EPThm...I'm actually willing to hazard that Alakaslam is town here. I really don't think that he'd not concede in this position.
Same with Superbia, but looking at his posts promising he'll post it might be a last ploy to come off as town.
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MoosyDoosy
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hm...I'm actually willing to hazard that Alakaslam is town here. I really don't think that he'd not concede in this position. Same with Superbia, but looking at his posts promising he'll post it might be a last ploy to come off as town. | ||
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NocturneMage
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NocturneMage
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I'm not sure about the concession argument. There are mafia players even when they are the last one left if they know they have even a slightest shot of manipulating town, they will attempt to manipulate town. I read Down Under 3. Scum lost first two mafia first two days. The final mafia tryharded massively to get to 2-1 lylo. He lost, but he gave it everything he got and got to where he was. Obvious town players got mislynched under some really dumb circumstances, and he made it work for him. | ||
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NocturneMage
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MoosyDoosy
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
11. You may not reveal or hint about the identity of your coach. You may not refer to any idea, course of action, etc. as something that was suggested by your coach. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On September 16 2015 22:44 NocturneMage wrote: I will be back one more time before the daypost. ok. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On August 25 2015 20:53 rsoultin wrote: 11. You may not reveal or hint about the identity of your coach. You may not refer to any idea, course of action, etc. as something that was suggested by your coach. Modnote: Tread carefully. Further discussion of coaches will result in a modkill. Everyone has been warned. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
copcake had very little chance of getting lynched prior to my claim. Neither of MD nor myself had shit for influence. so for anyone tinfoiling look a little more into the people that townread her or avoided trying to bring attention to her. - in this light, superbia at least suggested copcake - pretty sure alakaslam hard townread her - pretty sure scott was townreading her though later he said he was frustrated with her not helping - fidei was debating switching to her end of day 3 but he didn't - scott had "bigger fish to fry" over copcake - might need to re-check those bigger fish and see if that made sense something that popped into my head thinking about this game. | ||
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Fidei86
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I don't see what advantage Mafia me has in saying we're going to LyLo? I mean, it's not like I'd want to show off that predictive power. I said it because we've had two players basically stop playing at the same time, coinciding with the red check on CC. That's super super super scummy, from both of them. I think it could be either. And Sod's law says that we'll get the wrong one, and ergo we'll go to LyLo. Anyway, will be home this evening at a sensible time for filters. | ||
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Fidei86
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NocturneMage
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On September 17 2015 01:12 Fidei86 wrote: Also will try to bring a more positive mental attitude to proceedings. proceedings? you sound like a lawyer. let us know whom do you want to stand trial when you are through.  On September 13 2015 07:06 Fidei86 wrote: Like, Bresh dies 100% tonight, I think. Then we're stuck in LYLO-1 with BF and Cake, who are the easiest mislynch wagons there are (if they are actually town), and don't look like they're looking to actually solve the game AT ALL. I'm thinking I could move onto BF ... or maybe even Cake honestly. I think Superbia is mafia, but honestly I've been wrong before a fair bit and going this far into the game with two intense lurkers is filling me with apprehension. My Cake read was based on stuff from D1, but she's done next to nothing since. I'm also kind of confused as to why Slam is AFKing, and why most of his posts over the last day or so have been spammy. This game is hard. forget it. I forgot Fidei mentioned that Copcake doesn't get much towncred from the GB bus and the swing occurred with very little time, so it's NAI he didn't switch to cake and town indicative he drew her out in this quote. Under the scummate shield theory, final mafia is probably not Fidei. | ||
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On September 12 2015 18:01 scott31337 wrote: Moosy we are not lynching Copcake tomorrow so tell me your #2 when I wake up tomorrow. CopCake Alakaslam Superbia boxerfred Each tell me your #1 lynch. MoosyDoosy, CopCake, Alakaslam, Superbia, boxerfred Superbia (2): scott31337, Breshke Breshke (2): Fidei86, NocturneMage MoosyDoosy (0): Alakaslam Not Informing (5): MoosyDoosy, CopCake, Alakaslam, Superbia, boxerfred Mafia love to wait on their vote BTW On September 13 2015 07:24 scott31337 wrote: I think boxer is worse out of the two. Copcake calling me mafia and voting seems unnatural for the reasons (I believe because I put him in the weak side of the town circle, but didn't understand this and I explained it) copcake calling him mafia should have made her worse than boxerfred, but not sure of his read on boxerfred. Backtracking. On September 12 2015 17:52 scott31337 wrote: Fidei seems tunnelled on the Superbia/Breshke arguement - I still see townie vibes here - Breshke's play has gotten downhill - and the BS above - I doubt he'll keep a vote on Superbia, he tried once. It could be a flail from the scum team - I think they are scared. He hasn't shown me anything positive to town. I'm up for a bit - then sleep and get up before deadline. Moosy gets some decent points for how much he's tried, and when he did calm down - looks more focused at finding scum. Fidei is slightly better. I just don't see the Copcake confirmed town - still on the better fish to fry NM - Way more posting then his last game (as mafia) - like a busy town man - townlean. Boxerfred ... ohhhh He forgets why I am town. (ummmm... wow) Reads Superbia town for his huge case - and - Let's go over that. + Show Spoiler [Boxer Case] + On September 11 2015 17:33 boxerfred wrote: This is from D1 after GlowingBears claim. This post is an answer to rayn who hit the truth in his "claiming vig D1 is a great thing to call out a town role, get a blue kill in exchange for the goon." (though rayn couldn't know that