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Message Blazinghand if you request a ban please ^_^
Also when the game you're sitting out is over!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18425 Posts
January 24 2017 17:24 GMT
#1521
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 24 2017 17:25 GMT
#1522
Inspector Javert was probably Palmar. Anybody knows?
I had a good night of sleep.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-24 17:30:11
January 24 2017 17:28 GMT
#1523
Koshi, please do not double, triple post etc outside of mafia threads--you're allowed to edit your posts here. Thanks!

Additionally, the matter concerning those ban list actions by GM from 2015 is closed. However, if you'd like to PM me to discuss things, please feel welcome to do so.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 24 2017 17:30 GMT
#1524
On January 25 2017 02:24 Koshi wrote:
I am also pretty sure that was after a 13p game in which I rolled mafia and town had a double shot vig, a doc, a cop and an aware miller vs 2 goons and a gf.

*2 goons and a framer

Good times.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 24 2017 17:33 GMT
#1525
On January 25 2017 02:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 02:24 Koshi wrote:
I am also pretty sure that was after a 13p game in which I rolled mafia and town had a double shot vig, a doc, a cop and an aware miller vs 2 goons and a gf.

*2 goons and a framer

Good times.

God bless Horns of Africa.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 24 2017 17:34 GMT
#1526
On January 25 2017 02:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 02:24 Koshi wrote:
I am also pretty sure that was after a 13p game in which I rolled mafia and town had a double shot vig, a doc, a cop and an aware miller vs 2 goons and a gf.

*2 goons and a framer

Good times.

Oh and did I forget the tripple lynch D1?
I had a good night of sleep.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-24 17:50:32
January 24 2017 17:47 GMT
#1527
On November 10 2015 10:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2015 03:18 Koshi wrote:
On October 16 2015 08:23 Koshi wrote:
On April 28 2015 07:19 Onegu wrote:
STOP


On April 28 2015 07:25 Koshi wrote:
Joke hosts. Modkill a 3 page filter player because he forgot to vote.
Warnings don't exist.
Nothing in the rules about modkilling if you forget to vote.

Total joke.

Game is invalid already.


cba. You can kill me.

On April 28 2015 07:32 Koshi wrote:
Alakaslam did nothing wrong that affected this game.
Yet he gets modkilled and the game is host interfered.
Nobody cares ofc.

joke.


What does stop even mean? Does stop actually stop? Maybe Onegu dressed like a bad host and was therefore verbally assaulted?

I got 3 game ban for these 2 posts. After a host modkilled a player for inactivity on D1 who had a 3 page filter and voted (but in wrong thread)


Having reviewed the case, taking a look at the series of posts you made after the modkill:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/482487-hajime-no-ippo-maifa?user=Koshi&page=9

The posting was not acceptable based on the rules of the game (and common rules about modkills anyways) so a 1-game ban was appropriate. The reason you got a 3-game ban, judging by what the hosts posted, and your moderation history was due to factors beyond the 1-game ban:

1. You had previously gotten one ban, which means your "previous bans" count was 1, meaning the smallest ban you could get was 3 games.
2. You had two warnings, though only one applies. One you got a month earlier in march (still active), and one you got in September of the previous year (expired in December).

The rules then (and now):
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 04:42 GMarshal wrote:
Punishments
There are three categories of punishments: semi-permanent bans, punishments following the Banned Game Count, and warnings.

Semi-permanent bans happen after especially egregious actions in games, such as threatening to ruin the game. Expect these punishments to last months if not years. If you get removed from this, your Banned Game Count will be artificially inflated.

The Banned Game Count applies to most modkills (including modkills for inactivity) and is calculated as follows: 2N - 1 where N = the number of times you have been banned. So the first time you get banned, your count is 1. The second time, your Count is 3. If you are modkilled for going inactive in 2 games at once, your Banned Game Count will be calculated as if you were modkilled in one game, but you will receive a warning upon being taken off the Ban List . We reserve the right to artificially inflate your Banned Game Count based upon conduct not meriting a semi-permanent ban, but also not meriting a standard ban.

Warnings are generally given out if the host is trying to be nice, or your conduct doesn't quite meet what they think is ban-worthy. Each warning you get adds 1 to your Banned Game Count the next time you are banned. Generally hosts are less likely to give you leniency if you already have a warning. You can be removed from the warning list after playing 3 games with no action taken against you.


Request: As the system goes, you did something for which you'd get a 1-game ban as a base.

Previous Ban: As someone who had previously been banned (in Jack of all Trades Mafia (link)), you instead get a 3-game ban. Taking a look at this, this was a run of the mill ban, and you laudably sat out Mafia Mini Mafia despite GM's slow motion, so nothing unusual here.

Oustanding Warning: You had one outstanding warning, from Mafia XXX.

So, 1 game ban, +2 for previous banned game, +1 for 1 active warning comes out to a 4 game ban if GM had been paying attention.

In general, it seems like you have been eager to play TL Mafia and could be a valuable member of the community, despite your intransigence dealing with hosts, co-hosts, and other players. GM didn't actually review your case in any meaningful way; this was during the last year of his ban list moderation when he basically didn't read the list and just approved things. I suspect that if he had time to look over things you'd have gotten a 4 game ban, one for the one-game ban your rule violation actually merited, two more based on previous ban, and one because of the +1 your pre-existing warning gives you.

