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On July 07 2015 03:40 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 17:28 Trfel wrote:Pointless Conversation+ Show Spoiler +On July 06 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:20 Trfel wrote:Hi. I need to go take a sauna now. Raynpelikoneet would approve, I assume  I'll probably be mostly active in the evenings, lately I've been busier during the day. So if you scumread me for lack of activity or lack of active discussion, you'll be wrong. Anyway, this should be a fun (if spammy) game. And an easy win. Scum, you don't have a chance. but, but, but... this was our favorite! ;o; judas Yes, but you see the song I linked has a (terrible) connection to the point I am attempting to convey. "Sports Song" is my favorite from Weird Al's recent songs, anyway.
On July 06 2015 07:31 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 07:29 Vivax wrote:On July 06 2015 07:28 geript wrote:On July 06 2015 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:On July 06 2015 07:24 Holyflare wrote:
##vote trfel
Super over explained afk entry excuse post You already got a vote on someone like he's scum it not going to be just his entrance it would be for other things as the game goes on... Scum #2 I've caught. Must be a lot of mafia in this game when you catch them while less than half the game didn't even post. There's five, did you read the OP or just being Vivax? Do you normally miss jokes?
On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote:On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup! Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic? it's cool i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy Do not! Only that one time.... If you must know, I wrote my entrance post for this game after the Day post....
On July 06 2015 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:15 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:13 scott31337 wrote:On July 06 2015 08:09 ruXxar wrote:
I say we vote Trfel, scummy as fuck yup! Although I didn't really care for his AFK post, he has proven he can be a big poster as mafia (like his last game) I'm not on the trfel train yet - or was this sarcastic? it's cool i'm the trfel whisperer xP just sheep me whenever he gets his ass back to the thread and actually starts posting lol >< he always pre-writes his entrances before his role pm like a pussy I dare you to say you can still read trfel after we destroyed town that other game. Thanks for the confidence WaveofShadow, but she most definitely can read me...
On July 06 2015 08:24 Clarity_nl wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 08:23 rsoultin wrote:On July 06 2015 08:21 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:19 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:17 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:On July 06 2015 08:15 Clarity_nl wrote:On July 06 2015 08:12 KelsierSC wrote:
Clarity do you have any other reads so far? I think geript probably wouldn't just vote and then ignore me as scum, so there's that. trfl's first post to me is totally null, either alignment could start by saying they will only be active at certain times Don't really have anyone I want to lynch yet do you have anymore town? Don't really see the point in giving a ton of townreads, but no, no strong reads. ok, it just confuses me because you gave a townread on hf after 1 post, then you haven't established reads on other people. I suppose if you haven't played with hf then maybe you can meta out a reason but it feels inconsistent. what is the answer to your hf and I (grammar) can't be scum? I said we can't both be scum Seems like a really weird thing for two scum to do early on, no? I just realized it after I made my first post and figured it's a good way to start talking about something useful. -squints at- lol you do realize how little sense this actually makes, right? You're replying a lot to me rsoultin but saying very little. I think it makes sense. If HF and me are both scum, I feel we would basically never have that interaction a few minutes into day 1. Do you disagree? I don't even....
On July 06 2015 08:33 rsoultin wrote:
chem work to do... Well now I'm feeling pretty stupid...
On July 06 2015 11:20 milo109 wrote:
Hmmm. I feel like I should post more but I don't have much more. Leaning town on Holyflare, and I want to call WaveofShadow also town. But I can't. This is really stupid, but I think this post actually gets him a town lean...
On July 06 2015 12:30 LightningStrike wrote:On July 06 2015 12:29 milo109 wrote:
Alright you people are boring. I'll be back in the morning. When you wake up care to give me your thoughts? Has LightningStrike ever used phrasing like this before?
