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Oh Trfel said a thing. Hang on.
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On July 07 2015 09:41 Trfel wrote:LightningStrike- Responses to scumreads
+ Show Spoiler +On July 06 2015 07:32 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:28 geript wrote:On July 06 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:On July 06 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
##vote trfel
Super over explained afk entry excuse post You already got a vote on someone like he's scum it not going to be just his entrance it would be for other things as the game goes on... Scum #2 I've caught. I not what are smoking bro? Weed? Crack? When he gets scumread by geript, he just says he's not scum, and then says that something must be impeding geript's ability to read him. He responds to geript's scumread, but without providing any content. He doesn't actually ask geript why he had this scumread, doesn't think about geript's alignment at all, and seemingly assumes that geript is town. Furthermore, I'm not used to LightningStrike being this aggressive in his wording. On July 06 2015 08:36 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:35 Breshke wrote:
I also really like damdreds read on LS here. The fact that you didn't meta scott straight away makes it more likely you are your lazy scum self LS
It always feels good sheeping damdred. Choo Choo
##Vote Lightningstrike I not scum what are you and Damdred smoking? Cocaine? Weed? Alcohol? Jesus Christ you are bad Breshke. Again, he's really aggressive about the claim, and assumes that Breshke is town. There are more examples, they're all similar. Contrast this to other games, for example Himalayas: On June 17 2015 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote:
So ok claiming town which means ls is scum Really because I actually rolled scum so therefore you must be scum! + Show Spoiler + I've never seen LightningStrike respond to scumreads as aggressively as he has in this game.
- Changes his play in response to pressure, early townread on Damdred
+ Show Spoiler +On July 06 2015 07:46 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
If you dislike playing mafia with anyone play voice mafia with them you 100% love those people later.
Ls what do you make of Scott asking rs for her read on you so early? Any experiences with him? Pretty weird esp because rsoultin said last game she can't read me well but she still had a town lean on me there. I had played with scott before but only when he was scum O_o On July 06 2015 07:48 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:47 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 07:46 LightningStrike wrote:On July 06 2015 07:42 Damdred wrote:
If you dislike playing mafia with anyone play voice mafia with them you 100% love those people later.
Ls what do you make of Scott asking rs for her read on you so early? Any experiences with him? Pretty weird esp because rsoultin said last game she can't read me well but she still had a town lean on me there. I had played with scott before but only when he was scum O_o Oh? I think I've played with town Scott once. But ls any other thoughts about him? Not much to go on him yet. This is his first discussion about reading people in this game. Damdred responds like this: On July 06 2015 07:55 Damdred wrote:
Maybe I'm expecting to much but you obviously are leaning one way on Scott currently and you have said that you played multiple times with him.
Usually you would throw that meta and five me a preliminary call now you just lazily tell me you don't have enough. Even if it is super early you do it as town a lot but never as scum. And LightningStrike responded like this: Which doesn't actually do anything to help his case. "Hey LightningStrike, you're scum because you didn't do this." "Okay, I did it, am I cool now?" On July 06 2015 08:10 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:09 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:08 LightningStrike wrote:On July 06 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
@ rs maybe your new read should go in the trash the damdred train is going past the ls lynch this day. Na her read on me is correct maybe your LS reading machine is overheating from last game thus not working correctly? Also on the note about scott: As scum seems to be more obvious as the game progresses I only skimmed some of his filter from his last two town games and I still need more posts from him to determine his alignment by meta. do you have any town at this point? Damdred even if he's wrong on me I see Town Damdred this game. The townread on Damdred feels very out of place. This is the only read he's made to this point in the game. Also, note the wording, he says "if" instead of "though". LightningStrike ought to know that he is town... On July 06 2015 11:18 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 11:16 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 11:13 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 11:06 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 11:04 Damdred wrote:On July 06 2015 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 10:57 Damdred wrote:
I'm back.
Kel I don't get it, you really like my points on ls which I feel is really strong and getting stronger by the second.
But instead you judge me based on the structure of a town read and don't even mention the ls read that you liked? That's kind of strange how i like to read you and rsoul is how you read eachother, your town read on her is less developed than usual i cant explain that shit. so i liked the ls case, but ls....like i just fucking hate whenever he types so if i ignore all that shit and try to play outside of that id ont like you make sens I'm not sure I follow 100%. example if you don't like a town read that's ok, but you like another read is developed with support you want to discard because you don't like him anyway? So you don't like me. that doesn't make sense and you are discarding part of my game play for no real reason it feels uneven and unnecessary coming from you im basically not sure i believe your LS read anymore and anything connected to LS is always slightly aids so im looking at your rs read and it doesnt feel as good im not 100% i just dont like you in my gut i guess it dpeends what ls does What does it even mean that my RS read didn't feel as good? Not as condensed as assassins where I had to be vs different here and the last game I played in? So you are scum reading me (sorta) on style rather than content? And you don't think my Ks read is good anymore when he is 100% still going against meta? well..it is like this. scott apparently has few games played and LS did explain the read of like "oh you get him later" LS is...well like you never know wtf is happening. so i think a few pages its hard to say well fuck yeh he is lazy...it just doesnt feel good...fuck i cant explain that properly so i feel like your LS scum is dishonest and your rsoul is town feels like a cheap rsoul is town comparitively Damdred is wrong about my alignment and Damdred does normally rsouls alignment correctly but he wrong on my alignment this game but that wont make him scum if he is scum. And it continues. He doesn't take any effort to explain this Damdred read at all. And he's so aggressive towards others who scumread him. It feels like he just townread Damdred to appease him. When LightningStrike finally gives a reason for townreading Damdred (in his list post), it's because Damdred is putting in effort. Which wasn't the case when LightningStrike first gave his townread of Damdred.
