On October 24 2015 00:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm gonna sheep marv/rayn. Hoping yamato/onegu show up because they said they would eventually.

##vote: Alakaslam

You still think this?

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

October 23 2015 17:11 GMT

#1082

On October 24 2015 02:03 Vivax wrote:
But rayn and marv are arrogant, I don't see the value in reinventing the wheel there.

The way they are arrogant this game should be telling.

Kill them if I go. Why are you voting me?

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

October 23 2015 17:14 GMT

#1083

Greeting my friends.

Never fear Onegu is here.

reading now

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 23 2015 17:17 GMT

#1084

Besides I think it was GB who brought up the meta on me (mainly my differences in posting activity). I think that's a townie action overall.

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

October 23 2015 17:17 GMT

#1085

On October 24 2015 02:06 Xatalos wrote:
Meh, actually Onegu's filter isn't really suspicious. Even though it's useless. I think both rayn and Chromatically would give a better chance of hitting scum, mostly rayn.

uselss is scummy ) :

I dont like using meta vs players who are fairly useless regularly. Meta is a tool best used vs a player who is really active because over time provided they haven't vastly changed their personality, their habits should show through (hard to avoid it with 20 plus page filters). Shit players usually are much less hard pressed to recreate thier bad play cause it's just far less work. My whole scum strat is to recreate my town self's bad habits, and I can tell you for a fact it's far bloody easier to simulate lurkshoe then actshoe.

Useless=scummy one way or another. I have literally seen good players go into thier mafia qt and do the following "so I'm gonna lurk till my lynch day, then i'll show up and say I was indisposed, no one will lynch me cause that would look too bad out of maf" AND WE DIDN'T FUCKIN LYNCH HIM.

Between slam and Rayn, I wanna lynch neither. Unless my vote is absolutely required I wont be voting for them / :

I dont read chrom as particularly bad anymore their but I will go over his filter once more before dead line to be sure.

Vivax

22406 Posts

October 23 2015 17:21 GMT

#1086

Chrom bothers me actually, he posts as if he had a broom up his arse, regardless of the content.

Vivax

22406 Posts

October 23 2015 17:32 GMT

#1087

Looks like blazingham is afkteak so he will probably ketchup after the lunch

Vivax

22406 Posts

October 23 2015 17:32 GMT

#1088

Yes Im bored

yamato77

11589 Posts

October 23 2015 17:34 GMT

#1089

I have arrived

Vivax

22406 Posts

October 23 2015 17:36 GMT

#1090

On October 24 2015 02:34 yamato77 wrote:
I have arrived

Not a carrier, just a shitty arbiter still

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

October 23 2015 17:38 GMT

#1091

On October 24 2015 02:34 yamato77 wrote:
I have arrived

when your done catching up, tell me what ya think of slam, read into chrom too plz : D

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

October 23 2015 17:40 GMT

#1092

On October 24 2015 01:55 gumshoe wrote:
Can we just collectively agree to pussy out as town and vote for the most objectively useless player?

Onegu, 2015

Nope sorry my friend better luck next time!!!!

yamato77

11589 Posts

October 23 2015 17:53 GMT

#1093

hm

slam not a terrible lynch given his insistence on being "unreadable"

I think as town he becomes indignant and actually mad if people try to lynch him, this seems more like a mafia tactic.

I don't necessarily disagree that GB looks better but I'm rather hesitant to sleep on the idea of lynching him entirely.

Rayn is just not mafia here I don't think. Unless he is mafia with marv and they both successfully pocketed me. I doubt this though, because literally everyone thinks I am town now so lol.

I don't really want to lynch Onegu but I admittedly haven't read his probably short filter either.

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

October 23 2015 17:55 GMT

#1094

On October 24 2015 02:53 yamato77 wrote:
hm

slam not a terrible lynch given his insistence on being "unreadable"

I think as town he becomes indignant and actually mad if people try to lynch him, this seems more like a mafia tactic.

I don't necessarily disagree that GB looks better but I'm rather hesitant to sleep on the idea of lynching him entirely.

Rayn is just not mafia here I don't think. Unless he is mafia with marv and they both successfully pocketed me. I doubt this though, because literally everyone thinks I am town now so lol.

I don't really want to lynch Onegu but I admittedly haven't read his probably short filter either.

so who do you want to lynch?

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

October 23 2015 17:55 GMT

#1095

So after catching up.

Marv is more active but still useless... Like really the best a town marv has is pushing a slam lynch. I guess he pushes GB. Hrmmm guess that is alot more than his last few games.