At the moment, I'm most suspicious of (in no order) scott31337, LightningStrike, and Holyflare. I'm suspicious of LightningStrike partially because of what Damdred said. While Damdred's point wasn't great, LightningStrike's response (looking up the games that were missing from his initial post) seems very telling. Furthermore, I don't think that LightningStrike has ever used the phrasing in the above quote as town. Usually, he says "please give me your reads" or "what are your reads, please" or something like that. In contrast, "care to give me your thoughts" is far more reserved. And the rest of LightningStrike's posting in this game is far more aggressive than I'm used to seeing from him. It feels like the strongest argument against LightningStrike is how his play has been affected by the pressure he's been under. As people bring up different things, he posts in different ways as a result. Side note, why are girls so confusing.... (and no, I'm not talking about anyone in this game) This looks really familiar - throw out some suspicions, and then work on your agenda. I don't like this post at all. Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 20:16 boxerfred wrote:On July 06 2015 07:20 Clarity_nl wrote:
Hype! And already information.
Holyflare claiming VT is interesting. Doesn't seem something scum would do or think of this quickly after PMs went out/daypost went up.
Not lynching him today. strange entry post, why would you believe a first-post-of-the-day-VT-claim? Did you read how he came to that conclusion? It made a lot of sense to me - mindmeldy... Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 20:54 boxerfred wrote:
You have been following the VT claim blindly, which is sheeping. I like HF for more then the VT claim - also his interaction with rsoul. Good case - could sheep... This was posted while marv/ksc/hard were on rsoul, and I'm pretty confident it was to throw off discussion. Show nested quote +On July 06 2015 23:36 boxerfred wrote:
Yep sorry, just contributing from mobile in the Bus, throwing out ideas.
Yeah and im no cop. I know it was a joke but was it to get distracted off of rsoul? It sure feels that way... I'm only at page 58 - here's my spreedsheet of love. 1) Marvellosity townie after the morning 2) Scott31337 town 3) WaveofShadow Voted HF weirdly 4) Clarity_nl mixed it with HF / slight town 5) ruXxar slight town 6) Vivax Meh/null of scum defends trfel 7) Bill Murray wanderer claim 8) ritoky slight town 9) geript slight town 10) boxerfred null meh posts fakeclaim cop to distract from rsoul. 11) Meapak_Ziphh 12) Trfel Crap start but can be a big poster too 13) LightningStrike Meh/Damdred brings up good conclusions on his meta / looking up cases 14) Palmar Called boxerfred town which I don’t like/believe in 15) ObiWanShinobi Bad vote on HF / scumlean 16) KelsierSC Trying to think the game / townlean 17) milo109 scumlean ,towns HF / Oats / Wave 18) Breshke Ehh 19) Oatsmaster Says Clarity /WoS mafia 20) Damdred Slight town going after LS 21) rsoultin not a great defense when pressured, scumlean 22) Half The Sky miller claim / decent listpost 23) Harkon Smurf - maybe JAT? Ehhh 24) Holyflare Mindmelt opening - town 25) XEliteBlueHunter69X I'll be back in a couple hours after I eat and finish the thread.
^ maybe we define quips differently, but half of this is just...obvious nonsense
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All his little descriptions?
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yes, what do you actually like in there? i see a lot of reads without explanations and narrations in that list
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On July 11 2015 12:00 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote: n July 11 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote:
lol >< wave's filter holy hell. he asked vig to shoot him; maybe they should Do you have a read on wave? complete null. he hasn't played. i'd say scum but i know he takes pride in his scum game so eh -_- maybe he fell down a hole somewhere. it's been days
So why do you want him to get vigged? You don't have stronger scumreads?
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Look you don't have to like it but that just makes you bad. I'm the god of change of hearts for great small things and town reads.
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Let's just call it tone and be done with it 
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On July 11 2015 12:07 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 12:00 rsoultin wrote:On July 11 2015 11:56 Oatsmaster wrote: n July 11 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote:
lol >< wave's filter holy hell. he asked vig to shoot him; maybe they should Do you have a read on wave? complete null. he hasn't played. i'd say scum but i know he takes pride in his scum game so eh -_- maybe he fell down a hole somewhere. it's been days So why do you want him to get vigged? You don't have stronger scumreads?
lol you're not serious, surely
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On July 11 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote:Let's just call it tone and be done with it
instead of mocking me, because i actually do explain my tonereads when asked, why is it so difficult for you to point out which descriptions you liked in his list? this isn't a hard question. it's like literally the only reason you're townreading him, is it not?
