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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 07 2015 00:18 GMT
#1561
On July 07 2015 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 09:12 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
for someone that blindly defends or explains palmars play, someone who plays very differently a lot his stance on lightningstrike is totally different from responses that lightningstrike always gives


not sure how the two clauses in this sentence are even related?

you said nothing changed

something changed

you weren't reading

end of story

if you MEAN something else, SAY something else, instead of just shifting your scumread however it suits you


no

I said what I mean. NOTHING about LS has changed in between his not scum reading him and wanting to lynch him. The only thing that's happened is Lightningstrike answering a question in a Lightningstrike way. Nothing has changed. Trfel's read has changed. He refused to explain it. You say he explained it.


you do get that i am trying very hard not to shitfight with you, right? so now you're interpreting that ls' answers SHOULD have not resulted in a read change. fine. interpret it that way

i don't even disagree with you, but i don't know what truffle thinks he has, and rather than throwing shit at him i'm just gonna wait cause he said he was WORKING ON IT which means if he doesn't deliver then you can get your panties in a bunch

i am
going
to
ignore
you
now
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 00:19 GMT
#1562
On July 07 2015 09:17 Holyflare wrote:
Now you're just going to say "lightningstrike's answers clearly changed his read" which you know, is totally unexplained and scummy since nothing LS has said is scummy which leads us full circle back to:

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 09:03 Holyflare wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:36 Trfel wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote:
I don't disagree with lynching LS.

However

On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then?


Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims?

I don't have a read on him.


Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his?
I wasn't asking to find out about ritoky, I don't really care about ritoky.

I was asking to learn more about LightningStrike.


hts saw the questioning

why are you so blind, hf?


QUESTIONING

QUESTIONING

what in his answers lead to him reversing his earlier stance

why is he asking lightningstrike questions when he had the stance of not wanting to lynch him


none of those are answers


when someone says they don't want to lynch someone and then afk's for a long time and asks them a random question about a claimed blue that warrants a generic response and then he changes their read it's pretty weird and needs explaining because:

a) why would he ask ls specifically that question when ls was off the table at that point for him, why not anyone else?
b) the generic response is so classic ls that it shouldn't change the original response


and if his response is "ls didn't talk about ritoky claiming blue" then he didn't even need to ask the question in the first place and ls' answers should solidify that ls didn't need to respond because he though it was obvious
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 07 2015 00:19 GMT
#1563
On July 07 2015 09:17 Holyflare wrote:
Now you're just going to say "lightningstrike's answers clearly changed his read" which you know, is totally unexplained and scummy since nothing LS has said is scummy which leads us full circle back to:

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 09:03 Holyflare wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:43 Trfel wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:37 Damdred wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:36 Trfel wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:32 Damdred wrote:
I don't disagree with lynching LS.

However

On July 07 2015 08:31 Half the Sky wrote:
On July 07 2015 08:27 Trfel wrote:
LightningStrike, hypothetically, what if someone counterclaimed ritoky? What would you think then?


Do you have an opinion on ritoky independent of any claims?

I don't have a read on him.


Hes probably been the most talked about person for the last.... 5-10 pages maybe? claim and all, you have no opinions but quizzed ls about his?
I wasn't asking to find out about ritoky, I don't really care about ritoky.

I was asking to learn more about LightningStrike.


hts saw the questioning

why are you so blind, hf?


QUESTIONING

QUESTIONING

what in his answers lead to him reversing his earlier stance

why is he asking lightningstrike questions when he had the stance of not wanting to lynch him


none of those are answers


when someone says they don't want to lynch someone and then afk's for a long time and asks them a random question about a claimed blue that warrants a generic response and then he changes their read it's pretty weird and needs explaining because:

a) why would he ask ls specifically that question when ls was off the table at that point for him, why not anyone else?
b) the generic response is so classic ls that it shouldn't change the original response


i think i know but won't answer for him

and yes, exactly what hts said, that's my problem with you practically this entire game ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Harkon
Profile Joined June 2015
569 Posts
July 07 2015 00:20 GMT
#1564
On July 07 2015 09:16 marvellosity wrote:
may have just attacked a jar of nutella with a spoon.

you guys are very angry

Mental image of raging marvellosity literally attacking a jar with a spoon.
10/10
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 00:20 GMT
#1565
On July 07 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:12 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
for someone that blindly defends or explains palmars play, someone who plays very differently a lot his stance on lightningstrike is totally different from responses that lightningstrike always gives


not sure how the two clauses in this sentence are even related?

