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Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 01 2015 18:17 GMT
#3561
On November 02 2015 03:10 gumshoe wrote:
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So please please please vote Yamato, if he flips green I will sheep whatever lynch you want for the rest of the game. Just houmer me today, will yah?


I totally forgot about this T_T I will vote for whatever chrom votes today, but let it be known that Hopeless is objectively the best kill : P


Yeah lol you shouldn't do this, vote who you want. It's good that there's at least a discussion about it.

(maybe I'll call it in tomorrow though)

On November 02 2015 03:09 Vivax wrote:
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On November 02 2015 03:05 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:54 Chromatically wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:50 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:47 Chromatically wrote:
Honestly, I don't know what my preference is really (on GB/Hopeless today) so I was just planning on going with whatever most people wanted to do to prevent some crazy voteswitches if people went insane or something. I've thought about what would happen if either player flipped either alignment, and I believe that the next lynch is always the other player.

I want GB because knowing what the wagons are is nice, he's getting harder to lynch (especially if Hopeless is town and we go to LYLO), he's very likely to be mafia from play, and personal gratification.

I want Hopeless because it feels incorrect to let him live another day without playing, and because he's very likely to be mafia just from his vote yesterday.

Maybe this is getting to far ahead, but in the event that we lynched Hopeless today and he flipped mafia, I think it's pretty important that we lynch GB next and not at LYLO. That way, in the event that GB is town, we have maximum information at LYLO on the D3 wagons so we can determine what the most likely last mafia is. I guess this scenario is unlikely though because it's not LYLO if Hopeless is mafia so GB probably gets lynched.

So I'm not sure if any of these reasons is better than the others.


sure we can lynch gb tommorow, as I dont see vivax getting lynched till lylo(you want a slippery one, there ya go). But yeah, we need to kill hopeless today, gb and vivax arent scum together so hopeless must be.



Yeah... although it's technically possible the team is something insane like GB+ritoky I guess? It's pretty hard to see a world where it's not Hopeless (although it's pretty hard for me to see not GB too).

I'm just worried that you won't go on GB again tomorrow gumshoe, you betrayed me once before after yamato .


I'm sorry ) : your right I do owe you one, if you really really really wanna kill gb I wont oppose it ok? It's just not the optimal move ) : also if the team could BE something with ritoky, wouldnt kit be better to know now before lylo? Gb's kill doesn't tell us anything about that T_T


Yes ritoky should be here choosing the guy to vote. It makes me uncomfortable he's afk since he proclamed himself conf town.

I agree with this, I was very confident that he was town but him being MIA makes me uncomfortable here. Probably nothing but I had the same feeling.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
November 01 2015 18:19 GMT
#3562
On November 02 2015 03:16 gumshoe wrote:
In the past day and night vivax has crumbed against me, ritoky, bh, chrom,

vivax do you even have town reads this game?



Chrom since his GB meta research and case, probably BH.

Everyone else I keep considering to be possible, you too.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 18:19 GMT
#3563
On November 02 2015 03:15 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 03:05 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:54 Chromatically wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:50 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:47 Chromatically wrote:
Honestly, I don't know what my preference is really (on GB/Hopeless today) so I was just planning on going with whatever most people wanted to do to prevent some crazy voteswitches if people went insane or something. I've thought about what would happen if either player flipped either alignment, and I believe that the next lynch is always the other player.

I want GB because knowing what the wagons are is nice, he's getting harder to lynch (especially if Hopeless is town and we go to LYLO), he's very likely to be mafia from play, and personal gratification.

I want Hopeless because it feels incorrect to let him live another day without playing, and because he's very likely to be mafia just from his vote yesterday.

Maybe this is getting to far ahead, but in the event that we lynched Hopeless today and he flipped mafia, I think it's pretty important that we lynch GB next and not at LYLO. That way, in the event that GB is town, we have maximum information at LYLO on the D3 wagons so we can determine what the most likely last mafia is. I guess this scenario is unlikely though because it's not LYLO if Hopeless is mafia so GB probably gets lynched.

So I'm not sure if any of these reasons is better than the others.


sure we can lynch gb tommorow, as I dont see vivax getting lynched till lylo(you want a slippery one, there ya go). But yeah, we need to kill hopeless today, gb and vivax arent scum together so hopeless must be.



Yeah... although it's technically possible the team is something insane like GB+ritoky I guess? It's pretty hard to see a world where it's not Hopeless (although it's pretty hard for me to see not GB too).

