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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:25 GMT
#3021
On September 16 2015 03:37 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 07:15 CopCake wrote:
On September 09 2015 07:12 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 09 2015 06:59 CopCake wrote:
On September 09 2015 06:34 Fidei86 wrote:
On September 09 2015 06:21 NocturneMage wrote:
damn I lost my last post

gah

md, her top scumreads were you/nk/gb

I faulted her for her reads on you/slam/gb, the n00bking read was reasonable and so didn't cite it

it's possible she's mafia for pushing n00bking, would easily be able to take advantage of that but again at face value it's reasonable, I and plenty others saw fault with nk's gameplay to scumread or vote him

but yet again, this conflicts with her interactions with gb, again assuming gb flips scum

so therefore it's not reasonable to top read her now, not in your current world and not unless you think gb is flipping town

The thing is dude that yes, she did read GB as scum, but the mentions of him were pretty sparse, and she said on more than one occasion that she much preferred to lynch n00b or Moosy. I don't think she gets nearly as much town cred from her GB read as you are giving her.

The issue I have with Cake ... Well there are two.

1. She clearly has her own way of playing and of typing, and I personally find it quite difficult to follow. I just read her entire filter, and it's all so conversational and responsive that it's difficult to get a real sense of where she stands. It's not that this makes her Mafia, it means that my read on her is likely to be bad.

2. I'm kind of confused by her and Rayn having "ride or die" town reads on each other. I think Rayn is about to be exonerated by the GB flip, but cake came into the thread and straight away was convinced Rayn was town. I find that ... Suspicious. Like, you can be friends OOG, like me and HTS (<3) but we're never gonna give each other a free pass in Mafia. Yes, I have a Rayn town read- everyone does. But if you read Cake's filter, you'll see that a LOT of the posts are based on the premise that Rayn is town. If Rayn were to flip Mafia, her filter would be just awful. And that's the best reason to scum read her imo.

So yeah, I think Cake is a scum read for me now. i think before I was taken in by her conversational style, which seemed towny (see point 1 above).

The only reason I hate this read is that it probably makes Moosy town. But my read on Moosy is evolving in the same way as my read on n00b - his posts are too dumb to be Mafia.

Still, that leaves me with only Slam and Rayn as solid town reads, Moosy as 'probably dumb town' and a whole lot of null and cake as a very slight scum lean.


I already said why i town read rayn with scenarios where it is IMPOSSIBLE for him to be scum, like he would be gg next day if GB is an actual doctor.

And I was pretty sure yamato said I was town because it is my normal play style.

CC-
I was reading the nested quote, I have been townreading fidei.

I want to see if you can find what is scummy about it. That post is textbook scum.


I never said fideo was mafia o_O


This is basically the only interaction CopCake has with Alakaslam.

[image loading]


On September 15 2015 16:05 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 07:39 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 06 2015 05:37 Superbia wrote:
On September 06 2015 05:32 NocturneMage wrote:
On September 06 2015 05:05 Superbia wrote:
Also hi replacement.


Hey everyone. Just started reading. If there is anything in particular I should pay attention to as I catch up, give me a shout.

Also RL related - I work in the ER so if I'm at work overnight and something pops up, I will be forced to suddenly disappear from the game. The coming week should not be too crazy hopefully.


1. Look at opening posts.
2. Look at rayn/yamato interaction.
3. GB (fake) claim.
4. Look at rayn/noobking interaction.
Following people:
- noobking
- copcake
- slam

Comments on them in near future pls.

Superbia town



Why do you read Superbia town here?

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2015 15:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Oh, hi there.

I don't think you are understanding CopCake in light of something very important.

@CopCake: please read this first before the spoiler. Everyone else can skip straight to the spoiler.

Adentro (?), yo - ah, insult?- su Ingles. Lo siento. Por favor, recordar yo es estudiante de Español que no sa- be o ve- bien. Y escuchar malo XD

Entonces, primera la enojarsas possible diga me mejor accento en voice mafia, porque mi accento es MUY gringo...

+ Show Spoiler +
English second language sir. I think some meaning is being lost in missing words here and there. English is a really wordy language, oftentimes I find I am misunderstood in written communications because I am busy being my odd self plus a slight latinization of my points.

I don't read CopCake as scum at all thus far. She strikes me as frustrated but also kind of relying on Rayn as he is a good communicator who is also ESL. so, when Rayn largely disagrees with you and is being his usual bull-headed self, she strikes you as unreasonable to the point of suspicion.



I didn't know Copcake was ESL until later in the thread.

Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 06:49 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 07 2015 06:47 Superbia wrote:
Oh yeah. Opinions on noobking/glowingbear/copcake please pre-flip. From everyone.

Noobking- Mafia
Glowingbear- Neutral (town-lean before but yamato/rayn buttfucking town-lean)
Copcake- No idea.

Noobking: not sure, townlean
Glowinfbear: mafia
CopCake: town


So we all know this to be incorrect - but from a mafia standpoint - what makes the most sense?

Slam gets quiet for a bit about Copcake until

Show nested quote +
On September 11 2015 08:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:57 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:42 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 11 2015 07:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
and my reads are shitty? i've been right on n00bKing AND rayn and YET you guys STILL WON'T LISTEN TO ME. what the fuck were u doing doctor.