you said nothing changed

something changed

you weren't reading

end of story

if you MEAN something else, SAY something else, instead of just shifting your scumread however it suits you


no

I said what I mean. NOTHING about LS has changed in between his not scum reading him and wanting to lynch him. The only thing that's happened is Lightningstrike answering a question in a Lightningstrike way. Nothing has changed. Trfel's read has changed. He refused to explain it. You say he explained it.


you do get that i am trying very hard not to shitfight with you, right? so now you're interpreting that ls' answers SHOULD have not resulted in a read change. fine. interpret it that way

i don't even disagree with you, but i don't know what truffle thinks he has, and rather than throwing shit at him i'm just gonna wait cause he said he was WORKING ON IT which means if he doesn't deliver then you can get your panties in a bunch

i am
going
to
ignore
you
now


great you admit you're just entering into the discussion for no reason because you have no idea so stop
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 07 2015 00:21 GMT
#1566
On July 07 2015 09:20 Harkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 09:16 marvellosity wrote:
may have just attacked a jar of nutella with a spoon.

you guys are very angry

Mental image of raging marvellosity literally attacking a jar with a spoon.
10/10

You're welcome :p

I'm docile as fuck though haha
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2015 00:21 GMT
#1567
Pretty sure Harkon is Artanis. Has that feel.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
July 07 2015 00:22 GMT
#1568
On July 07 2015 09:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 09:20 Harkon wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:16 marvellosity wrote:
may have just attacked a jar of nutella with a spoon.

you guys are very angry

Mental image of raging marvellosity literally attacking a jar with a spoon.
10/10

You're welcome :p

I'm docile as fuck though haha

Well I appreciate your strong support on the Oatsmaster lynch. Best decision of your life.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
July 07 2015 00:22 GMT
#1569
Can someone tell me why OWS is town?

And why his drive-by posting is being ignored, but mine wasn't.

Thanx.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 00:22 GMT
#1570
this game should be called pre-school mafia because the minute you try and question anything 10 other people jump in the way to remove it
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 00:23 GMT
#1571
On July 07 2015 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
I said what I mean. NOTHING about LS has changed in between his not scum reading him and wanting to lynch him. The only thing that's happened is Lightningstrike answering a question in a Lightningstrike way. Nothing has changed. Trfel's read has changed. He refused to explain it. You say he explained it.


You've played with Trfel enough I think you should also realise why a town Trfel (if he is town) might not want to answer the question, at least right away. Also he qualified why:

On July 07 2015 08:55 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 08:51 Half the Sky wrote:
Going to check the timestamps to see where it came from for myself, although Trfel really needs to explain himself at this point, what changed his read?
Sorry, it's not something I'm going to explain.

And there is much more to my LightningStrike scumread than his latest few posts.


Personally I hope we can see more of these thought processes from him resolve sooner rather than later. But I also checked LS's filter relative to the timestamps of the two read posts you cited and I can objectively find 3 posts in LS's filter that I could see solidify an LS scumread.

I am willing to give Trfel more time after crosschecking LS's filter.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 07 2015 00:25 GMT
#1572
How is this thread 79 pages already?
Retired.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 00:26 GMT
#1573
I've played like 2 games with trfel and both times i've been mafia. He never played this poorly ever. I even complimented him when I was mafia in a newbie game because he thought he played badly and he was playing well. This is below trash tier and I have much more respect for him than this.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 07 2015 00:27 GMT
#1574
On July 07 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:12 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
for someone that blindly defends or explains palmars play, someone who plays very differently a lot his stance on lightningstrike is totally different from responses that lightningstrike always gives


not sure how the two clauses in this sentence are even related?

you said nothing changed

something changed

you weren't reading

end of story

if you MEAN something else, SAY something else, instead of just shifting your scumread however it suits you


no

I said what I mean. NOTHING about LS has changed in between his not scum reading him and wanting to lynch him. The only thing that's happened is Lightningstrike answering a question in a Lightningstrike way. Nothing has changed. Trfel's read has changed. He refused to explain it. You say he explained it.


you do get that i am trying very hard not to shitfight with you, right? so now you're interpreting that ls' answers SHOULD have not resulted in a read change. fine. interpret it that way

i don't even disagree with you, but i don't know what truffle thinks he has, and rather than throwing shit at him i'm just gonna wait cause he said he was WORKING ON IT which means if he doesn't deliver then you can get your panties in a bunch

i am
going
to
ignore
you
now


great you admit you're just entering into the discussion for no reason because you have no idea so stop


...god i hope you're scum again ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 00:28 GMT
#1575
ok maybe 4 and 2 of them were town games, but he was never awful in them either
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 00:28 GMT
#1576
On July 07 2015 09:22 ritoky wrote:
Can someone tell me why OWS is town?