I'm just worried that you won't go on GB again tomorrow gumshoe, you betrayed me once before after yamato .


I'm sorry ) : your right I do owe you one, if you really really really wanna kill gb I wont oppose it ok? It's just not the optimal move ) : also if the team could BE something with ritoky, wouldnt it be better to know now before lylo? Gb's kill doesn't tell us anything about that T_T

I'm not entirely sure what the correct move is here. GB's kill would tell us about the wagons yesterday (which we don't get form Hopeless), so that we can start considering bus possibilities if GB was town?

The only way lynching one of them before the other is a problem is if both of them are town. So, we should lynch whichever one will give us the best information to decide if the other one could be town. If GB is town, then we can start considering whether the team was stacked on him (with Hopeless) or if it's some crazy bus (even though we should lynch Hopeless next anyway). If Hopeless is town, then... I don't think we get very much about other from that? Lynching for information feels bad but I think it's the best tiebreaker?


if we lynch gb and hes scum, we probally just lynch hopeless and then vivax the following day anyways, nothing really changes,

if we lynch gb and hes town, same story, we dont alter course

If we lynch hopeless and hes scum, again, we stay the course

if we lynch hopeless and hes town, that means ethier way we have a complex bus between vivax and gb, or someone in the town circle is scum.

Basically we have 4 outcomes, and only one of them has us changing course / : the only information that matters is the one you have to act on, therefore if you lynch for info, hopeless is the superior choice.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 18:22 GMT
#3564
On November 02 2015 03:19 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 03:16 gumshoe wrote:
In the past day and night vivax has crumbed against me, ritoky, bh, chrom,

vivax do you even have town reads this game?





Chrom since his GB meta research and case, probably BH.

Everyone else I keep considering to be possible, you too.


Fair enough : D btw if you actually did this your a godamm mastermind : P

On October 22 2015 06:11 Vivax wrote:
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setting up town to be biased against pants on head townies from day 1 through a joke. Goddamn brilliant.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
November 01 2015 18:22 GMT
#3565
On November 02 2015 03:19 gumshoe wrote:

if we lynch gb and hes scum, we probally just lynch hopeless and then vivax the following day anyways, nothing really changes,

if we lynch gb and hes town, same story, we dont alter course

If we lynch hopeless and hes scum, again, we stay the course

if we lynch hopeless and hes town, that means ethier way we have a complex bus between vivax and gb, or someone in the town circle is scum.

Basically we have 4 outcomes, and only one of them has us changing course / : the only information that matters is the one you have to act on, therefore if you lynch for info, hopeless is the superior choice.


YOU KEPT SAYING ONE OF US ISN'T MAFIA.
Now you wanna lynch me even if GB flips scum?
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 01 2015 18:23 GMT
#3566
On November 02 2015 02:28 Vivax wrote:
BH why no opinion on who to lynch first between them?


I've been super duper clear on this repeatedly, said it so many times I'm kinda amazed you're confused, but even if I hadn't made it clear earlier:

On October 31 2015 07:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Huh. I was guessing gumshoe, but maybe scum think they've got a chance of lynching him. IT's not happening, though.

##vote: glowingbear

H1 is also acceptable to me today.


I'm voting GB and said "H1 is also acceptable" and I did this like 2 minute sinto the day. get your head in the game boyo
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
November 01 2015 18:24 GMT
#3567
On November 02 2015 03:22 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 03:19 Vivax wrote:
On November 02 2015 03:16 gumshoe wrote:
In the past day and night vivax has crumbed against me, ritoky, bh, chrom,

vivax do you even have town reads this game?





Chrom since his GB meta research and case, probably BH.

Everyone else I keep considering to be possible, you too.


Fair enough : D btw if you actually did this your a godamm mastermind : P

Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 06:11 Vivax wrote:
[image loading]


setting up town to be biased against pants on head townies from day 1 through a joke. Goddamn brilliant.


No the pants on head guy was GB when he started his D1 with scumreading me, and then whined about being scumread cause he was "too pants on head" to be scum, precisely.

Point I've made during D1 already.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 18:24 GMT
#3568
btw if given how scummy hes geen you dont want to lynch hopeless for info that only matters if hes town, you should lynch him anyways because hes that likely to be scum XD
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 01 2015 18:25 GMT
#3569
On November 02 2015 02:20 Chromatically wrote:
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On November 02 2015 02:14 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:10 Chromatically wrote:
If GB is town, then Hopeless is like 99% mafia for coming into the thread and voting on the townie in a town-mafia lynch, so he should be lynched tomorrow. I don't see a situation where the next two lynches are GB-Hopeless in some order, and I don't see any world where they are both town. So either way we should get to final three at least.


