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On October 24 2015 00:22 marvellosity wrote:
GB you are not Onegu.
case against me debunked.
ez game ez life.
I want the town to remember the 40's of this game.
So obvious that Rayn and Marv are working together in a dubious fashion and in the 50's, they disappear after I start talking about their lack of logical answering to xata's perfectly good questions.
They ar using seniority to push bad reasoning, which is a senior scum tactic. There is no reason to use their seniority this way other than to push mislynches.
I no longer give two shits Marv's read on chroma.
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For the record, I'll say that I'm pretty unlynchable as town as well  I haven't been lynched as town since my few very first games. You can try it if you want, rayn/marv, but I don't think even you would succeed.
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I'm the Xata whisperer usually, unless you improved I am able to see if you're robotown or actual town
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On October 24 2015 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Here is the first thing that made me think Slam is mafia (after my initial vote -- that was really just for PoE and for pressure): Here is a post Slam makes: Show nested quote +On October 22 2015 15:25 Alakaslam wrote:On October 22 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote:On October 22 2015 13:27 Chromatically wrote:
and he used the same picture here so I think that's pretty much a slam dunk case. played 1 game with you, you spent all game calling me mafia for posting nonsense, i spent all game calling you mafia. you were mafia, i was town. so i think that's pretty much a slam dunk case. I was lampshadinf this idea. There is no case in the post chroma made. Also Rayn, you throwing your vote away is suspicious. You know I am unlynchable until Lylo, why are you parking your vote on LHF? This is however not what he thinks as town. This is what he thinks as town: Show nested quote +On September 04 2015 06:19 Alakaslam wrote:
I will be universally town read:
All game if town
Until day 2 if scum Therefore his "defense" on himself makes sense from scum perspective, as he thinks noone can catch him if he is scum. It also makes him "being able to do whatever he wants". He later on decides i am scum for: Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 16:14 Alakaslam wrote:On October 23 2015 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 16:01 GlowingBear wrote:
I seriously don't understand why I'm being scumread.
Could you please enlighten me? Because you are pushing a bad reasoned read. Because the way you defend yourself is exactly what you do as scum. Because you said you reda the thread but you actually didn't, not even close. Rayn, you are filling your "everyone else is so scum j can't decide" scum meta this is not what i am doing, however much Xatalos wants to claim so. It doesn't make it true. Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 16:19 Alakaslam wrote:On October 23 2015 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 07:05 yamato77 wrote:On October 23 2015 07:02 Xatalos wrote:On October 23 2015 06:52 yamato77 wrote:On October 23 2015 06:47 Xatalos wrote:
So instead of what's stupid, what do you think is... scummy/towny? I liked marv's pressure of GB. I had issue with what GB posted myself and it makes me feel better about him. GB, on the other hand, hasn't posted anything outside of what I believe he could post as mafia, so I'm still quite suspicious of him. Hm... I guess I agree. Though doesn't your last sentence make him null instead of suspicious? No, it makes him suspicious. yamato i am pretty sure GlowingBear is town here. Basically he says really scummy shit that makes absolutely no sense as mafia, because he doesn't really know what to do at all (i assume). Here he has some sort of a thought process going on in his head. Basically it's highly unlike he is scum here. Same goes for Hopeless, he tried to do stuff. He is just doing it in his own way that looks scummy to basically everyone.. always. I am really really sure ritoky is mafia. I am also quite sure Slam is scum because of process of elimination. Xatalos is probably just really fucking dumb atm, but at least his explanation to BH thing makes some sense, unlike ritoky's. ritoky basically argues that Blazinghand is town based on illogical arguments, or arguments that are easily proven wrong. Like even if he believes those arguments are true the read is shit and arguing the read is good for those things is something that a townie never does. Last scum is probably Blazinghand or Onegu. I kinda think it's Onegu atm, since Blazinghand seems to be trying to do something and getting something out of his shennies at the start of the game. I don't believe gumshoe is scum, basically his reacation towards me doesn't make any sense as mafia. He is right in that i suually pressure him every game we are in and i know he acts differently when he is scum than when he is town. I just don't see him being scum here. Vivax is basically his own paranoid town self with a portion of good logical thoughts. marv is almost definitely town. you are almost definitely town. Chromatically seems to be the most level headed person in this game. It's like not totally out of question he is scum here but most likely he is just town as his posting suggests. Opinion all over the place this is not "opinion all over the place". It's a very clear post that follows my filter and my thought process 100%. There is nothing "all over the place" here. Literally. Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 16:30 Alakaslam wrote:On October 23 2015 07:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 23 2015 06:38 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 06:27 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a question. Xatalos do you seriously think Blazinghand - as town - believes that lynching by RNG on D1 has the best chances of hitting mafia? Like do you SERIOUSLY believe that? depending on the setup of the game and the structure of PRs, yes. really? when he himself just argued it's less likely to hit mafia then not rng lycnhing? it's actually equally as likely, so i disagree with your premise entirely. it's actually really simple. i mean i guess it's pretty simple for me cuz i read like 10 of BH's games in the recent past so i could accurately impersonate him. here's your guide to reading BH: Did he RNG immediately @ the start of the game: if yes -> 80% chance to be town; if no -> 80% chance to be mafia Did he push the RNG target or just leave it there like a dead fish: if push -> 95% chance to be town; if dead fish - 50% chance to be mafia Did he gather reads from people arguing with him about why they are better than RNG: yes - DING DING DING town; i don't know he hasn't given reads - 75% town; no - 50% town rayn, was this your turning point on ritoky? They're right when saying that ritoky posted nothing between "(rayn thinks) ritoky is town" and "POE lynch list include ritoky". Yeah as i said that was yesterday. I clearly pointed out (before going to bed) that i dislike Xatalos' & ritoky's reads on BH which i had missed earlier as i was tired. My townread on ritoky before was not based on that at all. I jsut didn't pay attention to his posts because i didn't think he was saying anything interesting. It's like how i treat players who don't say anything interesting (unless something changes)... in every game. There is absolutely nothing contradicting there, i re-evaluated his posting after i had slept and dug up further and came to conclusion he is mafia, because: 1) His read on BH is bad. 2) His reasoning for his read doesn't even make any sense.for example; he says there is 80% chance BH does this rng thing as town, so there is actually then 20% chance of BH doing that as mafia - by default. When people tell his that "BH could totally do that as mafia" it doesn't affect his read at all. In fact he just pushes the townread further with more illogical arguments, like trying to argue random lynching is as effective as not random lynching, which is a straight out lie, and doesn't even have anything to do with BH's alignment. So yeah, there is that. That's basically the only thing he has done in this game in addition to now bitching at me. See you don't do this stuff as town Now this is the most interesting part. Again i have literally done the same thing in my last two games: Battle of the Drams - where i ignored GlowingBear's and rsoultin's posting until they started saying something interesting / scummy -- that's what i have been doing lately because i don't want to argue with everyone and i can actually trust certain players' reads on them. Firefly - where i ignored GlowingBear (until yamato called him sure scum) and Cake -- for similar reason than in Drams. Now Slam even played in the earlier game and i actually did many 180's in that game, i even flip-flopped my read on himself for like two days, because i couldn't decide if he is mafia or not. The point here is Slam should know i do the stuff he claims i am mafia for as town -- and says i don't do it. Not gonna fly Slam, you're scum.
I didn't say you don't have fluid reads, which is what you assert here.
I said your reads here are not fluid, they are wild. Hence the compass analogy.
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On October 24 2015 01:45 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 00:22 marvellosity wrote:
GB you are not Onegu.
case against me debunked.
ez game ez life. I want the town to remember the 40's of this game. So obvious that Rayn and Marv are working together in a dubious fashion and in the 50's, they disappear after I start talking about their lack of logical answering to xata's perfectly good questions. They ar using seniority to push bad reasoning, which is a senior scum tactic. There is no reason to use their seniority this way other than to push mislynches. I no longer give two shits Marv's read on chroma.
Yeah I thought about that a bit well... It was slightly uncomfortable when I showed that marv's argument for rayn to be town was simply BS and he fell back on "I have more experience, you have no right to question me" instead of reconsidering his read or anything.
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Oh Slam with the seniority argument.
I remember how I used that in my first games, trying to incite a revolution of the masses to overhtrow the vet government.
Then I got hanged, torn and quartered.
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On October 24 2015 01:47 Vivax wrote:
I'm the Xata whisperer usually, unless you improved I am able to see if you're robotown or actual town
Robotown?