And why his drive-by posting is being ignored, but mine wasn't.

Thanx.


Fuck me, it's almost 1:30am and I have to go to bed.

I am not townreading OWS. Just looking at his filter, I assume the sheep marv comment is coming from sheeping marv on voting you (ritoky) but he's not said anything about you nor why voting you is a better bet than keeping his vote on HF.

I'd like to see OWS's thoughts on you and Holyflare, and others if he has them.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 00:28 GMT
#1577
On July 07 2015 09:27 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:12 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
for someone that blindly defends or explains palmars play, someone who plays very differently a lot his stance on lightningstrike is totally different from responses that lightningstrike always gives


not sure how the two clauses in this sentence are even related?

you said nothing changed

something changed

you weren't reading

end of story

if you MEAN something else, SAY something else, instead of just shifting your scumread however it suits you


no

I said what I mean. NOTHING about LS has changed in between his not scum reading him and wanting to lynch him. The only thing that's happened is Lightningstrike answering a question in a Lightningstrike way. Nothing has changed. Trfel's read has changed. He refused to explain it. You say he explained it.


you do get that i am trying very hard not to shitfight with you, right? so now you're interpreting that ls' answers SHOULD have not resulted in a read change. fine. interpret it that way

i don't even disagree with you, but i don't know what truffle thinks he has, and rather than throwing shit at him i'm just gonna wait cause he said he was WORKING ON IT which means if he doesn't deliver then you can get your panties in a bunch

i am
going
to
ignore
you
now


great you admit you're just entering into the discussion for no reason because you have no idea so stop


...god i hope you're scum again ><


go away seriously, if you have nothing to add and even acknowledge you have no idea what he's thinking then just seriously don't even post it achieves nothing but aggravation and you know what it leads to

so stop
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 07 2015 00:30 GMT
#1578
On July 07 2015 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
How is this thread 79 pages already?


There you are! If you can answer my questions when you have the chance that would be grand.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 07 2015 00:30 GMT
#1579
On July 07 2015 09:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 09:27 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:20 Holyflare wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:18 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:12 rsoultin wrote:
On July 07 2015 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
for someone that blindly defends or explains palmars play, someone who plays very differently a lot his stance on lightningstrike is totally different from responses that lightningstrike always gives


not sure how the two clauses in this sentence are even related?

you said nothing changed

something changed

you weren't reading

end of story

if you MEAN something else, SAY something else, instead of just shifting your scumread however it suits you


no

I said what I mean. NOTHING about LS has changed in between his not scum reading him and wanting to lynch him. The only thing that's happened is Lightningstrike answering a question in a Lightningstrike way. Nothing has changed. Trfel's read has changed. He refused to explain it. You say he explained it.


you do get that i am trying very hard not to shitfight with you, right? so now you're interpreting that ls' answers SHOULD have not resulted in a read change. fine. interpret it that way

i don't even disagree with you, but i don't know what truffle thinks he has, and rather than throwing shit at him i'm just gonna wait cause he said he was WORKING ON IT which means if he doesn't deliver then you can get your panties in a bunch

i am
going
to
ignore
you
now


great you admit you're just entering into the discussion for no reason because you have no idea so stop


...god i hope you're scum again ><


go away seriously, if you have nothing to add and even acknowledge you have no idea what he's thinking then just seriously don't even post it achieves nothing but aggravation and you know what it leads to

so stop


it has nothing to do with truffle and everything to do with YOU twisting everything around

why the fuck would i KNOW what truffle is thinking? i suspect i do but why would i even say what it is? like seriously you are not this bad >< you cannot be this bad
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 07 2015 00:31 GMT
#1580
holy fucking shit

i want to know why trfel changed his read in between with such basic ls answers

you have turned it into 2 pages of useless shit and you don't even know the answer

fuck off
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