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On September 17 2015 01:11 Fidei86 wrote:
@MD sorry I've been quiet, haven't had much time at work. I'm being a bit fatalist, honestly. I was fairly sure it was Superbia, but Slam's leaving us totally threw me. I don't understand how a townie ever does that, especially not when we're so close to the end and he's invested so much time. It is, of course, possible he is telling the truth. But idk, it wasn't even like his focus was on the not having time, it was much more on the "I don't want to help Mafia out". He also got super ragey when I called him out. I don't think he understands that what you post inside the Mafia thread might be a lie, and it's truth can only be known on your flip. Yelling at me just seems weird. But maybe town indicative? I think going too far down this line is WIFOM.
I don't see what advantage Mafia me has in saying we're going to LyLo? I mean, it's not like I'd want to show off that predictive power. I said it because we've had two players basically stop playing at the same time, coinciding with the red check on CC. That's super super super scummy, from both of them. I think it could be either. And Sod's law says that we'll get the wrong one, and ergo we'll go to LyLo.
Anyway, will be home this evening at a sensible time for filters.
scott mentioned - and alakaslam did - post that he was having real life issues and he left the season of the witch 2 game. as for his super rage, don't think that's alignment indicative.
as town having posted 19 pages and having to leave suddenly I can see being upsetting. as mafia it's putting a massive dent in him trying to survive.
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2 more hours to throw around more ideas...
for the copcake association, I'd encourage people to check reactions at key events
(1) around the time of the daypost and the red check start of day 4
- offhand I recall scott/md/superbia being in thread. I know fidei brought up alakaslam but I honestly don't recall him at all.
- md also reacted wildly but it was natural
- scott I recall was being extremely cautious but then he thought fidei was the cop and then suggested he could be the other mafia
- superbia said great check, but I can't see where else he'd go from his prior slam/copcake suggestion
obviously I got overexcited to the point I forgot to actually claim my role (lol) so that could have contributed to scott being leery. don't know. but look at those reactions and assess if something feels off.
I could envision a mafia having some pause in what they say to dart into scum qt and be like "oh shit you're dead copcake" or debating whether to CC. super wifom, but some feeling of shock might contribute to a delay in reaction. it's a thought.
in this light, look at scott/superbia. I know md reacted instantaneously.
(2) also the same for when GB claimed and then was counterclaimed.
that might be another thing to check and re-check through late game.
(3) events through the Breshke push/claim, reactions during the claim.
might not be comprehensive since not everyone was in thread at key moments but it's another piece of information that could be telling for some people.
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@NM Yeah. I remember thinking at the time that Scott's cop read on me made a lot of sense, since I've been playing a bit more cagey this time around. And when you claimed, he instantly revealed and turned on me. Before, he had been town reading me quite lightly, which is pretty consistent with his later explanation.
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alakaslam is saying superbia/scott - of those two which one do you suspect the most? why?
(answer this if you ever have time, yeah I'll be dead obviously but still answer it for everyone else)
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really can't see it being fidei or md at this point. really really can't. I mean especially in the case of md, he's practically playing against win condition or went for a ridiculously risky strategy overall.
still thinking superbia > slam > scott
scott is near tinfoil but not as tinfoil as md
from ockham's razor standpoint if slam is lynched next day I can see a mafia superbia making the nightkill that favours him for final three. given his spurts of activity from time to time, just like he went all out on Breshke, I can see him just pummel his choice target in final 3.
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On September 17 2015 06:04 Fidei86 wrote:
@NM Yeah. I remember thinking at the time that Scott's cop read on me made a lot of sense, since I've been playing a bit more cagey this time around. And when you claimed, he instantly revealed and turned on me. Before, he had been town reading me quite lightly, which is pretty consistent with his later explanation.
what if anything do you make of superbia's reaction?
