for some reason they give me a headache.
So when you answered BF's posts above, you had already read the whole thread ?
On October 19 2015 23:45 LoneMeow wrote: And I read you as fairly strong town lean. I like the posts where you refuted Eversince's case on KelsierSC and the points on the MoosyDoosy/Vonthin affair.
I'm not sure I agree on MoosyDoosy being scum though, there are some posts that seem fairly emotional in a way that I think would be hard to emulate as scum. For example this:
On October 19 2015 09:32 MoosyDoosy wrote: I kind of want to be lynched just to see boxerfred's reaction. Him thinking he can read me off of one game is pretty funny.
What do you make of boxerfred's switch from me to scott31337?
Nothing alignment indicative about the switch. I noticed that his arguments for scumreading you were super bad though. Don't you think ?
On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote: And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...
I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.
Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.
Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.
Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?
I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.
Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list?
This is a big post that says nothing at all really. Farah read is the most generic thing I've seen in a while. Second paragraph is all filler. The most telling point in it is the Moosy read. He's capable of caring so much that he'll buss his entire team to win. The fact that he's not caring this game doesn't bother me though. Yeh, how does that statement make any sense at all unless you already know what alignment Moosy is?
Seems a bit interesting on the surface except shining has been getting a bit of attention from most of the thread. It also lacks some of the context that is going on at that time in the thread. On its own its not a big deal and with follow up it could be good.
On October 19 2015 04:55 Eversince wrote: Also there is so much wrong with what Fecal just did. Just nooo.
And then Eversince immediately jumps to putting some shade onto FecalFeast. But then does ask Shining about his 180 on GB.
On October 19 2015 04:56 Eversince wrote: Oh goodies, while your here Shining, why the 180 on GB?
Oh this ought to b fun. Please do explain my 180 on GB since I have no idea what you're talking about.
Prior to that list post you where calling people out for town reading GB implying you didn't have one. What lead you to that town read?
After this shining answers again but Eversince ignores him and never even goes back to his scum read on him instead choosing to focus on FF and Kelsier. In context and with shinings answer it does seem like Eversince isn't reading the thread as thoroughly as they could be.
His tift with me comes down to how he is reading FecalFeast, when pressed for a better explanation these posts were the response.
On October 19 2015 04:55 Eversince wrote: Also there is so much wrong with what Fecal just did. Just nooo.
Why not explain a bit more?
Sure! He's done squat all this game. Then randomly pops in to say if the current lynch isn't town he'll eat a hat. So confident in his read but doesn't care to explain why or how he came into that read. I think that's the first read he even has this game.
On October 19 2015 05:35 Eversince wrote: What are Fecals reads Farah? Other than Kelsier is, unexplaied, town?
On October 19 2015 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote: Ksc is town ir I'll eat my hat. Farah seems towny to me but newbs posting at all get on my good side. Not liking sicklucker tbh, he's going to say i always scum him but i feel it for real this time.
Gb is not making me praise him but I'd call him null atm. There was another newbie who posted a shitty list that keeps getting quoted i didn't like that list.
I'm in bed on my phone and don't feel like filtering at all
On October 19 2015 05:35 Eversince wrote: What are Fecals reads Farah? Other than Kelsier is, unexplaied, town?
On October 19 2015 05:28 Fecalfeast wrote: Can you point out some actual posts and what you find scummy about them? Specifically how his questioning of moose was scummy rather than towny
You ignored my request for actual scummy posts
I'm not ignoring it. It takes time to post thoughts on two pages of filter. Time, you'll get my thoughts about it soon.
On October 19 2015 04:38 Fecalfeast wrote: Ksc is town ir I'll eat my hat. Farah seems towny to me but newbs posting at all get on my good side. Not liking sicklucker tbh, he's going to say i always scum him but i feel it for real this time.
Gb is not making me praise him but I'd call him null atm. There was another newbie who posted a shitty list that keeps getting quoted i didn't like that list.
I'm in bed on my phone and don't feel like filtering at all
Town: Ksc Fatah
Null GB
Scum Sl The other newb
And why does he have any of those reads?
Why don't you ask him?