GB is the goon at that point. This post is strange in many ways. Superbia thinks GB might do a (serious!) vigi claim at the very beginning of D1. To me, claiming blue D1 is like the stupidest thing you can do if you truely are a blue. How does Superbia come to that conclusion? The bolded part contradicts the initial meaning of the post ("nah guys GB is stupid not scum") however. It's 100% wishywashy. Also, the initial post (the quote in the quote) - why is Superbia disliking rayn for his reaction to GB? He should be disliking GB for the initial blue shenanigans. This post really feels like it's coming from someone who has to hide something. Time for the tinfoil hat: What if that was a serious response to a claim that Superbia thought was real? Also, WHY did GB claim Vigi if he DID know about the setup? This makes me feel really (really!) unsure if there is indeed a doctor in. We have two people D1 (GB, Superbia) that are willing to think that there is a Vigi in. However, GB claimed Doctor and Rayn claimed Doctor. There was NO counterclaim up to this point, keep that in mind guys! We have two setup slips from GB (Vigi, Doc) and we do not know which one is true. Out of this, I extract two scenarios. a) Doctor setup. Superbia's CC to GB was pure bullshit, making him look townie. b) Vigi setup. Superbia's CC to GB was the truth, making him, well, look townie. c) Vigi + Doc claim was absolutely bullshit (which is the unlikeliest to me) I'm kinda surprised that I come to this conclusion. I'll continue with the setup before going back to Superbia: Vigi setup feels the most likely to me TBH. 2/3 goons in scum - that means the chance that GB would flip scum as goon is higher than in any other setup. Also, we have no DOCTOR counter claimed except the rayn yolo, which was risky but great however it was not a Doctor. Basically, ANY rule could've counterclaimed the doctor that is Vigi, Veteran or Jailkeeper. So GB's claim EoD1 could have played out awesome for scum, ESPECIALLY in Setup B (1 Town Vigilante, 1 Town Veteran, 8 Vanilla Townies, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 2 Mafia Goons). Mafia would've exchanged a simple goon with a strong town blue, potentially Jailkeeper. I think at this point I have a pretty good theory who another blue role is but I won't tell since I don't want the guy to get killed. Okay, back to Superbia. As I said above - the behaviour from this post is conclusively townie. Maybe my logic is flawed somewhere, somehow, so please test the waters. Another point that makes Superbia look townie D1 is that he instantly jumped on GB's claim - why would a fellow scum member do this given that he'd know GB's plan of outing a blue? It doesn't make sense. Although noone brings up the claim after all D1, Superbia does so when NM enters the thread. This could be out of "yo maybe NM replaced a blue and GB's trick might work here" (which I don't think tbh - feels way to unrealistic) or is indeed a "look at this and tell me what you think". Genuine. + Show Spoiler + On September 07 2015 03:35 Superbia wrote: I'm here. Haven't read past few pages. Game kinda feels hard. rayn/yamato still very town. Stuck on moosy's alignment. Something feels off compared to previous game filters. Not sure what, still reading. His associative read triggered all sorts of re-evaluations. Stuck on noobking's alignment. His post style feels different from his mafia post style. Planning on reading into his meta after moosy. Feels like moosy may have spewn him town if moosy is mafia. IDK copcake tied into this. Also stuck on her alignment. Don't know about slam/gb. Both seem very much on the sidelines. bf superlurk. Last game he did this he was PR and got lynched d1 for it. To be honest, I think I may have the PRs down to a small circle already (of either mafia or PR) and he's not among them. Need to hear from people who have played with him. So yeah. Still very much in the process of evaluation. Here for questions and talking if people are around. Specifically the 3 above. Very busy tabbing between game filters though. So don't expect a superquick response. First kind of list post from Superbia. While he's not talking about GB in this, he puts a null/scum lean on MoosyDoosy. Which makes me feel like they have different alignments however I'm not too sure if that holds. Putting this in spoilers to not draw attention from the main parts of the post. Here is more interaction from GB which makes Superbia change his read of scott from town. This looks important: And indeed, Superbia brings up GB's case on Scott: At this point of filter diving, I have to say that Superbia's filter is full of oneliners, full of questions that lead to nowhere and don't do a thing. Not liking this at all. Also, he really likes GB's case on scott (this is one of the rare occasions where Superbia actually says his opinion). Here, he says it even multiple times: Scum read on Moosy, again (consistent!). However lateron, Slam calls Superbia out on his growing wishy-washyness: This is accurate. How big is the chance the scum!superbia would call out both of his team mates in one post (scott/gb vs. moosy/copcake)? This makes me feel he's town. This is huge. Again that makes me feel Superbia is town. I am now at his huge list post and will refer to this in a different post for the sake of readability. tl;dr - I actually think Superbia is not a good lynch this day. He appears townie to me after I fully evaluated his filter. I think you are reaching hard here, bud. Moosy moves up - He's pulled a lot of energy and caring boxer moves down. I'll give more quotes tomorrow. My thoughts right now - 2/4 in Breshke/Boxerfred/Superbia/MoosyDoosy Town team are CopCake/Slam/Fidei/scott/nm I have a good town plan and don't want to let the mafia get any ideas of my plan - they are flailing once GB got busted - smart town should understand. Unless you have a better case, Superbia needs to get lynched. I'll be up before deadline. the picture fits though. He is pointing out the scuminess in others too. thoughts on this? from mafia lens, it's a way of shielding copcake but you can at least see why he did it. if scott reaches final 3, it's worth revisiting again but honestly the picture fits, if he's mafia it's great mafia play. | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
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NocturneMage
United Kingdom1965 Posts
On September 17 2015 02:16 MoosyDoosy wrote: I have a weird twitch. :/ Hopefully it'll resolve itself. can you ask rsoultin to magically make you a medic so I can try to solve the game for a little longer? | ||
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MoosyDoosy
United States4519 Posts
On September 17 2015 02:23 NocturneMage wrote: can you ask rsoultin to magically make you a medic so I can try to solve the game for a little longer? In a heartbeat. | ||
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