- Meek tone when asking people for reads
+ Show Spoiler +One of LightningStrike's most commonly asked questions to people is "what are your reads, please?" On July 06 2015 08:41 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:41 ritoky wrote:
hi, i am town. i will be back when relevant information is being posted. bye. Drive By Posting seems common this game O_o Normally, I would expect LightningStrike to ask a question to ritoky, such as "When you return, please share your reads" or something like that. In the Himalayas game, he asked this question very early on. But here, he just comments. No question, no conclusion, just a comment. On July 06 2015 11:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Oats while you at it can you explain your reads on the people you quoted please? On July 06 2015 12:30 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 12:29 milo109 wrote:
Alright you people are boring. I'll be back in the morning. When you wake up care to give me your thoughts? On July 06 2015 22:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Good morning Tina any thoughts you would like to share? Compare this to Assassination Mafia: On May 11 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
@Marv: What are your current reads?
@Palmar: Thoughts so far in the thread? On May 14 2015 06:13 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 05:57 Damdred wrote:
Sorry been afk had a hell of a day. Should cat h up and be productive shortly When you are caught up can I have your reads please? On May 14 2015 22:47 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2015 22:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 13 2015 09:00 Hapahauli wrote:Final Day 1 Vote Count: Vivax (8) - BlazingHand, Marvellosity, Xatalos, Half The Sky, KelsierSC, TalkingDead, Justanothertownie, Oatsmaster, Xatalos (2) - Vivax, LightningStrike Rsoultin (1) - Onegu Palmar (1) - RebirthOfLegend Sandroba (2) - Palmar, Batsnacks BlazingHand (7) - rsoultin, Sandroba, Yamato77, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred, Trfel, GlowingBear, Just for informational purposes. Hello VE thoughts so far on everyone? There's a very clear difference in tone between these games. On June 17 2015 08:04 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2015 08:02 Damdred wrote:
Nydus and ls are my first hard town reads of the game.
Kel is a town lean.
I'm town, this is a good start Any thoughts on other people atm? I would like to know what you thinking that's all. Here's a counter-example from Himalayas. However, I haven't seen LightningStrike play like this as town before, and it still feels like his tone is more meek in this game than his other town games (even the Himalays quote). Furthermore, he's being more aggressive towards people who scumread him this game than in other games. Why is he more aggressive in response to scumreads, but more defensive when asking people for reads? It doesn't make sense.
There is one more reason, possibly the strongest reason. But I need to see what people think about this before I could consider sharing it. And no, I'm not going to say what it is at this time, so don't ask.
rolf you casing me is cute. But not as cute as me :O Also I had asked people in the past if they were on drugs and shit before regarding their read on me. But meh your reasons are null at best for my meta............
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On July 07 2015 09:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this.
Pretty much my thoughts as well, I don't recognize Trfel at all.
And I don't even know what Rsoul is doing, fucking deflection to the max.
Am I the only one seeing HF making sense here? Jesus christ, the man just wanted an answer.
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On July 07 2015 09:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
LS is not mafia.
Something Holyflare said earlier about him was what I agreed with. If I can find it on a reread I'll quote it.
<3 you any other thoughts while you here?
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On July 07 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 09:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this. Pretty much my thoughts as well, I don't recognize Trfel at all. And I don't even know what Rsoul is doing, fucking deflection to the max. Am I the only one seeing HF making sense here? Jesus christ, the man just wanted an answer.
I see HF trying to make sense of the stuff rsoul is just being a douche to him atm which could mean 1 of them is scum based on past experience regarding them.
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I don't find the bits on tone compelling.
I don't see how the changes in his play in response to pressure are scummy.
I don't think his townread on Damdred is weird.
What else do you have?
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On July 07 2015 09:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't find the bits on tone compelling.
I don't see how the changes in his play in response to pressure are scummy.
I don't think his townread on Damdred is weird.
What else do you have?
Something he doesn't want to share obviously lol.
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On July 07 2015 09:49 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 07 2015 09:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this. Pretty much my thoughts as well, I don't recognize Trfel at all. And I don't even know what Rsoul is doing, fucking deflection to the max. Am I the only one seeing HF making sense here? Jesus christ, the man just wanted an answer. I see HF trying to make sense of the stuff rsoul is just being a douche to him atm which could mean 1 of them is scum based on past experience regarding them.
Who is scummier, though?