I still feel good about GB/H1 scum. I understand there's some people feeling unconfident here but we just need to stay the course. This might be the last day we're able to lynch GB, too-- people who are scumreading him have been getting shot over time. Regardless, I'm figuring we lynch GB and H1 and win the game. And, as you said, even if one of them is town, it's almost certain they're not BOTH town.

Yep, I'm still on the GB/Hopeless idea too. I'm just arguing for the cases where it's not true, we should still lynch the other one and they shouldn't both be town.

I have to go for a few hours before the lynch so I'll probably move over to GB before then since that's what it's looking like. Prevent shenannies or something I guess?


I agree that even if GB/H1 shoudl flip town, we probably need to lynch the other one. That being said, I fully expect they'll both flip scum.

On November 02 2015 02:21 Chromatically wrote:
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On November 02 2015 02:15 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:14 Chromatically wrote:
On November 02 2015 01:33 gumshoe wrote:
sigh, gb has no way to win this game if hes scum, his actions are no consistent with a scummer whose about to die and invalidate all his reads / : like theres still confidence in his voice cause he thinks town can win, if hes scum with hopeless his tone would be much diffrent? But maybe I'm reading his voice all wrong T_T(this would be so much easier to acertain and convince people of in voice or video / : its just hard to translate a tone read)

If gb was scum with hopeless and onegu, why did he shoot rayn? Clearly onegu did it for cred

a world where I am scum this game I dont kill Rayn, I am not going to kill the only person that is town reading me this game. It would be suicide for me. Killing rayn takes pressure off of the people he was scum reading and lets them put pressure on me. They want this mislynch on me it gets them to lylo.


but he claims this looks bad on hopeless,

We can't know why rayn was killed, but it could just be very simple reasons. Maybe Onegu did it so he could make that argument in the thread, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the other mafia at all. Or maybe it was something else, like GB wanted to kill one of the people who was going after him hard in the thread.


I think it would be a mistake to overspeculate on the rayn nk, but I will note that there's nothing inherently wrong with it with a GB/1G/H1 team. Like, yeah, rayn wasn't captain mcuseful but those guys could have shot him, and 1G certainly had a reason to if nothing else

Yeah, it's not a point in favor of GB being mafia, just trying to show that it's not a reason that GB is town either.


yeah. Gb isn't mafia BECAUSE of nks, but they don't exonnerate him like some people think imo. My VCA has also shown taht it's super sensible for him to be mafia also.

On November 02 2015 02:29 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:28 Vivax wrote:
BH why no opinion on who to lynch first between them?


dont even try this shit.


yeah fuckin vivax

On November 02 2015 02:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:29 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:28 Vivax wrote:
BH why no opinion on who to lynch first between them?


dont even try this shit.


I have a preference on who to lynch first and that for good reasons I explained.
It's not "shit" if I get to discuss that with BH after noting that he isn't interested in doing that.


????
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 18:25 GMT
#3570
On November 02 2015 03:24 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 03:22 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 03:19 Vivax wrote:
On November 02 2015 03:16 gumshoe wrote:
In the past day and night vivax has crumbed against me, ritoky, bh, chrom,

vivax do you even have town reads this game?





Chrom since his GB meta research and case, probably BH.

Everyone else I keep considering to be possible, you too.


Fair enough : D btw if you actually did this your a godamm mastermind : P

On October 22 2015 06:11 Vivax wrote:
[image loading]


setting up town to be biased against pants on head townies from day 1 through a joke. Goddamn brilliant.


No the pants on head guy was GB when he started his D1 with scumreading me, and then whined about being scumread cause he was "too pants on head" to be scum, precisely.

Point I've made during D1 already.


A point that if your scum you seeded into our minds from the get go : D masterful.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
November 01 2015 18:25 GMT
#3571
On November 02 2015 03:23 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:28 Vivax wrote:
BH why no opinion on who to lynch first between them?


I've been super duper clear on this repeatedly, said it so many times I'm kinda amazed you're confused, but even if I hadn't made it clear earlier:

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2015 07:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Huh. I was guessing gumshoe, but maybe scum think they've got a chance of lynching him. IT's not happening, though.