I think gumshoe is falling into the onegu rule.

Rayn is like 90% of his town meta.

Yamato did some stuff looked townie.

GB rolled my RnG.

Havent seen BH again since the start. IIRC he had some reads other than his RnG lynch. Townish I think.

Hopeless said he was going to lynch me for being useless I told him good luck, he didnt bite at the bait. Not looking good. IE rels in rayns game.

I have forever given up on attempting to read slam. Would lynch or wouldnt lynch. Not really top priority.

Xata many reads, big filter. he is like 99% town. Rayn my friend you should get off of this one.

UMMM... Who else.... Oh chrome completely forgettable. Scum read.

Vivax will trust yamato's read on him for now.

Ummm.....

No more Mabs or Town! since my rant post it must have worked.

Damn I am good at this game.

You all call me useless but then you all know my reads are normally right on. Unless they are completely wrong. It is never a mix of right and wrong. And I am more right than wrong.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

October 23 2015 17:56 GMT

#1096

You better not lynch me because I have pocketed you with ramen and red bull from Thailand.

Onegu

United States9699 Posts

October 23 2015 17:56 GMT

#1097

That is 11 people I am missing someone...

gumshoe

Canada3602 Posts

October 23 2015 17:57 GMT

#1098

Also what was it that made gj look better to you Yamato?

yamato77

11589 Posts

October 23 2015 17:57 GMT

#1099

On October 23 2015 23:50 Chromatically wrote:

Show nested quote +

On October 23 2015 23:24 marvellosity wrote:

On October 23 2015 23:20 Xatalos wrote:

On October 23 2015 23:08 marvellosity wrote:
my reasoning was that you're a bit of a pussy as mafia and it would be much easier for you just to townread me when if you are mafia you know there is a 0% chance of me ever getting lynched.

the fact you pushed me before under similar circumstances weakens that as a heuristic though

although i doubt you'd make the same mistake twice

Btw can you really say I'm a pussy as scum after that game where I and Artanis bussed each other all game?

That was fun.

yes, bussing each other is pussy way out because it means you don't have the balls to tunnel a townie

gonna have to try meta Chrome at some point. My evening cleared up (i was gonna be afk all weekend and spring that on you guys when i finished work, but my plans fell through)

On October 22 2015 13:59 Chromatically wrote:
Alright yamato is off the lynch list for me. I have a hard time seeing him faking anger about getting scumread by people for this and I don't think he's just making up his reasoning there as mafia. Both of those last posts feel really town to me.

On October 23 2015 00:26 Chromatically wrote:
I don't really see why GB is mafia for that read rather than it just being a bad read.

On October 23 2015 02:47 Chromatically wrote:

On October 23 2015 02:41 marvellosity wrote:
pretty hard to shake my townfeels on rayn when he comes into the thread saying he has 2 townreads and no mafiareads when at that point i had 2 townreads and no mafiareads and the 2 townreads were the same as mine.

I like this post a lot, I get a strong town feeling from this.

I don't like any of these posts much. I don't think the anger thing is a good reason to townread yamato. I made an unexplained punt vote on GB and it reads as a bit of a weird defence. I'm also not sure that Chrome should be getting strong townfeels from the post i made rather than others/the whole body of play.

Also have this nagging feeling where Chrome described ritoky as picking up on "textbook mafia tells" and he's essentially doing the exact same thing with Xatalos. I don't like it. I understand picking up on Xata's read progression on rayn, I think it's possibly reasonable to be suspicious of that, but the rest of it I don't think I like much.

You didn't think yamato's giant angry lecture about how he plays town was townie? I think that would have been very difficult to emotionally fake as mafia. The GB thing I was posting my thoughts and hoping you would explain your read. Your post I felt was town because I thought it showed a town way of thinking about things. Maybe it's silly but that's the feel I got.

I don't think I'm being hypocritical but I don't think it matters if I am anyway. ritoky felt like he was jumping on something that he could paint as scummy. Xatalos is doing things that mafia have motivation to do. Not sure if that makes sense to anyone.

Only thing I can say about Chrom is that he's plain wrong about me here, I could definitely fake being angry (or actually be angry, think about that!) about how I like to play the game as a mafia (and have done so on multiple occasions).

Haven't dug in to the wall about Xata yet but I'm rather unconvinced that Chrom is scum. He does seem rather preoccupied with Xata, however, from a cursory glance at his filter.