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On July 11 2015 11:52 milo109 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 11:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 11 2015 11:49 milo109 wrote:On July 11 2015 11:46 ruXxar wrote:On July 11 2015 11:29 rsoultin wrote:On July 11 2015 11:25 ruXxar wrote:On July 11 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
i stand corrected lol ><
you needed over 10 minutes to write that? When I give an opinion on people I like to back into their filter to make sure that what I remember actually is factually correct with their actions. yeah like that toneread doesn't even appear until well after the whole thread is talking about lynching him, so i'm just going to completely disregard it xP talk to me about the fake redcheck What do you want to know? I think it's a suboptimal play from a mafia trying to survive. Keep in mind that this was before geript outed. I think the mechanically correct play as mafia is to fake a greencheck/redcheck and then stick with it. Rescinding the check and saying that you got roleblocked is trying to sell the world of there being either 2 mafia RBs or 1 Mafia RB + 1 jailer. I think that is a low percentage play, so I'm not a fan of it. If in some very odd, very parallel universe, you did not automatically assume I was mafia, what would you read from the check? I'm not sure what you mean specifically. Can you clarify? Your response to the check was under the assumption that I was mafia. Under the assumption that I was null, what would your response be?
From a real cop perspective that actually got role-blocked, then you know you're pretty much not going to get any checks off until you die.
I think the play I would make is to just fake a red on the most scummy player on my list and stick with it.
You know you are 100% town, and everyone else is below 100%, so you have to trust in your own reads.
In that case I think you made the right play with faking the red-check, but screwed up when you rescinded.
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On July 09 2015 06:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2015 06:06 XEliteBlueHunter69X wrote:
Alright this mz/milo/ritoky thing has been beaten to death.
Anyone that wants to chime in feel free to give me your opinion on
kelsier/breshke/obi
Kelsier says some things that make sense but is wildly different from kelsier from last game, he has a lot of pointless one liners but I think he was kinda towny at the start of the game and has somewhat fallen off a bit but I still think he might be town. Breshke said some towny stuff imo although I don't really remember any of his posts anymore. The only thing that sticks out in my mind is his town read of rsoultin which seemed really well reasoned out. <-- probably need to re-evaluate but I don't really think off my head he looked bad at all obi seems a bit try hard which is potentially worrying but he hasn't really said anything egregious and it all seems pretty thought out and reasoned from what i remember.
Not much changed since n1 read of him and not bothered to reread him so no idea really
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On July 11 2015 12:09 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote:Let's just call it tone and be done with it instead of mocking me, because i actually do explain my tonereads when asked, why is it so difficult for you to point out which descriptions you liked in his list? this isn't a hard question. it's like literally the only reason you're townreading him, is it not?
Holy fucking shit this is the most pointless exercise in existence. I liked the fact that he pointed out all the little things like milo town reading 3 ppl etc stc. I liked his little intuitive rsoul deflecting shit.
I don't remember off the top of my head what exactly gave me warm fuzzy feelings because it was 10,000 pages ago. It aligned with my thoughts in absolutely every way but ritoky. That's absolutely all i remember about it.
Go read the game because this is downright pointless since you don't trust me and you don't like my read on scott either.
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On July 07 2015 07:56 geript wrote:
I'd be really surprised if I were wrong about Breshke. He was interacting with the thread instead of around the thread.
On January 26 2015 17:02 geript wrote:
I've spent the last few hours looking at Breshke's meta. I really don't see him being mafia. Like there are some similarities to both his town and mafia play, but it looks far more like his town game. How he interacts with the thread and reads seems to be the key to understanding his meta imo. Like his mafia games are practically commentary/summary of the thread and I'm not really seeing that here.
I don't think I want to lynch Breshke.