##vote: glowingbear

H1 is also acceptable to me today.


I'm voting GB and said "H1 is also acceptable" and I did this like 2 minute sinto the day. get your head in the game boyo


I've read that but it's no explicit preference for GB, it's just you voting him first while having a "meh,whatever" attitude.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 01 2015 18:26 GMT
#3572
On November 02 2015 02:40 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:37 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:32 Vivax wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:29 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:28 Vivax wrote:
BH why no opinion on who to lynch first between them?


dont even try this shit.


I have a preference on who to lynch first and that for good reasons I explained.
It's not "shit" if I get to discuss that with BH after noting that he isn't interested in doing that.


You've been trying to find dirt on bh all game. It's not happening, it's not gonna work, stahp.


It's only dirt cause you like to think it is, but it's just me observing that he doesn't have a preference on GB hopeless and I want him to have one and am working for it and you put things into my mouth saying I want to "throw dirt" at him.


like, I've been pushing pretty hard on GB for the past 96 hours. THAT BEING SAID, I do think they're both scum, so if H1 gets lynched today I'm not gonna be too upset, but let's be real here: they're both scum. we lynch them both and win this game. I think we lynch GB first. Some others, like gumshoe, think we should lynch H1 first. Even so, you can literally see my vote on GB. RIGHT NOW. my vote is LITERALLY on GB.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 01 2015 18:27 GMT
#3573
On November 02 2015 03:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 03:23 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:28 Vivax wrote:
BH why no opinion on who to lynch first between them?


I've been super duper clear on this repeatedly, said it so many times I'm kinda amazed you're confused, but even if I hadn't made it clear earlier:

On October 31 2015 07:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Huh. I was guessing gumshoe, but maybe scum think they've got a chance of lynching him. IT's not happening, though.

##vote: glowingbear

H1 is also acceptable to me today.


I'm voting GB and said "H1 is also acceptable" and I did this like 2 minute sinto the day. get your head in the game boyo


I've read that but it's no explicit preference for GB, it's just you voting him first while having a "meh,whatever" attitude.


all this is doing is making me vaguely nervous that you're actually scum. get to the point
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 01 2015 18:28 GMT
#3574
On November 02 2015 03:01 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 00:46 GlowingBear wrote:
After I die, think twice before doing meta cases. Hint: they suck.

Gut feelings say hopeless is town. Facts point out to him being mafia (him voting me like that today is bad).

If you trust gumshoe's appeal to me, he is town. If not, he is always mafia with Onegu. I trust it. I don't think someone can get that low and swear on the life of others and be lying. Really, this is my reason to town read him.

After I die, kill Vivax. Then think twice about BH. I'm town. If I die today, will you reach MYLO? If yes, kill Vivax. If no, get rid of hopeless so you guys can clear your heads.

Read the latest student mafia so you can see I can be this burned out as town. I was town there.

I will vote Vivax because he keeps saying he is ready to in scum read me and was going against gumshoe automatically after I've brought that case. There was no real interaction between them before he decided my case was good and no tral interaction before he decided gumshoe was town again and I was mafia. He's most likely to be mafia after all.

##Vote: Vivax

Still, I have no idea why I'm mafia besides the meta case. Can anyone elaborate on this?

What does the underlined mean here?


Hopeless is always a question mark. If you can afford a second mislynch (after I die), go for hopeless. If not, then go for Vivax which I think is way scummier.
I'm adorable.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 18:28 GMT
#3575
On November 02 2015 03:22 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 03:19 gumshoe wrote:

if we lynch gb and hes scum, we probally just lynch hopeless and then vivax the following day anyways, nothing really changes,

if we lynch gb and hes town, same story, we dont alter course

If we lynch hopeless and hes scum, again, we stay the course

if we lynch hopeless and hes town, that means ethier way we have a complex bus between vivax and gb, or someone in the town circle is scum.

Basically we have 4 outcomes, and only one of them has us changing course / : the only information that matters is the one you have to act on, therefore if you lynch for info, hopeless is the superior choice.


YOU KEPT SAYING ONE OF US ISN'T MAFIA.
Now you wanna lynch me even if GB flips scum?


I said I wanna lynch hopeless first : P I fully expect the game to end there but yeah, if your at lylo with me and chrom or ritoky, I would totes vote for you before them as I consider a bus more likely then ethier of them being scum

don't take it personally : P
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
November 01 2015 18:29 GMT
#3576
On November 02 2015 03:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 03:25 Vivax wrote:
On November 02 2015 03:23 Blazinghand wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:28 Vivax wrote:
BH why no opinion on who to lynch first between them?