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at this point I'm out of ideas. around until the daypost if anyone wants to chat.
maybe I'll cobble up the materials for a bulletproof vest, should be able to make one in 45 minutes 
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Any world Mafia doesn't kill you?  I don't want you to die.
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@NM I've been thinking a bit about the BF cop claim thing from Superbia. What do you think? I initially thought it looked quite towny, but then it was made so late that we didn't really have time to move. And it was made so late, it didn't save him anyway. If Superbia honestly did think BF was the cop, surely he would have said it a bit earlier?
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On September 17 2015 06:56 Fidei86 wrote:
@NM I've been thinking a bit about the BF cop claim thing from Superbia. What do you think? I initially thought it looked quite towny, but then it was made so late that we didn't really have time to move. And it was made so late, it didn't save him anyway. If Superbia honestly did think BF was the cop, surely he would have said it a bit earlier?
I've already brought that up.
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On September 14 2015 06:35 Superbia wrote:
Also if you think a mafia would do what I did at EoD you really really need to reconsider. Like I know it's tinfoil town to question everything, but this is as alignment indicative a situation as you would get outside of PR-shenanigans.
This is another post I have issue with, and it flows from the others naturally. I don't get why Superbia was so keen to claim town cred for this? Yes, establishing yourself as town is important. But this feels waaaaaay over the top.
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On September 17 2015 06:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 06:56 Fidei86 wrote:
@NM I've been thinking a bit about the BF cop claim thing from Superbia. What do you think? I initially thought it looked quite towny, but then it was made so late that we didn't really have time to move. And it was made so late, it didn't save him anyway. If Superbia honestly did think BF was the cop, surely he would have said it a bit earlier? I've already brought that up.
I *could* look back through your filter to find it, but wouldn't it be easier for all of us if you did? :-p
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On September 17 2015 06:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:Any world Mafia doesn't kill you? I don't want you to die.
doubt it. you're the only other one universally townread and we have similar reads.
just that I'm mechanically confirmed and you aren't, that's really the only difference.
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You'll bemissed bud, I'll do some catching up later, busy day at work today and phone posting.
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On September 17 2015 06:56 Fidei86 wrote:
@NM I've been thinking a bit about the BF cop claim thing from Superbia. What do you think? I initially thought it looked quite towny, but then it was made so late that we didn't really have time to move. And it was made so late, it didn't save him anyway. If Superbia honestly did think BF was the cop, surely he would have said it a bit earlier?
wait, made so late? how late? minutes left? I have to look at that.
also just thinking, it appears boxerfred has played enough games where if he had to afk I think he would have claimed himself prior to leaving.
[S] Newbie Student Mafia X Mafia Goon Endgamed Night 5
[M][N] I Still Cant Believe its not Themed Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4
[N] Mafia in the Himalayas Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1
[N] TL Mafia LXXI: Gaiden Town Endgamed Day 6
[M][N] Mini Mafia Down Under 3 Town Vanilla Lynched Day 4
[M][N] TL Mafia LXXII: Gaiden 2 Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1
at no point he's been a power role but I'm sure he'd have claimed before leaving. which might make that thought less credible honestly.
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On September 13 2015 07:25 MoosyDoosy wrote:???
On September 13 2015 07:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2015 07:26 Superbia wrote:
He fucking entered the day completely turning on me even though I did not do anything. I think he's the cop with a green on me z_z that is NAI. could be mafia slip.
5 minutes prior to deadline.
that's entirely too close.
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Superbia said boxer was cop like 3 minutes before deadline lol. I called him out on it and told him he was not confirmed town because if he really cared about town he would have said something 10 minutes earlier.
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agreed that's too close, 3 or 5 minutes, it's trivial. it's too close to deadline.
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On September 17 2015 07:02 scott31337 wrote:
You'll bemissed bud, I'll do some catching up later, busy day at work today and phone posting.
cheers. glad I got to replace in. hope town can finish the job though.
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Pleasure playing with you NM :-( Hopefully we can be town together again some time.
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