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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
November 01 2015 17:40 GMT
#3541
On November 02 2015 02:37 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:32 Vivax wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:29 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:28 Vivax wrote:
BH why no opinion on who to lynch first between them?


dont even try this shit.


I have a preference on who to lynch first and that for good reasons I explained.
It's not "shit" if I get to discuss that with BH after noting that he isn't interested in doing that.


You've been trying to find dirt on bh all game. It's not happening, it's not gonna work, stahp.


It's only dirt cause you like to think it is, but it's just me observing that he doesn't have a preference on GB hopeless and I want him to have one and am working for it and you put things into my mouth saying I want to "throw dirt" at him.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 17:41 GMT
#3542
On November 02 2015 02:36 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:29 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:14 Chromatically wrote:
On November 02 2015 01:33 gumshoe wrote:
sigh, gb has no way to win this game if hes scum, his actions are no consistent with a scummer whose about to die and invalidate all his reads / : like theres still confidence in his voice cause he thinks town can win, if hes scum with hopeless his tone would be much diffrent? But maybe I'm reading his voice all wrong T_T(this would be so much easier to acertain and convince people of in voice or video / : its just hard to translate a tone read)

If gb was scum with hopeless and onegu, why did he shoot rayn? Clearly onegu did it for cred

a world where I am scum this game I dont kill Rayn, I am not going to kill the only person that is town reading me this game. It would be suicide for me. Killing rayn takes pressure off of the people he was scum reading and lets them put pressure on me. They want this mislynch on me it gets them to lylo.


but he claims this looks bad on hopeless,

We can't know why rayn was killed, but it could just be very simple reasons. Maybe Onegu did it so he could make that argument in the thread, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the other mafia at all. Or maybe it was something else, like GB wanted to kill one of the people who was going after him hard in the thread.


Onegu: guys I wanna kill rayn cause it looks good on me but bad on you!

gb: You do that bro! your our only hope! do whatever you can to win : D

I cant see it -_- if gb is scum hes the most active by far, he would decide the shot for certain, especially because he would have hopless's support (the rayn shot was bad for him according to onegu)

We keep bending over backwards to justify how Gb is playing this obscure wifom game, when it's really just more likely that theres was someone who didnt suffer from the rayn shot along with onegu / :

Or maybe it's:
GB: "rayn is really pushing me hard, let's kill him"
Onegu: "aww but he's defending me"

Or maybe it's:
GB: "rayn is really annoying, let's kill him"
Onegu: "yeah he is"

Or maybe it's a whole bunch of different things that we can't actually know. We have no clue what would happen.


if it comes to it, I will lynch gb tommorow or at lylo. You have my word, do I think hes town? Yes, but the diffrence is I KNOW that gb you and ritoky are for a fact town. The only thing that could make me question that is if hopeless flips town, which he wont / : but is all the more reason to get it out of the way today.

I think there's enough reasonable doubt to assume hopeless is a better shot than gb, if you want to lynch gb that bad, fine, but hes just not as certain ) :
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 17:45 GMT
#3543
On November 02 2015 02:40 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:37 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:32 Vivax wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:29 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:28 Vivax wrote:
BH why no opinion on who to lynch first between them?


dont even try this shit.


I have a preference on who to lynch first and that for good reasons I explained.
It's not "shit" if I get to discuss that with BH after noting that he isn't interested in doing that.


You've been trying to find dirt on bh all game. It's not happening, it's not gonna work, stahp.


It's only dirt cause you like to think it is, but it's just me observing that he doesn't have a preference on GB hopeless and I want him to have one and am working for it and you put things into my mouth saying I want to "throw dirt" at him.


What scum needs to do in this spot:

Find a way to save self, or buddy, how to do that, mislynch a townie other than gb.

gb is just asking us to take him seriously when hes dead, you on the other hand are actively asserting that

"theres a townie riding lynch cred"

"bh, was up with your scuminess bro?"