You didn't exactly catch GB, and you don't know how to be blue. The doctor apparently does.

To your credit I think you might have been voting GB? I can't remember

no i was not voting for GB because i thought that copcake was mafia. however I CLEARLY said that i was fine with gb dying but that i was just more confident in my copcake read. i already explained this to rayn during night after which he backed off and asked me for my reads. so gtfo.

no. why the fuck would i be happy. this was an EASY save for doctor had he not tried to act “super cool” and try to pull off a meta save. YOU DON’T DO THAT. YOU SAVE THE PERSON WHO IS IMPORTANT TO TOWN and don’t try to be cute with your saves.

doctor might not exist


Mafia knows the setup though.

Slam is an experienced player that could WIFOM this - ehhh?

I thought Moosy was mafia and there is no way from it by his tunnel on Copcake. We know better now.

"You were right!"

Slam's interactions with Copcake feel more natural from what I've read.

Superbia gets lynched tomorrow.

Like only one page earlier man
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:26 GMT
#3022
On September 17 2015 11:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am here. Anyone in particular Slamerino?

I love the lynch all liars policy frankly

And I think I just found Scott trying one out
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:27 GMT
#3023
On September 16 2015 08:10 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Eh, I’m pretty sure that this game is in wraps, but I promise to do some tinfoil application, dig through filters and bring out some points if I find anything interesting.

Hm…so you’re saying you think we should lynch Slam over Superbia even though Slam gave some reads and Superbia flatly refuses to support his reads and has been acting scummy this entire time?

To be fair that is an acceptable policy even now.

Enjoy the merlot.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:33 GMT
#3024
On September 16 2015 08:35 Fidei86 wrote:
Meh. You make a good argument. Both seem to totally have given up. And only one of them can be Mafia. I guess we lynch whichever seems to want it least tomorrow? I'm just terrified of sending it to LyLo with a player who can't be bothered. If they're Mafia, we win, but on the off chance they're not, we literally cannot win. And since I'm definitely going to be in LyLo I think, I'm going to be the one who has to make this damned decision.

Interesting...

My situation is by force. I am giving you what I can during this hour, but you are right- I am giving you guys a bad decision here. Sorry.

I guess it is possible I hard bussed GlowingBear yet decided to hard defend CopCake since she was role blocker. But look for a mafia game called something like "back to the basics" (in the database, under me, I was scum and achieved glorious victory)

Check out what I did there. If I was scum I would likely have been chewing them BOTH out immediately and they'd have both been at my throat from day 1. Because that strategy has a very good success rate when I have the time.

As it is, well, I was unusually well right- sorry I couldn't keep it up. I fell for Svengali via outside matters

VayneAuthority's assessment: SLAM NOT LYNCH BECAUSE GIRL

truth: slam not lynch because Mexican girl :/

Thawwee

Anyway, my own prejudices aside. I did what I did I must go back to reading.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:34 GMT
#3025
On September 16 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:
Mostly because Yamato has probably solved this game from the ObsQT and will roast me royally if I go the wrong way. IDK if that's a good reason though?

Hijole bring not down the rage of Kyle

I fear this
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:35 GMT
#3026
On September 16 2015 09:48 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 07:36 Fidei86 wrote:
I think that qualifies as the least exciting flip I've been through in TLM.

I really think that town need to kick it back up a notch tonight. There's one mafia left, and we're in serious danger of AFKing through a Slam/Superbia lynch. Not that I don't currently think that that's a bad plan - I absolutely think we should lynch IN THAT ORDER (slam first, no quitters allowed at LYLO plox), but there is still tons of time for them to pick this up and turn it around if they're town. And at least one of them has to be.

Anyway, realise that it's scummy to demand action and not take any myself. But really, without Superbia trying to find scum outside of Slam and me (which is useless to me, because I know I'm town and obviously Slam is the other lynch target), or Slam ... you know ... explaining his attempted seppuku, we're kind of stuck.


I noticed Slam /out'ed of the other game and I know he was psyched to play that game - so I know he's not going to have much time - I'm glad he mentioned it, so I could.

I would rather lynch Superbia, well because of votes - the above - among other things before Alakaslam.

Could you elaborate more on it besides the quitting thing?



It is true... I wish I could have been in that. I literally am strapped, multinational affairs...
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:36 GMT
#3027
On September 16 2015 09:49 scott31337 wrote:
And Superbia has a higher chance of flipping the godfather in my opinion.

Y

Y not u, u liar of lying sson
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:36 GMT
#3028
On September 16 2015 10:56 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 06:21 n00bKing wrote:
On September 07 2015 06:18 Superbia wrote:
And you even spelled my name wrong.

YUP. By the way, if GlowingBear were to be lynched today, you better hope he flips Town. Because if he were to flip Red, you've just placed yourself in a position where it looks like you're trying to use your vote to protect him.


K actually the very next post is good.