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On July 11 2015 11:47 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote + On July 11 2015 09:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Cool flip.
Shoot MZ.
Look into scott tomorrow. I'm still thinking he's a good lynch and I literally can't come up with a single reason not to smite him off the face of the earth. Did you ever read Scotts previous games? He seems pretty much the same, lurky and not that useful.
Doesn't make him town, though.
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On July 11 2015 12:10 ruXxar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 11:52 milo109 wrote:On July 11 2015 11:51 ruXxar wrote:On July 11 2015 11:49 milo109 wrote:On July 11 2015 11:46 ruXxar wrote:On July 11 2015 11:29 rsoultin wrote:On July 11 2015 11:25 ruXxar wrote:On July 11 2015 11:23 rsoultin wrote:
i stand corrected lol ><
you needed over 10 minutes to write that? When I give an opinion on people I like to back into their filter to make sure that what I remember actually is factually correct with their actions. yeah like that toneread doesn't even appear until well after the whole thread is talking about lynching him, so i'm just going to completely disregard it xP talk to me about the fake redcheck What do you want to know? I think it's a suboptimal play from a mafia trying to survive. Keep in mind that this was before geript outed. I think the mechanically correct play as mafia is to fake a greencheck/redcheck and then stick with it. Rescinding the check and saying that you got roleblocked is trying to sell the world of there being either 2 mafia RBs or 1 Mafia RB + 1 jailer. I think that is a low percentage play, so I'm not a fan of it. If in some very odd, very parallel universe, you did not automatically assume I was mafia, what would you read from the check? I'm not sure what you mean specifically. Can you clarify? Your response to the check was under the assumption that I was mafia. Under the assumption that I was null, what would your response be? From a real cop perspective that actually got role-blocked, then you know you're pretty much not going to get any checks off until you die. I think the play I would make is to just fake a red on the most scummy player on my list and stick with it. You know you are 100% town, and everyone else is below 100%, so you have to trust in your own reads. In that case I think you made the right play with faking the red-check, but screwed up when you rescinded.
Probably.
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That list by scott has the interesting point that he accuses me of defending Trfel but at the same time posts something about him that says absoluely nothing about his alignment. The "that was crap but he can be not crap" stuff.
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On July 11 2015 12:15 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2015 12:09 rsoultin wrote:On July 11 2015 12:08 Holyflare wrote:Let's just call it tone and be done with it instead of mocking me, because i actually do explain my tonereads when asked, why is it so difficult for you to point out which descriptions you liked in his list? this isn't a hard question. it's like literally the only reason you're townreading him, is it not? Holy fucking shit this is the most pointless exercise in existence. I liked the fact that he pointed out all the little things like milo town reading 3 ppl etc stc. I liked his little intuitive rsoul deflecting shit. I don't remember off the top of my head what exactly gave me warm fuzzy feelings because it was 10,000 pages ago. It aligned with my thoughts in absolutely every way but ritoky. That's absolutely all i remember about it. Go read the game because this is downright pointless since you don't trust me and you don't like my read on scott either.
it's not pointless for me but i'll stop talking to you since you want that and can't seem to just talk ^^
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And apparently not wanting to lynch somebody for reasons constitutes a defense in his book. Quite the stretch there for reasons I can't fathom.
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On July 11 2015 12:18 Vivax wrote:
That list by scott has the interesting point that he accuses me of defending Trfel but at the same time posts something about him that says absoluely nothing about his alignment. The "that was crap but he can be not crap" stuff.
lots of bad associations in it, in all honesty lol >< and a lot of other useless drivel. i don't get why people post lists and include people they have nothing to say about
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On July 11 2015 12:18 Vivax wrote:
That list by scott has the interesting point that he accuses me of defending Trfel but at the same time posts something about him that says absoluely nothing about his alignment. The "that was crap but he can be not crap" stuff.
I don't see how that's interesting since your defence was incredibly scummy. You said "oh he posted more than j remember i don't want to vote him" yet the scum read was because he posted a lot but said nothing. Hence your defence was scummy even if trfel was not to him.
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