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@Trfel
Is something wrong with you? Did something traumatic happen in your life?
You played like a fucking god in our newbie game.
What changed?
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All these bits about Trfel playing super well make me jealous.
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On July 07 2015 09:53 ruXxar wrote:
@Trfel
Is something wrong with you? Did something traumatic happen in your life?
You played like a fucking god in our newbie game.
What changed? My play in this game is different from my play last game.
I was scum last game.
It's your responsibility to arrive at a conclusion.
What do you think about LightningStrike now?
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On July 07 2015 09:53 ruXxar wrote:
@Trfel
Is something wrong with you? Did something traumatic happen in your life?
You played like a fucking god in our newbie game.
What changed?
...
you played with him when he's scum
and you're now saying that him playing differently makes him...scum?
(for the retards who can't read, this means i think that ruxxar is MAKING SHIT UP)
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On July 07 2015 09:49 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 07 2015 09:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this. Pretty much my thoughts as well, I don't recognize Trfel at all. And I don't even know what Rsoul is doing, fucking deflection to the max. Am I the only one seeing HF making sense here? Jesus christ, the man just wanted an answer. I see HF trying to make sense of the stuff rsoul is just being a douche to him atm which could mean 1 of them is scum based on past experience regarding them.
i don't see him trying to figure out shit. i see him tunneling and sniping. maybe you can show me how i'm wrong cause i really don't think i am ><
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On July 07 2015 09:58 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 09:49 LightningStrike wrote:On July 07 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 07 2015 09:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this. Pretty much my thoughts as well, I don't recognize Trfel at all. And I don't even know what Rsoul is doing, fucking deflection to the max. Am I the only one seeing HF making sense here? Jesus christ, the man just wanted an answer. I see HF trying to make sense of the stuff rsoul is just being a douche to him atm which could mean 1 of them is scum based on past experience regarding them. i don't see him trying to figure out shit. i see him tunneling and sniping. maybe you can show me how i'm wrong cause i really don't think i am ><
He trying to get a answer to his question about Tfrel regarding me because it is bit of a odd read switch from him this game.
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On July 07 2015 09:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 09:49 LightningStrike wrote:On July 07 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 07 2015 09:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this. Pretty much my thoughts as well, I don't recognize Trfel at all. And I don't even know what Rsoul is doing, fucking deflection to the max. Am I the only one seeing HF making sense here? Jesus christ, the man just wanted an answer. I see HF trying to make sense of the stuff rsoul is just being a douche to him atm which could mean 1 of them is scum based on past experience regarding them. Who is scummier, though?
Well maybe rsoul but yet HF is known as a good scum player so idk exactly. Who you think is scummier and why?
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On July 07 2015 10:00 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 09:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 07 2015 09:49 LightningStrike wrote:On July 07 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 07 2015 09:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this. Pretty much my thoughts as well, I don't recognize Trfel at all. And I don't even know what Rsoul is doing, fucking deflection to the max. Am I the only one seeing HF making sense here? Jesus christ, the man just wanted an answer. I see HF trying to make sense of the stuff rsoul is just being a douche to him atm which could mean 1 of them is scum based on past experience regarding them. Who is scummier, though? Well maybe rsoul but yet HF is known as a good scum player so idk exactly. Who you think is scummier and why? I think that the fact that rsoultin looks somewhat scummy is actually a good reason for her being town.
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On July 07 2015 09:59 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 09:58 rsoultin wrote:On July 07 2015 09:49 LightningStrike wrote:On July 07 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 07 2015 09:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this. Pretty much my thoughts as well, I don't recognize Trfel at all. And I don't even know what Rsoul is doing, fucking deflection to the max. Am I the only one seeing HF making sense here? Jesus christ, the man just wanted an answer. I see HF trying to make sense of the stuff rsoul is just being a douche to him atm which could mean 1 of them is scum based on past experience regarding them. i don't see him trying to figure out shit. i see him tunneling and sniping. maybe you can show me how i'm wrong cause i really don't think i am >< He trying to get a answer to his question about Tfrel regarding me because it is bit of a odd read switch from him this game.
no
unless you're looking at a different post, i don't see how you can think this
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On July 07 2015 10:00 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2015 09:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On July 07 2015 09:49 LightningStrike wrote:On July 07 2015 09:47 ruXxar wrote:On July 07 2015 09:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this. Pretty much my thoughts as well, I don't recognize Trfel at all. And I don't even know what Rsoul is doing, fucking deflection to the max. Am I the only one seeing HF making sense here? Jesus christ, the man just wanted an answer. I see HF trying to make sense of the stuff rsoul is just being a douche to him atm which could mean 1 of them is scum based on past experience regarding them. Who is scummier, though? Well maybe rsoul but yet HF is known as a good scum player so idk exactly. Who you think is scummier and why?
I don't think either of them are scummy, and either way this is besides the point.
Do me a solid and find the scum between them or talk about something else. I'm not a fan of fencesitters.
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hey rsoul, gimme a read on HtS and harkon. thanx.
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Alright, I'm here for a couple hours.
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