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XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 23 2015 01:14 GMT
#8801
On July 23 2015 10:11 rsoultin wrote:
i just got mislynched last week, va

and i've been mislynched once here...and would have been lynched in my first scum game if i hadn't conceded

maybe there is a subconscious thing where people don't lynch people they like as frequently as others, and i will admit i know a lot of the players in these games more than passingly and i've made those mistakes myself, where i'm more likely to townread people i have some sort of attachment to (see: ls) however...if you're implying that the only reason i don't get lynched (as either alignment) is i'm female? that's kind of blah, va


no its exactly the first part that you just typed. And being female helps with that significantly on a male dominated site. you could see -redacted- wanted to lynch you but couldnt do it cause you're friends.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 23 2015 01:22 GMT
#8802
eh, maybe?

i'd like to think that's not solely gender-based xP my friendships with people lol
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
July 23 2015 01:33 GMT
#8803
On July 23 2015 10:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
well im extremely good at the only video games ive ever bothered to play (starcraft, LoL) so there goes that study I guess.

I'm not even harassing her, just simply the only person that won't bother to be politically correct and tell it how it is.


FWIW even if your theory of people being unwilling to lynch women were true, the problem would almost certainly lie with the men who make up the majority of mafia players and make that decision, not with the women who play. Again, not saying anything about the reasonableness of your theory, just pointing out that if your theory is true it's a statement about the behavior of men.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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XEliteBlueHunter69X
Profile Joined June 2015
155 Posts
July 23 2015 01:39 GMT
#8804
On July 23 2015 10:33 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2015 10:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
well im extremely good at the only video games ive ever bothered to play (starcraft, LoL) so there goes that study I guess.

I'm not even harassing her, just simply the only person that won't bother to be politically correct and tell it how it is.


FWIW even if your theory of people being unwilling to lynch women were true, the problem would almost certainly lie with the men who make up the majority of mafia players and make that decision, not with the women who play. Again, not saying anything about the reasonableness of your theory, just pointing out that if your theory is true it's a statement about the behavior of men.


astute observation, but this has gone long enough sorry to derail the thread. I hope she did not take it as an attack at her.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 23 2015 01:42 GMT
#8805
On July 23 2015 10:39 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2015 10:33 Blazinghand wrote:
On July 23 2015 10:08 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
well im extremely good at the only video games ive ever bothered to play (starcraft, LoL) so there goes that study I guess.

I'm not even harassing her, just simply the only person that won't bother to be politically correct and tell it how it is.


FWIW even if your theory of people being unwilling to lynch women were true, the problem would almost certainly lie with the men who make up the majority of mafia players and make that decision, not with the women who play. Again, not saying anything about the reasonableness of your theory, just pointing out that if your theory is true it's a statement about the behavior of men.


astute observation, but this has gone long enough sorry to derail the thread. I hope she did not take it as an attack at her.


mm? no

it kinda implies i just suck at life and only don't get lynched cause i'm female xP but i didn't actually think that's what you meant. i mean, it kinda falls in line with the women in combat arguments?

legitimately women aren't as physically strong and that's a big part of why the argument still exists

but an arguably bigger problem is how the men around the women react in combat situations...that natural protective instinct that causes them to do stupid things they otherwise wouldn't

it's an intriguing concept...not sure how much it applies here or if you'd even be able to quantify it though lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 01:59:43
July 23 2015 01:54 GMT
#8806
It definitely applies a lot. It's not an all woman thing since ya know, ninjabunnies gets lynched 10/10 times but it's one of those when you're friendly with people woman moments and the horny teenage man see's people as weak vulnerable females that could never be lying since they're too nice outside the game! I mean it's a personality thing at the end of the day but i think it's applied to women far more than men to men.