"chrom is still scum probally"

You both are putting effort into this game but only one of has a chance to win as scum / : if I see you taking actions that specifically fit the one scum agenda that sees you winning, you can be sure that'll come off as shady to me, beyond just

putting things in your mouth


Trust me, when I put something into your mouth, you'll know.

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
November 01 2015 17:45 GMT
#3544
Like GB could be here discussing things right this very moment but he isn't cause he's probably loading his shotgun of feels and townie rainbows for the final hour again.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 01 2015 17:47 GMT
#3545
Honestly, I don't know what my preference is really (on GB/Hopeless today) so I was just planning on going with whatever most people wanted to do to prevent some crazy voteswitches if people went insane or something. I've thought about what would happen if either player flipped either alignment, and I believe that the next lynch is always the other player.

I want GB because knowing what the wagons are is nice, he's getting harder to lynch (especially if Hopeless is town and we go to LYLO), he's very likely to be mafia from play, and personal gratification.

I want Hopeless because it feels incorrect to let him live another day without playing, and because he's very likely to be mafia just from his vote yesterday.

Maybe this is getting to far ahead, but in the event that we lynched Hopeless today and he flipped mafia, I think it's pretty important that we lynch GB next and not at LYLO. That way, in the event that GB is town, we have maximum information at LYLO on the D3 wagons so we can determine what the most likely last mafia is. I guess this scenario is unlikely though because it's not LYLO if Hopeless is mafia so GB probably gets lynched.

So I'm not sure if any of these reasons is better than the others.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 01 2015 17:48 GMT
#3546
On November 02 2015 02:45 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:40 Vivax wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:37 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:32 Vivax wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:29 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:28 Vivax wrote:
BH why no opinion on who to lynch first between them?


dont even try this shit.


I have a preference on who to lynch first and that for good reasons I explained.
It's not "shit" if I get to discuss that with BH after noting that he isn't interested in doing that.


You've been trying to find dirt on bh all game. It's not happening, it's not gonna work, stahp.


It's only dirt cause you like to think it is, but it's just me observing that he doesn't have a preference on GB hopeless and I want him to have one and am working for it and you put things into my mouth saying I want to "throw dirt" at him.


What scum needs to do in this spot:

Find a way to save self, or buddy, how to do that, mislynch a townie other than gb.

gb is just asking us to take him seriously when hes dead, you on the other hand are actively asserting that

"theres a townie riding lynch cred"

"bh, was up with your scuminess bro?"

"chrom is still scum probally"

You both are putting effort into this game but only one of has a chance to win as scum / : if I see you taking actions that specifically fit the one scum agenda that sees you winning, you can be sure that'll come off as shady to me, beyond just

Show nested quote +
putting things in your mouth


Trust me, when I put something into your mouth, you'll know.



ROFLMFAO
I'm adorable.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 17:48 GMT
#3547
On November 02 2015 02:38 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:35 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:18 Vivax wrote:
I currently am even hoping I understood what you said there.

Emotional player, meta shown by Chromatically to be the case as both alignments before he dies.
But he hasn't been emotional in this game when his team was bussing him in a derpy fashion?



in gbs state, I dont think he would honestly put the effort in to do the latter(especially given the case he brought up) if his team was bussing him and all of town pretty much wanted him dead.



Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:16 Vivax wrote:
When has his team bussing him? I'm only aware of Onegu and hopeless in your current roster of scumreads.
Onegu didn't bus him.
Hopeless might have bussed him in the Onegu vs GB situation, but otherwise he only followed main wagons the previous days.

And I can't be scum with him, so you say.

So gumshoe, who has been bussing GB?



hopeless voted for gb(das a buss) -_- and onegu basically voted for him, he just kept the vote on hopeless so he could look consistent, but lets not kid ourselves, he was ready to vote gb anytime.

also I'm talking hypotheticals when I say his team was bussing him, specifically the onegu hopeless team. You cant be scum with him, so you wouldn't be bussing : P

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 17:50 GMT
#3548
On November 02 2015 02:47 Chromatically wrote:
Honestly, I don't know what my preference is really (on GB/Hopeless today) so I was just planning on going with whatever most people wanted to do to prevent some crazy voteswitches if people went insane or something. I've thought about what would happen if either player flipped either alignment, and I believe that the next lynch is always the other player.