Why ask this and not just tell me? I mean it's pretty obvious I'd like to know. It's important for Farah, because you haven't done it at all yet. When I made my first post on you, you had 3 post. 2 completely filler post followed with that.
On October 19 2015 05:56 Fecalfeast wrote: Ok and does my not explaining my reads to your satisfaction make me scum?
Yeh, it looks kind of bad.
'kind of bad'
come on give it to me! I want something with real emotion! Why am I scum? You started posting right around the same time as I came back to thread, why is my inactivity with NAI excuses worse than your inactivity? Why is my goading you for fun scummy when I missed the fun joke around phase?
Who would you kill if you had a gun right now?
You. Your not worth a lynch. Not playing the game sadly doesn't make you scum. Refusing to give a reason to have the reads you have might but until you actually start playing that might be difficult to figure out.
Now in this mess of quotes is the sequence of events. Tries to put scum on FecalFeast for unexplained reads does not seek to understand where the reads come from only try to make him look scummy, when he is confronted/pressured to explain his stance he does to some degree. Still thinks FecalFeast is scummy by the end of interactions but thinks that FecalFeast isn't worth a lynch because he isn't "playing".
His interactions with Kel are just as strange, loads up the argument he has with moosdoosy and writes a narrative to explain why it is scummy but when hes confronted by Kelsier if all of his posts are scummy he is answered that some of his posts Eversince likes, but votes him anyway.
I think hes scum but heres a condensed version.
TLDR: 1) Only comes into the thread to fling discord and soft push people to see what would take off. You can see this within the posts on Shining, FecalFeast and Kelsier (who he settles on) 2) There is a lack of curiosity and trying to figure out peoples alignments, we see this with how he reacts to FF reads instead of trying to figure out why he has the reads that he does. Instead he latches on and tries to paint him as scummy as can be without even asking why until all the people who are active including FecalFeast tells him to ask Fecal why he had those reads. 3) Seems to not be reading the thread at a decent clip, for example his ribbing of shining about the generic read on myself. He was one of the first people to post that reasoning so it can't really be generic. It also seems like he didn't read FecalFeast read post or some of the context in the kelsier posts. 4) Forgetting scum reads to move onto another, look at how he handles the shining and it seems like hes coming out of the gates to scum him, but has no real interaction with him to a point. And even though shining is here ignores him after one response when there is valuable information to be gained. Does nothing with the scum lean but settle on other people. 5) Uneven treatment of Kelsier posting, He weighs the "fight" or questioning of Moosdoosy by Kelsier heavier than the rest of the filter trying to make him look like scum.
I think we have found scum and I invite everyone to vote Eversince with me ##Vote Eversince
On October 19 2015 22:08 MoosyDoosy wrote: Like I've already explained why I responded the way I did. I didn't read the thread properly so didn't want to give a proper answer before I evaluated things but Kels was a bum and kept pressing me to go into what I was doing in real life to explain why I wasn't re-evaluating things. That's basically it lol.
That's not what you first said though. You said and quoted and proved that you put Vonthin from townlean to null for his list post. Only after you said you didn't take the time to read his list post. So either you're changing your story, or you're saying you put Vonthin from townlean to null for a post you didn't read.
smh I said I skimmed it and it struck an odd chord so I dropped him and resolved to look into it later. good job at reading comprehension for the tenth game Rels.
On October 19 2015 22:08 MoosyDoosy wrote: Like I've already explained why I responded the way I did. I didn't read the thread properly so didn't want to give a proper answer before I evaluated things but Kels was a bum and kept pressing me to go into what I was doing in real life to explain why I wasn't re-evaluating things. That's basically it lol.
That's not what you first said though. You said and quoted and proved that you put Vonthin from townlean to null for his list post. Only after you said you didn't take the time to read his list post. So either you're changing your story, or you're saying you put Vonthin from townlean to null for a post you didn't read.
smh I said I skimmed it and it struck an odd chord so I dropped him and resolved to look into it later. good job at reading comprehension for the tenth game Rels.