I can see that a lot in people's play.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 02:07:50
July 23 2015 01:57 GMT
#8807
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2015 01:58 GMT
#8808
?
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 01:59:55
July 23 2015 01:59 GMT
#8809
On July 23 2015 10:54 Holyflare wrote:
It definitely applies a lot. It's not an all woman thing since ya know, ninjabunnies gets lynched 10/10 times but it's one of those when you're friendly with people woman moments and the horny teenage man see's people as weak vulnerable females that could never be lying since they're too nice outside the game!

I can see that a lot in people's play.


:S

Maybe I'm misinterpreting this?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
July 23 2015 02:00 GMT
#8810
A lot of stupid in this thread
Zerg for Life
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2015 02:04 GMT
#8811
It's a simple fact of life, nothing stupid about it. Sure there are many forward thinking men that it doesn't apply to just as there are women that it doesn't apply to. That doesn't eliminate the fact that I've seen people's play affected by it.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 23 2015 02:06 GMT
#8812
On July 23 2015 11:04 Holyflare wrote:
It's a simple fact of life, nothing stupid about it. Sure there are many forward thinking men that it doesn't apply to just as there are women that it doesn't apply to. That doesn't eliminate the fact that I've seen people's play affected by it.


I'm not saying there is no relation between someone's gender and how you are treated by certain people. But it's certainly diminished seeing as we're playing a game played entirely in text?

It's definitely not a reason to "not play with women again because they're treated differently" although I'm sure you agree on that account.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2015 02:10 GMT
#8813
No it's not really diminished. I'm not saying she didn't get lynched because she's a woman or whatever like va said vut there are a lot of good points that get swept under the rug due to relations outside the game etc etc.

And no i just hate all of you equally
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 23 2015 02:10 GMT
#8814
Im assuming im one of the people that EBH is trying to apply this too? Im not sure though but im fairly certain rsoultin being a girl doesn't affect my reasoning at all it was for other shit reasons like her actually being around at the lynch and me being indecisive as fuck which you could also se me do with the HF lynch. I still didn't lynch her for shit reasons but her gender didn't play a part in it.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
July 23 2015 02:11 GMT
#8815
You're all stupid.
I'm the greatest.
Retired.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 23 2015 02:11 GMT
#8816
On July 23 2015 11:10 Holyflare wrote:
No it's not really diminished. I'm not saying she didn't get lynched because she's a woman or whatever like va said vut there are a lot of good points that get swept under the rug due to relations outside the game etc etc.

And no i just hate all of you equally

This is what's important to get out of the argument imo
And we should be careful not to let this devolve if the conversation continues because it has the potential to.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
July 23 2015 02:11 GMT
#8817
WoS scum MVP btw
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-23 02:14:27
July 23 2015 02:13 GMT
#8818
On July 23 2015 11:11 Blazinghand wrote:
WoS scum MVP btw

I'll say this much as I said it to multiple people during the game.
I had every intention at the start of this game to 'actively lurk,' but I didn't intend it to be for the reasons I did, nor to the extent that I did.

And I would not have been able to do so or survive were it not for my teammates so I'm not willing to take credit/MVP status.
I will take credit for organizing NKs though 'cause it's probably the best part of my scumgame :D
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
July 23 2015 02:14 GMT
#8819
-_-

i kinda fail to see how this conversation could be constructive from here? disregarding the fact that by saying these things you guys are basically saying it doesn't matter how i play because i'm a girl

the fact of the matter is this is a social game. you don't win just by being right. you also have to work within the player base and try to get people to do what you want them to do...it's part of the game. maybe my being nice and friendly outside the game helps me in that respect, but does that mean i'm unlynchable? (demonstrably not) does that mean i can get people to do whatever i want? (no)

i'm not sure how this is different than say, palmar/marv or something when they've got townreads on each other no one else understands? or the game i was mislynched in where dp pandered to geript's ego and i couldn't get him lynched no matter how hard i tried lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
July 23 2015 02:15 GMT
#8820
Didn't say it's why you win games at all? Just an interesting insight into the mechanics of the game.

VA on the other hand is different :p
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