I want GB because knowing what the wagons are is nice, he's getting harder to lynch (especially if Hopeless is town and we go to LYLO), he's very likely to be mafia from play, and personal gratification.

I want Hopeless because it feels incorrect to let him live another day without playing, and because he's very likely to be mafia just from his vote yesterday.

Maybe this is getting to far ahead, but in the event that we lynched Hopeless today and he flipped mafia, I think it's pretty important that we lynch GB next and not at LYLO. That way, in the event that GB is town, we have maximum information at LYLO on the D3 wagons so we can determine what the most likely last mafia is. I guess this scenario is unlikely though because it's not LYLO if Hopeless is mafia so GB probably gets lynched.

So I'm not sure if any of these reasons is better than the others.


sure we can lynch gb tommorow, as I dont see vivax getting lynched till lylo(you want a slippery one, there ya go). But yeah, we need to kill hopeless today, gb and vivax arent scum together so hopeless must be.


gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
November 01 2015 17:53 GMT
#3549
On November 02 2015 02:45 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:40 Vivax wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:37 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:32 Vivax wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:29 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:28 Vivax wrote:
BH why no opinion on who to lynch first between them?


dont even try this shit.


I have a preference on who to lynch first and that for good reasons I explained.
It's not "shit" if I get to discuss that with BH after noting that he isn't interested in doing that.


You've been trying to find dirt on bh all game. It's not happening, it's not gonna work, stahp.


It's only dirt cause you like to think it is, but it's just me observing that he doesn't have a preference on GB hopeless and I want him to have one and am working for it and you put things into my mouth saying I want to "throw dirt" at him.


gb is just asking us to take him seriously when hes dead, you on the other hand are actively asserting that



YES precisely, I'm playing and he's just lurking throwing a few cases in between but never just sticking around or encouraging any discussion beyond his justification for a vote.

Like if he wants to die he can vote for himself, but it's obviously just his emo defense that you find so convincing, so he won't.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 01 2015 17:54 GMT
#3550
On November 02 2015 02:45 Vivax wrote:
Like GB could be here discussing things right this very moment but he isn't cause he's probably loading his shotgun of feels and townie rainbows for the final hour again.


What else you want me to discuss, Viv? You want me repeat that the case on me is wrong because meta is bad? Or that I think you're mafia because of tone read and that you repeatedly said you were ready to un scum read me and to sheep my case, then suddenly you town read gum shoe again without interacting with him and there I am again on the chopping block for you?

Do you want me to discuss BH? That I think he is too certain on a team that should look impossible? That he has being wishy washy on me day1 and day2, townreading ME from time to time then suddenly I'm 100% scum?

Do you want me to say again I think chrome is town for effort and gumshoe is town because I don't think he would act so low?

That hopeless could be town especially when Onegu tried to divert the wagon to him?

What else do you want?
I'm adorable.
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 01 2015 17:54 GMT
#3551
On November 02 2015 02:50 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:47 Chromatically wrote:
Honestly, I don't know what my preference is really (on GB/Hopeless today) so I was just planning on going with whatever most people wanted to do to prevent some crazy voteswitches if people went insane or something. I've thought about what would happen if either player flipped either alignment, and I believe that the next lynch is always the other player.

I want GB because knowing what the wagons are is nice, he's getting harder to lynch (especially if Hopeless is town and we go to LYLO), he's very likely to be mafia from play, and personal gratification.

I want Hopeless because it feels incorrect to let him live another day without playing, and because he's very likely to be mafia just from his vote yesterday.

Maybe this is getting to far ahead, but in the event that we lynched Hopeless today and he flipped mafia, I think it's pretty important that we lynch GB next and not at LYLO. That way, in the event that GB is town, we have maximum information at LYLO on the D3 wagons so we can determine what the most likely last mafia is. I guess this scenario is unlikely though because it's not LYLO if Hopeless is mafia so GB probably gets lynched.