I've been super duper clear on this repeatedly, said it so many times I'm kinda amazed you're confused, but even if I hadn't made it clear earlier:

On October 31 2015 07:03 Blazinghand wrote:
Huh. I was guessing gumshoe, but maybe scum think they've got a chance of lynching him. IT's not happening, though.

##vote: glowingbear

H1 is also acceptable to me today.


I'm voting GB and said "H1 is also acceptable" and I did this like 2 minute sinto the day. get your head in the game boyo


I've read that but it's no explicit preference for GB, it's just you voting him first while having a "meh,whatever" attitude.


all this is doing is making me vaguely nervous that you're actually scum. get to the point


Read my posts about why I wanna lynch GB first, which I made right before upsetting you so gravely with those posts of mine, and tell me if you're convinced would be a start.

Or think of something that makes 1 lynch better, information wise or otherwise.

Why? Cause I want to kill GB and like to know who's on the stable train of killing him.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
November 01 2015 18:30 GMT
#3577
On November 02 2015 03:19 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 03:15 Chromatically wrote:
On November 02 2015 03:05 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:54 Chromatically wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:50 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:47 Chromatically wrote:
Honestly, I don't know what my preference is really (on GB/Hopeless today) so I was just planning on going with whatever most people wanted to do to prevent some crazy voteswitches if people went insane or something. I've thought about what would happen if either player flipped either alignment, and I believe that the next lynch is always the other player.

I want GB because knowing what the wagons are is nice, he's getting harder to lynch (especially if Hopeless is town and we go to LYLO), he's very likely to be mafia from play, and personal gratification.

I want Hopeless because it feels incorrect to let him live another day without playing, and because he's very likely to be mafia just from his vote yesterday.

Maybe this is getting to far ahead, but in the event that we lynched Hopeless today and he flipped mafia, I think it's pretty important that we lynch GB next and not at LYLO. That way, in the event that GB is town, we have maximum information at LYLO on the D3 wagons so we can determine what the most likely last mafia is. I guess this scenario is unlikely though because it's not LYLO if Hopeless is mafia so GB probably gets lynched.

So I'm not sure if any of these reasons is better than the others.


sure we can lynch gb tommorow, as I dont see vivax getting lynched till lylo(you want a slippery one, there ya go). But yeah, we need to kill hopeless today, gb and vivax arent scum together so hopeless must be.



Yeah... although it's technically possible the team is something insane like GB+ritoky I guess? It's pretty hard to see a world where it's not Hopeless (although it's pretty hard for me to see not GB too).

I'm just worried that you won't go on GB again tomorrow gumshoe, you betrayed me once before after yamato .


I'm sorry ) : your right I do owe you one, if you really really really wanna kill gb I wont oppose it ok? It's just not the optimal move ) : also if the team could BE something with ritoky, wouldnt it be better to know now before lylo? Gb's kill doesn't tell us anything about that T_T

I'm not entirely sure what the correct move is here. GB's kill would tell us about the wagons yesterday (which we don't get form Hopeless), so that we can start considering bus possibilities if GB was town?

The only way lynching one of them before the other is a problem is if both of them are town. So, we should lynch whichever one will give us the best information to decide if the other one could be town. If GB is town, then we can start considering whether the team was stacked on him (with Hopeless) or if it's some crazy bus (even though we should lynch Hopeless next anyway). If Hopeless is town, then... I don't think we get very much about other from that? Lynching for information feels bad but I think it's the best tiebreaker?


if we lynch gb and hes scum, we probally just lynch hopeless and then vivax the following day anyways, nothing really changes,

if we lynch gb and hes town, same story, we dont alter course

If we lynch hopeless and hes scum, again, we stay the course

if we lynch hopeless and hes town, that means ethier way we have a complex bus between vivax and gb, or someone in the town circle is scum.

Basically we have 4 outcomes, and only one of them has us changing course / : the only information that matters is the one you have to act on, therefore if you lynch for info, hopeless is the superior choice.


Wait, whey are we abandoning the H1 lynch if GB flips scum/town? I feel like we were all together on this before the Onegu flip: we lynch Onegu, Gb, and H1. Now the Onegu flip happens and everyone's freaking out. Why are we freaking out? Things are going great. I mean, yeah, vivax has turned into a suspicious motherfucker, but we have a spare lynch for him anyways. I think we got this on lockdown.