Whoops.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:37 GMT
#3029
On September 16 2015 11:19 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 06:54 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 07 2015 06:52 n00bKing wrote:
On September 07 2015 06:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 07 2015 04:00 GlowingBear wrote:
If people are going against lurkers, than we should lynch the scummiest, and not someone who is most likely a question mark. Scott fits the scummy lurker cartegory

? boxerfred would be the most scummy lurker here based on his post. scott has actually posted a lot by his own standards and he's actually showing decent reads this time around.

Scott had not posted a lot by his standards (or anyone's standards) at the time GB made that post.

And I vouch this, doesn't change my opinion on GB however


Why not go for the ML? If he's mafia - he knows n00bking is town though - and I am as well. He's going to bus GB the whole time when no one was suspicious of GB so when town actually sees GB's scummyness we'll swap to him on a whim?

Scott town I sheep him now.

##Superbia

Hopefully I get more time but I sorely doubt it.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:40 GMT
#3030
On September 16 2015 14:02 scott31337 wrote:
There's only one mafia left and Alakaslam and Superbia suck.

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:42 GMT
#3031
On September 16 2015 15:10 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 14:15 NocturneMage wrote:
If MoosyDoosy is in three man lylo with Superbia and Fidei....oh man.

More tinfoil.


Help me out here though -

You're dead tomorrow.

It's me/Scott, Slam, Fidei, MD, and Superbia.

Only one mafia and four are town.

Only town have partners - mafia does not.

Superbia and Slam are sucking right now - I believe Slam's IRL excuse - Superbia has none at the moment.

I've checked some tinfoil theories that MD is mafia - and I have to go in the cause that if he is - I give him the game for him on CopCake the WHOLE game. This theory is unreasonable - doesn't fit - doesn't make sense - deserves to win.

If Fidei is mafia - yeah - <5% - basically tinfoil - I've read this thread multiple times - He was off on things, but his progression fits. I thought he was the cop but I was incorrect - and mafia didn't know either. It's why I townread him a little more than other people.
Md had a decent point about Fidei "assuming" we are going to LYLO though.

I've posted Superbia's wishy washyness - and reading the D1 filter on how the GB lynch went down - I'm about 89% sure he's the last mafia - unsure about GB - unsure about Copcake - the claims - I've posted all of this. Should be the lynch tomorrow.

Slam did the magic phat bus (I'm claiming those words) on GB the whole game too if he's mafia. He was really posty (and was Breshke) that I feel fits a more town meta. I think I may break out some TL mafia database to back this up. Slam is still #2 and should be lynched next - 15%?. Reasonably, nothing else makes sense.

Holy wrf no.

No.

You can't clear me as essentially town in one breath and then set up for lynch AT LYLO WHEN YOU ARE SAYING AT THE SAME TIME EXACTLY HOW GONE I AM GOING TO BE

MY NARCISSISM SAVES THIS GAME. Vote Scott.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:44 GMT
#3032
SCOTT IS SCUM SCOTT IS IT

DONT LYNCH SUPERVIA! B. SCOTT IS IT!!!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:47 GMT
#3033
SCOTT IS SO SCUM YOU ARW ALL BATS

I SEE WITH THE EYES OF CHUPAZI OPEN YOUR OWN EYES !!!

BATS CAN SEE BUT THEY NEVER DECIDE TO!

Here you see it!!

Look into the forbidden champagne, the merlot given by the homeowner, the Cabernet of the master of sports

It is written on the wall! I need not read any more! I am here to chat for about another 15-30 mins or so, come quick! Imma watch!
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 17 2015 02:47 GMT
#3034
w0t? I don't understand. What exactly is weird about that post?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:47 GMT
#3035
Where the heck did you go? I literally own this page.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 17 2015 02:48 GMT
#3036
On September 17 2015 11:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Where the heck did you go? I literally own this page.

I was reading through your thoughts and going w0w this man is see-sawing everywhere on scott. So what exactly is scummy about that post again?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:49 GMT
#3037
On September 17 2015 11:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:
w0t? I don't understand. What exactly is weird about that post?

His stance on me!

Act like you are me. Read the last page or so of Scott's filter and ping my name as if it's yourself. Then ask yourself: is he not setting up a lynch on your gone self for a scum win?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 17 2015 02:52 GMT
#3038
I honestly don't see it. I think you're overreacting over him parsing over your filter and scum reading you. Also, he's just saying that you're likely to be scum if Superbia isn't.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
September 17 2015 02:52 GMT
#3039
On September 17 2015 11:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 11:47 Alakaslam wrote:
Where the heck did you go? I literally own this page.

I was reading through your thoughts and going w0w this man is see-sawing everywhere on scott. So what exactly is scummy about that post again?

Because Scott is good at pocketing me and I am reading his own see-saw on me! Go read the last page or two of his filter, with a focus on my name. Act as if you are me, and you know you will have to be gone and he is one of the few people who actually "understands" that while everyone else is whining as if you are purposely leaving (-_-)

There is no other conclusion than relief/at least he gets it -> wtf what is he trying with that -> phew he still gets it -> WHAT NO. JUST NO.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 17 2015 02:55 GMT
#3040
So you're saying scott's progression on you is this?
Slam is scum -> Slam may not be scum -> Slam is scum after Superbia
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
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