So I'm not sure if any of these reasons is better than the others.


sure we can lynch gb tommorow, as I dont see vivax getting lynched till lylo(you want a slippery one, there ya go). But yeah, we need to kill hopeless today, gb and vivax arent scum together so hopeless must be.



Yeah... although it's technically possible the team is something insane like GB+ritoky I guess? It's pretty hard to see a world where it's not Hopeless (although it's pretty hard for me to see not GB too).

I'm just worried that you won't go on GB again tomorrow gumshoe, you betrayed me once before after yamato .
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 01 2015 18:01 GMT
#3552
On November 02 2015 00:46 GlowingBear wrote:
After I die, think twice before doing meta cases. Hint: they suck.

Gut feelings say hopeless is town. Facts point out to him being mafia (him voting me like that today is bad).

If you trust gumshoe's appeal to me, he is town. If not, he is always mafia with Onegu. I trust it. I don't think someone can get that low and swear on the life of others and be lying. Really, this is my reason to town read him.

After I die, kill Vivax. Then think twice about BH. I'm town. If I die today, will you reach MYLO? If yes, kill Vivax. If no, get rid of hopeless so you guys can clear your heads.

Read the latest student mafia so you can see I can be this burned out as town. I was town there.

I will vote Vivax because he keeps saying he is ready to in scum read me and was going against gumshoe automatically after I've brought that case. There was no real interaction between them before he decided my case was good and no tral interaction before he decided gumshoe was town again and I was mafia. He's most likely to be mafia after all.

##Vote: Vivax

Still, I have no idea why I'm mafia besides the meta case. Can anyone elaborate on this?

What does the underlined mean here?
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 18:02 GMT
#3553
On November 02 2015 02:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:45 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:40 Vivax wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:37 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:32 Vivax wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:29 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:28 Vivax wrote:
BH why no opinion on who to lynch first between them?


dont even try this shit.


I have a preference on who to lynch first and that for good reasons I explained.
It's not "shit" if I get to discuss that with BH after noting that he isn't interested in doing that.


You've been trying to find dirt on bh all game. It's not happening, it's not gonna work, stahp.


It's only dirt cause you like to think it is, but it's just me observing that he doesn't have a preference on GB hopeless and I want him to have one and am working for it and you put things into my mouth saying I want to "throw dirt" at him.


gb is just asking us to take him seriously when hes dead, you on the other hand are actively asserting that



YES precisely, I'm playing and he's just lurking throwing a few cases in between but never just sticking around or encouraging any discussion beyond his justification for a vote.

Like if he wants to die he can vote for himself, but it's obviously just his emo defense that you find so convincing, so he won't.


blatant lie.



Ok, so it seems I'm dead today.

Some thoughts for you:

IF Onegu is mafia, gumshoe is always mafia with him. It should be pretty telling to you that gumshoe was strong townreading me, then decided to vote me to follow his townreads, but when I confronted him he decided to simply "Unvote" while still scumreading Onegu. Then he decided to vote me again over TONE LOL. Now he is voting Onegu, but just when the lynch is secured on me (he voted Onegu when I've reached majority with 5 votes). This is fucking scummy.

BUT if Onegu turns out to be town, gumshoe is always town because there is no reason to do so
many scummy moves when the main two wagons are town.

I will expand on this in a couple of minutes. But for me, gumshoe and Onegu are always mafia. I don't know how Vivax could fit in this team, tho.


Did you read what I've brought on him


NO HE DOESN'T. IF YOU READ WHAT I'VE WROTE YOU'LL SEE THAT IF ONEGU IS MAFIA THERE IS NO WAY GUMSHOE ISN'T

FUCKING READ IT.


2 is not true because i've especifically asked you this and you said it would clear me TO THE OTHERS.

I'm gonna find the post.

3 why would you risk mislynching me WHEN YOU COULD BE LYNCHING YOUR SCUMREAD? Lol so you can risk mislynching me but you can't risk mislynching a player who isn't playing at all?

Haha you're full of shit. I'll only talk to you again if I live and Onegu dies.


No, I want you to comment my case in details. Stop dismissing it.