So, you have a 4-game ban. Since you've asked me for this review, and you did indeed not get modkilled or push boundaries in the 2 games you played in while banned, and managed to keep your level of personal insults on this side of the line, I'm reducing the 4-game ban to a 3-game ban in a show of good faith. Since you've already sat out two games, you only have one ban left.

You're now free to play TL Mafia once you've sat out one more game, OR contributed to our renewed library initiative!




Can we go ahead and give Koshi that 4th game now?

@Koshi

Why do you want to keep beating a dead horse? It was my first game hosting ever. I admitted to a mistake. I still say it was a mistake. And if that was the first time you had tried to ruin a game I wouldnt have asked for a 3 game ban. You got a 3 game because of what you did in JoaT mafia like 2 months before.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
January 24 2017 17:49 GMT
#1528
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-24 18:21:23
January 24 2017 18:20 GMT
#1529
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
January 24 2017 18:26 GMT
#1530
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 24 2017 18:27 GMT
#1531
@Onegu Well, after this. Go tell the jews that they should stop complaining about what Hitler did. Dead horse beating and stuff.

I still cannot believe I got modkilled for fucking nothing. And nobody ever got banned for "being banned before" bullshit and it didn't count for me either. I just got arbitrary 3 games because nobody knows why.

What did I do wrong that game? Say it is completely retarded a guy got modkilled for forgetting to vote? Claiming mafia as town? Why?

User was temp banned for this post.
I had a good night of sleep.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 24 2017 18:27 GMT
#1532
On January 25 2017 02:25 Koshi wrote:
Inspector Javert was probably Palmar. Anybody knows?

It was JAT or bats.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 24 2017 18:27 GMT
#1533
On January 25 2017 03:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 02:25 Koshi wrote:
Inspector Javert was probably Palmar. Anybody knows?

It was JAT or bats.

THE BETRAYAL IS REAL
I had a good night of sleep.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
January 24 2017 18:28 GMT
#1534
On January 25 2017 03:27 Koshi wrote:
@Onegu Well, after this. Go tell the jews that they should stop complaining about what Hitler did. Dead horse beating and stuff.

I still cannot believe I got modkilled for fucking nothing. And nobody ever got banned for "being banned before" bullshit and it didn't count for me either. I just got arbitrary 3 games because nobody knows why.

What did I do wrong that game? Say it is completely retarded a guy got modkilled for forgetting to vote? Claiming mafia as town? Why?

Wtf is wrong with you
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-24 18:40:02
January 24 2017 18:30 GMT
#1535
On January 25 2017 03:27 Koshi wrote:
@Onegu Well, after this. Go tell the jews that they should stop complaining about what Hitler did. Dead horse beating and stuff.

I still cannot believe I got modkilled for fucking nothing. And nobody ever got banned for "being banned before" bullshit and it didn't count for me either. I just got arbitrary 3 games because nobody knows why.

What did I do wrong that game? Say it is completely retarded a guy got modkilled for forgetting to vote? Claiming mafia as town? Why?



WOW KOSHI JUST COMPARED HIMSELF GETTING A 3 GAME BAN TO GOING TO A CONCENTRATION CAMP!!!

All the reasons I have already gave.

And yes it has always been if you get banned 2 games in a row your ban count isnt 1 game and then 1 game. It has been in the banlist OP for ages how it works.


The Banned Game Count applies to most modkills (including modkills for inactivity) and is calculated as follows: 2N - 1 where N = the number of times you have been banned. So the first time you get banned, your count is 1. The second time, your Count is 3. If you are modkilled for going inactive in 2 games at once, your Banned Game Count will be calculated as if you were modkilled in one game, but you will receive a warning upon being taken off the Ban List . We reserve the right to artificially inflate your Banned Game Count based upon conduct not meriting a semi-permanent ban, but also not meriting a standard ban.

This is from the OG OP^
Try TL Mafia!!!
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 24 2017 18:31 GMT
#1536
On January 25 2017 03:27 Koshi wrote:
@Onegu Well, after this. Go tell the jews that they should stop complaining about what Hitler did. Dead horse beating and stuff.

I still cannot believe I got modkilled for fucking nothing. And nobody ever got banned for "being banned before" bullshit and it didn't count for me either. I just got arbitrary 3 games because nobody knows why.

What did I do wrong that game? Say it is completely retarded a guy got modkilled for forgetting to vote? Claiming mafia as town? Why?


Where did the calm koshi go.

What did i read.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
January 24 2017 18:33 GMT
#1537
This is the same guy who compared his treatment to black people being lynched. It's not that surprising.

Obligatory.

justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
January 24 2017 18:34 GMT
#1538
On January 25 2017 03:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2017 02:25 Koshi wrote:
Inspector Javert was probably Palmar. Anybody knows?

It was JAT or bats.

Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
January 24 2017 18:37 GMT
#1539
On January 25 2017 03:33 Calix wrote:
This is the same guy who compared his treatment to black people being lynched. It's not that surprising.

Obligatory.




Just shows you there is something seriously wrong with the dude.
Try TL Mafia!!!
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-01-24 18:55:30
January 24 2017 18:43 GMT
#1540
You know.. Now that koshi mentions it I do see a certain correlation between the TLMafia banlist actions against him and the historic and horrific systematic eradication of millions of people.
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