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On August 13 2015 22:46 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 22:38 Vivax wrote:
Alone the fact that your heuristic turned out to be whether he has reads or not based on what Damdred said makes your decision look pretty bad tbh.
So who are you scumreading now rso?
What about VE being tempted by that something you wrote ye well, i don't know how to read hopeless as either alignment. i thought rayn had a way; he didn't. at least not in any way that he could explain. it was as simple as scumread over null read, and as i said when i changed votes, i didn't mind a hopeless lynch? i just preferred condor or prp...later just condor it's not exactly the rocket science y'all are making it out to be lol >< and chez is almost definitely scum regardless of hopeless' alignment, btw he spends all day pushing truffle, having no other reads that i can discern, and then voting with truffle on condor as for ve, why should it surprise me that he wants to vote condor with me when he wanted to vote condor before? why should it surprise anyone? it doesn't make him town, but it certainly doesn't make him scum, either @.@
I figured now that hopeless posted reads, you'd actually have a reason to scumread him?
I don't see what other argument has been brought up for him being mafia that could have convinced you to vote for him early in the day other than him not having reads.
Then you see that he can have reads as mafia and put him down the priority list.
Now that he actually posted reads, you're back to null or what?
It just doesn't make sense to me how you don't even try to consider him for scum any more after what you said yesterday.
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On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum.
Yeah rso has a preference for low hanging fruit this game.
Except now she doesn't try to pick hopeless based on something Damdred said.
Checking hopeless games properly without using the given lense would have revealed to her that hopeless just plays differently across games, and it seems too gullible/unbelievable to me she would use such a simple heuristic to make her decision.
Can't get rid of the feeling she put hopeless into her scumreads for convenience, and removed him from them for convenience.
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On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?
you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.
this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum. so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp
I tunneled Ruxxar most of the day and voted with him, so how is that an argument?
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On August 13 2015 23:09 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 23:08 Vivax wrote:On August 13 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:On August 13 2015 23:02 prplhz wrote:
then what is it about? what happened that made you change your mind on me?
you should stop thinking you can read chez because i probably can't lol. you already said that deconduo (another veteran) was scum because you didn't understand the way he played, turned out it was wrong. now you're saying the exact same thing about chez. you can't read chez because he just does whatever the fuck and you can't rely on him for shit. and when you base your reads around thinking the least readable player in this game is definitely scum then you're going to be super wrong and that's a bad move and i don't like it when people make bad moves that they ought to know are bad moves.
this chez thing is decon all over again so stop doing it or convince me he is scum. so how exactly is it town chez to tunnel truffle all game and then vote with him? explain that one to me, prp I tunneled Ruxxar most of the day and voted with him, so how is that an argument? that wasn't your only read, now was it, dumbass?
Okay, and what about VE?
Only read Trfel, votes with him based on what you said.
Yet you feel more comfortable going after Chez, I can figure out why you're blind on the Viscera eye.
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I'm not reviewing anything, I think VE is mafia and you are mafia, you can split hairs all you want but making your argument used on somebody like Chez so narrow and then deflecting the accusation that other people have been doing the same with some little deviations from what Chez did, who has the benefit of being chez, is ridiculous.
So far all you've been pushing are literal lynch baits. VE's switch to hopeless didn't even make sense at all considering the post you quoted.
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I look forward to seeing who you want to lynch tomorrow rso.
On VE:
On August 12 2015 13:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yo I changed my mind.
##Unvote
##Vote: deconduo
His read on me was way out of left field, based on a throwaway comment in my opening post. It would have been fine if left at that, but he actually goes on to try and defend his laughable reasoning. He's mafia.
On August 13 2015 06:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm okay with a Hopeless lynch.
##Unvote
##Vote: Hopeless1der
And then he just changes opinion again based on what rso digs up regarding hopeless having reads or not?
This isn't town VE. He can drive D1 lynches and he is more confident about his reads (I remember Guardians when he was all over Artanis for cultivating a lynch on him) , but in this case all he did was bounce around and act like rayn's opinion meant something.
Guardians filter:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=VisceraEyes&page=3
The feeling he simply doesn't care about his own opinion after he acts like he found scum is mafiaish.
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Why are you posting this drivel
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Not sure I can really buy anyone who says he's suspicious of Trfel, looks pretty town to me.