GAME IS SOLVED

GAME IS SOLVED

GAME IS SOLVED!!!!!!


I could be wrong on BH though and be OMGUSing right now. But I find hard to believe he would try to dismiss my "please read" so hard + I find hard to believe he would believe that day3 wagons were both mafia with no other scum trying to form a wagon on a townie.


MY

GOD

XATALOS.

MY GOD.

Did you read what I've wrote? I mean, at all?


Xata.

Go.

And read.


This actually reinforces what I've brought.


Dude this is exactly why I'm calling gumshoe mafia but he is and I'm not because I ACTUALLY VOTED ONEGU and he only voted when his vote wouldn't take me out of majority.

ROFL you people...


theres more too that I'm leaving out, he was pushing his case HARD all of night 3, engaging constantly with others, he only wound down when I deflated him by cheating.

so no, he was super hardcore pushing and interacting regarding a case, the fact that he abandoned it though should be a point in his favour / :
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 18:05 GMT
#3554
On November 02 2015 02:54 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:50 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:47 Chromatically wrote:
Honestly, I don't know what my preference is really (on GB/Hopeless today) so I was just planning on going with whatever most people wanted to do to prevent some crazy voteswitches if people went insane or something. I've thought about what would happen if either player flipped either alignment, and I believe that the next lynch is always the other player.

I want GB because knowing what the wagons are is nice, he's getting harder to lynch (especially if Hopeless is town and we go to LYLO), he's very likely to be mafia from play, and personal gratification.

I want Hopeless because it feels incorrect to let him live another day without playing, and because he's very likely to be mafia just from his vote yesterday.

Maybe this is getting to far ahead, but in the event that we lynched Hopeless today and he flipped mafia, I think it's pretty important that we lynch GB next and not at LYLO. That way, in the event that GB is town, we have maximum information at LYLO on the D3 wagons so we can determine what the most likely last mafia is. I guess this scenario is unlikely though because it's not LYLO if Hopeless is mafia so GB probably gets lynched.

So I'm not sure if any of these reasons is better than the others.


sure we can lynch gb tommorow, as I dont see vivax getting lynched till lylo(you want a slippery one, there ya go). But yeah, we need to kill hopeless today, gb and vivax arent scum together so hopeless must be.



Yeah... although it's technically possible the team is something insane like GB+ritoky I guess? It's pretty hard to see a world where it's not Hopeless (although it's pretty hard for me to see not GB too).

I'm just worried that you won't go on GB again tomorrow gumshoe, you betrayed me once before after yamato .


I'm sorry ) : your right I do owe you one, if you really really really wanna kill gb I wont oppose it ok? It's just not the optimal move ) : also if the team could BE something with ritoky, wouldnt it be better to know now before lylo? Gb's kill doesn't tell us anything about that T_T
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
November 01 2015 18:09 GMT
#3555
On November 02 2015 03:05 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:54 Chromatically wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:50 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:47 Chromatically wrote:
Honestly, I don't know what my preference is really (on GB/Hopeless today) so I was just planning on going with whatever most people wanted to do to prevent some crazy voteswitches if people went insane or something. I've thought about what would happen if either player flipped either alignment, and I believe that the next lynch is always the other player.

I want GB because knowing what the wagons are is nice, he's getting harder to lynch (especially if Hopeless is town and we go to LYLO), he's very likely to be mafia from play, and personal gratification.

I want Hopeless because it feels incorrect to let him live another day without playing, and because he's very likely to be mafia just from his vote yesterday.

Maybe this is getting to far ahead, but in the event that we lynched Hopeless today and he flipped mafia, I think it's pretty important that we lynch GB next and not at LYLO. That way, in the event that GB is town, we have maximum information at LYLO on the D3 wagons so we can determine what the most likely last mafia is. I guess this scenario is unlikely though because it's not LYLO if Hopeless is mafia so GB probably gets lynched.

So I'm not sure if any of these reasons is better than the others.


sure we can lynch gb tommorow, as I dont see vivax getting lynched till lylo(you want a slippery one, there ya go). But yeah, we need to kill hopeless today, gb and vivax arent scum together so hopeless must be.