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On October 24 2015 01:49 Vivax wrote:
Oh Slam with the seniority argument.
I remember how I used that in my first games, trying to incite a revolution of the masses to overhtrow the vet government.
Then I got hanged, torn and quartered.
:D:D:D
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I meant drawn and quartered, something didn't feel right.
Xata I mean that I can feel when you're fake posting and actually posting.
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On October 24 2015 00:34 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 00:33 marvellosity wrote:
it's not heading towards anything vs rayn. It is if I have anything to say about it.
I think this was prophetic.
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On October 24 2015 01:51 Vivax wrote:
I meant drawn and quartered, something didn't feel right.
Xata I mean that I can feel when you're fake posting and actually posting.
And the conclusion is?
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Slam feels... different, I typically see him as a derpy jokey player, but hes pretty intense this game. Breaking meta for sure, not certain what it means though.
Rayn seems pretty amped up, I feel like he started the game angry and just gets angrier as the game goes on, but the rage hasnt been too focused. Rayn is perfectly capable of tunneling one person forever and coming up with all manner of bullshit on them, but he really has been all over the place, which would suggest he is actually trying to figure stuff out in his own way. Or hes just flailing, trying to get whatever lynch to go down.
As for slam, def some wierd stuff cropping up here and there.
GB hard defense of Yamato making me wonder.
in context with mah yamato case, this is a bit sketch, if Slam pushed to get gb lynched based off association with yam, and gb was town, his flip would in no way impact yamato. It's a small thing / : for sure.
Mostly I dont want rayn to be scum, because then Bh will be right and well never hear the end of it. But I'm not sure slam is scum either. I dont like this lynch choice at all T_T
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On October 24 2015 01:49 Vivax wrote:
Oh Slam with the seniority argument.
I remember how I used that in my first games, trying to incite a revolution of the masses to overhtrow the vet government.
Then I got hanged, torn and quartered.
I'm not saying they shouldn't use it as town. More that they are using it scummily here.
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I still see little reason to revoke my townread or to read cases on you, but that might change if I decide to go over your filter for some reason.
You felt pretty solid to me early in the game, I'm still sticking to that.
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On October 24 2015 01:52 gumshoe wrote:Slam feels... different, I typically see him as a derpy jokey player, but hes pretty intense this game. Breaking meta for sure, not certain what it means though. Rayn seems pretty amped up, I feel like he started the game angry and just gets angrier as the game goes on, but the rage hasnt been too focused. Rayn is perfectly capable of tunneling one person forever and coming up with all manner of bullshit on them, but he really has been all over the place, which would suggest he is actually trying to figure stuff out in his own way. Or hes just flailing, trying to get whatever lynch to go down. As for slam, def some wierd stuff cropping up here and there. in context with mah yamato case, this is a bit sketch, if Slam pushed to get gb lynched based off association with yam, and gb was town, his flip would in no way impact yamato. It's a small thing / : for sure. Mostly I dont want rayn to be scum, because then Bh will be right and well never hear the end of it. But I'm not sure slam is scum either. I dont like this lynch choice at all T_T
Haha.... Be ready for BH's mention of this game next time around...
I wonder where BH went to though.
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Can we just collectively agree to pussy out as town and vote for the most objectively useless player?
Onegu, 2015
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On October 24 2015 01:52 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 01:49 Vivax wrote:
Oh Slam with the seniority argument.
I remember how I used that in my first games, trying to incite a revolution of the masses to overhtrow the vet government.
Then I got hanged, torn and quartered. I'm not saying they shouldn't use it as town. More that they are using it scummily here.
If it comforts you I feel ambiguous about rayn too when he goes after you and not GB but I also take into consideration that we all got massive egos.
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On October 24 2015 01:53 Vivax wrote:
I still see little reason to revoke my townread or to read cases on you, but that might change if I decide to go over your filter for some reason.
You felt pretty solid to me early in the game, I'm still sticking to that.
Alright... And what's your stance on the whole debacle between me/rayn/Slam?
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On October 24 2015 01:39 Xatalos wrote:
Tbh my current scumteam would be rayn/marv/Chromatically, but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong on at least one. There are too many people who have done barely anything (Onegu/Hopeless mainly I think, and several others haven't done much later in the day). It's pretty likely there could be scum among that group.
This post makes no sense for the record.
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