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On August 14 2015 00:07 Damdred wrote:
Trfels is interesting, pro is interesting day but he's been acting towny during the night, ve vote bugs me and will look really bad when hope flips scum and chez vote looks meh but that one just is.
Mostly said that cause of this post. Usually you can do better than just delivering a chain of what if's.
VE vote looks bad but only when hope flips mafia? Nah. It looks bad either way.
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On August 14 2015 00:57 Damdred wrote:
Oh stop being an asshole vivax, I think your town get the stick out of your ass.
If hope flips town mafia ve shouldn't care which town his vote is on and could of afks rather than lynch someone else, if hope is scum it looks worse because saving scum partner comes into play.
This game doesn't work this way. You put the wrong question into the room which allows you to ignore VE for the time being since it's just wifom.
The question is why VE lacked that much motivation to just keep being on decon, and going for decon.
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You are using the exact same argument that made town lose guardians cause of Toad "ccing when he doesn't have to".
I'd get the stick out of my ass if your head wasn't in your own.
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Ruxxar, can you link me the game where trfel was scum? I can't remember actually seeing him play scum.
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On August 14 2015 01:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
But that's only if it's a thing. I don't think it will because while I've been here, I've been pretty town.
No you haven't, unless you're on drugs and for some reason your play is completely abysmal by your usual standards.
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On August 14 2015 01:29 ruXxar wrote:
Vivax can I get a short list of your top scum sand town?
Ask me again during the day, or I might post one before I go to bed but right now I cba to set everything in stone, I still have enough to narrow down.
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I'm moving Artanis to town pile disregarding the questioning I didn't like yesterday, and taking rayn's word for him being town.
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VE and Damdred is a combination I like atm.
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On August 13 2015 09:24 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2015 09:21 Trfel wrote:
Hopeless1der, do you have any thoughts to share at all? Town: Rsoul rayn vivax artanis townish: damdred palmar trfel null: chez scummish: ruxxar prplhz deconduo VE man thats a shitty list...
On August 13 2015 09:26 Trfel wrote:
Why the scumread on VisceraEyes?
On August 13 2015 09:27 Damdred wrote:
Cause ve isn't trying at all I guess. Do you tr him trfel?
How can Damdred be awar of VE to the point he answers a question directed to hopeless and still have such a low interest into talking about him is what caught my eye.
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On August 14 2015 02:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like if you want to read me mafia for stuff I've done then fine Vivax, but as rsoultin has showed you already, I was suspicious of Decon BEFORE the Hopeless sheep, and I went BACK to my original preference when it became possible. IN SPITE of openly stating in the thread that I'm cementing my vote to rayn's. So....unless you think that I, as mafia, do something like that, IN FULL VIEW OF EVERYONE, WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF HOPELESS BEING STORM VOTED IN THE NIGHT, then you keep on your little retard tunnel of retardation. I'm going to keep playing my game and doing what I can when I can.
I'm not tying what you did to hopeless alignment. I'm tying it to the fact you did it to cause confusion and appear in doubt when I don't buy you being in doubt in that situation to the point of shortly abandoning your former scumread.
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On August 14 2015 02:18 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2015 02:17 Vivax wrote:On August 14 2015 02:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like if you want to read me mafia for stuff I've done then fine Vivax, but as rsoultin has showed you already, I was suspicious of Decon BEFORE the Hopeless sheep, and I went BACK to my original preference when it became possible. IN SPITE of openly stating in the thread that I'm cementing my vote to rayn's. So....unless you think that I, as mafia, do something like that, IN FULL VIEW OF EVERYONE, WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF HOPELESS BEING STORM VOTED IN THE NIGHT, then you keep on your little retard tunnel of retardation. I'm going to keep playing my game and doing what I can when I can. I'm not tying what you did to hopeless alignment. I'm tying it to the fact you did it to cause confusion and appear in doubt when I don't buy you being in doubt in that situation to the point of shortly abandoning your former scumread. Well that's your opinion based on your GUESS of my alignment, there's nothing objectively scummy about my switch A) because I'm town B) because my reasoning was explicit in the thread in full view of everyone. Anyone was free to disagree with or take issue with my reasoning and no one did, yourself included. Get fucked.
Going back and rereading things POSTFLIP and taking issue with that is perfectly legit, and I'm not taking rayn's word on you. Simply saying you're in the clear cause nobody immediately took issue with your play at the time with less information available is a shitty argument.
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And you won't get town cause you say you're town, bitch please.
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