Yeah... although it's technically possible the team is something insane like GB+ritoky I guess? It's pretty hard to see a world where it's not Hopeless (although it's pretty hard for me to see not GB too).

I'm just worried that you won't go on GB again tomorrow gumshoe, you betrayed me once before after yamato .


I'm sorry ) : your right I do owe you one, if you really really really wanna kill gb I wont oppose it ok? It's just not the optimal move ) : also if the team could BE something with ritoky, wouldnt kit be better to know now before lylo? Gb's kill doesn't tell us anything about that T_T


Yes ritoky should be here choosing the guy to vote. It makes me uncomfortable he's afk since he proclamed himself conf town.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 18:10 GMT
#3556
So please please please vote Yamato, if he flips green I will sheep whatever lynch you want for the rest of the game. Just houmer me today, will yah?


I totally forgot about this T_T I will vote for whatever chrom votes today, but let it be known that Hopeless is objectively the best kill : P

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gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 18:11 GMT
#3557
On November 02 2015 03:09 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 03:05 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:54 Chromatically wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:50 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:47 Chromatically wrote:
Honestly, I don't know what my preference is really (on GB/Hopeless today) so I was just planning on going with whatever most people wanted to do to prevent some crazy voteswitches if people went insane or something. I've thought about what would happen if either player flipped either alignment, and I believe that the next lynch is always the other player.

I want GB because knowing what the wagons are is nice, he's getting harder to lynch (especially if Hopeless is town and we go to LYLO), he's very likely to be mafia from play, and personal gratification.

I want Hopeless because it feels incorrect to let him live another day without playing, and because he's very likely to be mafia just from his vote yesterday.

Maybe this is getting to far ahead, but in the event that we lynched Hopeless today and he flipped mafia, I think it's pretty important that we lynch GB next and not at LYLO. That way, in the event that GB is town, we have maximum information at LYLO on the D3 wagons so we can determine what the most likely last mafia is. I guess this scenario is unlikely though because it's not LYLO if Hopeless is mafia so GB probably gets lynched.

So I'm not sure if any of these reasons is better than the others.


sure we can lynch gb tommorow, as I dont see vivax getting lynched till lylo(you want a slippery one, there ya go). But yeah, we need to kill hopeless today, gb and vivax arent scum together so hopeless must be.



Yeah... although it's technically possible the team is something insane like GB+ritoky I guess? It's pretty hard to see a world where it's not Hopeless (although it's pretty hard for me to see not GB too).

I'm just worried that you won't go on GB again tomorrow gumshoe, you betrayed me once before after yamato .


I'm sorry ) : your right I do owe you one, if you really really really wanna kill gb I wont oppose it ok? It's just not the optimal move ) : also if the team could BE something with ritoky, wouldnt kit be better to know now before lylo? Gb's kill doesn't tell us anything about that T_T


Yes ritoky should be here choosing the guy to vote. It makes me uncomfortable he's afk since he proclamed himself conf town.


Would you stahp trying this shit? Godammit XD stick to two scum reads and stop spamming paranoia in thread.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22080 Posts
November 01 2015 18:14 GMT
#3558
On November 02 2015 03:11 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 03:09 Vivax wrote:
On November 02 2015 03:05 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:54 Chromatically wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:50 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:47 Chromatically wrote:
Honestly, I don't know what my preference is really (on GB/Hopeless today) so I was just planning on going with whatever most people wanted to do to prevent some crazy voteswitches if people went insane or something. I've thought about what would happen if either player flipped either alignment, and I believe that the next lynch is always the other player.

I want GB because knowing what the wagons are is nice, he's getting harder to lynch (especially if Hopeless is town and we go to LYLO), he's very likely to be mafia from play, and personal gratification.

I want Hopeless because it feels incorrect to let him live another day without playing, and because he's very likely to be mafia just from his vote yesterday.