On November 02 2015 02:47 Chromatically wrote:
Honestly, I don't know what my preference is really (on GB/Hopeless today) so I was just planning on going with whatever most people wanted to do to prevent some crazy voteswitches if people went insane or something. I've thought about what would happen if either player flipped either alignment, and I believe that the next lynch is always the other player.

I want GB because knowing what the wagons are is nice, he's getting harder to lynch (especially if Hopeless is town and we go to LYLO), he's very likely to be mafia from play, and personal gratification.

I want Hopeless because it feels incorrect to let him live another day without playing, and because he's very likely to be mafia just from his vote yesterday.

Maybe this is getting to far ahead, but in the event that we lynched Hopeless today and he flipped mafia, I think it's pretty important that we lynch GB next and not at LYLO. That way, in the event that GB is town, we have maximum information at LYLO on the D3 wagons so we can determine what the most likely last mafia is. I guess this scenario is unlikely though because it's not LYLO if Hopeless is mafia so GB probably gets lynched.

So I'm not sure if any of these reasons is better than the others.


Yeah support for the GB wagon has been gradually shot by scum for the past few days.
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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 18:31 GMT
#3578
basically its like this

chrom/ritoky scum < gb bussed vivax like a derp.

but

hopeless/vivax or hopeless/gb > gb bussed vivax like a derp

problem officer?
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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22408 Posts
November 01 2015 18:31 GMT
#3579
On November 02 2015 03:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 03:01 Chromatically wrote:
On November 02 2015 00:46 GlowingBear wrote:
After I die, think twice before doing meta cases. Hint: they suck.

Gut feelings say hopeless is town. Facts point out to him being mafia (him voting me like that today is bad).

If you trust gumshoe's appeal to me, he is town. If not, he is always mafia with Onegu. I trust it. I don't think someone can get that low and swear on the life of others and be lying. Really, this is my reason to town read him.

After I die, kill Vivax. Then think twice about BH. I'm town. If I die today, will you reach MYLO? If yes, kill Vivax. If no, get rid of hopeless so you guys can clear your heads.

Read the latest student mafia so you can see I can be this burned out as town. I was town there.

I will vote Vivax because he keeps saying he is ready to in scum read me and was going against gumshoe automatically after I've brought that case. There was no real interaction between them before he decided my case was good and no tral interaction before he decided gumshoe was town again and I was mafia. He's most likely to be mafia after all.

##Vote: Vivax

Still, I have no idea why I'm mafia besides the meta case. Can anyone elaborate on this?

What does the underlined mean here?


Hopeless is always a question mark. If you can afford a second mislynch (after I die), go for hopeless. If not, then go for Vivax which I think is way scummier.


Wtf is that weird conditional? If you're town and die, tomorrow it's lylo right? So you should only be considering one scenario.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 01 2015 18:33 GMT
#3580
On November 02 2015 03:31 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 03:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 02 2015 03:01 Chromatically wrote:
On November 02 2015 00:46 GlowingBear wrote:
After I die, think twice before doing meta cases. Hint: they suck.

Gut feelings say hopeless is town. Facts point out to him being mafia (him voting me like that today is bad).

If you trust gumshoe's appeal to me, he is town. If not, he is always mafia with Onegu. I trust it. I don't think someone can get that low and swear on the life of others and be lying. Really, this is my reason to town read him.

After I die, kill Vivax. Then think twice about BH. I'm town. If I die today, will you reach MYLO? If yes, kill Vivax. If no, get rid of hopeless so you guys can clear your heads.

Read the latest student mafia so you can see I can be this burned out as town. I was town there.

I will vote Vivax because he keeps saying he is ready to in scum read me and was going against gumshoe automatically after I've brought that case. There was no real interaction between them before he decided my case was good and no tral interaction before he decided gumshoe was town again and I was mafia. He's most likely to be mafia after all.

##Vote: Vivax

Still, I have no idea why I'm mafia besides the meta case. Can anyone elaborate on this?

What does the underlined mean here?


Hopeless is always a question mark. If you can afford a second mislynch (after I die), go for hopeless. If not, then go for Vivax which I think is way scummier.


Wtf is that weird conditional? If you're town and die, tomorrow it's lylo right? So you should only be considering one scenario.


I don't know if tomorroe is LYLO, I'm too lazy to do maths.
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