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On July 11 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:


lol are you flirting with me?

zzzz @ ruxx coming into to blabber about obvious mechanics then peacing out

On July 11 2015 11:25 ruXxar wrote:


When I give an opinion on people I like to back into their filter to make sure that what I remember actually is factually correct with their actions.

On July 11 2015 11:26 Harkon wrote:

wut?

On July 11 2015 11:21 ruXxar wrote:


I don't particularly like milo's play up until this point.

The things I didn't like primarily was his push on LS, and his interaction with damdred was strange.
I'll have to re-evaluate that from a standpoint of him actually being a real cop, seemed strange how certain he was that damdred was the real JK though.

In general I don't like the tone of his posts. I made a tone-read earlier:

On July 11 2015 11:30 rsoultin wrote:


lol apparently i'm kinkier than you are. shame

On July 11 2015 11:29 marvellosity wrote:
hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

On July 11 2015 11:30 rsoultin wrote:


lol apparently i'm kinkier than you are. shame

On July 11 2015 11:31 rsoultin wrote:


hiiiiiii ^^ i swam. it was blissful! \o/

do you get why hf likes scott?

On July 11 2015 11:30 Holyflare wrote:
Rsoultin you should be catching up with the thread. Nothing more. Not sure you've particulalry posted anything in your last flurry of posts at all.

Either way to answer your question my semi town read is scott is based on his list post. It ticked all the right boxes at the time and i don't really care that it's wishy washy I would be incredibly impressed if he had that list as mafia. Only gripe I had was the ritoky read he gave in it though. Just because i read some people on solving the game doesn't mean it applies to everyone either.

On July 11 2015 11:32 marvellosity wrote:

well i've not read what he said and i can't remember what he said before

i do remember looking at his filter like 10 times at the end of day 1 trying to be sure enough to start a wagon on him but i never was, but i can't remember right now why

On July 09 2015 14:04 Clarity_nl wrote:
Ok so town!milo has an interesting point of view here. He's the only person that knows he is cop while everyone else is in doubt.

Ritoky claimed 1-shot cop halfway through day 1 when pressure started to build on him, milo claimed 2-shot cop near the end of day 1 when it looked like he was the main wagon.

Day 2 starts and ritoky immediately claims he was roleblocked. town!milo was roleblocked. Obviously town would never roleblock him (having a JK defending him is not a thought anyone would have) so he should be feeling like ritoky is very likely lying at this point.

However, somehow his first instinct when hearing about ritoky being roleblocked as well as him, is to:



Test Clarity and Holyflare?



So right away I have trouble putting this in town!milo's actions. He should be out to lynch ritoky and push him, not do some fake check/just kidding I was roleblocked and then leave to go look at responses later. Keep in mind that town!milo believes he was roleblocked by scum, so faking a redcheck on me would not make HF or myself slip up as scum, so the whole thing doesn't make much sense.

I have never in this entire game truly believed ritoky scum. Hey look TMI. Or being able to read people. Probably the former though, right? :> So I wanted to see how mafia would react to a red check they obviously knew was fake.

He comes back and Damdred has claimed JK on ritoky at this point:



Okay so this all makes sense from town!milo's perspective: "I now know that ritoky was roleblocked by damdred. I know that I was roleblocked by mafia. Making the reasonable assumption that scum do not have two roleblockers, this means that Damdred is in fact the town JK." However he then says Ritoky is now confirmed scum.

This would make night actions as follows:
1 scum kp on Palmar
1 scum kp on marv
damdred JK > ritoky
scum RB > milo

However, milo overlooks that town!milo would consider that scum roleblocked him, damdred JK > ritoky and scum kp > ritoky. This is what makes sense if both him and ritoky are cops, otherwise scum would just let ritoky get a check off. This should be a consideration for town!milo and only for him, because he is confirmed cop. He claimed he believed ritoky but he can't be cop, yet didn't see the obvious night actions that would have ritoky be cop.

I mentioned this multiple times as a possibility, before Harkon claimed. Afterwards... I think you know that this renders this impossible. WAIT. WTF. I MENTIONED IN THE NEXT QUOTE THAT I THOUGHT IT WAS POSSIBLE SCUM KP > RITOKY. Worst Case NA


How does town!milo want to believe that ritoky is town, but he does not see that scum could have roleblocked him and shot ritoky??

Er... I did a typo in the above quote. Obviously there wouldn't be a KP on a mafia ritoky. It was meant to be isn't.

It's because scum!milo is pretending to be town!milo.
Meaningless sentence is meaningless



In whatever world town!milo lives, either there are two scum roleblockers (and one of them is Damdred) or Damdred is JK.
This should mean to him that if Damdred is JK he is less likely to get lynched because a roleblock on him makes much more sense, however he says the opposite.



Milo is correct here. However he did not say "you have to be town because of the information I have", he says "my fate is tied to you". His phrasing throughout day 2 has been like this.

- Ritoky is like confirmed mafia in my world.
- Unless another town RBer wants to out, or mafia has two RBer, that's what I have to believe, odd as it is.
- So.. I have to defend Damdred here, despite the fact that he is the worst JK ever if he is one. People make mistakes..

Milo is talking as if he is considering someone else's point of view: scum!milo is trying to think like town!milo.


Lol. Pls. I'm narrating my thoughts.
tl;dr: Milo is scum. He did not call out ritoky immediately when he said he was roleblocked, despite not believing in two scum roleblockers. He is having trouble figuring out how town!milo would view the game and he makes statements that show he does not really believe what he's saying but he's "forced to" go along this path.

On July 11 2015 11:39 Holyflare wrote:
Yes it wqs necessary because all the questions you're asking seem super redundant and forced and you're not even sure of events that took place so it's not particularly helpful at all. Why am I having that problem with several people? The majority of people in my scum list so far are people that are incredibly likely to flip mafia. In fact the only reasom damdred was ever tentatively removed was because i trusted in one of your tells on him being demotivated when scum read otherwise i would have him solidly on there. If anything i am super on point so far.

Scott's post was ego stroking how? His list appeared at a time where i didn't exactly make my thoughts known and it's pretty hard to conjure up a list like that if you're mafia since it was far too accurate. Even all the little quips about people.