LOL you're so scum. Keep defending yourself instead of scumhunting bro. Or even reading the post you said you would read like 20 hours ago. Eversince is probably scum too, the case above is solid. scott is 99% scum. Man is this game really that easy ?
YOU WILL ALL DROP WHAT YOU RE DOING RIGHT NOW TO LISTEN TO THIS FUCKING THING
On October 19 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote: my moosy read sucks I agree but I still think he's scum, boom. he's doing the same spammy shit he did when we played together. kelsier/farah town. sicklucker hasn't done batshit but oneliners but if i remember correctly, it's not scum indicative for him. dunnno how kelsier townreads him off of that but he does. eversince's post on kelsier is shit, those quotations are kinda standalone and feel tryhard. that makes me townread him.
##vote lonemeow
Enters thread in defense of GB, then votes kelsier for no reason. Goes on to interact with Rels, doesn't follow up.
On October 18 2015 21:49 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:46 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:32 LoneMeow wrote: GlowingBear is Top town for me right now, not only did he get the game to move on from the "joke" phase but there's also this:
On October 18 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote: There is no such thing as "deciding a meta". You play to win and that's all.
This is town thinking.
As for the FarahBlackwing, there's a ParanOid scenario I can see where the whole thing was orchestrated in advance but that's not relevant for now, I suppose. Unflipped players and all that.
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote: GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that Has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.
Why wouldn't he make a list post? Some reads are needed to get the "serious" phase of the game started, I don't quite see that list post being scum motivated at all.
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote: His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above. The Rest of his list doesn't make logical Sense to me but again that is typical GB. I WanT to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.
So the read is wrong (ie. he's town misreading) but you'd WanT to lynch him (ie. he's scum)? What?
again where did I say he was town?
reading is really hard for some people.
If his read on you is wrong then you are clearly implying he's town. Scum doesn't have "right" or "wrong" reads.
This is constructed bullshit. In the context of that conversation, start of D1, there's no way for that kind of thinking. It's constructed and puts pressure on KSC for the sake of, well, pressuring, while still leaving the vote without any reasons. Stirring up chaos and setting up a potential mislynch.
On October 18 2015 22:06 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:59 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:58 LoneMeow wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:54 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 18 2015 21:53 LoneMeow wrote: [quote]
Okay, so why exactly is he scum? Why was the list post bad at the time it was made, besides being a list post? To me it seems much more like town mentality to try to get the game moving in a more serious direction after the "joke phase" as some call it.
how is this of any value if you already decided he was town?
I'm interested in your alignment, and you explaining your though process and logic helps in that.
then why vote me before asking?
Vote is also a tool to provoke reactions.
Why do you not want to help me figure out your alignment?
So he provoked a reaction from Kelsier. Now that the wagon kind of started, he's nowhere to be seen. So all we have is a push on kelsier because "well I can and a vote is pressure". That feels like scum stirring up chaos to me.
Before we go any further into this, I want to know: a) Have you read the entire thread or just skimmed some parts? b) What's your read on Rels and why?
Can you answer the same question pretty please ?
I skimmed some MoosyDoosy's posts, for some reason they give me a headache.
So when you answered BF's posts above, you had already read the whole thread ?
I started writing it before I had finished but posted it after.
On October 19 2015 23:45 LoneMeow wrote: And I read you as fairly strong town lean. I like the posts where you refuted Eversince's case on KelsierSC and the points on the MoosyDoosy/Vonthin affair.
I'm not sure I agree on MoosyDoosy being scum though, there are some posts that seem fairly emotional in a way that I think would be hard to emulate as scum. For example this:
On October 19 2015 09:32 MoosyDoosy wrote: I kind of want to be lynched just to see boxerfred's reaction. Him thinking he can read me off of one game is pretty funny.
What do you make of boxerfred's switch from me to scott31337?
Nothing alignment indicative about the switch. I noticed that his arguments for scumreading you were super bad though. Don't you think ?
To me the switch seemed kind of opportunistic, like he was trying to push me and then just jumped to someone else when that didn't stick. Note how all the reasons he uses to call scott31337 scum are already out when he makes his case on me - so it frankly doesn't make sense to me that he'd case me first, then just jump off like that.
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