Maybe this is getting to far ahead, but in the event that we lynched Hopeless today and he flipped mafia, I think it's pretty important that we lynch GB next and not at LYLO. That way, in the event that GB is town, we have maximum information at LYLO on the D3 wagons so we can determine what the most likely last mafia is. I guess this scenario is unlikely though because it's not LYLO if Hopeless is mafia so GB probably gets lynched.

So I'm not sure if any of these reasons is better than the others.


sure we can lynch gb tommorow, as I dont see vivax getting lynched till lylo(you want a slippery one, there ya go). But yeah, we need to kill hopeless today, gb and vivax arent scum together so hopeless must be.



Yeah... although it's technically possible the team is something insane like GB+ritoky I guess? It's pretty hard to see a world where it's not Hopeless (although it's pretty hard for me to see not GB too).

I'm just worried that you won't go on GB again tomorrow gumshoe, you betrayed me once before after yamato .


I'm sorry ) : your right I do owe you one, if you really really really wanna kill gb I wont oppose it ok? It's just not the optimal move ) : also if the team could BE something with ritoky, wouldnt kit be better to know now before lylo? Gb's kill doesn't tell us anything about that T_T


Yes ritoky should be here choosing the guy to vote. It makes me uncomfortable he's afk since he proclamed himself conf town.


Would you stahp trying this shit? Godammit XD stick to two scum reads and stop spamming paranoia in thread.


Why, are you 100 % sure beyond a doubt that ritoky is town?
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
November 01 2015 18:15 GMT
#3559
On November 02 2015 03:05 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2015 02:54 Chromatically wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:50 gumshoe wrote:
On November 02 2015 02:47 Chromatically wrote:
Honestly, I don't know what my preference is really (on GB/Hopeless today) so I was just planning on going with whatever most people wanted to do to prevent some crazy voteswitches if people went insane or something. I've thought about what would happen if either player flipped either alignment, and I believe that the next lynch is always the other player.

I want GB because knowing what the wagons are is nice, he's getting harder to lynch (especially if Hopeless is town and we go to LYLO), he's very likely to be mafia from play, and personal gratification.

I want Hopeless because it feels incorrect to let him live another day without playing, and because he's very likely to be mafia just from his vote yesterday.

Maybe this is getting to far ahead, but in the event that we lynched Hopeless today and he flipped mafia, I think it's pretty important that we lynch GB next and not at LYLO. That way, in the event that GB is town, we have maximum information at LYLO on the D3 wagons so we can determine what the most likely last mafia is. I guess this scenario is unlikely though because it's not LYLO if Hopeless is mafia so GB probably gets lynched.

So I'm not sure if any of these reasons is better than the others.


sure we can lynch gb tommorow, as I dont see vivax getting lynched till lylo(you want a slippery one, there ya go). But yeah, we need to kill hopeless today, gb and vivax arent scum together so hopeless must be.



Yeah... although it's technically possible the team is something insane like GB+ritoky I guess? It's pretty hard to see a world where it's not Hopeless (although it's pretty hard for me to see not GB too).

I'm just worried that you won't go on GB again tomorrow gumshoe, you betrayed me once before after yamato .


I'm sorry ) : your right I do owe you one, if you really really really wanna kill gb I wont oppose it ok? It's just not the optimal move ) : also if the team could BE something with ritoky, wouldnt it be better to know now before lylo? Gb's kill doesn't tell us anything about that T_T

I'm not entirely sure what the correct move is here. GB's kill would tell us about the wagons yesterday (which we don't get form Hopeless), so that we can start considering bus possibilities if GB was town?

The only way lynching one of them before the other is a problem is if both of them are town. So, we should lynch whichever one will give us the best information to decide if the other one could be town. If GB is town, then we can start considering whether the team was stacked on him (with Hopeless) or if it's some crazy bus (even though we should lynch Hopeless next anyway). If Hopeless is town, then... I don't think we get very much about other from that? Lynching for information feels bad but I think it's the best tiebreaker?
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
November 01 2015 18:16 GMT
#3560
In the past day and night vivax has crumbed against me, ritoky, bh, chrom,

vivax do you even have town reads this game?

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